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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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The quick brrrrrown fffffox jumps overrrrr the lazy dog.
I am post rrrrrestricted, and will have a difffffffffferrrrrent post rrrrrestricted everrrrryday. I will be more ffffforthcoming when I rrrrreturn."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.-
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RRRRRC, I'd rrrrratherrrrr wait to see you on the weekend than see you go; it's looking like I might fffffall into a similarrrrr boat soon and I haven't gotten the chance to play with you rrrrrecently so seeing you herrrrre and then seeing you gone would be hearrrrrtbreaking."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Vote: drrrrrealmerrrrrrz7
Staeg can have my place in the block; I'm not rrrrreally surrrrrre I like the dirrrrection it's headed fffforrrrr now."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Vote: Dunnstrrrrral
I don't mind a Nahdia vote, but she's too prrrrrickly fffforrrrr me to push therrrrre at the moment. I don't like the get offffffff me interrrrractions with Nahdia fffffrrrrrom Dunn, and I don't like the "get these votes off now" as substitutions forrrrr rrrrreal rrrrreactions to votes on him.
My initial intention with this day was to ffffflutterrrrrr with a fffffrrrrriend. I haven't fffffound one yet."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Morrrrre posting usually helps. Unforrrrtunately, sometimes you don't have time to do anything but fffffloat. I expect that to change momentarrrrrily, but that change will likely be grrrrradual.In post 487, camntsuki wrote:you posting more would help...."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I voted him initially because I didn't like his "why arrrrren't you letting me unvote" post - it seemed like a disingenuous apprrrrroach based on my experrrrrience with him. I'm less botherrrred by his fffffollowup, although he is not yet a townrrrread.In post 488, camntsuki wrote:Like... tell me about this dreamers guy- should I hate him?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Why?In post 520, Infinity 324 wrote:
Yeah this solidifies my townread on nahdiaIn post 413, Nahdia wrote:a specific mindset you seem to be putting forward which is one I don't think you can fake. I mean, sure you could write the words, but I don't honestly believe you would KNOW to fake it."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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No consequences yet.In post 672, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Nacho needs to explain his apparent post restriction (lets entertain the fact it's real ) and any consequences because he failed to roll an f or r in a few posts.
Is therrrrre a rrrrreason you think that I'm ffffaking this post rrrrestrrrriction?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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If you thought that Dunnstrrrral was ffffishing, then why didn't you prrrress him about it? It's something that you ffffelt strrrrongly enough about wherrrrre you brrrrought it up multiple times, so why didn't that botherrrr everrrrr trrrranslate into suspicion?In post 10, drealmerz7 wrote:Dunnstral already fishing and he thinks he's slick
btw, I have a small d
you have a big D
Why does me claiming that I have a post rrrrrestrrrriction mean that I am a better lynch? Ifffff yourrr answerrr looks anything like "you'rrrrre sneaky", then what gain would faking a post rrrrrestrrriction brrrrring me?In post 81, drealmerz7 wrote:x10 when it is nacho
This is you talking about why you fffffind Dunnstrrrrral's earrrrly rrrrroleffffishing scummy. If you fffffound it scummy, why didn't you act on it at all?In post 257, drealmerz7 wrote:First, ^ this comes off majorly awkward to me, in a scummyway too. but that is not the main issue for me
the main issue is that, why are you not inclined to think they'd bring it up in 2 places? your stance is that scum wouldn't bother, but why would town bother? If I see something I think could be a soft or crumb, the last thing I do is bring it up and talk about it, that is, really scummy, so the defense of the action is scummy to me too.
What does me lying as a jesterrrr last game have to do with this game?In post 395, drealmerz7 wrote:I have a little experience with nacho and I am much more inclined to think he made it up than not. Last game I was with him in he fakeclaimed something like a ticking-bomb in his first post to setup a D3 (or was it 4?) lynch on himself saying if we didn't kill him before that we were in trouble sort of shit (he was jester.) details are shakey, ask him for more
As for missing post rrrrrestrrrrictions, I assume that Ffffffate is being lenient because rrrrrememberrrring to do all of this weirrrrrd shit to my letterrrrrrs while typing is diffffffffficult; at firrrrrst I assumed that he was missing them, but I doubt this is the case since everrrrrrryone has been so helpfffffful in pointing out wherrrrre I've missed them. Ifffff you'rrrrrre prrrrraying fffffor me to get modkilled, don't worry, I'm surrrrrre it'll come eventually.
This is the strrrrrong meta rrrrrrread that you have on me?In post 400, drealmerz7 wrote:but seriously nacho is probably scum and he's broken and crying in a corner that he rolled scum for this game that's why he's not around
he's been rolling scum tons and with how this game is set he'd be way more in it
This seems a bit shallow when you don't know whetherrrrrr I've been rrrrolling scum orrrrr town a lot and when you've played a total of two games with me."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Affffter thrrrree difffffffffferrrrrent people brrrrrought it up therrrrrre wasn't everrrr a way I was getting out without addrrrrrressing it in one ffffforrrrrm orrrrrr anotherrrr.In post 683, SpyreX wrote:Nacho i beg of you please no pr discussion i need sanity
Give me the lifeline"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I'd prrrrrrobably fffffeel good about the sofffffft ifffff I knew what it actually rrrrrrefffffferrrrring to anything, but it isn't.In post 19, Dunnstral wrote:@drealmerz take notes, not even beating around the bush on the soft
Dunn's contrrrrributions in the middle fffffeel underrrrrwhelming, lacking. People who arrrrrrre townrrrrrreading drrrrealmerrrr rrrrright now seem to be doing so fffffforrrrr style rrrrrreasons (the "he just says things difffffferrrrrent than how scum would" bit strrrrrrikes me as just that), his vote on Infinity for voting Staeg was lame and easy and his vote on SAD for ???? rrrrrrreasons is in a similar tier.
His interrraction with Nahdia earrrrrlierrrr that I hightlighted beffffforrrrre I'll brrrrring up again:In post 227, Dunnstral wrote:back off nahdiaIn post 238, Dunnstral wrote:Why did you vote me nahdia?In post 283, Dunnstral wrote:Get off me nowIn post 285, Dunnstral wrote:
Well saidIn post 277, Nahdia wrote:It's like when One Direction sings about that girl and they say "I don't know what it is, but you've got that one thing". Dunnstral has that one thing, just like that girl. Except, instead of making him a desirable chick for a group of British boy band singers, it makes him scummy.
Sig worthy in fact........It seems lazy to the point of being disingenuous; I guess I could be completely offffff with rrrrrreading the "get offffff me" bits as sofffffftclaims sprrrrrung way too earrrrrrly to be rrrrrreal, but iffffff this is all he has to say in rrrrrrresponse to herrrrrr suspicion on him, I don't see why he botherrrred in the ffffffirrrrrst place.
