In post 631, Pepchoninga wrote:Now, just to clear my words. What I say is that I see a lust for a fast lynch in some people. That doesn't necessarily make them scum, but going for not well though lynch increases the chance of a misslynch. Pressure is made to force reactions which inturn help you to get a good case. And you should not feel rushed to do that. That is what I'm saying. If there is someone who does give a lot of food to fead upon and people have come to a consensus then by all means a lynch could happen earlier. It's just we have time and we should be able to use it as we wish without necessarily making us look scummy.
In post 636, Pepchoninga wrote:That's a good point, but really if we rush everything and go after the first thing that looks scummy enough it is much easier for scum to trick clown. If you go into a discussion and pursue the situation, even if scum changes the wagon you will have enough time to spot to player that is causing this to happen. In the end it is all a matter of who is more patient and who has the better nerves.
In post 641, Garmr wrote:I also feel like I should watch mlmooney89 closely. Her reasoning why she is not voting ano is meh. Not being safe? Voting scum is always a safe bet.
I feel like screenplay is the town counter wagon at this point and atleast one scum is on him.
In post 735, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 723, Pepchoninga wrote:Yes I'm asking him would he. To see his reaction. I'm telling him to do it like Alisae.
And I've explained what him refusing to reveal and him doing it would do imo.
I can't see how would you plan a reaction test based on the fact an L1 player is going to claim or not
BTW not game related : the avatar is annadog's fault. blame her who forcibly made me join to her army!
In post 752, Frozen Angel wrote:regarding the things you asked - the choice of words - if they weren't used by mandy before would be blantly twisting and really scummy but it wasn't the case so the quations actually feel ok now.
and Mandy kindda - sligtly - contradicted herself - first she said you're scum until she finds a strong towny thing then she appeased like she has you as null and is not comfortable declaring you as town.
There is a difference between the two - that is annoying.
In post 780, Frozen Angel wrote:
I never misrepresented the game state - I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding it correctly
I'm dedicating the attention game requires as much as I can and you're request - that I should replace out means nothing to me.
In post 895, Garmr wrote:In post 885, mlmooney89 wrote:And see this is where my scum thoughts are coming up again on Grey. Bullying FA, (I'm not saying she is or isn't town I'm saying you are not playing mafia Grey you are bullying) and the whole chanting in three posts about telling us to change our votes to his vote? Childish. I really want to change my vote to him now but hell he could just be a jerk and pretty anti-town.
Honestly this post makes me feel like mlmooney is scum.
In post 920, Garmr wrote:In post 913, mlmooney89 wrote:In post 895, Garmr wrote:In post 885, mlmooney89 wrote:And see this is where my scum thoughts are coming up again on Grey. Bullying FA, (I'm not saying she is or isn't town I'm saying you are not playing mafia Grey you are bullying) and the whole chanting in three posts about telling us to change our votes to his vote? Childish. I really want to change my vote to him now but hell he could just be a jerk and pretty anti-town.
Honestly this post makes me feel like mlmooney is scum.
Why because I think he is being a jerk? Well okay then.
Still think he is a bully.
Honestly He didn't do that much to FA anyway he didn't make it personal he keeped it to ingame things only. He has a lot of faith in his reads and can come off as arrogance through.
But can you like list examples of were his being abusive to Fa and not just prideful.
Your scum because you frame him for being anti town and devaluing his comments, you make him out to be a villain ect when he did was express his views on FA when you actually read the conversation.
FA does this a lot you can see traces of her trying to get emotional and trying to start shit with the earlier engagement with me. Honestly people like you enable FA in games.
In post 1285, BigYoshiFan wrote:In post 1284, mlmooney89 wrote:I'm back. So I'm curious how many real days do these day one phases usually last in these types of games last? Cause I am really bad at day one and would like to move to day two asap. I don't know y'all and I don't know playstyles so I have to go on lynches and wagons. I'm just curious about averages here. Cause all I'm seeing is baseless arguing on multiple fronts.
Deadline: (expired on 2017-01-16 14:00:00)
In post 1295, Pepchoninga wrote:In post 1286, mlmooney89 wrote:Well I know srceenplay and Grey enough but that isn't getting me anywhere. I've explained that this isn't srceenplay playing like his normal town self and that doesn't seem to matter. Grey is unpredictable so I can't do much with him either. I'm willing to lynch just about anyone at this point. Well I reckon I think FB is my best town lean still so maybe not him.
Even tho you entered the scene later, this used as an excuse is bad and suspicious. You cannot judge somebody's playing style of another game they have played. People change there metas and also they sometimes experiment. So it doesn't really matter if you know the people here that well. All you really need to do is read people's actions and create opinions. Then persue those opinions.
