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Post Post #17  (isolation #0)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:49 pm

In post 9, Anotora wrote:Hi everyone! Really excited to start playing forum mafia again!

VOTE: Obvious Alt for what she said in the Queue.

In post 448, Obvious Alt wrote:/in mini

Saying this here, before role PMs go out, so saying it later is NAI. This account is experimenting with a new strategy to test its validity. I will be leaning HEAVILY on initial gut reads, and will be unlikely to respond to alternate views coming from others.


Everyone here owes it to the town to participate fully in discussion and scumhunting, and a great deal of that happens with back-and-forth argument and working off of each other's ideas. Trying to fly solo, though it may not be scummy in this one particular case, is anti-town IMO. So let's put her through some extra scrutiny by votes.

First, hello to everybody and second I hope that Alt takes a serious approach to the game and is gonna participate to the fullest, else he might actually ruin the experience. But this is also not something you should use as a clear argument before everyone got to even say hello.

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Post Post #18  (isolation #1)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:50 pm

In post 16, Garmr wrote:
In post 11, -Grey- wrote:
In post 8, Garmr wrote:
In post 6, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: No Lynch

So you want to skip rvs or do you really want a no lynch and if so why?


Yes.

I'm going to assume both for the answer yes. Either way I haven't seen a scum player yet suggest a no lynch so you get a very early town lean.

That and also the fact that he wants us to get out of RVS which is not a Town move also.

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Post Post #19  (isolation #2)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:50 pm

Edit: Not a Scum move.

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Post Post #20  (isolation #3)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:51 pm

In post 15, Anotora wrote:
In post 14, -Grey- wrote:No Lynch is never an option on d1.


Yet you voted for it.

That was in RVS so it shouldn't be taken that seriously. I believe Grey is talking about the No lynch for the whole Day 1.

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Post Post #32  (isolation #4)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:01 pm

In post 24, Garmr wrote:I believe you firebringer about being a miller.

Firebringer I guarantee I'm town this game because I lost my backstabbing knife.

Why so keen on believing him, a?

Also, are you trying to buddy with everyone :P

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Post Post #35  (isolation #5)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:03 pm

In post 28, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 25, Srceenplay wrote:My gut says
VOTE: Obvious Alt

Am I doing it right?

Perfect!

Mafia confirmed :lol:

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Post Post #43  (isolation #6)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:07 pm

In post 39, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 33, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 28, BigYoshiFan wrote:Perfect!


o.o

I think that means I'm winning!!
:)

VOTE: Srceenplay
Somebody has a deal with the mod! xD

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Post Post #54  (isolation #7)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:12 pm

In post 48, Firebringer wrote:
In post 45, Anotora wrote:
In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

What if we are both miller? O_o


It's much, much likelier that one of you two is scum.

I am pretty sure rc is joking,
I am legit miller but I think he thinks I am fake claiming

Fake claiming is very possible with miller. It is a common tactic. Tho you do seem to be saying the truth. This probably means RC has a good chance of being scum tho.

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Post Post #57  (isolation #8)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:14 pm

In post 49, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 43, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 39, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 33, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 28, BigYoshiFan wrote:Perfect!


o.o

I think that means I'm winning!!
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VOTE: Srceenplay
Somebody has a deal with the mod! xD

That statement is untrue. That makes you a liar. Vote all liars.

VOTE: Pep

I sence that you are sweating. You have been discovered!

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Post Post #62  (isolation #9)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:15 pm

In post 56, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 54, Pepchoninga wrote:It is a common tactic


ahh?!

what meta is this based on?

Well, for starters its the meta on the mafiascum wiki. Its good for millers to claim with there first posts so cops don't waist there investigation at night.

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Post Post #65  (isolation #10)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:19 pm

In post 60, Anotora wrote:
In post 54, Pepchoninga wrote:Fake claiming is very possible with miller. It is a common tactic. Tho you do seem to be saying the truth. This probably means RC has a good chance of being scum tho.


Pepchoninga, could you explain more specifically why you think Firebringer's claim is more credible than RC's?

They both seem fishy since you obviously can't fully trust fast claims like that, but Fires was first and RCa felt unnecessary and really just there to start something up.

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Post Post #66  (isolation #11)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:20 pm

In post 63, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.

I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie. What makes you think I'm scummy?

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Post Post #77  (isolation #12)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:28 pm

In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:pac that meta is not true - it was true in the old days maybe

a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - :shifty: ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.

I see. Well, I was just acting of common sence, since usually when you start claiming the same role it's either a TvS, a SvS or in this case a RVS discussion.

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Post Post #78  (isolation #13)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:30 pm

In post 72, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 63, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.

I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie. What makes you think I'm scummy?


It's because you do things and look at things by the book, using the site meta as a manual. It feels either scummy or newbie but I guess it's possible that you just approach things like that?

I look at the manual when I don't have experience with something. I haven't encountered a game (either read or played in) where there was a miller or at peast a claim for one.

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Post Post #82  (isolation #14)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:32 pm

In post 79, Garmr wrote:
In post 77, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:pac that meta is not true - it was true in the old days maybe

a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - :shifty: ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.

I see. Well, I was just acting of common sence, since usually when you start claiming the same role it's either a TvS, a SvS or in this case a RVS discussion.

What scum would want to counterclaim miller especially this early in the game. Also I know firebringer enough to know he wouldn't fakeclaim miller as scum.

Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.

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Post Post #83  (isolation #15)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:34 pm

In post 80, -Grey- wrote:
In post 77, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:pac that meta is not true - it was true in the old days maybe

a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - :shifty: ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.

I see. Well, I was just acting of common sence, since usually when you start claiming the same role it's either a TvS, a SvS or in this case a RVS discussion.


If you want to claim common sense, them common sense should have told you that a real cc would have been accompanied with a vote.

It could also be provocative.

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Post Post #91  (isolation #16)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:38 pm

In post 86, -Grey- wrote:
In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.


In post 82, Pepchoninga wrote:Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.


VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

Don't understand how you find any connection between the two posts. In the first one I say I'm not a complete Newbie and it is pretty insulting saying that (even if I make dumb mistakes) and in the second one I say that since I don't know you as players as well as you know each other, I cannot say if somebody would do something or not, like some of you have done till now.

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Post Post #100  (isolation #17)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:44 pm

In post 97, -Grey- wrote:
In post 91, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 86, -Grey- wrote:
In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.


In post 82, Pepchoninga wrote:Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.


VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

Don't understand how you find any connection between the two posts. In the first one I say I'm not a complete Newbie and it is pretty insulting saying that (even if I make dumb mistakes) and in the second one I say that since I don't know you as players as well as you know each other, I cannot say if somebody would do something or not, like some of you have done till now.


If you're not a newbie, you don't need to know us personally to read us.

Read between the lines, newbie.

Hey now, play it nice. Also please read what I'm saying and to waht I'm replying before you actually start lynching for no reason.

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Post Post #114  (isolation #18)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:55 pm

In post 110, Anotora wrote:
Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 70, Anotora wrote:
In post 68, -Grey- wrote:Too early for Garmr. I think my opinion of Anotora is pretty obvious.


Judging by your ISO it would seem like I'm the only one in the game you have an opinion of.

In post 89, Anotora wrote:You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on his actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.


I like to know how these two post add up in you're mind. can you explain how someone who is picky on you has a pro town scum hunting effort?

and I mean I like to know what is your opinion about the fact that "he scum reads you for believing Not voting is a topic to be discussed later in day"


Between the two posts of mine that you quoted, Grey posted
-Grey- post #80 wrote:If you want to claim common sense, them common sense should have told you that a real cc would have been accompanied with a vote.

and
-Grey- post #86 wrote:
In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.


In post 82, Pepchoninga wrote:Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.


VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

both of which I thought were productive. So I changed my attitude towards him.

Grey's post on me was totally out of what I said. Don't know how you see it as productive.

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Post Post #116  (isolation #19)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 111, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Okay, I'm good with going back to this.

I will repeat the question Ano asked - why are you lynchhopping?

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Post Post #124  (isolation #20)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 121, -Grey- wrote:
In post 116, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 111, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Okay, I'm good with going back to this.

I will repeat the question Ano asked - why are you lynchhopping?


Your question is as irrelevant as theirs was because I was going back and forth between two scumreads trying to figure out which one I wanted more.

Congratulations, you win.

Actually you seem inconsistent in what you do. You seem pretty confident in your scumread after about five pages of nonsense. Good job.

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Post Post #127  (isolation #21)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:08 pm

And we haven't even gotten anybody to post for the first time ;)

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Post Post #129  (isolation #22)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:08 pm

Edit: haven't gotten everybody

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Post Post #130  (isolation #23)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:09 pm

In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.

That's... not a great contribution on his part.

Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<

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Post Post #132  (isolation #24)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:17 pm

In post 131, -Grey- wrote:
In post 130, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.

That's... not a great contribution on his part.

Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<


Letting people know it annoys you is the worst thing you can do.

I belive in sportsmanship and this includes counting everybody as your equal in a game like that. Since the other things are disrespectful ^^

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Post Post #134  (isolation #25)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:22 pm

In post 133, -Grey- wrote:
In post 132, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 131, -Grey- wrote:
In post 130, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.

That's... not a great contribution on his part.

Has calling me a noob become a meme or something? At least don't use it in your arguments cuz it's getting on my nerves >.<


Letting people know it annoys you is the worst thing you can do.

I belive in sportsmanship and this includes counting everybody as your equal in a game like that. Since the other things are disrespectful ^^


I believe in sportsmanship too. Part of that is nutting up and not letting inconsequential remarks affect your mindset.

I will agree with you on that. Tho I would still like to play without those remarks. Think whatever you wish tho.

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Post Post #138  (isolation #26)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:30 pm

In post 135, Garmr wrote:
In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.

That's... not a great contribution on his part.

So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction but

So far I have a town read on

firebringer
rc

grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.

and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.

I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.

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Post Post #143  (isolation #27)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:55 pm

In post 140, Garmr wrote:
In post 138, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 135, Garmr wrote:
In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.

That's... not a great contribution on his part.

So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction but

So far I have a town read on

firebringer
rc

grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.

and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.

I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.


Post 74 I comment How your post early game seem a little superficial not to deep with analysis. Two reasoning I give why it might be that way is that your newish (I didn't call you a noob) and it's early game.

I actually completely missed your post, so sorry about that. I am admittedly newer to the more competitive ,shaw I say, forum mafia, but me not going deep into anything at the time of you making that post and even now is due to the fact I'm still forming opinions and also I am waiting on everybody to come in and catch up to the couple pages of hit and miss arguments. This is still pretty early game and we do have 2 weeks so I see no reason to rush into any non well though wagons and fire accusations with no real evidence to back it up.

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Post Post #145  (isolation #28)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:59 pm

In post 142, Anotora wrote:-Grey- and Garmr both use the same talking point(!) about RC's miller counterclaim. That is, "it can't be serious; if it was, then RC would have voted Firebringer."

But that's nonsense because RC did, in fact, vote Firebringer! Only four real-life minutes after posting the counterclaim! And RC's vote is still now on Firebringer!

Honestly, RCs vote seemed more RVSish then a serious one. But still we should wait for a resoonce from him.

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Post Post #147  (isolation #29)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:03 pm

In post 146, Garmr wrote:
In post 143, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 140, Garmr wrote:
In post 138, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 135, Garmr wrote:
In post 128, Anotora wrote:So, Garmr was active in this thread for an hour and literally all he did was (jokingly or not) buddy up to Firebringer and comment on Pepchoninga's newbieness.

That's... not a great contribution on his part.

So you expect ground breaking work in rvs and I will work at my own pace. Honestly you haven't really done that much noteworthy either. Also dislike the way you framed my view pepchininga I was pointing to light behavior I didn't understand and tried to find a reasoning to it. I was hoping to see others reaction but

So far I have a town read on

firebringer
rc

grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.

and to be honest My gut is not feeling frozen angel as well at the moment.

I'm sorry was your 3rd sentence directed to me, since I didn't really understand it.


Post 74 I comment How your post early game seem a little superficial not to deep with analysis. Two reasoning I give why it might be that way is that your newish (I didn't call you a noob) and it's early game.

I actually completely missed your post, so sorry about that. I am admittedly newer to the more competitive ,shaw I say, forum mafia, but me not going deep into anything at the time of you making that post and even now is due to the fact I'm still forming opinions and also I am waiting on everybody to come in and catch up to the couple pages of hit and miss arguments. This is still pretty early game and we do have 2 weeks so I see no reason to rush into any non well though wagons and fire accusations with no real evidence to back it up.

I like this answer I'm generally saying what's in my head at this time. Still through I do have a slight paranoia about you but I can't find anything to justify it.

Honestly I belive its normal to have a slight paranoia. This actually gives me a good slight town-read. We are early game and very little things may seem scummy. That's why I love having long days since it really helps you get beyond that paranoia and follow people's though process to get good reads and form strong arguments.

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Post Post #149  (isolation #30)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:04 pm

Edit: Gives me a good slight town read on you (so it doesn't bring up confusion)

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Post Post #153  (isolation #31)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:07 pm

@Mod I belive Obvious Alt voted for Grey, just a heads up.

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Post Post #238  (isolation #32)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:24 am

In post 172, Alisae wrote:Don't mind me I'm just gonna quickly skim 7 pages.

Yeiiii, Alidick <3

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Post Post #239  (isolation #33)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:25 am

In post 176, Alisae wrote:
In post 49, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 43, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 39, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 33, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 28, BigYoshiFan wrote:Perfect!


o.o

I think that means I'm winning!!
:)

VOTE: Srceenplay
Somebody has a deal with the mod! xD

That statement is untrue. That makes you a liar. Vote all liars.

VOTE: Pep
Fucking disgusting

I know right? I could smell something from miles away :P

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Post Post #240  (isolation #34)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:26 am

In post 177, Alisae wrote:
In post 63, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.
I agree with this statement 100%.
Mostly because I know em.

You say I'm a noob too?

