Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.

[Naomi-Tan]

Okay So I looked up Gin. Looks like he was planning to push AA today. so they might be a red. As thats the only reason I can think of that the red team would shoot them. I wanna look up RD's interactions with AA to see if there is a link there before voting just to be certain. (as I know we can do better than just blind voting at this stage)

Well RD did say stuff like they was green at one point. but I don't feel that this is a line that needs follow up. Right now we have 2 people on that team and if they are a neighbour then tomorrow a 3rd person will join it. and then we'll know for sure (assuming the target isn't killed or AA) so I don't think we should work on this today but its something I'm baring in mind.

[Naomi-Tan]

11. Human Sequencer
12. Alisae

3. Asphodel
10. All Alone

5. TwoFace
1. Gamma Emerald

Okay... so if Green is in the first bracket who are the most likely people to be red in the other two brackets. Eliminating the masons. -

Wait gamma;s up thats 3? right so. if gamma confirms this we can say AA is confirmed.

Who was recruited last night? As they are not confirmed (as your not told till day is up)

[Human Sequencer]

Please try to be more succinct and concise in your posting. I can't understand what you're trying to say.

[Naomi-Tan]

Town pool
11. Human Sequencer
12. Alisae
10. All Alone

Red Pool
3. Think Big
5. TwoFace
1. Gamma Emerald

So with that elimination done. and I'm thinking one of those 3 must connect to another for a 3 red setup to work.. so.. I'm going off to foot work any links between TB TF and GE.

[Human Sequencer]

wot

I think you're basing a lot of your speculation upon assumptions that aren't necessarily true.

You scumread Gamma though, so thanks for answering my question eventually.

[Naomi-Tan]

Please try to be more succinct and concise in your posting. I can't understand what you're trying to say.

Oh sorry I was literally posting as I was coming up with it. basically as there is 1 neighbouriser and 2 Neighbours that means the first neighbour is green (as AA would been NK'd last night) and AA is green (as there are more people than there is on the red team)

[Naomi-Tan]

Neighbour 1 must be green as must AA

[Human Sequencer]

wot

I'm not trying to discredit you, I just can't follow your logic because I can't see where it starts or stops. You might be on to something, idk. Please try to come to a conclusion, and then walk us through what led you to that confusion as clearly and concisely as possible.

[ThinkBig]

Unofficial Vote Count

1.Gamma Emerald
2.Naomi-Tan (2/4) - ThinkBig, Alisae
3.ThinkBig (Our new asphodel)
4.TwoFace
5.All Alone
6.Human Sequencer
7.Alisae

Not voting: Gamma, TwoFace, All Alone, Human Sequencer, Naomi Tan

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[ThinkBig]

I really do not like how Naomi-Tan is throwing shades everywhere. Her entire ISO is inconsistent and she has shown no logical consistency with her reads. @Naomi, why are you SR'ing me and Gamma?

[Human Sequencer]

Hold off a second, TB. I think she may be on to something.

[Human Sequencer]

I don't think pressuring Naomi will really get us anywhere. She doesn't react well to pressure as any alignment. There's far more productive things you could be doing with your posts. TB is absolutely town, btw.

Note, I still don't townread her, but I don't scumread her either.

Gamma Emerald - Town
Naomi-Tan - ?
ThinkBig - Town
TwoFace - Probably Town
All Alone - Town
Human Sequencer - Town
Alisae - Pretty town

I understand this paints Naomi as a flashlynch, but I still absolutely want to hear what she has to say and formulate a proper read beyond PoE on her slot before we jump in all guns blazing.

[ThinkBig]

HS, how are you TRing pretty much everyone?

[Naomi-Tan]

I really do not like how Naomi-Tan is throwing shades everywhere. Her entire ISO is inconsistent and she has shown no logical consistency with her reads. @Naomi, why are you SR'ing me and Gamma?

POE.

11. Human Sequencer (prob town)
12. Alisae (prob town)
10. All Alone (Conf. town)

3. Think Big
5. TwoFace
1. Gamma Emerald

Within those last 3 there must be 1 conf town (the person who was recruited N1) and the rest must be red if we have 2 reds.

[Naomi-Tan]

I really do not like how Naomi-Tan is throwing shades everywhere. Her entire ISO is inconsistent and she has shown no logical consistency with her reads. @Naomi, why are you SR'ing me and Gamma?

Also its not tossing shade. I noticed that gin was killed then went to check gins read. cross refrenced that with RD's read on AA then thought if it was a good thing to do. then upon seeing 3 people was in the group (and knowing there isn't 3 reds) I worked out that the roleclaim couldn't be faked as it is a Green role (upon checking the wiki) from there I went if AA is Green who is Green which gives me the first person recruited as the Red team would have no reason to allow AA to continue to live. As you join the chat the next day and gin died last night that confirms the first person recruited into AA's pool.

[Alisae]

Yes HS Gamma is conf town to me.
You wanna know what would make your readlist believable? A vote on Naomi.
Also to me it makes sense why scum!HS gives TF a TR and tries to delay his lynch: So he can backstab him at Mylo/Lylo.

Day 5 lynches should be either me, TF, or HS assuming we lynch Naomi.
My lynch pool is Naomi and HS

[Naomi-Tan]

VOTE: Two-Face

I just worked out that no matter which one is confirmed TF will be a red here. given he has also pushed me all game and generally has been shading me all game.

[Human Sequencer]

I don't want Naomi at L-1 because I don't want Naomi lynched yet.

I'm starting to sour on Alisae, for non-OMGUS reasons.

How many mislynches do we have left?

[Human Sequencer]

I don't understand why scumNaomi would push TwoFace here, because that leaves her dead tomorrow unless she can fabricate a lynch on me, in which case she's dead the day after.

[Naomi-Tan]

Wait... I think I made a mistake that doesn't confirm AA http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer According to the wiki it can be either alignment where I assumed it was a Green only role. Urgh so confused >_<

So.. now If AA is Red they would of lived and confirmed no one.. Urgh >_< just when I thought things was piecing together they fall apart AGAIN.

[Human Sequencer]

Naomi's logic has flaws all over, but it's not necessarily scummy.
You're still incredibly hard to follow and I still don't really understand what you're trying to say.
How does AA's first recruit become confirmed town? That was Ircher, and he was nightkilled.

[Naomi-Tan]

Naomi's logic has flaws all over, but it's not necessarily scummy.
You're still incredibly hard to follow and I still don't really understand what you're trying to say.
How does AA's first recruit become confirmed town? That was Ircher, and he was nightkilled.

Well Given I don't think there are any protection roles left Why would the reds kill Gin over AA if they knew AA's role. In this situation AA has to be green though else its a mute point. cause if there Red then the red have no reason To kill them.

IF AA is Green. Then the first person must be Green else they wouldn't be alive today and gin would
IF AA is Red. Then the first person is not confirmed.

[ThinkBig]

AA is almost certainly town by the fact that he recruited ircher. I don't think the SK killed ircher. A neighborizer can be scum, but it is very rarely used.

[Human Sequencer]

Ah fuck, I forgot sk could have killed Ircher. That changes things.

[ThinkBig]

Ah fuck, I forgot sk could have killed Ircher. That changes things.

But again, how likely is it?

I'm sticking to my gut on Naomi/TF.