But, the main rrrrreason I'm botherrrred is just because therrrre's nothing therrrrrre; no town rrrrrreads ffffffrrrrrom the slot that I fffffind insightffffful, no scum rrrrrreads that have conviction, and nothing that looks like an attempt at it. Even the strrrrrongest stances he has don't rrrrrreally have anything behind them; look at the drrrrrrrealmerrrr rrrrread he's exprrrrrressed multiple times and how he interrrrracts with mollie about it; there's no rrrrreal attempt to convince herrrrr or sell herrrr, he just goes "Drrrrealmerrrr is town!" and leaves it therrrre."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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In post 413, Nahdia wrote:Incidentally, this relates to why mollie is tragically failing to read me. She's looking at my attitude, what she describes as "I am too kewl for this gig" and somehow coming to the conclusion that it's scum indicative.
You think that mollie is rrrrreading you incorrrrrrrrrrrrectly because offfff yourrrrr attitude. Why then, would you apprrrrroach herrrrrr like this? Iffffff she is scum, you arrrrrre giving herrrr morrrrre fffffuel to attack you in a similarrrrr mannerrrrr. Ifffff she is town, then you arrrre driving a wedge in between you and herrrr which obviously isn't good for town.In post 702, Nahdia wrote:I'm not calling you a dick, I'm calling you idiotic."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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You highlight that eitherrrr he's being lackadaisical townie orrrr scum. I don't think his "yaaaay I'm excited opening" trrrrranslates to emphatically not giving a fffffuck forrrrr the rrrrrest offffff the game (so fffffarrrr).In post 503, Nahdia wrote:
I think this is a lame reason to dislike Dunn, all things considered. I don't see Dunn as the kind of player who would actively dismiss "real interactions" as scum so transparently just for the sake of it. Either he's town and he's being lackadaisical, or he's scum and he's trying to curate his tone as such.In post 484, Nachomamma8 wrote:I don't like the "get these votes off now" as substitutions forrrrr rrrrreal rrrrreactions to votes on him."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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In post 413, Nahdia wrote:If you need me to point to something concrete, I don't believe you would know to fake the tone of what you just wrote from 398 to 400.In post 398, drealmerz7 wrote:no, actually that is how you play mafia
fucking arrogance with so many of you like "I KNOW WHO SCUM IS BECAUSE DUHHDUHHH" - no, you fucking don't, unless you're scum or had a N0 cop result that you know isn't a lie
interact, discuss things, form reads that grow
presuming to discover them with such confidence is foolish and unnecessary (and hurtful to the cause)
you don't solve the game D1
I know, you read this and are like "well duh of course"
well then fucking play like it
worry less about votes and more about finding scumIn post 399, drealmerz7 wrote:
oh, nacho, where you at?!In post 397, camntsuki wrote:also- anyone wanna take odds on nacho and dreamerz being scum together?
*tickletickle*
Low expectations.In post 400, drealmerz7 wrote:btw those odds would pay off like BOOOOM if it were true (cause we were scum together just in november)
but seriously nacho is probably scum and he's broken and crying in a corner that he rolled scum for this game that's why he's not around
he's been rolling scum tons and with how this game is set he'd be way more in it
this is the strongest scum-lurk read I've ever had and it's early D1 so...yerp, no one's going to believe it probably
nacho, what can I do? come dance with me in the forest?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Not ifffff she had a ffffffakeclaim.In post 715, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I like this post too I think scum would be too scared to discuss this
In post 507, Kagami wrote:Btw, Staeg, from what I've seen here, turtle-ness is probably pretty important.
I'd be willing to bet our role names are of the form: <flavored rolename>, a <Turtle/scumflavor> Mystic."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Any rrrroleffffishing arrrrguments crrrrrrreated fffffrrrrom Kagami's post would be prrrrretty obnoxiously convoluted.In post 721, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:I'm saying even if she has a fake-claim or whatever scum are probably too scared to discuss setup because they don't wanna come off as role fishing or something. Kagami's post felt like "Idgaf I do what I want" type of rebel thing so it looks p natural."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Kagami does so fffffrrrrrequently; haven't seen her get yelled at ffffforrrr it.In post 736, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
No I'm p sure literally everyone and their mother gets an aneurysm whenever someone dares to discuss anything related to roles on Day 1 on this site.In post 733, SpyreX wrote:I'm saying theres nothing scary about posting it"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Shooting down one obviously bad rrrrrreason shouldn't make you ffffffall in love.In post 744, SpyreX wrote:But that dont change the discussion about why shes town not being good"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nahdia/Dunn/Drrrrrealm is the nexus offfff playerrrrrs that I don't like, but cerrrrtain interrrractions between them fffffeel strrrange.
Nahdia's on and off rrrread on Dunn is weirrrrd ffffforrrr a parrrtnerrrr interrraction.
Dunn and Nahdia both harrrrrd deffffending drrrream fffforrrr weak rrrrreasons is an odd trrrrrifffffecta interrraction."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Who?In post 751, SpyreX wrote:
My heart is a fickle mistressIn post 748, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Shooting down one obviously bad rrrrrreason shouldn't make you ffffffall in love.In post 744, SpyreX wrote:But that dont change the discussion about why shes town not being good
And its not an undying love but most definitely not interested today. Even if i was gonna vote for not camn theres a whole slew before there"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I'm not surrrre what you'rrrrre looking fffforrrr as ffffarrrrr as suggestions go. I thought yourrrr rrrrread had fffffflawed logic. I pointed it out. This is what a good numberrrr offfff my posts will look like.In post 750, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Sigh.
Why do people argue over with me with how I form reads and what I see as town and then offer 0 suggestions.
Like great do you want a cookie.
I'll stick to whatever works for me thank you very much I'm not trying to convince anyone of Kagami-town it's not a dick measuring contest someone literally just asked me what I think of her.