That's why I don't like playing with ya :(

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Post Post #241  (isolation #35)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:27 am

In post 179, Alisae wrote:
In post 100, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 97, -Grey- wrote:
In post 91, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 86, -Grey- wrote:
In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.


In post 82, Pepchoninga wrote:Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.


VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

Don't understand how you find any connection between the two posts. In the first one I say I'm not a complete Newbie and it is pretty insulting saying that (even if I make dumb mistakes) and in the second one I say that since I don't know you as players as well as you know each other, I cannot say if somebody would do something or not, like some of you have done till now.


If you're not a newbie, you don't need to know us personally to read us.

Read between the lines, newbie.

Hey now, play it nice. Also please read what I'm saying and to waht I'm replying before you actually start lynching for no reason.
You're talking to Grey. Good luck with that.
With that said, I like you.

You like me, or Grey?

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Post Post #243  (isolation #36)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:30 am

In post 191, Alisae wrote:
In post 190, -Grey- wrote:
In post 188, Alisae wrote:I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay


Woooow. All that from five posts.
I know right!
Aren't I amazing at this game!

What the hell was that tho? Seems like Grey asked a provocative question, Alis answered with a sarcastic answer and got a passive response...is this a buddy request?

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Post Post #244  (isolation #37)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:31 am

In post 242, Alisae wrote:
In post 240, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 177, Alisae wrote:
In post 63, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.
I agree with this statement 100%.
Mostly because I know em.

You say I'm a noob too?

That's why I don't like playing with ya :(
Don't throw shade at me!
I wanna work with you!
Hell, you get benefits from it too!

I would work with you if you admit I'm your superior...you have wounded my heart enough :(

Now, please don't go to far in my private space ;)

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Post Post #249  (isolation #38)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:34 am

In post 246, Alisae wrote:
In post 244, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 242, Alisae wrote:
In post 240, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 177, Alisae wrote:
In post 63, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.
I agree with this statement 100%.
Mostly because I know em.

You say I'm a noob too?

That's why I don't like playing with ya :(
Don't throw shade at me!
I wanna work with you!
Hell, you get benefits from it too!

I would work with you if you admit I'm your superior...you have wounded my heart enough :(

Now, please don't go to far in my private space ;)
I don't think you are anything close to townleader if that's what you mean.

I am your leader :P

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Post Post #251  (isolation #39)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:35 am

In post 241, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 179, Alisae wrote:
In post 100, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 97, -Grey- wrote:
In post 91, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 86, -Grey- wrote:
In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.


In post 82, Pepchoninga wrote:Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.


VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

Don't understand how you find any connection between the two posts. In the first one I say I'm not a complete Newbie and it is pretty insulting saying that (even if I make dumb mistakes) and in the second one I say that since I don't know you as players as well as you know each other, I cannot say if somebody would do something or not, like some of you have done till now.


If you're not a newbie, you don't need to know us personally to read us.

Read between the lines, newbie.

Hey now, play it nice. Also please read what I'm saying and to waht I'm replying before you actually start lynching for no reason.
You're talking to Grey. Good luck with that.
With that said, I like you.

You like me, or Grey?

I would like and answer btw.

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Post Post #254  (isolation #40)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:37 am

In post 250, -Grey- wrote:
In post 248, Alisae wrote:
In post 247, -Grey- wrote:
In post 245, Alisae wrote:Grey buddying me?
Fucking Disgusting.


That was just mean, buddy.
Okay Grey. Let me ask you this honestly: Would you ever buddy me?


I wouldn't rule anything out as a possibility. It all depends on circumstances, buddy.

You repeatedly saying buddy is not giving me good signs :P

But you get good leans from me for now. Even tho Grey has been a bit of a pain i. The ass xd

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Post Post #257  (isolation #41)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:37 am

In post 253, -Grey- wrote:
In post 251, Pepchoninga wrote:I would like and answer btw.


Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!

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Post Post #262  (isolation #42)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:40 am

In post 260, Alisae wrote:
In post 257, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 253, -Grey- wrote:
In post 251, Pepchoninga wrote:I would like and answer btw.


Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!
No...This isn't a slip Peppy...
I usually like to push people who push slips that aren't slips hard, but this is definitely not a slip.
But he either said that for 2 reasons.
A. He actually is trying to pocket me.
B. Sarcasm. I bet it's the 2nd one.
Either way the reasons are WIFOM

I was joking :| like everyone in this conversation for the past 2 pages probably...

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Post Post #263  (isolation #43)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:42 am

In post 261, -Grey- wrote:
In post 257, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 253, -Grey- wrote:
In post 251, Pepchoninga wrote:I would like and answer btw.


Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!


Where is your vote then?

Why would I vote you now? You haven't done anything to me except tell me how bad I am, wich is obviously not a good sign in my book, but you also have good vibes, apart from the vote hopping from time to time.

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Post Post #265  (isolation #44)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:43 am

In post 258, Garmr wrote:I Would like to point out that anotora still has dodged a majority of of the points made against him and attacks others he def deserves a bigger wagon.

I will offer my opinion on screenplay. It wouldn't surprise me if screenplay flips town but he hasn't really tried to make contributions to the game. So I can see why town would want to vote him. My gut tells me if screenplay flips town anotora would be the start of scum jumping on and the three before him are most likely town.

I have warmed up to Pepchoninga while I have had a good feeling from alisae from his entrance. Firebringer is confirmed town in my book and everyone should treat him as such. Anotora I feel like is the scum on the wagon. I would think they are scum no matter the alignment of pepchoninga flip but a town flip makes them look worse.

@firebringer I think you have a bit confirmation bias with anotora you don't have to vote but at least consider all my points and discuss them with me?

I will have to reread Anotora's ISO to form a clearer opinion on him. I know you didn't ask for my opinion but hey, I guess we are all needed in the disscussion.

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Post Post #267  (isolation #45)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:44 am

In post 264, -Grey- wrote:
In post 260, Alisae wrote:
In post 257, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 253, -Grey- wrote:
In post 251, Pepchoninga wrote:I would like and answer btw.


Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!
No...This isn't a slip Peppy...
I usually like to push people who push slips that aren't slips hard, but this is definitely not a slip.
But he either said that for 2 reasons.
A. He actually is trying to pocket me.
B. Sarcasm. I bet it's the 2nd one.
Either way the reasons are WIFOM


Maybe I misunderestimated you.

That's his tactic...he plays nice and jokey in the beginning then you don't fucking know wether he'll flip town or mafia.

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Post Post #268  (isolation #46)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:46 am

In post 266, -Grey- wrote:
In post 263, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 261, -Grey- wrote:
In post 257, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 253, -Grey- wrote:
In post 251, Pepchoninga wrote:I would like and answer btw.


Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!


Where is your vote then?

Why would I vote you now? You haven't done anything to me except tell me how bad I am, wich is obviously not a good sign in my book, but you also have good vibes, apart from the vote hopping from time to time.


If it's a slip, that makes me scum does it not?

It doesn't MAKE you scum, it just gives you a scum look. What MAKES you scum is if a cop gets an investigation on you or you flip scum after you die. You can never be 100% sure about anybody even if they slip. If you can, then you are not town.

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Post Post #274  (isolation #47)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:53 am

In post 271, -Grey- wrote:
In post 268, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 266, -Grey- wrote:
In post 263, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 261, -Grey- wrote:
In post 257, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 253, -Grey- wrote:
In post 251, Pepchoninga wrote:I would like and answer btw.


Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!


Where is your vote then?

Why would I vote you now? You haven't done anything to me except tell me how bad I am, wich is obviously not a good sign in my book, but you also have good vibes, apart from the vote hopping from time to time.


If it's a slip, that makes me scum does it not?

It doesn't MAKE you scum, it just gives you a scum look. What MAKES you scum is if a cop gets an investigation on you or you flip scum after you die. You can never be 100% sure about anybody even if they slip. If you can, then you are not town.


You advised me of slipping. Presumably, you meant making a scumslip. Only scum can scumslip. Town can't do that. Hence, scumslip.

If I scumslipped, the proper course of action is to lynch me because I'm scum.

I don't really know what you are trying to squish out of this situation. Cuz it seems you just don't have anything better to go for. If I had a real lead on you and was sure in your lynch I would've lynched you even without a flip. Yet this is not the case, so for now I see no further use of me explaining it.

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Post Post #279  (isolation #48)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:01 am

In post 139, Garmr wrote:
In post 15, Anotora wrote:
In post 14, -Grey- wrote:No Lynch is never an option on d1.


Yet you voted for it.

Hello captain obvious

In post 27, Anotora wrote:Garmr, why are your posts so fixated on Firebringer?

Answered this yet you never bothered inquiring further into why not?

In post 45, Anotora wrote:
In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

What if we are both miller? O_o


It's much, much likelier that one of you two is scum.

In post 50, Anotora wrote:RC, you serious about your miller claim? Because if you are then we have at least a 50/50 chance of lynching scum Day 1 and that's a great place to start.

I feel like your just posting this shit to make it seem like your involved. Anyone who's not new can see rc is bull shitting at this point with the lack of vote.

In post 84, Anotora wrote:
In post 67, Frozen Angel wrote:a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - :shifty: ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.


I think it's more likely for a scum to claim miller early than for scum to counterclaim miller. This is in part because of how unlikely two millers are.

If Firebringer is scum, then claiming miller was a big risk for him that could also have paid off. On the other hand, if RadiantCowbells is scum, claiming miller would be a terrible move, since at best he'd get a mislynch on Firebringer and then be confirmed scum, and at worst he'd be lynched straight off Day 1.

It almost seems to me like we should put such a bad scum move past RC and vote Firebringer, but that's WIFOMy.

I'm not doing anything either way until RC confirms that his claim was serious.

engage in wifom then right off your own post as wifomy what's the motivation as town to do this. It seems counter productive and just looks like something someone would post to make it look like their doing something.


In post 89, Anotora wrote:
In post 81, Frozen Angel wrote:ahh let me make the case then:

In post 14, -Grey- wrote:No. No Lynch is never an option on d1. That you are feigning objection to it for now and keeping it open as a possibility for later if town is amenable to it gives me scum vibes.


@Anotora , You stated your not a fan of Grey no lynch vote, but thats a topic to discus later in day. Grey beleives you're scum for pretending/suggesting No lynch is a viable discussable option in day 1.

what that makes you think about Grey and his rvs no lynch vote and then his next vote on you?


You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on his actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.

Compliments grey on his scum hunting and calls him pro town doesn't list anypoints seems like a generic make believe read.

In post 96, Anotora wrote:
In post 92, Frozen Angel wrote:no I asked what that particular thing I said means to you.

Could you rephrase that? I don't understand.

-Grey- wrote:
In post 89, Anotora wrote:You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on his actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.


I'm protown for scumreading you with clear posts with actual points to them?

Sounds like a confession if I ever heard one.

VOTE: Anotora


Why are you votehopping?

Contradicts the last post by calling him out for vote hopping. If grey makes good points why are you asking him about his vote hopping and instead not try and argue against his case against you. Instead of trying to figure out why he scum reads you. You scarecrow him in a different direction.

In post 112, Anotora wrote:
In post 101, Frozen Angel wrote:and I mean I like to know what is your opinion about the fact that "he scum reads you for believing Not voting is a topic to be discussed later in day"

I mean, it was a reasonable thing for him to criticize, especially considering that was only page 1 and we didn't have a lot to go off of.

So it's ok early game to not say much ok.

In post 115, Anotora wrote:
In post 111, -Grey- wrote:VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Okay, I'm good with going back to this.


It almost seems like you're rewarding me for townreading you, by taking your vote off of me and putting it back on Pepchoninga. That's the scummiest thing you've done so far.

But grey has such good town read right you think his points on pepchoninga were good from his perspective. You don't seem fussed with his actual reasoning to vote you in the first place. Seems like your just attacking here for a possible vote.

VOTE: anotora

Garmr makes some really nice points here. A common thing I see is the Ano seems to be trying to hard to be involved. His posts seems kinda forced at times, also he took more time on the stupid milner ccs then needed, even tho it is widely expected that it was just some RVS messing combined with other reasons. Props to getting Screenplay into the scene, since lurkers are quite dangerous, but still this doesn't ignore my last point. I might be repeating what others have said but this is the thing that mostly stuck out in his posts and other people's cases on him

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Post Post #281  (isolation #49)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:02 am

In post 141, Anotora wrote:
In post 137, Obvious Alt wrote:
In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.

All aboard choo choo choo.

Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

Is this for real?
In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.

All aboard choo choo choo.

Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

What if we are both miller? O_o

Super unlikely.


Thanks for getting us back on track. The fact that RadiantCowbells has ignored calls to double down on his miller counterclaim, is cause for action. Since ObviousAlt is here to play and doesn't seem anti-information as I worried she might, I'm going to move my vote to pressure RC.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

This is a strange post again. He just seems to not want to leave this RC shit alone and is just looking to squish anything he can. Seems like a desperate move to fit in and do some scumhunting imo.

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Post Post #283  (isolation #50)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:03 am

In post 275, -Grey- wrote:
In post 274, Pepchoninga wrote:I don't really know what you are trying to squish out of this situation.


My point is if you think I scumslipped you need to put your vote where your mouth is.

There is no town benefit to slinging shade around without backing it up with a push.

I do understand that completely. I wouldn't acuse of a slip and not back it up with evidence and a lynch or at least start a case against you exept in this situation where I admited of joking, but I don't think you need that as a reminder.

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Post Post #288  (isolation #51)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:06 am

In post 276, Garmr wrote:Off the top of my head and so I can remeber how I'm feeling for latter
Confirmed town
Yoshi

Confirmed town to me
Myself :P


Solid Town reads
Firebringer
Alisae
Rc

slight town leans
Pepchoninga
-grey- his slot has been jumpy to me through but it hasn't dropped past a null.


scummy
Frozen angel- I think I have to elaborate on this one. Frozen has 30 post 8 pages in and she hasn't really put down a solid stance. Her vote is own me with no real serious reasoning for it to be there other than I voted her. I noticed that she was implying that grey was scummy but didn't jump on him in post 71. She ask for peoples opinions on players and does nothing with it. After this she is just defending herself from firebringers weak push (no offense buddy but your push on frozen seems kinda weak). Frozen angel to my memory is a paranoid player who is quick to push for reasons that puzzle me sometimes. She is not that she is not parinoid she is content with the situation she is in despite actually not hunting or anything. This is not a town frozen.