Honestly you won't know anyone better if you don't start being more active in the discussion. I doubt that the lynch we end up having today and the night kill will help you understand people.
In post 1318, Firebringer wrote:Yep, he did.
Key replaced out as scum all the time.
In post 1335, -Grey- wrote:From my experience, the more content scum creates, the more opportunities they have to get caught.
In post 1336, PantherPunt wrote:Do you think that among those with a high post count, some are particularly fluffy and others particularly solvey?
In post 1656, mlmooney89 wrote:I have a few newbie to this site questions;
Alt- I was thinking that means you have more than one account. Is that correct? If so I just read RC's sig (mostly ignore those) and it says titus. One is a he and one is a she. Are you the same person in my last game?
So this is a normal game... does that mean we can have more than one of certain roles or that they will be slightly different but same main role?
In post 1695, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 1688, mlmooney89 wrote:In post 1656, mlmooney89 wrote:I have a few newbie to this site questions;
Alt- I was thinking that means you have more than one account. Is that correct? If so I just read RC's sig (mostly ignore those) and it says titus. One is a he and one is a she. Are you the same person in my last game?
So this is a normal game... does that mean we can have more than one of certain roles or that they will be slightly different but same main role?
Bumping so I can at least get an answer to the certain roles. I might change my votes based on this answer.
alt means seconadary account yes. Titus and RC are two different people and that sig is a joke lol. (I know them and they are separate people - trust me)
In post 2247, Alisae wrote:I'm down for either of the following:
Gamma, RC, Ano, or mlooney.
In post 2275, Garmr wrote:
UNVOTE: mlmooney
If you are a cop you are the worst cop ever. It was pretty obvious I was town day 1 to nearly everyone what a waste of a investigation if you are one.
In post 2280, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yeah sure but come on there's not a weak vanilla cop a watcher and a cop variant in the same game.
In post 2323, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 2320, Anotora wrote:Supposing Pepcho flips green (and that's a pretty big SUPPOSE) he'll either be vanilla (lynch Garmr because Garmr lied about an investigative result) or a PR that could reasonably have been applied to -Grey- N1 (lynch RC).
I just explained why this logic sucks
...
wtf
In post 2023, mlmooney89 wrote:With those wagons I'm thinking I will back off srceenplay. He didn't vote for SAJ despite it being a town wagon, which Anotora did as well.
I will also clear Garmr.
Grey and SAJ turned out town so there goes my other scum radar.
That leaves FB (which I find town), RC, Alisae, Pep, and FA on the lynch wagon.
FA was on everyone except Pep
RC & Alisae was on everyone so I'm leaning town
Pep was on no one but the lynch
I know someone else made the prior wagons list so before I start accusing anyone I would like to look at the votes myself. Unfortunately this flip happened right before I'm going home for the night and I don't think I can get that kind of data on my phone, I will see if I cant get my laptop out.
In post 2339, Garmr wrote:In post 2338, mlmooney89 wrote:Screw you, just because I didn't trust you doesn't make me bad. I wasn't risking my investigation on RC or Grey. It was between you, Pep, and FA and honestly I didn't like you the most. At least now you got Pep and I can clear you so it worked out.
Lets ignore the fact that I was obvious town for a second.
Even if you scum read me you shouldn't of investigated me and saved it for someone null. If it's someone null and they turned out town you wouldn't have any suspicion drawn to your role if you put them into the town pile suddenly (as long as you put a bs excuse up). But in the case that happened you didn't make up a reason to call me town, instead you said "garmr cleared" that's pretty obvious for anyone that reads it.
I just noticed that your new and all so it's understandable you don't know the way cops played the best way. I made similar mistakes when I was new to.
So
1. Make up bull shit reasoning why you think their town to make it harder for scum to realize it's a cop clear when you die town can figure it out.
2. Don't investigate scum reads lynch them it's better to figure out null reads or hard reads for you.
In post 2341, Garmr wrote:Calls people assholes when they offer advice. Pretty much calls town assholes when they do a none emotional response -grey-. Self projecting much.
Sure your not new to mafia but that's like saying i'm not new to league of legends so I can be diamond (after 100 normal games). The fact that 2339 was meant to be nice and helpful not sarcastic.
In post 2343, Frozen Angel wrote:Mandy I was screaming for a vig shot to get conf town to make grey check meaningful
You should have targeted me obviously
In post 2591, Frozen Angel wrote:Unfourtunatly that logic is faulty Mandy
In post 2811, Alisae wrote:Let me explain why mlmooney, Garmr, RC could be a potental scumteam.
Let's say Grey really did want to visit RC. And the scumteam kills him for it.
Garmr fakeclaims watcher and frames Pep.
To make it even more real, mlmooney fakeclaims cop to clear Garmr. This also makes sense for it to be fake because there really isn't a reason to investigate Garmr when you could investgate Ano or Me.