It's the same stupid thing people pulled on me in Defcon I was saying UT was scum because I trusted Reck's gut read on him then people decided to go "Ohhhh no that's dumb thinking you can't just trust Reck's gut read like that". Meanwhile..."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Crrrrriticizing should be parrrrt offfff the prrrocess.In post 755, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Great then why the fuck are you wasting my time let me read people how I want to if you're not gonna help me with the read in any way and just criticize everything I say."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Time.In post 759, pirate mollie wrote:then why are you not criticizing the players who deserve it instead of after the 1s who actually give a damn
there is something missing from your play can you guess what it is
I've pointed out things about all of Nahdia, drrrrealmerrrrr, and Dunn that I don't like. That's who I think deserrrrves it. SAD took an offfffhanded comment much morrrrre serrriously than I intended fffforrrr it to be taken."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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spyrrrrrex i've verrrrry brrrrrutally and hearrrrrtbrrrrreakingly been down the camntsuki rrrroad you're trrrrravelling down befffforrrre and it hasn't ended pleasantly. I get that the rrrrrreasons that she pushed you werrrrre bananas and have absolutely nothing to with what you've actually said this game, but I don't think that it's coming ffffffrrrrom a bad scum perrrrson place. Iffff she werrre scum, I don't think that herrrr ffffirrrrst goal would be to merrrrrrrrily rrrrrrram a lynch thrrrrrough on you; you'rrrrrre not an easy lynch and you'rrrrre especially difffffffffficult to lynch when yourrrrrr irrrrre is rrraised. i think that camn is currrrrrrently parrrrranoid offfff you, and is making a push based on you fffffeeling underrrrwhelming (which has been an obserrrrrvation made by a ffffeew people this game) and trrrrying to ffffeel you out. With drrrrream I just have a fffeeling and I'd love ifffff you would be a pariah-brrro and rrrrride the fffffeeling with me but even iffff you don't trrrrust me like that and you end up somewherrre that isn't a townrrrread then that's still victorrrry."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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spyrrrrrex i've verrrrry brrrrrutally and hearrrrrtbrrrrreakingly been down the camntsuki rrrroad you're trrrrravelling down befffforrrre and it hasn't ended pleasantly. I get that the rrrrrreasons that she pushed you werrrrre bananas and have absolutely nothing to with what you've actually said this game, but I don't think that it's coming ffffffrrrrom a bad scum perrrrson place. Iffff she werrre scum, I don't think that herrrr ffffirrrrst goal would be to merrrrrrrrily rrrrrrram a lynch thrrrrrough on you; you'rrrrrre not an easy lynch and you'rrrrre especially difffffffffficult to lynch when yourrrrrr irrrrre is rrraised. i think that camn is currrrrrrently parrrrranoid offfff you, and is making a push based on you fffffeeling underrrrwhelming (which has been an obserrrrrvation made by a ffffeew people this game) and trrrrying to ffffeel you out. With drrrrream I just have a fffeeling and I'd love ifffff you would be a pariah-brrro and rrrrride the fffffeeling with me but even iffff you don't trrrrust me like that and you end up somewherrre that isn't a townrrrread then that's still victorrrry."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I think that maybe you'rrrrre getting a lot offfff noise fffffrrrrrom camn's playstyle that's just playstyle.In post 778, Papa Zito wrote:There's no progression in any of this. It's all random and self-contradictory and if I hear "welp hydra" I swear to god I'll burn this thread down. The weird dance with Mollie and 296 are gravy.
One offfff yourrrrr prrrrroblems seems to be that Camn voted Nahdia despite having strrrrrongerrrrr suspicions elsewherrrrre - I don't think that's parrrrrticularrrrrly weirrrrrd ffffforrrrr herrrrr; in Fffffamily Mafffffia, she ended up voting Jalapeno when she was suspecting me; she also posited a possible House/Drrrrram/Krrrrraska scumteam then didn't do anything with it ffffforrrrr a verrrrry long time. I think that when she's town (and prrrrrobably when she's scum although I don't have as much experrrrrience therrrrre) she likes to play with severrrrral possibilities at once; sometimes she'll fffffeel verrrrry strrrrrongly about something ffffforrrrr one second and then a little while laterrrrr it doesn't seem quite so appealing (such as when she fffffelt rrrrreally good about me being scum beffffforrrrre she unvoted Jalapeno, then it ffffflarrrrred up ffffforrrrr a little while and then died ffffforrrrr no rrrrreal rrrrreason again in Fffffamily Mafffffia).
This mindset explains to me why she'd end up voting Nahdia but talk about possible Nacho-drrrrrealmerrrrr and SpyrrrrreX-Dunnstrrrrral worrrrrlds; the scum motivation behind it that you seem to be exprrrrressing is that scum!camn doesn't know that she's exprrrrressing scumrrrrreads on people otherrrrr than Nahdia/isn't talking about Nahdia that much (prrrrresumably to get Nahdia lynched without having to signiffffficantly defffffend it, but I don't think that makes sense as a narrrrrrrrrrative when Nahdia hasn't been close to getting lynched, but I could defffffinitely be missing something therrrrre).
I also think sometimes she makes votes just to see how things shake out - take, ffffforrrrr example, Camn sheeping House rrrrrandomly in Fffffamily Mafffffia. This is what I think that herrrrr Infffffinity vote meant to herrrrr; I think she was just trrrrrying to change the vibe offfff the game which meant encourrrrraging a D1 lynch that she didn't love and she didn't hate.
Therrrrre arrrrre also a couple interrrrractions centerrrrring arrrrround me that you'rrrrre weirrrrrded out about, and I think that it's just a rrrrreffffflection offfff herrrrr trrrrreatment offfff me in generrrrral. When she talks to me about my rrrrread on someone else even though she's scumrrrrreading me Day 1, that's the brrrrro pass - she generrrrrally fffffeels uncomffffforrrrrtable lynching me Day 1 and doesn't mind giving me a bit offfff space on occasion; she does want everrrrry efffffffffforrrrrt to rrrrread me though, so she does end up questioning and drrrrrawing out my opinion on cerrrrrtain playerrrrrs to get a betterrrrr bead on me and on them. When she wanted to give drrrrrealmerrrrr a pass but wanted to "shake me out", she wasn't talking about lynching, she was talking about prrrrressurrrrre. I can see why she'd be morrrrre interrrrrested in sorrrrrting me overrrrr drrrrrealmerrrrr based on the brrrrro pass."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I’m sorrrrrrrrrry. I’m herrrrre, I’ve been strrrrruggling because I haven’t yet fffffound my grrrrroove with this game/haven’t had fffffun lately, but I apprrrrreciate and see yourrrrr rrrrreach out and I’m moving to do betterrrrr now. I’m not scum.In post 827, Kagami wrote:Better example, since I somehow created a sentence with no Fs or Rs.
<in cell A1> I'm nacho, I am ignoring kagami despite generally having some respect for her reads.