Anotora-Stated my reasons multiple times.

Yoshi smells scum to me...:P

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Post Post #289  (isolation #52)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:11 am

In post 285, Alisae wrote:
In post 279, Pepchoninga wrote:Garmr makes some really nice points here. A common thing I see is the Ano seems to be trying to hard to be involved. His posts seems kinda forced at times, also he took more time on the stupid milner ccs then needed, even tho it is widely expected that it was just some RVS messing combined with other reasons. Props to getting Screenplay into the scene, since lurkers are quite dangerous, but still this doesn't ignore my last point. I might be repeating what others have said but this is the thing that mostly stuck out in his posts and other people's cases on him
Why do you think he (who the fuck is he in this case) spent more time on the miller ccs then he should have?
Screenplay lurking? EHHHHHHHH Thats a stretch.
Screenplay not contributing? That sounds more about right.

I don't know what is wrong with the post tbh. I wanted to give an opinion on Antora. I think that he was to keen on the Fire vs RC situation and trying to make something out of nothing. This seems like a move to try and fit with town.

It has been a mish mash tbh. Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.

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Post Post #290  (isolation #53)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:11 am

In post 286, RadiantCowbells wrote:I really hate 279 as well. It feels squarely what I would expect from Pepchoninga if they were scumbuddies. Also could just be scum in general.

I was townreading some earlier posts though.

Would you like to elaborate what you dislike about the post?

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Post Post #294  (isolation #54)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:18 am

Kinda don't understand what you meant by waffy, but I guess you thought my arguments were shit. I understand, it was just what popped in my head first and since people were very keen on the guy and I hadn't really gathered a good opinion troughout reading his post on the way I desided to reread his ISO and others cases to make a statement on the situation.

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Post Post #348  (isolation #55)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:12 am

In post 295, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 294, Pepchoninga wrote:Kinda don't understand what you meant by waffy, but I guess you thought my arguments were shit. I understand, it was just what popped in my head first and since people were very keen on the guy and I hadn't really gathered a good opinion troughout reading his post on the way I desided to reread his ISO and others cases to make a statement on the situation.


No, not shit. It's that they lacked direction and you didn't have a clear thought process and that's very common for scum.

Honestly I would argue with you on that. I might of gotten some of my thoughts confused but what I was thinking was said very loud and clear. Having read Ano's ISO I have a slight SR on him.

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Post Post #350  (isolation #56)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:13 am

In post 299, RadiantCowbells wrote:Doesn't feel that way. 279 feels extremely 'hey guys I need to say my buddy is scummy then start talking about other people' on top of the waffle.

For some reason RC's avi reminds me of Metal Sonic. I never actually played with Metal Sonic but I heard stories about him


Metal Sonic adapted my Annie avi at one point. He was a pretty cool dude. Are you a pretty cool dude?

Well, don't judge it that way until we have gotten into an actual state of discussion.

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Post Post #351  (isolation #57)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:14 am

Edit: Into an actual state of discussion with him.

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Post Post #354  (isolation #58)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:15 am

In post 300, Alisae wrote:Also am I going fucking crazy, or did's Grey's tone feel like it durasticly change?

Honestly his tone has been changing throughout the game so far.

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Post Post #363  (isolation #59)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:32 am

In post 353, Anotora wrote:Here's the sum up of what I think of all the active players so far, not that anyone asked.

-Grey-

+ Consistently good reasons for his votes, except obviously #94 is weird from my own perspective
+ Consistent tone
+ Independent of others

Alisae

+ Points out inconsistencies in others' play
? Wagoning the lurker
- Contribution is limited beyond "I like you", "I don't like you".

Firebringer

+ Believeable miller claim
? Non-substantial activity except for a few reads until the spat with Frozen Angel

Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward

Garmr

- Only started building his strawmannish tunnel case on me after I pressured him at #128
+ Consistent productive activity

Obvious Alt

+ Good gut read from her single post
? Inactive

Pepchoninga

- Lots of non-substantial activity
- Says that he has a good read on -Grey- in #254, suspects -Grey- of a scumslip in #257, "it was a joke" in #262
- Acts extremely noncommittal and tries not to get in the thick of discussion. Has repeatedly expressed he wants a long day. #268 is abysmally bad.
- In #279 he postures noncommittally so as to maybe get on my wagon in the future. I think if he were town he would have straight up voted me instead of keeping the joke vote he's had on Srceenplay since page 3. Speaking of his srceenplay vote, he hasn't said a single word about it since that wagon turned serious. Suspicious.

RadiantCowbells
+ Independent of others
+ Productive activity

Srceenplay
- Lurking with non-substantial activity
- Does nothing when called out on this
- Sheeps onto wagons


I didn't realize how strong of a read I would get going through Pepchoninga's ISO, but now I find him real scummy. I think his strategy is to wait for a wagon that has a solid chance of resulting in a lynch. In the meantime, he talks a lot but really says nothing.

VOTE: Pepchoninga

Good post, with actual opinion. That's a first. I am active but I'm not really going ham for reasons already explained. I would like to wait for everybody to post there first posts, so I can get my reads up. You can't start a disscussion when there are people who haven't even gotten into the game. We have 2 weeks to form opinion and to execute our game plans. Why should I rush something like that? You know if I was scum I would I want long days? I might be newish, but I'm not stupid. I want to prevent fast and unnecessary wagons until we have everybody up and running. I am getting into discussions and provoking reactions. Please reread the situation of Grey, since if you take anything in those posts seriously I think you need a doctor. As I said, if I was serious for a second about the Grey slip I would've started making a case on him and ultimately going for a lynch. In the light of that I don't see how this argument is valid. Why is post #268 so bad? And no, I won't vote you for something so little. What you did is gave you a slight scum read but this doesn't mean I would lynch you. When I see a target I am sure about you will see me attacking with full strength. I belive that lynching people is not always a good thing. It is a way of pressuring and a way of starting/continuing/finishing the action of killing. But it's also a tool that if placed wrong could get you lynched without doing anything. I belive we should deduce what people do and have discussions about it and then starting to throw pressure lynches and straight up wagon lynches. My vote on Screenplay was a RVS vote and I also have commented on the Screenplay situation.

While I say your post is good, you really don't give much on the other players exect pluses and minuses. Why would you even bother to comment on them if you are gonna point out how active they are.

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Post Post #365  (isolation #60)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:34 am

In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.

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Post Post #379  (isolation #61)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:14 am

In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.

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Post Post #380  (isolation #62)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:17 am

In post 367, Garmr wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

I don't think she has asked any right question but lets go off what you said.

Your two answer contradict. You acknowledge that she has been asking questions yet she does nothing with them. This does nothing to push discussion forward it actually cuts it off as soon as a question is answered.


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no peps just no 353 was not a good post. That's a newbie mistake to think lots of words = good post. People are already pointing out flaws instantly.

Well I belive lots of words can either be a game winner or a lynch material if you don't follow your own thoughts. But also a big post like that can't suffer from misunderstanding. The problem is there are many flaws and really bad points at least on my case wich was the biggest. Also the absence of pure reads is strange. Why go pointing out who makes what in that way and don't follow it up with some opinions on who he thinks is who.

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Post Post #384  (isolation #63)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:28 am

In post 382, Anotora wrote:Let me be perfectly clear, then, if you don't think I'm clear enough. I think Pepcho/Srceenplay are a scum team, and the third scum is either one of the inactives or a relatively skillful player we can't root out yet with the given information.

Great, we have a game solver...tbh, your recent posts seem to be very aggressive. Is it of frustration or because you are angry that your game plan didn't work? This isn't provocative or anything I'm just trying to see a reaction and an answer.

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Post Post #387  (isolation #64)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:31 am

In post 381, Anotora wrote:
In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.

You're not "pointing out the obvious". Rather, you're reaching for ways to defend him, still, even now that I'm calling you out on it. And I find that absolutely fascinating.

I'm pointing out his flaws but also not pushing his button. Why should I? He hasn't made one good post. The only things against him are a bit of lurking and cockiness in his one liners. While this is suspicious it is something a not so active town could do too. Until he becomes more active and starts doing stuff I cannot get a clear opinion on him on Day 1. At least I think so. I don't know how you get your theory of me being scum buddies. You are panicking.

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Post Post #391  (isolation #65)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:41 am

In post 386, Anotora wrote:
In post 384, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 382, Anotora wrote:Let me be perfectly clear, then, if you don't think I'm clear enough. I think Pepcho/Srceenplay are a scum team, and the third scum is either one of the inactives or a relatively skillful player we can't root out yet with the given information.

Great, we have a game solver...tbh, your recent posts seem to be very aggressive. Is it of frustration or because you are angry that your game plan didn't work? This isn't provocative or anything I'm just trying to see a reaction and an answer.

I'm being aggressive on purpose to put pressure on you.

I put my bets on you being frustrated. Your post become angrier for no apparent reason. You could put pressure on me, without being aggressive.

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Post Post #448  (isolation #66)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:08 am

In post 442, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 238, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 172, Alisae wrote:Don't mind me I'm just gonna quickly skim 7 pages.

Yeiiii, Alidick <3

?

Just a welcoming post, nothing in-game related.

Also welcome to you too I guess ^^

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Post Post #450  (isolation #67)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:19 am

Honestly I didn't understand much from the argument betweet Garmr and Angel. So if I don't completely understand something or say something that wasn't interpretated right, please correct me.

Really what I will say is Garmr has made some good posts. I've had experience with players asking too many questions but not doing anything with the information. It is (as I think was stated by somebody) the best way for scum to look productive and fit in with town. But honestly this is the only good point I find in her, that I fully understood from her posts and the conversation with Garmr.

One thing I agree with on Angel is that it is too early for us to be pushing for a real lynch. Applying pressure and pushing buttons to get reactions and from the get answer to create reads and opinions - yes. Going for a full on hammer is definitely something we should not.

Really tho, after reading there argument I cannot stop myself thinking it looks like a TvT scenario. Angel can't really explain her case on Garmr, but her reaction and posts just don't really seem scummy. (Maybe because she is a female and this is actually not helping me get her character) ((I mean is she a female?) Garmr has a good read in my mind and his activeness and overall wanting to scumhunt and go after his targets and create good cases is signs of good town. Tho I don't think his case was completely well polished or at least understandable.

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Post Post #453  (isolation #68)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:24 am

In post 449, keyenpeydee wrote:Okay so I've read the whole pages and skim read the 17th page because it's TL;DR and what I just know is that Anotora is so scummy af and he needs to be lynched. Idk why but when I started to read everything and FB claiming miller with RC counterclaiming I think is just a joke nor I don't think FB is a real miller. Anatora comes in and starts to type words words words which is boring to read since I disagree with that FB and RC case being serious. Gamer or whatever's case on Anotora is convincing enough to make me vote for him. I also am supportive of the Pep and Ano scum team but hesitant cauz the two looks like newbies.

This is what I understand all throughout the miserable adventure of forcing myself to read and procrastinating my homeworks. I also hate the games I cannot catch up. I'm also on the verge of being replaced but I don't want to be replaced.

I want a VC first before voting Anotora.

Awwww, stop with the newbie shit! Say I'm bad, but don't call me a newbie...Newbies are people with knowledge of the game. Not people who are learning the metas and overall ins and outs of the game...make a difference.

Sorry, got triggered :lol:

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Post Post #454  (isolation #69)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:26 am

In post 452, keyenpeydee wrote:What happened with the quote :o

@Pep, yes she's a girl.

Honestly, I know this isn't professional, but sometimes the distinctive wau girls usually type (not counting everybody off course), just makes it harder for me to actually read them as anything bad or anything that is doing something wrong. Bummer tbh.

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Post Post #458  (isolation #70)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:29 pm

In post 457, BigYoshiFan wrote:
In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.

Again, let's be VERY careful with our choice of words. Please don't refer to an ongoing game(s) for any reason besides activity (which also must be taken with extreme caution).

Well I just said I'm playing a game with him. The other part was related to this game. Still, I will make sure to not reference any other game in the future ^^

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Post Post #463  (isolation #71)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:43 pm

In post 460, Alisae wrote:
In post 363, Pepchoninga wrote:Good post, with actual opinion. That's a first. I am active but I'm not really going ham for reasons already explained. I would like to wait for everybody to post there first posts, so I can get my reads up. You can't start a disscussion when there are people who haven't even gotten into the game. We have 2 weeks to form opinion and to execute our game plans. Why should I rush something like that? You know if I was scum I would I want long days? I might be newish, but I'm not stupid. I want to prevent fast and unnecessary wagons until we have everybody up and running. I am getting into discussions and provoking reactions. Please reread the situation of Grey, since if you take anything in those posts seriously I think you need a doctor. As I said, if I was serious for a second about the Grey slip I would've started making a case on him and ultimately going for a lynch. In the light of that I don't see how this argument is valid. Why is post #268 so bad? And no, I won't vote you for something so little. What you did is gave you a slight scum read but this doesn't mean I would lynch you. When I see a target I am sure about you will see me attacking with full strength. I belive that lynching people is not always a good thing. It is a way of pressuring and a way of starting/continuing/finishing the action of killing. But it's also a tool that if placed wrong could get you lynched without doing anything. I belive we should deduce what people do and have discussions about it and then starting to throw pressure lynches and straight up wagon lynches. My vote on Screenplay was a RVS vote and I also have commented on the Screenplay situation.
A. Why don't you just get your reads up now with what you currently have?
B. You can start a discussion with those currently in the game.
C. Shadethrow.
D. Attack someone will full strength. It's better then what you're currently doing.
E. In this case a lynch is better then a no lynch.