A fakeclaim watcher here makes perfect sense. The scumteam has an idea who they are going to visit. And making an assumption that no one is going to visit Grey besides FA is a safe assumption.
So they roleblock FA.
And we're pairing up RC here because they're trying to protect him cuz he'll be an easy lynch.
Basicly they fakeclaim cop and watcher to frame pep and attempt to get pep lynched.
In post 2813, Alisae wrote:Hell if I didn't come up with this theory, I would not be surprised if RC was "cleared" by mlmooney tomorrow.
In post 2812, Alisae wrote:Pep you need to claim, like, in your next post.
In post 2874, Alisae wrote:To me it doesn't make sense why Garmr would watch Grey over you.
In post 2875, Frozen Angel wrote:He had no townread on me
and he has no townread on me still
if he was on me we could get the rb instead of pep - best possible senario was mandy checking me and garmr watching greythis whole crap would have been sorted then
In post 3366, PantherPunt wrote:In post 3357, mlmooney89 wrote:I have literally thought everyone except PantherPunt was scum at some point this game so I'm not really trusting anyone right now.
2. PantherPunt- didn't help lynch town D1, voted for Pep and not on the town wagon D2, Didn't vote D4... I'm going to say lean heavy town.
3. Srceenplay- I am going back and forth here.
5. Gamma Emerald- FA said his part doesn't work in this game and she turned up right about being town and a few role things so I'm willing to lynch on that alone.
6. Alisae- Went over the voting and he was on the end of the wagons and not on pep's at all but a lot of people were against lynching the scum. I also keep thinking back to the fake lynch he did. Why would scum push a townie to claim?
9. RadiantCowbells- Town
12. Firebringer- Miller; willing to lynch
just an FYI, using the info that someone didn't help lynch town is not a town indicator. town is uninformed and often wrong. mafia is informed and because people think things like this, they'll often avoid being on a mislynch wagon if there are competing town wagons or there is otherwise no need for their vote to accomplish a mislynch.
also, the question you ask at the end of the alisae line - "why would scum push a townie to claim." this should be very very apparent, no? scum know alignments but not roles. knowing roles helps them decide who to target with their actions and their kill and who not to target
p-edit: I wrote this a while ago and never submitted before getting distracted by work.
In post 3614, RadiantCowbells wrote:If Mlmooney hammers I want her instalynched tomorrow regardless of flip. Don't do that shit.
In post 3639, Firebringer wrote:VOTE: mooney
if this flips town, lynch me tomorrow. Idc.
I think based on fact scum hasn't killed them, the fact their clears end up dying, and setup spec they are scum.
In post 3648, Firebringer wrote:Grey essentially was an alignment cop (even though it was weak he could still use to clear townies).
You don't put two in a 13 player game.
In post 3759, Srceenplay wrote:In post 3756, mlmooney89 wrote:Alright audit is done.
2. PantherPunt- Getting pushed to talk which makes me wonder if he walked into a scum role. But him personally I don’t see as scum. Leaning more town but on the fence.
3. Srceenplay- suspected him at first but kinda thinking I might have been wrong. On the fence here.
5. Elena Fisher- Waiting for more of a read but my vote will go here if I don’t see anything convincing.
6. Alisae- The whole fake hammer thing makes me doubt he is scum but I would vote him after dealing with Elena and FB.
9. RadiantCowbells Town
12. Firebringer- Willing to lynch on miller status has nothing to do with FB himself. I don’t know where I would lean on him without that claim.
Elena
FB
Alisae
Srceenplay
PantherPunt
RC
It sounds as if you are saying you are reading everyone nullish but RC. Am I wrong.
In post 1688, mlmooney89 wrote:In post 1656, mlmooney89 wrote:I have a few newbie to this site questions;
Alt- I was thinking that means you have more than one account. Is that correct? If so I just read RC's sig (mostly ignore those) and it says titus. One is a he and one is a she. Are you the same person in my last game?
So this is a normal game... does that mean we can have more than one of certain roles or that they will be slightly different but same main role?
Bumping so I can at least get an answer to the certain roles. I might change my votes based on this answer.
In post 1696, mlmooney89 wrote:##"Normal Games may use any amount of approved roles (so long as there is at least one Vanilla Townie) in conjunction with approved modifiers."
Cool that means we can have more than one. Okies then, thank you.
Damn I had quotes saved for after I got my answers but I lost them when I bumped it. Guess I will go back for them.
In post 3975, Firebringer wrote:In post 3974, mlmooney89 wrote:You are driving me crazy FB.
My name is Mandy L Mooney. In no way shape or form is it looney. Can you please try a little harder at least when voting me?
people think your scum and bussing but what you care about is how your name is spelt?
you are odd.