<in cell A2> =SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(SUBSTITUTE(A1, "F", "Ff"), "R", "Rr"), "f", "ffff"), "r", "rrrr")"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't think therrrrre's any possible interrrrrprrrrretation offfff SpyrrrrreX's posts rrrrrelated to the Nahdia hate except that he was wrrrrrong and he neverrrrr rrrrreally acknowledged that he was wrrrrrong. I think that the way that he handled it was sloppy at best. Howeverrrrr, I don't think that's how SpyrrrrreX handles the situation unless something fffffunky was going on (ffffforrrrr example, ifffff he was incrrrrredibly fffffrrrrrustrrrrrated while posting). I don't rrrrreally think therrrrre's any rrrrreal motivation as scum to misrrrrreprrrrresent the Nahdia suspicion to that degrrrrree unless maybe he was trrrrrying to buddy up to Nahdia with it (and I can't see him thinking that would be effffffffffective when he was offffffffff on why people werrrrre pushing herrrrr in the fffffirrrrrst place). In parrrrrticularrrrr, I can't see him rrrrresponding to RrrrrC saying that it was unfffffairrrrr that SpyrrrrreX dismissed RrrrrC's Nahdia suspicion as "meta bullshit" by quoting the SAD line; I mean, maybe he is scum that rrrrreally can't fffffind a way to let go offfff something that's getting out offfff trrrrrouble but SpyrrrrreX is experrrrrienced enough to say "I wasn't awarrrrre therrrrre was much Nahdia hate outside offfff SAD's case, my bad". And I want to give him rrrrroom because offfff the fffffrrrrrustrrrrration. (While glancing at his ISO, I also fffffound 245 which also could be a rrrrreason why everrrrryone's Nahdia hate = SAD's).
I mean this:
Spoiler:
Is fffffrrrrrustrrrrration that's fffffairrrrrly potent prrrrretty earrrrrly and I only fffffeel like it gets strrrrrongerrrrr and strrrrrongerrrrr down the rrrrroad; I want to believe that SpyrrrrreX doesn't get this unhinged this earrrrrly as scum because I underrrrrstand all too well wherrrrre it's coming fffffrrrrrom; when Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreal Fffffffffffffffffffffolks Blues was going on it fffffelt like everrrrryone was going absolutely insane overrrrr me ffffforrrrr the worrrrrst shittiest rrrrreasons in the entirrrrre worrrrrld and it fffffrrrrrustrrrrrated me to the point wherrrrre it bled overrrrr into otherrrrr games and that wouldn't have happened as scum."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't think that all thrrrrree offfff them arrrrre scum togetherrrrr (2 offfff the thrrrrree prrrrrobably worrrrrks but Dunn/Nahdia/Drrrrrealmerrrrr is just a weirrrrrd combo thanks to theirrrrr interrrrractions as a whole).In post 783, pirate mollie wrote:is it a scum trifecta
I am totally willing to go there why aren't you
you are in the juxtaposition category and I don't really know what to do with you
I'm herrrrre now. Wherrrrre did you go?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't think that mislynching that hydrrrrra will brrrrring noise down; I think that cupcake will prrrrrobably burrrrry the thrrrrread in toxicity ifffff he's being policy lynched and I don't want to go thrrrrrough that and don't think it would be good ffffforrrrr the game in generrrrral. I agrrrrree with you on Infffffinity; it's not the type offfff town rrrrread that I could powerrrrrfffffully defffffend ifffff push comes to shove but he does legitimately fffffeel lost and I don't want to lynch him today. I'm happy to lynch drrrrrealmerrrrrz/Zito/Nahdia/Dunn today, would ffffflex to Infffffinity/Staeg ifffff prrrrressed, wouldn't lynch anyone else. Can we comprrrrromise somewherrrrre in that grrrrroup?In post 831, pirate mollie wrote:I want cupcake cos it will bring the noise level down and camn is not making the hydra better."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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When camn is camn, I get a strrrrrong, beautiffffful town signal and I agrrrrree that she's generrrrrally prrrrretty intuitive, and, even ifffff I disagrrrrree wherrrrre she's going, I enjoy watching herrrrr get therrrrre and I rrrrrespect herrrrr rrrrreads. As camntsuki, the signal is much morrrrre muddled than it is on camn. When I played with herrrrr in Fffffamily Mafffffia, even when she suspected me while I was town, I underrrrrstood why she suspected me, I saw the rrrrread slowly fffffall away, I rrrrrespected the rrrrread in the end. When we played togetherrrrr in Gumball and she was camnsuki, I tunneled like a rrrrrabid dog ffffforrrrr 4-5 days orrrrr something rrrrridiculous like that beffffforrrrre getting a signal that I could trrrrrust. I don't think herrrrr earrrrrly prrrrressing was out offfff line (rrrrre: SpyrrrrreX); it went on longerrrrr than I expected it to, but I don't think that calling SpyrrrrreX underrrrrwhelming earrrrrly was something that was bonkerrrrrs. I don't rrrrreally rrrrrememberrrrr herrrrr otherrrrr signiffffficant pushes this game so I can't rrrrreally speak to those.In post 846, pirate mollie wrote:here is the problem I have with the first paragraph of your post; camn does that as town and actually her posts when she is town usually land on scum. she is a spot on intuitive player do you really see this happening in this game?
What arrrrre you rrrrreffffferrrrrrrrrring to when you say ourrrrr views offfff herrrrr play arrrrre diametrrrrrically opposed - what do you disagrrrrree with specifffffically? You'rrrrre not talking to herrrrr like you think that she's scum; you'rrrrre talking to herrrrr like you think that she's harrrrrmffffful to the game.
I don't underrrrrstand why my trrrrreatment offfff herrrrr is weirrrrrd - I've been keeping everrrrryone at arrrrrm's length until today so I'm not surrrrre why my interrrrractions with herrrrr stand out to you specifffffically.
Ditto rrrrre: drrrrrealmerrrrr; I've seen drrrrrealmerrrrr-Nacho teams tossed arrrrround a couple times, but fffffrrrrrom my end I had a gut rrrrread, then I lost confffffidence, then I gained confffffidence yet again. I've talked about why I was botherrrrred by drrrrrealmerrrrr yesterrrrrday; did you think that I wasn't clearrrrr enough orrrrr did you think that my rrrrreasons ffffforrrrr suspecting him werrrrre fffffake/not valid/something else?
I don't have any thoughts on Dunn's "Drrrrrealmerrrrr is town" mantrrrrra beyond what I've said alrrrrready; one offfff the main rrrrreasons why I don't think Dunn/Nahdia/Drrrrrealmerrrrr worrrrrks as a trrrrrifffffecta is because I don't think that Nahdia and Dunn would both adopt the rrrrreasonless defffffense offfff the same scum parrrrrtnerrrrr (it makes morrrrre sense intuitively ffffforrrrr one to be taking coverrrrr with the otherrrrr), and I don't like that Drrrrrealmerrrrr is the strrrrrongest rrrrread Dunn's exprrrrressed this game (the one with the most emotional attachment), and even then he hasn't rrrrreally made any efffffffffforrrrrt to explain it.