A: I will put up my reads shortly. I belive everybody has either catched up to the game is curently doing that.
B: I have done and if not I'm most certainly trying.
C: Don't see what is shaddy here. Care to elaborate?
D: I think you do know I'm more then capable and willing to attack with full strength. But I curently don't have suspects that are good enough for that, except maybe Ano. But still, I'm IN NO rush. 13 days is more then enough tho.
E: People tend to make arguments from lynches. Many times lynches that aren't thought out with good reasoning can get you a false lynch. I want to be certain in what I do.

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Post Post #466  (isolation #72)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:46 pm

In post 461, Alisae wrote:
In post 365, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.
And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

Explained in last post. Reads will be given, when everybody has catched up.

And yes, this might be true, but he hasn't done reads. He is giving pluses and minuses but not explaining them, nor connecting them with his opinion of the players as a whole. Also we have found many inconsistencies with his "read" (if we can call them that as you suggest) and his previous posts.

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Post Post #469  (isolation #73)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:48 pm

In post 462, Alisae wrote:
In post 379, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 368, Anotora wrote:Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.


You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.
Do you wanna know what would make your defence on him genuine? An unvote.

I don Remember saying I defend him.

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Post Post #470  (isolation #74)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:49 pm

In post 468, Alisae wrote:
In post 466, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 461, Alisae wrote:
In post 365, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 356, Anotora wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 353, Anotora wrote:Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward


So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?


Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.
And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

Explained in last post. Reads will be given, when everybody has catched up.

And yes, this might be true, but he hasn't done reads. He is giving pluses and minuses but not explaining them, nor connecting them with his opinion of the players as a whole. Also we have found many inconsistencies with his "read" (if we can call them that as you suggest) and his previous posts.
No, fuck you. Do them now.

Ok, if you so wish - check my next post, since I want it to be clear.

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Post Post #474  (isolation #75)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:55 pm

Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.

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Post Post #485  (isolation #76)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:04 pm

In post 473, Alisae wrote:
In post 463, Pepchoninga wrote:C: Don't see what is shaddy here. Care to elaborate?
D: I think you do know I'm more then capable and willing to attack with full strength. But I curently don't have suspects that are good enough for that, except maybe Ano. But still, I'm IN NO rush. 13 days is more then enough tho.
E: People tend to make arguments from lynches. Many times lynches that aren't thought out with good reasoning can get you a false lynch. I want to be certain in what I do.
C. No you are throwing shade at people. By telling someone to go see a doctor. You also threw shade at me with the "alidick" thing.
D. No I'm not lmao. Stop saying you'll fucking do it and actually do it. Unless your scum. If Ano is a suspect do it for Ano.
Let's also add if Ano is your only suspect you can make a case for, why isn't your vote on them?
If you're delaying yourself on purpose, and not voting someone who you think is your strongest scum case, then at this point you're just delaying the day.
E. IIoA. I'm pretty sure this whole stuff you've been saying is super fucking fake anyways because you said it a bit too much. You saying it once gave me a TR read. You saying it multiple times made that TR read go away.

C: Isn't throwing shade your favorite thing den? And the Alidick thing was a friendly joke.
D: Well, sorry but I already answered what I did. I will pressure a lynch when I absolutely sure. Why would I do that as a scum? Why would I prevent myself from putting someone at an L-1. Exept if he isn't my scum parthner in which I would be defending him seing his situation. I'm not delaying the Day. I'm just making sure everybody gets to be in the disscussion.
E: How can you expect different answers when you ask the same questions over and over again. And if my answers don't satisfy you, I'm sorry. I say what I believe in and I don't think repeating it is anything bad.

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Post Post #487  (isolation #77)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:05 pm

In post 476, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 474, Pepchoninga wrote:Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.

Fake

Well, what are your reads. And why are mine fake?

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Post Post #489  (isolation #78)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:06 pm

In post 482, Frozen Angel wrote:Pap weren't you defending screen based on a game before?

I'm confused

No, I'm not defending him. I'm saying he is either a bad scum or there is something preventing him from playing to his fullest.

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Post Post #495  (isolation #79)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:16 pm

In post 475, Alisae wrote:
In post 474, Pepchoninga wrote:Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.
The bolded are ones you should be explaining.
Also it would really make your top scumread a lot more genuine if you were voting for them.

Alt is a player I cannot judge since he has like 2-3 posts at max. His explanation was semi-good, but I need more. Same with Radiant Cowbell. I can't really read him at this point. Grey is a person that is very inconsistent in the way he behaves. This means that he is usually constantly moving from slight town to slight scum leans. Atm tho he is a solid null. Frozen seems very shaky in her defense but I also belive she is town from her response and reactions. Fire's claim was beliveable enough and also while he isn't very active what he has done seems pro-town at least for now. You have been doing good job with asking questions and doing something about, so I like that. Tho you are the same old bote so you are still not a very strong town.

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Post Post #499  (isolation #80)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 491, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 489, Pepchoninga wrote:No, I'm not defending him. I'm saying he is either a bad scum or there is something preventing him from playing to his fullest.


ok

just checked again you're right

so why didn't you react to this :

In post 462, Alisae wrote:Do you wanna know what would make your defence on him genuine? An unvote.


before?

I have. I asked for what he actually though. But since my RVS vote makes so much trouble
UNVOTE: Srceenplay

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Post Post #508  (isolation #81)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:23 pm

In post 490, Alisae wrote:D. When you're absolutely sure that's not a pressure lynch anymore.
Now you're just fencesitting.
I hate the "Why would I do that as scum" bullshit as of recently. Same thing as "I would do X as scum" All just a bunch of WIFOM
You're also not attacking them either.
E. Where have I asked the same questions over and over again?

I have answered to the best of my possibility.

Well you are acusing me of wanting to prolong the day. I'm asking you is this a scum move? What do you think I should do to make you change your opinion? Asking what you think I should do.

Well you get the same answers. Maybe you're just asking the same questions.

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Post Post #509  (isolation #82)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:25 pm

In post 501, Alisae wrote:
In post 495, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 475, Alisae wrote:
In post 474, Pepchoninga wrote:Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.
The bolded are ones you should be explaining.
Also it would really make your top scumread a lot more genuine if you were voting for them.

Alt is a player I cannot judge since he has like 2-3 posts at max. His explanation was semi-good, but I need more. Same with Radiant Cowbell. I can't really read him at this point. Grey is a person that is very inconsistent in the way he behaves. This means that he is usually constantly moving from slight town to slight scum leans. Atm tho he is a solid null. Frozen seems very shaky in her defense but I also belive she is town from her response and reactions. Fire's claim was beliveable enough and also while he isn't very active what he has done seems pro-town at least for now. You have been doing good job with asking questions and doing something about, so I like that. Tho you are the same old bote so you are still not a very strong town.
Gun to your head all of your null reads.
Saying their null because you can get a read off of what they have posted is bullshit.

Null read doesn't mean I don't have opinions. Only people posted as null I don't really have opinons on are Alt and keyen.

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Post Post #515  (isolation #83)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:27 pm

In post 500, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 496, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 478, keyenpeydee wrote:Is it funny that Ano and Pep started to buss each other after the two were suspected to be scum buddies? Oh gosh, they're so obvious, don't they?



If it is so obvious, why did they do it?

To not make them obvious partners. That's my theory.

How does this make any sence?

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Post Post #519  (isolation #84)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:31 pm

In post 505, Frozen Angel wrote:If grey is a slight scum lean why you put his name in as null? If you beleive I'm town why you put me in there as a null read?

If said he has bounced from scum to town leans and back to null. Atm I feel most comfortable putting him as a null.

And I said your responses look town, but I do support some of things Garmr has said. That is why you are still a null.

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Post Post #522  (isolation #85)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:32 pm

In post 518, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 515, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 500, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 496, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 478, keyenpeydee wrote:Is it funny that Ano and Pep started to buss each other after the two were suspected to be scum buddies? Oh gosh, they're so obvious, don't they?



If it is so obvious, why did they do it?

To not make them obvious partners. That's my theory.

How does this make any sence?

Because yall fucked up

Lol, I can't follow what you wanna say. Cuz it makes zero sence really.

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Post Post #523  (isolation #86)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:32 pm

In post 517, Frozen Angel wrote:pep you kindda dodged commenting about my post accusing you to be picky regarding my arguments with Garmr

Was this intentional or you just forgot commenting about it?

Sorry, for the relatively late response but it is already up ^^

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Post Post #530  (isolation #87)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:37 pm

In post 529, Alisae wrote:
In post 524, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 521, Alisae wrote:Dear Keyen and Screenplay
Please add shit to the game.
Love, Alisae

I'm waiting for D2 and I got my post count up just for you.
LOLWTF WHY?
Are you basicly saying that you have no stance on what is going on and that you have no reads?

This really is very funny. Like wtf..

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Post Post #533  (isolation #88)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 519, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 505, Frozen Angel wrote:If grey is a slight scum lean why you put his name in as null? If you beleive I'm town why you put me in there as a null read?

If said he has bounced from scum to town leans and back to null. Atm I feel most comfortable putting him as a null.

And I said your responses look town, but I do support some of things Garmr has said. That is why you are still a null.

I think this should answer your question. If not, please quote what you mean since there is to many posts xD kinda hard to keep up with everything.

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Post Post #538  (isolation #89)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:42 pm

In post 532, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 522, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 518, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 515, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 500, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 496, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 478, keyenpeydee wrote:Is it funny that Ano and Pep started to buss each other after the two were suspected to be scum buddies? Oh gosh, they're so obvious, don't they?



If it is so obvious, why did they do it?

To not make them obvious partners. That's my theory.

How does this make any sence?

Because yall fucked up

Lol, I can't follow what you wanna say. Cuz it makes zero sence really.

Well, It's like this: [Someone] had suspected you two to be scum partners. Ano starts to scum read you and you start to scum read Ano which is like scum partners who just fucked up. Newbscum who just fucked up.

Gut feeling.

He started suspecting me before this scum parthner thing even came up. I belive I questioned him before that too. So yeah, I think you might be wrong.

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Post Post #543  (isolation #90)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:44 pm

In post 536, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 535, RadiantCowbells wrote:Frozen Angel is not my lover.
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one.
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

Sounds to me like a personal problem.

Screenplay what is this? Like you are openly just posting crap across the board.

I may be contradicting myself, but you have not been lurking for the past few hours. You have been actively making fun of the game state.

VOTE: Srceenplay

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Post Post #549  (isolation #91)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:48 pm

In post 540, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 538, Pepchoninga wrote:He started suspecting me before this scum parthner thing even came up. I belive I questioned him before that too. So yeah, I think you might be wrong.

But is it that bad if you two still feel like scum partners? I also stated "gut feeling" which is always what I do.

Well, this I cannot help but hope to change. I still belive that the many inconsistencies that he has done make him my top scum target even with the laughable behavior that Srceenplay has showed us. And yes I did saw the gut feeling part. This is giving me hope that I can show you that you may be wrong both about your gut feeling and about me as a whole.

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Post Post #552  (isolation #92)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:50 pm

In post 545, Alisae wrote:
In post 543, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 536, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 535, RadiantCowbells wrote:Frozen Angel is not my lover.
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one.
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

Sounds to me like a personal problem.

Screenplay what is this? Like you are openly just posting crap across the board.

I may be contradicting myself, but you have not been lurking for the past few hours. You have been actively making fun of the game state.

VOTE: Srceenplay
This is scum!pep attempting to push Screenplay cause he was caught.

No, this is Pep doing a pressure lynch since what Srceenplay is doing is very shady. As I said this may contradict with what I've said but I belive now it is necessary.

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Post Post #557  (isolation #93)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:52 pm

In post 550, Alisae wrote:
In post 546, RadiantCowbells wrote:Weren't you voting and pushing Screenplay?
I was.
If you are wondering what makes our pushes difference, pushed early and then unvoted to push Pep.
To me Pep feels like he's trying to push to get pressure off of him.

I'm at an L-6 or L-5...I don't belive that this is a situation I should stress upon. I belive that I will change your mind and you said I was taking action. Well in situations like that even my usually weary self when it comes to lynching takes action.

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Post Post #559  (isolation #94)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:52 pm

Edit: I wasn't taking action

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Post Post #563  (isolation #95)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:55 pm

In post 560, -Grey- wrote:
In post 522, Pepchoninga wrote:Lol, I can't follow what you wanna say. Cuz it makes zero sence really.


If you're going to insult somebody's intelligence... spell check.

I wasn't insulting anybody really. I was just saying that the 2-3 posts that were discussed didn't make sence and were contradicting themselves.

Also you are one to talk about insulting...

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Post Post #566  (isolation #96)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:59 pm

In post 562, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 488, Frozen Angel wrote:and what the hell is she is a girl so I can't read her ...

I mean wtf! ... siriously

and where did I defend garmr case with "I won't vote for lynch" ? I was saying that to explain why my early vote on him wasn't serious in that way he was interpreting it from my post. Seems like a very picky point in the whole discussion


Pep I meant this ^

you ignored this post and its really important

and RC I feel you might be town based on you're push on ano mainly but I won't trust my gut when its you. You're fangs bite hard. These people might not know BUT I doooo

Oh well sorry about that, I guess I didn't really pay attention when reading it.

And no, don't take me wrong, it's just that since I have huge respect for females and sometimes it really bugs me off when I have to read them in a game like that. It's not that I can't, it's just that you always seem good. This is the case with all females that aren't acting like dicks on forums.

And well about the second one. I will have to go back and see what I said, but as I said I may have misunderstood what you were saying, since I did get quite confused in the argument between you too. And yes, your early vote didn't seem very serious to me either.

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Post Post #568  (isolation #97)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:01 pm

In post 564, -Grey- wrote:
In post 563, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 560, -Grey- wrote:
In post 522, Pepchoninga wrote:Lol, I can't follow what you wanna say. Cuz it makes zero sence really.


If you're going to insult somebody's intelligence... spell check.

