Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

[Raskolnikov]

this would've been a better place for a VC

[Creature]

Only rakkar is out the place.

[Creature]

I don't think it means anything, but my OCD senses are tingling.

[schadd_]

how often does the IC get nightkilled, if town? intuitively, they will be the best target for killing a strong town player but also they ought to be kept around, from an etiquette standpoint

[Raskolnikov]

More often then not but I see creature get scumread a fair bit when he's town too.

Discussing who would be the best target for scum kill probably isn't something we should be doing to be honest.

[Raskolnikov]

It's kind of an awkward moment in the game but we're still missing like half the playerlist atm.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

More often then not but I see creature get scumread a fair bit when he's town too.

yeah creature's not an IC that gets killed N1

but that's not happening this game because i'm like 80% sure creature's town here

legit think creature's the easiest player to read on this site

[Creature]

Depends on how dangerous the IC is to scum:
- How right on track they are
- How hard to manipulate they are
- How hard to mislynch they are
- How likely to get town support they are
- And if no PR claimed

[Raskolnikov]

He's pretty easy to read though I don't know him nearly well enough to say so this early.

IC posts and so far feel pretty NAI and there's not that much to talk about either

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i feel like the posts he wrote here was like legit interest in having discussion about something

like usually scum!creature struggles to talk about something and will sometimes artificially inflate his post count with bullshit

haven't gotten that vibe at all

[gigabyteTroubadour]

interested*

[Raskolnikov]

that's true but it's early and aside from answering questions and comments on the VC there's pretty much the schadd observation
and I don't feel comfortable with a read hinging on essentially one thing.

Not to mention considering I was a bit sus of him in that game where he killed me n1 and since you apparently know him he'd have some vague idea he's going into this under some level of scrutiny

I wish you wouldn't have said this out loud before i made my mind up but there's still other tells at least.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

zzzz

yeah normally i wouldn't out a read like that early on but this sentiment of there being apathy/nothing to comment on (I thought my vote would be divise or interesting but??????) is kind of annoying

[gigabyteTroubadour]

divivise*

i should be coding sorry im in class

[Raskolnikov]

In general I like looking at people when their guard is down so this is kinda lame, hopefully you're right anyways though.

Actually this was kinda my bad for asking about it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

divisive**



and eh anything to get the game moving, don't feel bad

[Raskolnikov]

So I kind of take issue with doing things in a gamestate like this on principle.

It's very realistic one or both (given my reads) scum are in those who haven't done anything and if you force yourself to find something where there could be potentially nothing it can be inefficient or downright misleading.

In one of my very first games both scum actually just lurked out, eventually getting replaced out and only started to come into scrutiny a lot later where everyone including me tunneled and lynched town, I had the exact thought "there's no way both of them replaced out!" and misread on that basis.

Pretty confident you're town now though, at least. Schadd's alright too.

[Raskolnikov]

I'm not sure on think but putting him l-1 on that basis doesn't really feel justified?

[Creature]

It's weird, but if a slot has been scummy and then later it starts looking towny, it's still most likely scum.

[mattblackguy]

Hm, I don't really see what ThinkBig did that was scummy. All I see is him asking some questions at the start of the game to spark some conversation, and then him making a joke a little later. Just seems like Giga, and Schadd are tunneling on him.

(Also hi everyone! This is my first game so I hope everyone has fun)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I can see myself as tunneling, but Schadd? His vote doesn't seem that aggressive to me.

plus idk if this is really the point in the gamestate where someone can be tunneling as town, not everyone has posted so you're still forced to read every slot that makes sense

Unless you're insinuating I'm scum going for an overblown push and preemptively going for the confbiased-townie archetype?

Also hey

[Creature]

GAYreen, rakkar, Shade, maybe matt.

This will be a hard game

[gigabyteTroubadour]

kinda hard to make a call on this game's difficulty without everyone posting

give it a day or two

also if it's worth noting i correctly called GAYreen as scum in our last game together but got lynched for like no reason in LYLO when i was calling for his head

[Creature]

None of GAYreen, rakkar and Shade were online after Day 1 started...

[mattblackguy]

@Gigabyte, Why do you say RVS is over even though about half of the people haven't even posted yet, and there doesn't seem to be any leads to go off of right now.