I'll post why I'd be okay with a drrrrrealmerrrrr lynch in a separrrrrate post because I don't think most people arrrrre rrrrreading this one."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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This would be a valid statement ifffff you didn't say it today.In post 846, pirate mollie wrote:cos rn you are commenting and not investing.
You'rrrrre corrrrrrrrrrect that, beffffforrrrre today, I have been commenting and not investing. Today is the fffffirrrrrst day that I've actually done and said things that arrrrre meaningffffful; you point out that I've been caterrrrring to active people, yep, looking ffffforrrrr a fffffrrrrriend because I'm a weirrrrrd fffffrrrrreak and sometimes I need someone to bounce things offffffffff in orrrrrderrrrr to fffffunction in a game and sometimes I have slow starrrrrts and sometimes even when town I'm just not therrrrre in the beginning offfff a game and I don't fffffeel awesomely about it because I fffffeel myselfffff digging a hole (I know my posts arrrrren't scrrrrreaming town, people arrrrre starrrrrting to dig at me which annoys me and makes it harrrrrderrrrr to town, etc), but it's what's been happening. Today is the fffffirrrrrst day that isn't happening and ifffff you want to come out offfff this with a good rrrrread on me then the fffffirrrrrst step is to see at least that much."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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The crrrrrux offfff my scumrrrrread on drrrrrealmerrrrrz (the parrrrrt that I carrrrre about the most) is herrrrre. I'm having difffffffffficulty seeing him ffffforrrrrming a scumrrrrread offfff this strrrrrength on me (rrrrreinffffforrrrrced by us being scum togetherrrrr, him believing he has an underrrrrstanding offfff me as a playerrrrr and wherrrrre I am emotionally) and then suddenly doubting it because ???. I don't think that drrrrrealmerrrrrz as town lets that rrrrread in parrrrrticularrrrr go so easily; yes, I rrrrrealize he did the "show me yourrrrr meat" song and dance, but that fffffeels difffffffffferrrrrent than actually pushing me and rrrrreveling in his moment offfff clarrrrrity.In post 400, drealmerz7 wrote:btw those odds would pay off like BOOOOM if it were true (cause we were scum together just in november)
but seriously nacho is probably scum and he's broken and crying in a corner that he rolled scum for this game that's why he's not around
he's been rolling scum tons and with how this game is set he'd be way more in it
this is the strongest scum-lurk read I've ever had and it's early D1 so...yerp, no one's going to believe it probably
nacho, what can I do? come dance with me in the forest?
My greatest doubt is here:
It's an odd rrrrreachout, to be surrrrre, but ifffff I interrrrrprrrrreted it corrrrrrrrrrectly, it seems like he fffffeels sorrrrrrrrrry ffffforrrrr me being as demorrrrralized as I was and was kind offfff cheerrrrrleading ffffforrrrr a hypothetical Nacho!scum to get his head in the game. That's the parrrrrt that I fffffeel wouldn't be coming fffffrrrrrom drrrrrealmerrrrr as scum. I also see the possibility offfff drrrrrealmerrrrr (who goes fffffrrrrrom confffffident scum to not so confffffident scum at difffffffffferrrrrent interrrrrvals) as scum fffffinding himselfffff in a place wherrrrre he doesn't rrrrreally want to dig in his heels and push the hell out offfff me quite yet; I have no idea how he would trrrrry to back offffffffff fffffrrrrrom a push on me. When we werrrrre scum togetherrrrr, a playerrrrr that he was pushing gave a strrrrrong emotional rrrrresponse back and he shuffffffffffled away; is he giving me space because he's expecting a similarrrrr rrrrresult?In post 454, drealmerz7 wrote:though, fuck, if he's scum it's just so demoralizing and I feel bad, but,
if he's scum this game, the energies are truly tell him something and he needs to figure out what that is
this is the game for it, nacho, if it's true
I am here for you
That is why I was interrrrrested in a rrrrresponse beffffforrrrre prrrrressing him; we haven't rrrrreally gotten the chance to interrrrract yet and I have a fffffeeling that seeing morrrrre offfff wherrrrre his interrrrractions arrrrre coming fffffrrrrrom would help me underrrrrstand him betterrrrr."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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You have to meet me halffffway Spyrrrrrex. Rrrright now you'rrrre digging yourrrr heels in on this camn nonsense because they werrrrre completely offfff about who you werrrrre pushing; I'm not voting them because I think they arrrrre town and I think yourrrr rrrrreasons fffforrrrr voting them arrrrre borrring and uninspirrrring. I've talked about the rrrrreasons why I'm suspecting my main thrrree suspects; why arrrrre none of these good lynches?In post 865, SpyreX wrote:I mean you're quoting another game, infinity is saying well he did that cause and nacho is saying let's not lynch camn cause itll... hurt feelings?
Rrrright now I'm looking for a lynch. Iffff that rrrrrequirrrres a leap of ffffaith in orderrrrr to get thrrrrough the day, ffffine. Ifff you want to save Zito and want my vote to do it, you know who I want dead."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't want to lynch Zito. I'm voting Zito because that's wherrre the herrrrd is going fffforrrrr now. Ifffff therrre's movement towarrrrds the thrrrree people I want lynched the most, that's wherrrre I'll be.In post 869, pirate mollie wrote:so you think think that dreamz is hoodwinking dunn somewhere cos really that is the only place he cld be doing this from what I have noticed and now you wanna lynch zito"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I'm not townrrrreading him. I'm ffffollowing Kagami.In post 869, pirate mollie wrote:plz humour me and give a reason to vote zito that is not iso-ing him and coming up with () that are reasonable w/o parroting the reasons which have already been said?
I alrrready gave you an answerrrr to the Dunn question unless I hallucinated it."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I didn't unvote him because I thought he was town, although I am not rrrreally botherrrred by him posting elsewhere.In post 869, pirate mollie wrote:the timing of your unvote off of dreamz makes zero sense especially since he is not posting in the game but somehow manages in his idle time to post elsewhere and no I am not talking about games. if you think that my whole nahdia/dreamz/dunn is a bust then talk to me about dunn and how you are avoiding that whole duo that you have dropped like a hot potato.
I don't think that the thrrreee you've pointed out arrrrre a bust; what gave you that imprrrrression?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Somehow I don't think this is verrrry rrrreasurrrrrring.In post 867, Dunnstral wrote:In post 856, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Here is an updated tier list
RC, mollie
Staeg, infinity, Kagami, dreamz
Dunn, Spyrex, Nacho
camnhydra
Nahdia, Zito
Man you people making me doubt on dreamz and moving him to tier 2 I hope you're happy.