I wasn't insulting anybody really. I was just saying that the 2-3 posts that were discussed didn't make sence and were contradicting themselves.

Also you are one to talk about insulting...


Yo mama.

You use Yo mama jokes in 2017!!!

Geez I love that shit too.

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Post Post #570  (isolation #98)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:02 pm

In post 565, -Grey- wrote:
In post 563, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 560, -Grey- wrote:
In post 522, Pepchoninga wrote:Lol, I can't follow what you wanna say. Cuz it makes zero sence really.


If you're going to insult somebody's intelligence... spell check.

I wasn't insulting anybody really. I was just saying that the 2-3 posts that were discussed didn't make sence and were contradicting themselves.

Also you are one to talk about insulting...


Also, you still need to spell check. Lol.

Cmon, English is not my first language and I still belive my spelling is pretty good compared to other people like me.

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Post Post #588  (isolation #99)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:05 pm

In post 587, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 585, Alisae wrote:
In post 583, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 537, Alisae wrote:
In post 529, Alisae wrote:
In post 524, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 521, Alisae wrote:Dear Keyen and Screenplay
Please add shit to the game.
Love, Alisae

I'm waiting for D2 and I got my post count up just for you.
LOLWTF WHY?
Are you basicly saying that you have no stance on what is going on and that you have no reads?

Screenplay answer this.

No.
hope that answers your question.
If you have reads then give them.
If you have stances to take then take them.

I have taken a stance.

If your tactic is to annoy us, you are in the right direction.

Tho, if you don't cooperate in the slightest, you are going to get lynched sooner or later.

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Post Post #589  (isolation #100)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:05 pm

In post 571, -Grey- wrote:
In post 570, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 565, -Grey- wrote:
In post 563, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 560, -Grey- wrote:
In post 522, Pepchoninga wrote:Lol, I can't follow what you wanna say. Cuz it makes zero sence really.


If you're going to insult somebody's intelligence... spell check.

I wasn't insulting anybody really. I was just saying that the 2-3 posts that were discussed didn't make sence and were contradicting themselves.

Also you are one to talk about insulting...


Also, you still need to spell check. Lol.

Cmon, English is not my first language and I still belive my spelling is pretty good compared to other people like me.


I think you're doing excellent for ESL.

Sense is not spelled with a c. :D

Thats what she said :P

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Post Post #590  (isolation #101)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:06 pm

In post 573, RadiantCowbells wrote:
And no, don't take me wrong, it's just that since I have huge respect for females and sometimes it really bugs me off when I have to read them in a game like that.

?

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Post Post #591  (isolation #102)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:07 pm

In post 574, -Grey- wrote:Alisae, you are amazingly awesome at this game and I would like to sheep all your votes for a record-breakingly fast town win, however the fact that my doing so would cause you to scumread me and in effect cause a mislynch forces me to vote suboptimally in order to survive.

I do, however, have an idea to solve the problem. If you vote the scum, and then unvote, everyone else can lynch the scum without sheeping your amazing vote.

Sound like a plan?!

Uhhhhh, sarcasm too much?

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Post Post #599  (isolation #103)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:53 pm

In post 593, Anotora wrote:So, from my understanding, Pepcho voted for Srceenplay in RVS, kept the vote there for about fifteen pages, removed it "because my RVS vote seems to be causing so much trouble", and then just REVOTED Srceenplay for no additional reason because now he's under pressure to make a case.

...And people think my contribution is worse than his?

Ugh, no. I kept my RVS vote, because I saw no need to remove it. Then I removed it to show people that I'm not gonna sit and do nothing as I was accused. And then Screenplay started playing like that and since he was one of my top scum targets from before I put a pressure lynch on him. This does not seem to bother him, so it is just making me more confident in the lynch.

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Post Post #603  (isolation #104)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:55 pm

In post 596, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why do you dislike it Alisae?

UNVOTE:

What made you unvote tho. Seems like a strange action, especially just after Alis put Ano at L-1.

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Post Post #606  (isolation #105)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:56 pm

In post 602, Srceenplay wrote:Pep. I am TOWN

You haven't done anything to prove that.

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Post Post #609  (isolation #106)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:57 pm

Srceenplay please give us reads or opinions. Or why you think Ano shouldn't be lynched.

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Post Post #610  (isolation #107)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:58 pm

In post 608, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 605, -Grey- wrote:
In post 604, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 601, -Grey- wrote:^ can we lynch this now?

Nope


I was asking the adults.

Sorry.

Now who can answer?

Somebody that is willing to write a sentence with more then 4-5 words in it. >.<

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Post Post #611  (isolation #108)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:59 pm

In post 607, Anotora wrote:
In post 601, -Grey- wrote:^ can we lynch this now?


Ideally not before squeezing some useful D1 thoughts out of Obvious Alt, mlmooney, and Keyen.

I kinda agree with that. Tho I think either Ano or Srceenplay should be our lynch this day.

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Post Post #615  (isolation #109)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:04 pm

In post 614, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 611, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 607, Anotora wrote:
In post 601, -Grey- wrote:^ can we lynch this now?


Ideally not before squeezing some useful D1 thoughts out of Obvious Alt, mlmooney, and Keyen.

I kinda agree with that. Tho I think either Ano or Srceenplay should be our lynch this day.

I hope to change your opinion on me.

Only way to make me consider this is to show real participation during the rest of the day. Give reads and opinions on the current situation. That is the only way.

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Post Post #617  (isolation #110)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:05 pm

In post 613, Anotora wrote:Pepcho, you do realize that you and srceenplay are screwed after I flip town, right?

Why is that?

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Post Post #620  (isolation #111)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:08 pm

In post 616, Srceenplay wrote:If me talking how you want me to is the only thing keeping you from solving the game. We all are going to have problems.

Posts like that is why I voted for you.

I don't want you to play like I want you to. I want you TO ACTUALLY play. What you are doing is just annoying us. And it seems to be your gameplan. You are not cooperating in any way, nor do you actually try to help the game.

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Post Post #626  (isolation #112)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:49 pm

In post 623, Anotora wrote:Throughout this entire game, Pepcho has only rarely voted in accord with his own scumreads. He's scummy.

I have rarely voted as a whole. But my two votes have both been on the same guy. One of my strongest scum reads. But honestly I think I would be more willing to go into day 2 with someone that actually wants to cooperate and help the discussion then someone like Srceenplay.

But still, you are one of my top scum targets. The day is still young I guess.

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Post Post #630  (isolation #113)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:52 pm

In post 627, Srceenplay wrote:My game play has been consistent all game.

You have consistently been doing nothing.

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Post Post #631  (isolation #114)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:59 pm

In post 624, mlmooney89 wrote:Alright here is how I work when I hafta catch up on a bunch of stuff. I write down notes as I go. My thoughts and opinions change as the notes go on but they are in chronological order so the ones at the bottom are current.

Firebringer (FB)- Claims miller. Early claim- day one. Possible real claim
RadiantCowbells(RC)- Counter claims; makes FB look scum
Grey- Tripping people up; then makes point about CC w/ vote
FrozenAngel (FA)- Points out things about the FB/RC for miller that go along with my own thoughts
Anotora- (Anot) Pointed out why RC being scum would have been bad for scum, this was called as scum by Grey.
Garmr claims both are town, becoming obvious that RC was joking.
Srceenplay (Screen) latched onto Garmr without doing anything.
Pepchoninga (Pep)- Standing up for Screen, says that we need pressure but we don’t need to lynch any time soon… well I’m not sure how that doesn’t say right away that pressure is no good since the lynch won’t happen. Worst way to pressure someone is to say but it’s a long day and let’s play this out… >.>

Anywho so my thoughts on a few people.

Anot gave reads which I was happy to see because even if scum it tells a lot about a person. I know a lot are voting here but I would place my vote somewhere safer.
Pep doesn’t seem to be on one solid path which makes me suspicious.
RC was giving pretty good explanations for game play which I would think scum would withhold so I’m leaning town.
FA seems like she is trying even is scattered with arguing, lean town.
FB is a LOT like one of my friends so I’m having a hard time separating him from what my friend would do. I do know my friend would be town if acting like that so since it is day one only I will stay town here.
Grey- I wouldn’t put anything past him. He is scum until proven innocent.
Screen- This is my vote all day long. I’ve dealt with town screen and this is a full 180. Until we get better co-operation (which I know sounds horrible coming from someone who hasn’t been around but oh well) I’m going to vote here. When someone shows such a huge change in game play without giving reasons as to why it’s a red flag for me.

VOTE: Srceenplay

Now, just to clear my words. What I say is that I see a lust for a fast lynch in some people. That doesn't necessarily make them scum, but going for not well though lynch increases the chance of a misslynch. Pressure is made to force reactions which inturn help you to get a good case. And you should not feel rushed to do that. That is what I'm saying. If there is someone who does give a lot of food to fead upon and people have come to a consensus then by all means a lynch could happen earlier. It's just we have time and we should be able to use it as we wish without necessarily making us look scummy.

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Post Post #633  (isolation #115)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:07 pm

In post 632, mlmooney89 wrote:If I didn't mention you it's due to null reasons.

kentofan5- Has this person checked in? I honestly don't remember anything from/about them
Obvious Alt- Don't recall anything specific here except how they are now playing the game on gut if I'm not mixing people up
Alisae- Good convo but that doesn't mean much doesn't look town or scum yet
Garmr- I was back and forth here; looks scum, then felt town... couldn't get one way or the other so has to be null
keyenpeydee- null, new to this game like I am, still trying to jump in.

kentofan5 doesn't have a post I think. Should get prodded soon.

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Post Post #636  (isolation #116)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:18 pm

In post 634, mlmooney89 wrote:
In post 631, Pepchoninga wrote:Now, just to clear my words. What I say is that I see a lust for a fast lynch in some people. That doesn't necessarily make them scum, but going for not well though lynch increases the chance of a misslynch. Pressure is made to force reactions which inturn help you to get a good case. And you should not feel rushed to do that. That is what I'm saying. If there is someone who does give a lot of food to fead upon and people have come to a consensus then by all means a lynch could happen earlier. It's just we have time and we should be able to use it as we wish without necessarily making us look scummy.


Still takes away the effect by TELLING scum that we want to review every wagon before we lynch. If they think they have time to move the wagon they won't be pressured at all.

That's a good point, but really if we rush everything and go after the first thing that looks scummy enough it is much easier for scum to trick clown. If you go into a discussion and pursue the situation, even if scum changes the wagon you will have enough time to spot to player that is causing this to happen. In the end it is all a matter of who is more patient and who has the better nerves.

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Post Post #639  (isolation #117)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 6:27 pm

In post 637, mlmooney89 wrote:
In post 636, Pepchoninga wrote:That's a good point, but really if we rush everything and go after the first thing that looks scummy enough it is much easier for scum to trick clown. If you go into a discussion and pursue the situation, even if scum changes the wagon you will have enough time to spot to player that is causing this to happen. In the end it is all a matter of who is more patient and who has the better nerves.


I reckon... I don't usually like giving scum my intentions nor giving them time to think about their answers. I want honest reactions. That is done by scaring them. But that's just theory on the game. Anywho... I won't tie up the thread with theory. Those were just my notes and they are all opinions. I'm not calling you out on it.

I know. I'm just trying to have a good conversation. What is beautiful about mafia is that you don't have to play a certain way to win imo. In the end you understand wether your approach was right or wrong.

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Post Post #691  (isolation #118)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:06 am

Honestly, claiming wouldn't really make that big of a difference. I don't really belive in claims, because no sane mafia will admit they are mafia and you can never be sure if we are going to belive you or not. So why not, try it. Mafia already knows your alignment.

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Post Post #692  (isolation #119)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:12 am

In post 690, Anotora wrote:So, guys, here's my case for why lynching me today is a bad idea:

- Whether I flip scum or town (hint: I will flip town), mine is a relatively low-information lynch compared to the info you would be getting from lynching Pepcho or Srceenplay. I really haven't engaged much yet directly with people like Frozen Angel and RadiantCowbells, but if you learn something from Pepcho's flip, you end up learning something about pretty much every other player in the game except kentofan. And if Srceenplay winds up being scum, which is very likely, then you will learn a *heck of a lot* based on who was willing to defend his scummy activity and who wasn't. To be explicit about it, if Srceenplay flips scum, we can pretty much proceed to wagon Pepcho D2 unless/until new information comes up.

- I am an active poster, and that alone makes me worth keeping around. At least I don't try to obstruct others from reading me the way Srceenplay has the whole game (and Pepcho has done on occasion with meaningless posts). I'd much rather the town doesn't carry dead weight like Srceenplay on its back. Even if I'm scum, which I'm not, wouldn't you rather have me be an obvious suspect later on, than be stuck with Srceenplay or Pepcho clouding the waters?

- Pepcho and Srceenplay are, in fact, scummier than I am. Maybe I still have a long way to go, convincing people of this, but it's true. All game long, Srceenplay's posts have been just terrible, and he's only improved them in hopes of warding off his newfound wagon. Pepcho's gameplay, to me, absolutely screams out bussing. Peeps like Garmr and Grey have been on my case for what feels like the lion's share of the day now, but my posting has wavered little. You can't say that about either of them, and it's really suspicious.

I realize this post might make it sound like I favor a Srceenplay lynch moreso than a Pepcho lynch. That isn't true. I think Pepcho is a lot worse than Srceenplay because Pepcho has gone out of his way to defend another scummy player, while the reverse is not true. But it seems like the rest of the playerlist sees Srceenplay as the main alternative to lynching me. I'm okay with that, though not thrilled.

You know here is another example of the saying - "Long post are not always better"

You basically just repeated how me and Srceenplay are scummy in 4 paragraphs without giving any good reasoning. I don't see your evidence, your quotes. As a whole I just see a try to make people belive in the same theory you have presented without any real evidence. And please stop says I defended someone I've had my lynch pn for almost the entire game and have persued to be scum in the past couple pages. It just doesn't fit in.