So why exactly am I lynchable?In post 857, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:People I'm okay with lynching today:
Zito
Nahdia
Dunn
I will go on record saying I oppose a dreamz and infinity lynch today (and camnhydra too because I think I can get a better read on them anyway if they keep posting so no rush to lynch them)
Kagami your paranoi is misplaced is all I can say"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Drrream/Nahdia/Dunn.In post 878, pirate mollie wrote:who are the 3 you want lynched again"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I don't have any parrrticularrrrr desirrrre to lynch Zito, but I'm willing to meet Kagami and otherrrs in the middle.In post 880, pirate mollie wrote:so you don't want to lynch zito but you are following kagami and the herd is herding in that direction but you are not townreading him
this is the very definition of fencesitting
I thought what I wanted was clearrr, but, in case it wasn't:
Drrrrrealmerrr and Dunn arrrrre the lynches I want the most. These arrrrre the lynches that would cause my hearrrt to drrrrrop ifffff they came back grrreeen.
Nahdia is the lynch I want next. I am not as conffffident on this as the otherrrs (see: D/D/N making a weirrrrrd team), but this is a lynch I'd make happily.
Zito is a lynch that I ffffeel is a ffffine lynch. I don't have a rrrreason to townrrrread him, and Zito is me meeting Kagami halffffway.
Inffffinity is the lynch that has the strrrrongest supporrrrt today. I don't rrrrreally want to lynch him because he ffffeels legitimately lost."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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No. I meant to say that I didn't unvote him because I was townrrrreading him (implying that I unvoted him fffforrrrr a diffffferrrent reason); ifffff I said anything else, it was a typo.In post 883, pirate mollie wrote:I thought you were townreading him isn't that why you jumped off of him?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Magical powerrrrs rrrrequirrrrre conviction and time. I don't have the components ffffforrrr the usual spell. I don't think this is necessarrrrrily a bad thing fffforrrrr today considerrrring the numberrr offff chickens without heads.In post 883, pirate mollie wrote:also your push on him is weaksauce if you wanted him lynched it wld have happened by now"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I wasn't speaking playerrrr to playerrrr.In post 883, pirate mollie wrote:also didn't you say to nahdia that she was alienating me which she totally is but my point is that you are totally talking to her as if she were town?"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Drrrrrealmerrr is scum.In post 953, drealmerz7 wrote:it is because he drew scum again, for this game, he hurts him, I'm sure
his vote on me is a cry out for help to get him lynched
if others are willing, I am willing to show him mercy"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I haven't brushed offfffff Kagami morrrrre than I've brrrrushed offff anyone else in the game. As I talked about earrrrly, I haven't had time to post in this game - I've had one opporrrunity to post on a computer this game (which was yesterrrrrday as you can imagine); otherwise, I've been mobile posting. The ffffact that Dunn and Drrrrrealmerrr (and SAD ffffforrrr some inexplicable rrrreason) are the ones spearrrrheading my lynch should tell you something significant; Dunn, as usual, is still fffffloating along, and the ffffact that people arrrrre buying Drrrrrealmerrr's "you will be rrrrreleased" garrrrbage is a shame.In post 954, pirate mollie wrote:
in this case I think it is. while it has been a while since either of us have played with each other solo, I think his ability to emotionally lie is still something he cannot easily do. I can't do any of the usual tricks that I use in order to draw him out but there are a cple of giant red flags that are impossible to ignore. scumacho has a tendency to hide behind heavy analysis on a player with lots of words and are usually correct when talking about certain players when he wants to get on their good side (i.e: his read on camn). but dreamz asked him to dance which scumacho ignored and the only follow up was a limp wristed vote. but the BIGGEST thing is how he is brushing off kagami; kagami is a player he highly respects and 1 in which he wld reach out to and yes he can read her. he isn't doing that. so I guess if I had to put it into words I wld say that he is townhunter and gatherer and is great at drawing town together. I am not seeing that here. he is coasting but it will be challenging to get other pple to see it.In post 952, Infinity 324 wrote:Yeah I understand your frustration mollie, and I agree it might be better if we didn't try to sync our reads this game.
Also wanted to say that I definitely agree with this but not sure it's alignment indicative in this case? I haven't played much with nacho though.In post 950, pirate mollie wrote:there is not soul in nacho's posts. none nada zero.
this is a player that I have been playing with since I got here. while I do not claim to be an expert at reading him I do think I have better chance than most pple. it is not a scumread that is locked in stone, I wld really love to talk to kagami about it but I am not sure if we will have time. that is what I think of nacho at this time and why he is a scumread for me.
I don't think that my interrrrractions with Kagami arrre prrrroblematic (Kagami is deciding to give me space ffffforrrr a rrrreason, I assume).
In orrrrderrrr to worrrk with someone, you need to do morrrrre than ask them to dance. Drrrrrealmerrr has not made any attempt to rrrread me; he hasn't explained why he said me lurrrrking wasn't alignment indicative and then said it was, he hasn't rrrresponded to the wall I posted towarrrrds him, and his "oh I'll give Nacho space" to voting me affffterrrr Dunn suggested it progrrrression doesn't make any sorrrrt of sense at all."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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I'm not highlighting it because I think it's a serrrious rrrrreasons; I'm highlighting it because it's how he's pushing the strrrrongest lurrrrkerrrr rrrrrread he's experrrienced in his liffffe.In post 968, Infinity 324 wrote:
Why are you treating it like a serious reason?In post 967, Nachomamma8 wrote:the ffffact that people arrrrre buying Drrrrrealmerrr's "you will be rrrrreleased" garrrrbage is a shame."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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1) I wasn't lying about the rrrrreasons ffffforrrr my inactivity.In post 970, drealmerz7 wrote:which I knew wasn't true in both from what he'd said
2) I drrrrew scum affffterrrr that game, played just fine. I prrrefffferrr scum."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Therrrre's ourrrr scum QT. Ffffind wherrrre I went "hahaha I'm lurrrking on purrrpose!"."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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Notice how you assumed I had issues drrrawing scum; I neverrr mentioned that I was demorrralized by drrrawing scum and prrrretty obviously had a prrrretty good time as scum in that game.In post 979, drealmerz7 wrote:post #16 in that PT shows I already had foreknowledge of nacho having issues drawing scum"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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It's possible I said that in a game thrrrread.In post 982, drealmerz7 wrote:see I am active and I wouldn't be being active if I drew scum because I'm demoralized drawing scum
As scum."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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I didn't notice drealmer's crumb, nor your crumb, nor Nahdia's.In post 1082, Dunnstral wrote:Really interested in seeing what Nacho says. Wondering what his motive could be. I'm not willing to believe it's all a coincidence.