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Post Post #693  (isolation #120)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:13 am

In post 663, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Antora

Cheesecake.

In post 674, RadiantCowbells wrote:UNVOTE:

Ummm, no this isn't strange at all, even tho it's done for the second time without any explanation.

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Post Post #696  (isolation #121)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:27 am

In post 694, -Grey- wrote:{-Grey-}
{RadiantCowbells, Garmr}
{Frozen Angel, Firebringer}
{Obvious Alt, mlmooney89, kentofan}
{Srceenplay, KNPD, Alisae}
{Anotora, PeptoNinja}

I would suspect those are your reads?

Why me as a scum tho? Also why do you put RC and FA as town? (At least that is What I suspect)

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Post Post #698  (isolation #122)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:29 am

In post 695, Anotora wrote:Pepcho, I still feel comfortable reading your post #289 as a defense of your pal, and I hope everyone else takes a look at it, too.

You're right to demand an explanation from RC about the vote/unvote thing, though.

Please call me Pep, it will make your life easier :P

But really, if you read it that way you are misunderstanding what I said and quite frankly that means you are reading my posts wrong, so this makes your argument invalid. And you still wanting to read it in your own way just shows how little you actually have against your top scum targets.

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Post Post #701  (isolation #123)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:36 am

In post 699, Anotora wrote:You don't get to decide how your posts are read by others, Pep. That's kind of the point of the game.

Yes I do, when you are completely shifting there meaning. This is common tactic of scum. You are shifting my comment so they can apeal to your cause when I've explained multiple times the meaning of that post.

So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?

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Post Post #702  (isolation #124)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:36 am

In post 700, -Grey- wrote:
In post 696, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 694, -Grey- wrote:{-Grey-}
{RadiantCowbells, Garmr}
{Frozen Angel, Firebringer}
{Obvious Alt, mlmooney89, kentofan}
{Srceenplay, KNPD, Alisae}
{Anotora, PeptoNinja}

I would suspect those are your reads?

Moo.

Answer my question!

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Post Post #705  (isolation #125)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:42 am

In post 703, -Grey- wrote:Ano, don't claim.

This should help you not claim:

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

And what exactly made you do that?

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Post Post #708  (isolation #126)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:47 am

In post 601, -Grey- wrote:^ can we lynch this now?

How do you go from this

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Post Post #709  (isolation #127)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:48 am

In post 704, -Grey- wrote:{-Grey-}
{RadiantCowbells, Garmr}
{Frozen Angel, Firebringer}
{Obvious Alt, mlmooney89, kentofan, Anotora}
{Srceenplay, Alisae}
{KNPD, PeptoNinja}

To this in a matter of a couple of pages.

That is really strange, suspicious and inconsistent.

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Post Post #710  (isolation #128)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:49 am

In post 707, -Grey- wrote:
In post 705, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 703, -Grey- wrote:Ano, don't claim.

This should help you not claim:

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

And what exactly made you do that?


I'm obviously scum hates backing my buddies into a fakeclaim.

Yeah sarcasm isn't doing anything atm. I just asked for answers regarding your reads. You didn't give them, that is strange. Then you change them all of a sudden and lynch me. That is strange. You put one of your top scum to null in a couple of minutes. That is very strange and inconsistent.

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Post Post #713  (isolation #129)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:52 am

In post 706, Anotora wrote:
In post 701, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 699, Anotora wrote:You don't get to decide how your posts are read by others, Pep. That's kind of the point of the game.

Yes I do, when you are completely shifting there meaning. This is common tactic of scum. You are shifting my comment so they can apeal to your cause when I've explained multiple times the meaning of that post.

So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?


Rolefishers gonna rolefish, lol

I'm not role fishing. But you are trying to make me look bad with ONE quote. You don't have a good case on me and you don't seem in the slightest to be interested in digging up one. Also lets not forget your contradict way of reading the way and not having any real arguments against any of your case. You seem to be trying to look active by making big post where you just say how people look more scummy then you.

UNVOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: Anotora

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Post Post #715  (isolation #130)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:54 am

In post 712, -Grey- wrote:
In post 710, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 707, -Grey- wrote:
In post 705, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 703, -Grey- wrote:Ano, don't claim.

This should help you not claim:

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

And what exactly made you do that?


I'm obviously scum hates backing my buddies into a fakeclaim.

Yeah sarcasm isn't doing anything atm. I just asked for answers regarding your reads. You didn't give them, that is strange. Then you change them all of a sudden and lynch me. That is strange. You put one of your top scum to null in a couple of minutes. That is very strange and inconsistent.


I bet it burns your chaps that you just can't get me lynched despite how weird my play is.

Why would I like to lynch you actually. I'm just saying HOW werid it is. If you explain it everything will change. And even if I want to lynch you it will be harder when you actually explain your actions.

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Post Post #718  (isolation #131)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:57 am

In post 714, -Grey- wrote:
In post 711, Anotora wrote:I think what happened is -Grey- realized his Alisae scumread only makes sense in a context where Alisae and I are not a scumteam.


Wrong.

In post 689, -Grey- wrote:
In post 688, Anotora wrote:I can hardly believe I'm saying this, but Srceenplay is right and Alisae is wrong in this claiming argument. Town has nothing to gain from me claiming, but scum would be happy to see me do it.


Congratulations, you just softed PR and painted a target on your forehead.

The only reason you shouldn't claim now is if you're actually VT.


This post was made to WIFOM scum of Anita refused to claim.

Anotora's refusal to claim after I made this post told me that they got the point I made.

Pepto Ninja's pressuring to claim is scummy as shit because he wants that WIFOM cleared up.

Wrong. I don't really care if he claims. Because I don't belive that claims really make that big of a difference. As I said scum will never say they are scum, so there is a 99% chance he is going to claim town. This doesn't explain his behavior. If anything if he claims it will seem more that he would like to cooperate. Combine this with him actually making a case on somebody and yes, he might escape the lynch. Him refusing to acknowledge people asking him to reveal his role just seems more scummy.

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Post Post #719  (isolation #132)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:58 am

In post 717, -Grey- wrote:
In post 715, Pepchoninga wrote:If you explain it everything will change. And even if I want to lynch you it will be harder when you actually explain your actions.


Precisely, show everyone how cautious you are in your interactions with me.

You trying to turn my words against me?

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Post Post #722  (isolation #133)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:04 am

In post 720, Anotora wrote:
In post 718, Pepchoninga wrote:If anything if he claims it will seem more that he would like to cooperate. Combine this with him actually making a case on somebody and yes, he might escape the lynch. Him refusing to acknowledge people asking him to reveal his role just seems more scummy.


Do you expect town to actually believe these lines?

Why not? Would they belive you saying that I'm scummier then you because...reasons?

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Post Post #723  (isolation #134)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:05 am

In post 721, -Grey- wrote:
In post 718, Pepchoninga wrote:Wrong. I don't really care if he claims.

In post 701, Pepchoninga wrote:So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?


Clearly.

Yes I'm asking him would he. To see his reaction. I'm telling him to do it like Alisae.

And I've explained what him refusing to reveal and him doing it would do imo.

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Post Post #728  (isolation #135)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:37 am

In post 724, -Grey- wrote:
In post 723, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 721, -Grey- wrote:
In post 718, Pepchoninga wrote:Wrong. I don't really care if he claims.

In post 701, Pepchoninga wrote:So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?


Clearly.

Yes I'm asking him would he. To see his reaction. I'm telling him to do it like Alisae.

And I've explained what him refusing to reveal and him doing it would do imo.


In post 689, -Grey- wrote:
In post 688, Anotora wrote:I can hardly believe I'm saying this, but Srceenplay is right and Alisae is wrong in this claiming argument. Town has nothing to gain from me claiming, but scum would be happy to see me do it.


Congratulations, you just softed PR and painted a target on your forehead.

The only reason you shouldn't claim now is if you're actually VT.


There is zero town motivation in continuing to pressure for a claim after this post.

Well, if this is your reason to lynch me and put Ano as null it is pretty laugable. But really I didn't understand your post the way it was meant to be.

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Post Post #730  (isolation #136)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:41 am

In post 726, Anotora wrote:
In post 713, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 706, Anotora wrote:
In post 701, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 699, Anotora wrote:You don't get to decide how your posts are read by others, Pep. That's kind of the point of the game.

Yes I do, when you are completely shifting there meaning. This is common tactic of scum. You are shifting my comment so they can apeal to your cause when I've explained multiple times the meaning of that post.

So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?


Rolefishers gonna rolefish, lol

I'm not role fishing. But you are trying to make me look bad with ONE quote. You don't have a good case on me and you don't seem in the slightest to be interested in digging up one. Also lets not forget your contradict way of reading the way and not having any real arguments against any of your case. You seem to be trying to look active by making big post where you just say how people look more scummy then you.

UNVOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: Anotora


This is thinly veiled OMGUS btw

Nope it would be OMGUS if I just blindly voted you. I just find your recent posts to be more and more scummy and with an actual case on you I feel good lynching you.

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Post Post #731  (isolation #137)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:42 am

In post 727, Anotora wrote:I think Pepcho is mad at me for re-rousing -Grey-'s suspicion of him. Hah.

(Sorry for the triple post.)

Ummm, going too cocky after you got some support? You seem to have grown more confident but nothing more.

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Post Post #761  (isolation #138)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:19 am

In post 760, Alisae wrote:
In post 713, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 706, Anotora wrote:
In post 701, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 699, Anotora wrote:You don't get to decide how your posts are read by others, Pep. That's kind of the point of the game.

Yes I do, when you are completely shifting there meaning. This is common tactic of scum. You are shifting my comment so they can apeal to your cause when I've explained multiple times the meaning of that post.

So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?


Rolefishers gonna rolefish, lol

I'm not role fishing. But you are trying to make me look bad with ONE quote. You don't have a good case on me and you don't seem in the slightest to be interested in digging up one. Also lets not forget your contradict way of reading the way and not having any real arguments against any of your case. You seem to be trying to look active by making big post where you just say how people look more scummy then you.

UNVOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: Anotora
You've been looking bad this whole game as well.
VOTE: Pep

Yeah sure, I'm always playing bad, and you are always godly.

Give reasons for your vote

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Post Post #762  (isolation #139)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:20 am

In post 753, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 737, Garmr wrote:
In post 703, -Grey- wrote:Ano, don't claim.

This should help you not claim:

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

I honestly think anno should claim that way we can get it lynching him over and done with. If he claims vt his pretty much wasted everyone's time and shown that his more interested in surviving than helping town. If he claims power role he either gets counter claimed or goes through the night phase. If he ends up dead then his town if he doesn't we discuss from there.

Don't agree

UNVOTE:

Why?

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Post Post #763  (isolation #140)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:21 am

In post 741, -Grey- wrote:
In post 737, Garmr wrote:
In post 703, -Grey- wrote:Ano, don't claim.

This should help you not claim:

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

I honestly think anno should claim that way we can get it lynching him over and done with. If he claims vt his pretty much wasted everyone's time and shown that his more interested in surviving than helping town. If he claims power role he either gets counter claimed or goes through the night phase. If he ends up dead then his town if he doesn't we discuss from there.


Nope, I'm not lynching Ano today.

Pepto Ninja is a much better vote.

Same question - why?

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Post Post #810  (isolation #141)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:11 pm

In post 804, -Grey- wrote:*chants*

Needs more Pep votes
Needs more Pep votes
Needs more Pep votes
Needs more Pep votes

You know that trying to get people to vote me like that is stupid.

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Post Post #834  (isolation #142)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:32 pm

In post 813, -Grey- wrote:
In post 811, Frozen Angel wrote:His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.


Lie #4

I'm the one that stopped the momentum against Anotora.
There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

She's desperate to discredit me because I'm pushing her buddy.

Kinda don't have much time to read everything with thought, but I saw this.

No, I don't think she is lying. Your votes are really based on general view. You don't really search for any good evidence in the behavior of people you just kinda lynch them out of nowhere. You change reads every page without really saying why. Honestly your inconsistencies has now started to double and this is never good for something that is thinking of himself as a town.

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Post Post #836  (isolation #143)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:33 pm

In post 833, RadiantCowbells wrote:Chainsaw on who? Pepcho? where?

Care to actually explain your vote? Your been lurking a bit recently.

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Post Post #838  (isolation #144)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:35 pm

In post 828, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 822, Anotora wrote:That's a scummy explanation when it comes from someone who almost always uses preview-edits.


what the hell are you talking about? I wasn't online at all when he unvoted first. I skimmed the not read pages which was the same reason I mistkaed about the first crap he calls a lie as well and I saw RC unvoting again - so I assumed when pacho pushed for a claim on you you were at L1 naturally.

how is preview-edit related to this at all?

I didn't push for a claim. I asked if he would do one. He was L-1 in and out and I don't know why anybody isn't talking about the inconsistent voting of RC.

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Post Post #844  (isolation #145)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:38 pm

In post 813, -Grey- wrote:
In post 811, Frozen Angel wrote:His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.


Lie #4

I'm the one that stopped the momentum against Anotora.
There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

She's desperate to discredit me because I'm pushing her buddy.

Yes, you basically stopped a L-1 lynch from happening on the basis of like what? Seems like a scum trying to defend his buddy.

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Post Post #846  (isolation #146)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:39 pm

In post 841, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 837, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 833, RadiantCowbells wrote:Chainsaw on who? Pepcho? where?


RC are you reading my posts?

why are you ignoring me?


I am reading your posts but I don't want to lynch you today despite your complete conformity to your scum meta because I don't want to lynch you today.

This post...

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Post Post #851  (isolation #147)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:41 pm

In post 845, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be slightly lurking until tomorrow because I have things to do today.

Tomorrow I'll read everything and get a clearer picture of what's going on.

Ok, just answer me one thing.

Have you been busy all of the days? Cuz you have been inconsistent in your votes and let's not say you haven't really done anything.

You voted Ano 2 times and then unvoted him in the span of a page or max 2 without reason for either. Then you vote me saying it's a better wagon. You seem opportunistic.

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Post Post #855  (isolation #148)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:43 pm

In post 849, Frozen Angel wrote:and don't feel bad RC

I know this is just a game. but impossible is impossible.

I can't handle this anymore.

Cmon now, get yourself together. Nobody means nothing bad, it's just some people have somewhat annoying personalities. But this is why this game is difficult you have to go trough all this and keep playing and pushing for your cause and win condition.

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Post Post #857  (isolation #149)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:45 pm

In post 853, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 848, RadiantCowbells wrote:IE, I lynched FA in steven universe when I was confident she was scum and hated the rest of the game. FA lives for today at least.


I'm not sum here.

I'm 1 shot town rolestopper and I was planning to not use it - at least tonight. the coockie was reffering to this and I said I have only one but I don't like to give it to fire.

there you go that's my claim. bye

Ummm, honestly, I want to belive her, but it does sound a little forced.

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Post Post #861  (isolation #150)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:48 pm

In post 856, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 851, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 845, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be slightly lurking until tomorrow because I have things to do today.

Tomorrow I'll read everything and get a clearer picture of what's going on.

Ok, just answer me one thing.

Have you been busy all of the days? Cuz you have been inconsistent in your votes and let's not say you haven't really done anything.

You voted Ano 2 times and then unvoted him in the span of a page or max 2 without reason for either. Then you vote me saying it's a better wagon. You seem opportunistic.


I'm so opportunistic that I've ignored the potential for an FA wagon when if I was scum:

1) If she was town, I'd hate to spend the game trying to fool her and deal with her emotional reactions so I'd rather lynch her early.
2) If she was scum with me, I've never actually bussed FA, which I've wanted to, and there's a strong enough townbloc this game to get away with doing so.

Further, I unvoted you before Gray, when you were at l-1, then even took the time to double check it. And I don't play opportunistically as scum either.

That seems like some good WIFOM on FA. Yes you didn't answer the situation I was calling you out for.

Also, wether you do or not is not something a "I don't play like that" will really change. For now you seem to hop on safer wagons without giving anything or contributing with anything for the wagon.

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Post Post #864  (isolation #151)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:50 pm

In post 862, -Grey- wrote:
In post 860, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 858, -Grey- wrote:The more Pepto tires to discredit Moocow, the more I townread him.


Please tell me this is sarcasm.


Him meaning you, not Pepto.

You also ignore what I had to say about you.

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Post Post #872  (isolation #152)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:55 pm

In post 863, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 851, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 845, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be slightly lurking until tomorrow because I have things to do today.

Tomorrow I'll read everything and get a clearer picture of what's going on.

Ok, just answer me one thing.

Have you been busy all of the days? Cuz you have been inconsistent in your votes and let's not say you haven't really done anything.

You voted Ano 2 times and then unvoted him in the span of a page or max 2 without reason for either. Then you vote me saying it's a better wagon. You seem opportunistic.


That's funny because I think it's incredibly consistent. I'm wavering on my Ano vote so I jump to another wagon and say it's better. Bam, perfectly logical.

It probably would be, if you had given explanation on why you think it's logical.

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Post Post #873  (isolation #153)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:56 pm

In post 866, -Grey- wrote:
In post 864, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 862, -Grey- wrote:
In post 860, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 858, -Grey- wrote:The more Pepto tires to discredit Moocow, the more I townread him.


Please tell me this is sarcasm.


Him meaning you, not Pepto.

You also ignore what I had to say about you.


You are absolutely correct.

And why would you ignore me?

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Post Post #874  (isolation #154)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 871, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ano might still be town but I would be absolutely shocked if Pepcho's current page is anything besides scum flail.

FA, I'm perfectly open to reconsidering and I have done so several times in the past. Remember the game with the east side and west side neighbourhoods?

Just keep playing the game and if you're town I'm confident I will figure it out at some point.

Huh? So me wanting answer on a shady decision and actually giving argument and quotes to back my accusations is a scum fail?

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Post Post #876  (isolation #155)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 865, Garmr wrote:I think saying because anor l-2 they weren't in a postion to claim is a noobish conjuncture. Rc took the vote off i suspect to prevent derp hammers. So any one saying but it's l-2 being completely an utterly noobish.

That being said there pepo With his recent activity i can see him being scum.


pedit"Fa that's a stupid thing to role claim. Beside that role makes me think your scum. What utility would a 1 shot town rolestopper have as town.

Me being active makes me scum? Or what I have said makes me scum. Could you elaborate?

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Post Post #887  (isolation #156)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:15 pm

In post 885, mlmooney89 wrote:And see this is where my scum thoughts are coming up again on Grey. Bullying FA, (I'm not saying she is or isn't town I'm saying you are not playing mafia Grey you are bullying) and the whole chanting in three posts about telling us to change our votes to his vote? Childish. I really want to change my vote to him now but hell he could just be a jerk and pretty anti-town.

And what do you think about his inconsistent change in reads?

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Post Post #888  (isolation #157)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:16 pm

In post 886, Frozen Angel wrote:this is not an amotional break down.

I've never been clamer ever. I'm thinking clearly. I changed my read about you cause my points weren't matching after our discussion. did you miss that garmr? and no I didnt try to justify it and I never cried to anyone - before our interction I asked for pressure to have that intercation with you.

I had not even a single inconsistancy and not even a single scummy thing and I'm not scum. Don't be pissed off. My lynch is better for you all. Let me go so you have a less mislycnh bait in later days. at this rate I will just cause the town loose and my existance is harming the town. - my points about grey all are accurate and definite, after my green flip please check him out -.

Even tho, I agre with you on Grey in most parts, you are really making this into a soap opera...

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Post Post #903  (isolation #158)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:38 pm

In post 900, Frozen Angel wrote:No worries! I'm voting myself instead of you.

ask others to do the rest.

This is getting quite annoying tbh.

Please play and just leave the past argument in the past. I rhink what Ano said was resonanle. You should take a break from the game and come back fresh.

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Post Post #904  (isolation #159)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:39 pm

In post 902, -Grey- wrote:All the AtE in the world isn't going to disrupt the Pepto Lynch.

You'll get your votes on d2, sweetie.

Why are you so sure. And I really dislike your attitude. Being nicer wouldn't cost you much.

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Post Post #907  (isolation #160)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:42 pm

In post 906, Frozen Angel wrote:I won't be mislynched in any day after this.

so get your fucking votes on my wagon now.

Can't you just ask for a replacement?

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Post Post #909  (isolation #161)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:44 pm

In post 908, Frozen Angel wrote:No I can't

Why is that?

You are kinda starting to ruin the experience. The more you ask to get lynched the more you wont be.

Why don't you instead focus your determination on getting you targets lynched?

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Post Post #910  (isolation #162)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:44 pm

Edit: getting your targets lynched

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Post Post #1050  (isolation #163)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:32 am

In post 939, -Grey- wrote:
In post 937, Frozen Angel wrote:If I'm going to get mislynched anyway, its better to be on me to remove the wifom on me and actually make others to see my points about you.


You aren't the lynch today. Pepto is.

All the kicking and screaming in the world isn't going to change that as long as you are voting for yourself.

Your only shot at saving your buddy is to come at me head on.

Who the fuck made you decide who is the lynch. I'm disgusted at how y'all dodge everything trown at you even tho I have made actual points against some of you.

What I get tho is a lynch? Seems quite strange. Grey has started a weak wagon and doesn't even care to answer my questions against him or make a case that will make his lynch more justified. Maybe if you had a case you wouldn't need to continuesly spam people.

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Post Post #1052  (isolation #164)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:34 am

In post 912, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I am up to page 33, ill be done soon.

In post 813, -Grey- wrote:
In post 811, Frozen Angel wrote:His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.

There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

In post 816, -Grey- wrote:
In post 814, Anotora wrote:
In post 805, Frozen Angel wrote:
why misunderstanding and remembering events in a wrong order - when there was a reason for remembering them in wrong order (RC unvoted agian later which made me think anoto was L1 when pap asked for claim) is scummy?


But I dropped back to L2 waaayyy before Pep tried to make me claim. There should have been no confusion.


She's scum misrepresenting events. End of story.


Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today

VOTE: Grey

Totally agree ^^

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Post Post #1054  (isolation #165)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:36 am

In post 1051, Frozen Angel wrote:I have a scum lean on you based on the fact you said you asking anotora to claim was a reaction test.

what that test told you pep?

That test confirmed nothing. Ano became pretty cocky after -Grey- lynched me. He seems kinda sure he won't get lynched so he didn't see the need to reply to my question. Unfortunately I cannot read this as anything but scum.

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Post Post #1055  (isolation #166)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:37 am

In post 1053, Alisae wrote:
In post 1052, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 912, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I am up to page 33, ill be done soon.

In post 813, -Grey- wrote:
In post 811, Frozen Angel wrote:His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.

There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

In post 816, -Grey- wrote:
In post 814, Anotora wrote:
In post 805, Frozen Angel wrote:
why misunderstanding and remembering events in a wrong order - when there was a reason for remembering them in wrong order (RC unvoted agian later which made me think anoto was L1 when pap asked for claim) is scummy?


But I dropped back to L2 waaayyy before Pep tried to make me claim. There should have been no confusion.


She's scum misrepresenting events. End of story.


Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today

VOTE: Grey

Totally agree ^^
Totally not scumbuddies.

How is agreeing with somebody who made some good points on a person that I have made too make me scum buddies?

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Post Post #1059  (isolation #167)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:39 am

In post 916, Garmr wrote:
In post 912, Secret Agent Jin wrote:I am up to page 33, ill be done soon.

In post 813, -Grey- wrote:
In post 811, Frozen Angel wrote:His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.

There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

In post 816, -Grey- wrote:
In post 814, Anotora wrote:
In post 805, Frozen Angel wrote:
why misunderstanding and remembering events in a wrong order - when there was a reason for remembering them in wrong order (RC unvoted agian later which made me think anoto was L1 when pap asked for claim) is scummy?


But I dropped back to L2 waaayyy before Pep tried to make me claim. There should have been no confusion.


She's scum misrepresenting events. End of story.


Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today

VOTE: Grey

Super bad post bad logic ect. You got the read thing wrong. There is no general consensus that fa is scum while he personally thinks she is scum that is a misrep.

All Frey was doing in the Angel situation was provoking her. Regardless of his intentions or believes this is a very dickish move and definetely not townie like.

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Post Post #1063  (isolation #168)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:41 am

In post 958, -Grey- wrote:
In post 954, Firebringer wrote:
In post 952, -Grey- wrote:
In post 951, Firebringer wrote:Hey guys, how's life?


Vote Pepto!

Why?


Because he's scum ofc.

I love how you are soooo sure.

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Post Post #1066  (isolation #169)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:44 am

Sooo, I'm at L-1. Mostly I'm irritated since I can't defend myself when there isn't anything to defend against exept blind votes just because Grey said to vote me.

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Post Post #1069  (isolation #170)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:48 am

In post 1067, Anotora wrote:That's L-1, I'm pretty sure? Just throwing that out there for everyone's benefit.

Back home to make a SAJ read and updated RC/FA reads in a few minutes.

Yes, I pointed that out.

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Post Post #1070  (isolation #171)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:48 am

In post 1068, Frozen Angel wrote:VOTE: secret agent Jin

that post was so bad ... So bad

Pep answer my questions

Sure, can you just put them up again, since I got pretty lost in the last couple of pages.

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Post Post #1075  (isolation #172)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:59 am

In post 1072, Alisae wrote:
In post 1066, Pepchoninga wrote:Sooo, I'm at L-1. Mostly I'm irritated since I can't defend myself when there isn't anything to defend against exept blind votes just because Grey said to vote me.
I'm pretty sure if the positions were swapped you would say "Just read my posts."

You might be true. But I would be confident that I have made a case or a post with somethings to back my punches when I say that. If not I will make a case. Whatever alignment I am I be
Ive that you should be able to say why you dislike someone and think they are scum and actually make good ooints or at least attempt to.

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Post Post #1076  (isolation #173)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:00 am

In post 1071, Frozen Angel wrote:Their all in this page :/

Oh ok, I'm going to answer them now.

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Post Post #1077  (isolation #174)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:00 am

In post 1074, Frozen Angel wrote:Intent to hammer pep

Where are your answers

Please be patient

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Post Post #1080  (isolation #175)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:04 am

In post 1051, Frozen Angel wrote:I have a scum lean on you based on the fact you said you asking anotora to claim was a reaction test.

what that test told you pep?

Answered in the post below.
In post 1054, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1051, Frozen Angel wrote:I have a scum lean on you based on the fact you said you asking anotora to claim was a reaction test.

what that test told you pep?

That test confirmed nothing. Ano became pretty cocky after -Grey- lynched me. He seems kinda sure he won't get lynched so he didn't see the need to reply to my question. Unfortunately I cannot read this as anything but scum.

Here ^^
In post 1056, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1054, Pepchoninga wrote:He seems kinda sure he won't get lynched


what implied that?

what about Jin post is what you agree on? can you be more precise with your points?

Well he seemed irritated when he was at L-1 and nobody would really listen to him (I kinda can relate to that atm) and then suddenly Geey lynched me for reasons I still can't understand and all of a sudden Ano started being more calm like he was absolutely sure that he won't get lynched. He made some cocky remarks and this is something that is really suspicious to me.

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Post Post #1086  (isolation #176)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:07 am

In post 1079, Alisae wrote:
In post 1075, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1072, Alisae wrote:
In post 1066, Pepchoninga wrote:Sooo, I'm at L-1. Mostly I'm irritated since I can't defend myself when there isn't anything to defend against exept blind votes just because Grey said to vote me.
I'm pretty sure if the positions were swapped you would say "Just read my posts."

You might be true. But I would be confident that I have made a case or a post with somethings to back my punches when I say that. If not I will make a case. Whatever alignment I am I be
Ive that you should be able to say why you dislike someone and think they are scum and actually make good ooints or at least attempt to.
the bold is hilarious.
You're also a hypocrite.