I don't think that drealmer is town for crumbing possession of a fragment of the Orb (especially since possession isn't indicative of alignment), and your idea that I'm hunting orb fragments is cute but doesn't really follow with me not actively trying to get any of those suspects lynched which Mollie will attest to and with none of those three dying.
Vote: drealmerz7
Mlem mlem"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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when i was town and too busy i used to just promise content later until i had time, mlem mlem. lately, I've been providing snippets of content when I don't have time and filling the cracks when I do have time, mlem mlem. I don't really see why this is a problem for you, especially when we've been having remarkably similar scumreads (even while you're telling me that drealmer is town and i'm not seeing past a playstyle issue you can't help but scumread him); you say that you don't understand why I'm going where I'm going and yet end in the same exact places I do; I don't think it's coincidence, I just think that we're seeing the same things and you're not seeing my process for getting there, mlem mlem.In post 1128, pirate mollie wrote:this post is some hot garbage
I think if you were town and too busy you wld rhapsodize us with beautiful sweet promises that you will post content later.
you didn't do that.
instead you pushing this very tired push on dreamz when it shld be very apparent that it is a playstyle issue. you LOVE players like that. you find them funny and entertaining and usually try to keep them mislynched. I bet you were telling the truth when you said in that games with dreamz how you were tired of rolling scum. I don't buy into the gambler's fallacy that is the crux of his reasons for thinking he is scum but I do find your reaction weird and when called you ought on your previous games you looked like caught scum and are going to do nothing but make snarky potshots from the side and push on an easy target.
there is not 1 single thing that is town about this post, there is no thought just snark aimed at dunn which is a way to discredit him and it looks like you are waiting to see where town will go wrt him cos town!you knows what town paranoia looks like. don't make me post that dreadful pirate speak post again. I mean are you gonna go back to that trajectory of dunn and dreamz are SCUM TOGETHER???? AND THAT THEY CONCOCTED THIS ENTIRE PLAN WITH THEIR WILY WAYS IN ORDER TO HOODWINK TOWN TO THE END OF THE GAME??? I am sure they are flattered that you think that they cld pull it off but I doubt that is what either of them are doing.
and you wld have to be blind not to have seen a connection the between duun/dreamz with the obvs broadcasting of what they were doing I mean I mentioned it, sad mentioned it, and a cple of other pple mentioned it was impossible to miss.
I think you are scum. it is just a matter of trying to figure out a way to get other pple to see it which will not be easy.
i do love players like drealmer, mlem mlem. that doesn't mean that i ignore them when they are scum and drealmer is scum, mlem mlem. I've seen him with scumreads before; they possess and overtake him and he pushes them with this beautiful, single-mindedness that shows he believes 100% of what he's saying and he's going to see it through until the end, mlem mlem. When we played together and I was a jester playing for town and he was town he barely had any time to play at all and yet instantly got a clear town signal the moment he engaged a single person, mlem mlem. I'm not getting that signal here, mlem mlem. Neither are you, mlem mlem. Why, mlem mlem? Is it because that rascal Nacho is bullying drealmer, mlem mlem? Or is it because I'm seeing him for what he really is, mlem mlem?
With Dunn, I laughed when I read his case, mlem mlem. I do think that it makes him town; not scum, not null, not town; only town can come up with reasoning that insane and yet dripping with that amount of conviction and I thought it was awesome, mlem mlem. I was dismissive of the case because it was something that I knew people weren't going to buy into because it's ridiculous and I figured once he got it out in the open and thought about it in the open he'd rethink his approach, mlem mlem. You and I both know that my approach to a game as scum isn't to see some wonky orb fragments floating around and then spend my entire game making half-assed pushes on all possible orb carries, mlem mlem.
i was blind to role interactions, mlem mlem. I don't know if you remember how horrible I am at picking up at PRs as scum, but that lack of talent translates to my town game, mlem mlem. I didn't think that drealmer/Dunn was because of role information; I thought Dunn/Nahdia had a weird reasonless town read on drealmer and I thought that one of them was scum and the other one was being weird, hence my "trifecta that is not all scum", mlem mlem.
You're not out of the woods yet, mlem mlem. Before you go about convincing other people that I am scum, you still need to do some work in reading me this game because you're not there yet, mlem mlem."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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Nachomamma8 Devil in the Details
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WHO DARES TREAD IN MY DOMAIN, MLEM MLEM???
CERTAINLY NOT FUCKING DREALMER; I DON'T BUY THESE PROMISES OF BIG WALLS AND BIG WOTS; THE ONLY THING I'M BUYING AND SMELLING FROM THAT DIRECTION IS FEAR, MLEM MLEM. I DON'T NEED FUCKING WALLS OF TEXT, MLEM MLEM. I DON'T NEED POSTS THAT REQUIRE THE UTMOST FOCUS AND ENERGY TO UNLEASH, MLEM MLEM. WHAT I SEEK IS TRUTH, AND DREALMER IS OBSCURING THAT BRIGHT AND SHINY TRUTH PRETTY FUCKING HARD, MLEM MLEM. IF HE TRULY POSSESSED A SCUMREAD THAT WAS AS STRONG AS THE SCUMREAD HE WAS RAMBLING ON ABOUT THEN IT WOULDN'T HAVE DISAPPEARED SO SILENTLY, MLEM MLEM. IF HE WAS TRULY SCUMREADING ME TO THAT EXTENT THEN HE WOULDN'T BE "VOTING ELSEWHERE" FOR FUNSIES; HE'D BE PUSHING ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A SCUMREAD THAT ROCKS YOUR WORLD, MLEM MLEM."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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i'm sitting here trying to read you and it's like pulling out teeth, mlem mlem. the fact that the attempt even has to be made is already a giant neon sign flashing "MURDER, MURDER", but here I am trying to read you anyways, mlem mlem.In post 1165, drealmerz7 wrote:those who pretend to judge without even seeming to try to understand are the deviants - it is obvious
but I will elaborate more, you can be sure
spyrex, please come back to me - playing murderball alone is like drinking alone and you are drinking alone right now, my friend, mlem mlem."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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i'm pretty hyped for the part of the show where the explaining happens, mlem mlem.In post 1168, drealmerz7 wrote:the only fear is here what you are mongering"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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WHO DARES TREAD IN MY DOMAIN???
THE SITUATION THAT I WAS REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY WAS THE FOLLOWING:In post 1172, pirate mollie wrote:what similar scumreads are we having? I don't even know who your scumreads ARE now that you think dunn is town? I mean are you still scumreading nahdia? I mean lets discuss THAT, cos what you are saying is not true.
and this puts me in a bind. there is phenomena going around where pple say that, "I think this cos this thing happened", when what they said happened never took place. its not just you, I see it all over the place including this game.
so tell me what scumreads we have in common, and what conclusions we are drawing that are the same. cos no, that is not what I see happening.
752. NACHO IS WALKING DOWN THE STREET. NACHO ESTABLISHES THAT HE HAS THREE SCUMREADS WHICH, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, ARE THE SAME THREE SCUMREADS THAT MOLLIE HAS BEEN PUSHING LATELY (405 WAS THAT EXACT SCUMTEAM + NACHO HIMSELF). NACHO POINTS OUT WEIRD INTERACTIONS BETWEEN THE THREE OF THEM, SAYS THAT HE'S NOT QUITE CONFIDENT THAT THEY ARE SCUM INTERACTIONS.
846: AMONG OTHER THINGS, MOLLIE TALKS ABOUT NACHO IGNORING THE DREALMER/DUNN INTERACTIONS.
THIS IS WHERE I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING IGNORED, WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE WERE DECENTLY LOCK IN STEP AND THEN YOU'RE QUESTIONING ME ABOUT THINGS THAT I'M ALREADY ANSWERING...? YOU SAID THAT I DIDN'T PICK UP THE DREALMER/DUNN INTERACTIONS OR THAT I WAS IGNORING DUNN BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO WITH THE INTERACTIONS I TALKED ABOUT IN #752. WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT HAVING SIMILAR PROGRESSIONS, I'M TALKING ABOUT TOWNREADING INFINITY FOR BEING LOST AT AROUND THE SAME TIME, I'M TALKING ABOUT TOWNREADING CAMNTSUKI AT THE SAME TIME, I'M TALKING ABOUT MOVING AGAINST ZITO AROUND THE SAME TIME (WRT ZITO, YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND MY VOTE ON HIM AT THE TIME BUT THEN SHORTLY SAID HE HAD THE PERSONALITY OF AN AVOCADO AND WAS PERFECTLY FINE WITH VOTING HIM. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WOULD VOTE HIM IF YOU HAD NO IDEA WHERE I WAS COMING FROM. EVEN NOW WHILE YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT MY DREALMER PUSH IS MERITLESS YOU'RE GETTING PARANOID OF HIM; THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I'M SAYING WE'VE HAD SIMILAR SCUMREADS THIS GAME.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHERE YOU STAND. I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHERE I STAND BEYOND DREALMER-SCUM + KAGAMI-MOLLIE-DUNN-SPYREX-CAMNTSUKI TOWN.
In post 1172, pirate mollie wrote:you mean like what he did yesterday with you? cos isn't that exactly what he did? the only thing I find suspect is that he is not saying 1 thing about it today. what looks like is going on between you is scum theatre. there is a lot of posturing, but it comes across as shallow and I feel like I am watching a performance and not a mutual exchange of cross-scumreads.
DREALMER STOPPED VOTING ME HALFWAY THROUGH THE DAY BECAUSE GOD KNOWS WHAT REASON.In post 418, drealmerz7 wrote:quit pairing me with nacho
it's just because I'm the only one calling him out and proking at him, you realize
and camn, you get my vote!!!
UNVOTE: nachomamma8
VOTE: camntsuki
you say I'm confused about a great number of things, but what you say I am right about, isn't actually what I said, that is you twisting a scumgenda via me
I did not say lurkernacho = scumnacho, that is a generalized simplified stance, and not one that I hold at all nor would ever agree to having said
AND WHEN DREALMER PUSHED ME AFTER THAT, HE TALKED ABOUT ME AND NOT TO ME.
AS I SAID BEFORE, I BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT WHEN HE MADE THE POST ABOUT HIM FEELING SORRY FOR ME BEING SCUM AGAIN AND CHEERLEADING - I THOUGHT THAT LOOKED THE SLIGHTEST BIT TOWN BUT WHEN HIS PUSH COMPLETELY FELL AWAY (WHICH IT DID, HE KEPT PUTTING CAMN ON THE SAME LEVEL AS THE "STRONGEST LURKER SCUMREAD OF HIS LIFE" WHICH IS NOT GENUINE IN ANY FORM AT ALL).
I THINK YOU CALLING HIM TOWN BECAUSE HE CRUMBED ORB FRAGMENT IS REALLY REALLY SILLY - ROLE =/= ALIGNMENT WHETHER IT IS CRUMBED OR NOT. YOU HAVE CRUMBED REAL ROLES AS SCUM BEFORE, I HAVE CRUMBED REAL ROLES AS SCUM BEFORE, WHY WOULD DREALMS AS SCUM NOT CRUMB HIS ORB FRAGMENT...?
I'M NOT SAYING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ANYTHING WAS GOING ON; AS I NOTED IN #752, I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING WEIRD NOT NECESSARILY SCUMMY GOING ON BETWEEN THOSE THREE. I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS. I DIDN'T LIKE DUNN AND NAHDIA CLEARING DREALMER FOR REASONS THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT; I DOUBTED THERE WERE MASON SHENANIGANS GOING ON SINCE MASONS DON'T TYPICALLY DEFEND PEOPLE IN SUCH A CARTOONISHLY OBVIOUS WAY, BUT THE IDEA THAT I PICKED UP ON ORB SHENANIGANS BETWEEN THOSE THREE AND PUSHED THEM PUBLICLY INSTEAD OF SHUTTING THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT AND USING WHATEVER ORB COUNTERMEASURES SCUM HAS AVAILABLE TO COLLECT SOME FRAGMENTS FOR MYSELF IS, AS I'VE ALLUDED TO BEFORE, ABSURD. IT'S ABSURD, IT'S WONKY, IT'S NOT WHO I AM AS A PLAYER OR A PERSON.In post 1172, pirate mollie wrote:I don't think you are horrible at all. I mean you say you are (last time you said this to me you were scum) but I think you have a knack for picking up on things that pple are trying to hide. you know and I know that specials tend to throw up a lot of false positives cos they want scum to know that they are a pr. but what I DO know is that you don't your play on special hunting, I just find it interesting and convenient that you just happened to pick out the 2 pple who were talking about it covertly. my guess is that scum already know about the orbs and they wld have every incentive to get them just as much as town wld cos it cld be a red herring or it cld be something important. soyeah I find it strange that you missed that entire conversation between dunn/dreamz/nahdia yet those just happened to be your suspects especially since sad and I brought it up."Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
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we are not in the same space as far as reads go anymore, mlem mlem. I still don't have a read on RC I'm comfortable with having and Staeg certainly isn't anything resembling a townread, mlem mlem. He was who I went "well I guess I'm not really THAT lost; Staeg could most certainly die a good death", mlem mlem.