How is it hilarious? I don't belive mafia should be played that way. Dodge, dodge, make cocky comments and video game remarks and then lynch somebody cuz why not. Also I have to look independent and confident so people will belive me. That's the vibes I got this day.

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Post Post #1087  (isolation #177)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:08 am

In post 1083, Anotora wrote:I am continually blown away at how Pepcho reads my refusal to claim as scummy.

I don't read your REFUSAL as a scum sign. I read your total refusal to aknowledge both mine and Alisae's comments about a claim and then after being very aggresuve before, become cocky and calm after you got the support of Grey.

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Post Post #1091  (isolation #178)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:10 am

In post 1084, Frozen Angel wrote:I knew you answered the first question cause I asked a question based on your answer. why you felt you had to remind me you answered it?

what remarks are you referring to? why you didn't quote them?

and where is your answer to my question about Jin?

Well, I was just making sure. I saw all of your questions towards me and I quoted them.

I don't get the remarks thing.

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Post Post #1095  (isolation #179)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:12 am

In post 1084, Frozen Angel wrote:I knew you answered the first question cause I asked a question based on your answer. why you felt you had to remind me you answered it?

what remarks are you referring to? why you didn't quote them?

and where is your answer to my question about Jin?

Sorry, forgot about it.

I with everything exect maybe the Angel argument.

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Post Post #1098  (isolation #180)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:13 am

In post 1092, Alisae wrote:the bolded is hilarious because most people automaticly assume they are town when they are talking about themselves.

I've never done that. I think when you talk about yourself you should talk as a neutral not put yourself as a town. This is just a way for me to play the game.

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Post Post #1101  (isolation #181)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:15 am

In post 1088, Alisae wrote:Pep at this point you might as well self-hammer and kill the convo if you're scum.

I won't hammer myself.

Tho I think if I'm getting lynched I deserve to hear your cases on me.

Also there are people who haven't cought up. I would also like to hear some of there opinions as well.

And would prefer to be kept at an L-1

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Post Post #1106  (isolation #182)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:20 am

In post 1099, Frozen Angel wrote:You said this about anotora "He made some cocky remarks and this is something that is really suspicious to me."

but you are not quoting any post supporting your case

and you are repetitively dodging to talk about Jin :|

pedit : I saw your response - let me put some posts together before going further with this

Get the whole sentence cuz I'm not feeling suspicious just because of the cocky remarks. And I will go search for a quote now if you want one so much.

I'm not dodging talking about Jin. There are just to many posts and find it hard to respond to everything. Tho I will not dodge question on purpose. Sk if I don't answer anything just hit me back with it.

About Jin I don't know what I could really talk about him. He has made very little posts. I agree with most of his things said for Grey since they are comming from thensame mindset as mine. That doesn't explain his obviously strange vote on me tho.

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Post Post #1108  (isolation #183)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:23 am

In post 1105, Anotora wrote:
In post 1101, Pepchoninga wrote:
And would prefer to be kept at an L-1


The town motivation for this, Pepcho??????

If you truly belive I'm scum I want to be kept at an L-1. But I also wanna be given a good chance to defend myself. I want cases against me and an opportunity to get a counter argument.

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Post Post #1110  (isolation #184)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:25 am

In post 1102, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 912, Secret Agent Jin wrote:Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today


This was SAj post you're saying you are agreeing with everything but maybe the angel thing which means the bolded right?

So you are saying you believe Grey is rude , hand waving that he is doing time after time and you believe he is pushing you for a lynch

so why you acted like you support SAJ vote when you practically are not agreeing with his justifications?

Ok, next post I'm putting my case against Grey. You can find the similarities between SAJs and mine since you are actually confusing me more then anything.

The only thing I don't really belive in is the last sentence. But really I just think he described Greys behavior very well.

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Post Post #1111  (isolation #185)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:26 am

In post 1109, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1106, Pepchoninga wrote:I'm not dodging talking about Jin. There are just to many posts and find it hard to respond to everything. Tho I will not dodge question on purpose. Sk if I don't answer anything just hit me back with it.

About Jin I don't know what I could really talk about him. He has made very little posts. I agree with most of his things said for Grey since they are comming from thensame mindset as mine. That doesn't explain his obviously strange vote on me tho.


The question about Jin was in the same post. You can't possibly answer to one question and miss another :|

I just missed it. I had the thought of answering it then, but just forgot. Why are you going over for that?

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Post Post #1120  (isolation #186)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:38 am

Now.

Firstly when I talk about -Grey- I need to express how much I dislike his behavior in the game regardless of his allotment. He is sometimes rude and even disrespectful. It's a thing that annoys some players and should be kept to a minimum imo. But this is besides the point.

First thing I find obviously suspicious is how inconsistent his read on the game has been till he latched on to me. He moved from null-town to null-scum all the time and overall didn't give any explanation for his actions.

The previous is further seen when he gives his reads. In the span of a couple of pages he changes them almost drastically and again WITHOUT explaining almost any of the changes made. This is inconsistent and strange.

Another thing is he is obviously very cocky and likes the use of sarcasm. This doesn't necessarily make someone look scim, but when you use it too much like in Grey's situation it's certainly fishy and annoying.

Let's not talk about his pretty disrespectful behavior in the argument against Frozen Angel. It seemed that he really just wanted to discourage her and provoke her. Wether she is town or scum it worked. And honestly Grey seemed to enjoy it. Again I saw traits in this segment that are not town like.

Lastly let's take a look at when he put my vote up. He apparently did it after I asked would Ano claim and if he would, will he. This would be ok, if he actually got on the make a bigger case after the lynch. When asked for one I got the same cocky remarks and more sarcasm. He purposely has ignored some of my questions and this has been confirmed by him (I will provide a quote if needed) and this again isn't town like. Why would he do that? Well in my mind I just see it as that he doesn't really have a good case on me on seems to not want to try and create one.

The vote he so desperately promotes to be lynched is one he can't or doesn't want to justify. This for me is disrespectful even. Even if you are right, whe. You lynch someone at least try to look convincing. But maybe you are. After you I'm at L-1 and only person that has tryid to get something from is someone who wasn't voted me yet.

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Post Post #1122  (isolation #187)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:40 am

With that being said I feel comfortable to do this.

UNVOTE: Anotora

VOTE: -Grey-

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Post Post #1124  (isolation #188)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:43 am

In post 1112, Frozen Angel wrote:Cause till now you were actually pretending that you think Grey is just a misguided town who is wrong,

and you suddenly have a secret case on him.

and SAJ vote on you was pure fake - I am really interested to know that if you're interest in his posts is as well or not.

I've don't belive I said Grey is misguided town. I said he has been a null going up and down till I actually got points that I have been pointing out in previous posts.

No, my interest in SAJ post isn't fake. I simply like the way he presented it and I think it is mostly right, so I said it. I See nothing wrong tbh.

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Post Post #1126  (isolation #189)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:45 am

[/quote]
Well he seemed irritated when he was at L-1 and nobody would really listen to him (I kinda can relate to that atm) and then suddenly Geey lynched me for reasons I still can't understand and all of a sudden Ano started being more calm like he was absolutely sure that he won't get lynched. He made some cocky remarks and this is something that is really suspicious to me.[/quote]

Ok Ano don't be a bitch and read the whole thing. That is why I'm suspicious.

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Post Post #1130  (isolation #190)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:50 am

In post 1125, Frozen Angel wrote:why you said expect maybe for Angel part?

when he tried to provoke me?

what about him using sarcasm or being rude is scummy?

SAJ mentioned "he is ignoring questions". whay you didn't talk about it when you shown intrest when its not in you're case?

why this case is presented now when its about actions that happened pages ago?

Because I disliked your behavior to a big extent in the conflict too. Especially the emotional ending. But I'm not going at you for that.

The whole thing really looked like a provocation. It's more of a feel then actual word. And honestly seeing how it all eneded it did look like a provocation even if it was not intentional that explains his way of thinking wich for me doesn't come from a towns mindset.

Well how is constant sarcasm cockiness and rudeness good for town if it's not scummy?

I did talk about him ignoring questions. Please reread the last two paragraphs. But he isn't only ignoring my question. He is constantly doing something, not explaining it and then not answering questions related to it KNOWINGLY.

so you think we shouldn't make a case on the post a person made 5-10 pages before? They were made yesterday, so I think they are still pretty fresh.

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Post Post #1132  (isolation #191)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:53 am

In post 1127, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1124, Pepchoninga wrote:I've don't belive I said Grey is misguided town. I said he has been a null going up and down till I actually got points that I have been pointing out in previous posts.

No, my interest in SAJ post isn't fake. I simply like the way he presented it and I think it is mostly right, so I said it. I See nothing wrong tbh.


But why

all the points you're mentioning are for pages ago. what changed?

What changed in what? Your questions are really confusing me sometimes.

But if you mean what got me to belive that grey is scummier and remove him from bei null? What he did in my lynch and later one in the way he handled to confrontation with you. I was already annoyed by his behavior, so there is a point that is being constant troughout the pages.

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Post Post #1133  (isolation #192)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:53 am

In post 1131, Alisae wrote:LOL FA towntold like a motherfucker.

What do you mean?

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Post Post #1143  (isolation #193)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:04 am

In post 1134, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1130, Pepchoninga wrote:Because I disliked your behavior to a big extent in the conflict too. Especially the emotional ending. But I'm not going at you for that.

The whole thing really looked like a provocation. It's more of a feel then actual word. And honestly seeing how it all eneded it did look like a provocation even if it was not intentional that explains his way of thinking wich for me doesn't come from a towns mindset.

Well how is constant sarcasm cockiness and rudeness good for town if it's not scummy?

I did talk about him ignoring questions. Please reread the last two paragraphs. But he isn't only ignoring my question. He is constantly doing something, not explaining it and then not answering questions related to it KNOWINGLY.

so you think we shouldn't make a case on the post a person made 5-10 pages before? They were made yesterday, so I think they are still pretty fresh.


he never said he liked my actions so why "expect for angel part" regarding his post? and just to clarify my actions were anything but emotional.

ok you assumed its about your questions.makes more sense now

I believe you can make a case on events of past. But when nothing is cahnegd since then why you're read is changed from null that was going up and down is suddenly is down like that? What triggered you're change of heart ? ...

Sorry, don't understand the first thing.

And I already told you why. Firstly his sudden lynch on me. I don't read him for lynching me, but for:
1: not giving a reasonable explanation for the lynch
2: ignoring the questions I had regarding the situation.
Another things that triggered me were his reads. As previously said he was changing them every couple of posts. Really strange. And then you add some of the other arguments I read from your argument with him and I have solid reasons to grow a SR on him.

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Post Post #1144  (isolation #194)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:05 am

In post 1142, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1141, Anotora wrote:I mean there's a strong possibility that SAJ only L-1'ed Pepcho in hopes of Pepcho getting hammered very soon, and the day ending very soon.


This is not just a possibility

He obviously voted to just end the day.

if its a buss or just a very anti-town approach is the question

Really it's hard to say wether he wanted to hammer me or lynch me faster or anything else. We don Have much from him.

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Post Post #1145  (isolation #195)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:06 am

In post 1140, Alisae wrote:FA that's the joke.

Why do you even do jokes on mafia so regularly? To mock people?

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Post Post #1146  (isolation #196)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:08 am

In post 1136, Anotora wrote:
In post 1126, Pepchoninga wrote:

Well he seemed irritated when he was at L-1 and nobody would really listen to him (I kinda can relate to that atm) and then suddenly Geey lynched me for reasons I still can't understand and all of a sudden Ano started being more calm like he was absolutely sure that he won't get lynched. He made some cocky remarks and this is something that is really suspicious to me.


Ok Ano don't be a bitch and read the whole thing. That is why I'm suspicious.[/quote]

I mean I guess that's an argument for me and -Grey- being a scumteam, if you had legit reasons to scumread me in the first place, before all this business.[/quote]
Well yes, I did. If you'd like to hear I will make a post about it. My opinion on you hasn't really changed. A scum partnership between you two is possible. Yes, this could be an argument for that, but I'm not acusing you of being scum buddies.

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Post Post #1150  (isolation #197)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:14 am

In post 1147, Anotora wrote:
In post 1144, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1142, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1141, Anotora wrote:I mean there's a strong possibility that SAJ only L-1'ed Pepcho in hopes of Pepcho getting hammered very soon, and the day ending very soon.


This is not just a possibility

He obviously voted to just end the day.

if its a buss or just a very anti-town approach is the question

Really it's hard to say wether he wanted to hammer me or lynch me faster or anything else. We don Have much from him.


Well, FA, since Pepcho is now defending SAJ's approach, I'm gonna go with bus rather than just anti-town.

Why do you always interpreted everything I say as defending? No, he made like 3 posts that contradicted with themselves. This is suspicious but until you actually get a respons on that from him, why make theories and say they are valid just because your top scum has said that.

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Post Post #1152  (isolation #198)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:15 am

In post 1148, Anotora wrote:
In post 1146, Pepchoninga wrote:
Anotora wrote:I mean I guess that's an argument for me and -Grey- being a scumteam, if you had legit reasons to scumread me in the first place, before all this business.

Well yes, I did. If you'd like to hear I will make a post about it. My opinion on you hasn't really changed. A scum partnership between you two is possible. Yes, this could be an argument for that, but I'm not acusing you of being scum buddies.

(quote bolded by myself)

The fact that you haven't already made a post about it says a lot about us both.

Ummm, I already made enough posts trying to justify my vote on you back when you were a hot topic. I aksed if you want one now. Because I have made one in the past.

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Post Post #1154  (isolation #199)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:17 am

In post 1151, Alisae wrote:
In post 1145, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1140, Alisae wrote:FA that's the joke.

Why do you even do jokes on mafia so regularly? To mock people?
You are going to have fun if you ever get into a game with the following players:
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KainTepes

I've read a game with KainTepes and it is a good strategy that will eventually not work. And I really dislike this kind of play when it gets repetative and annoying.

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