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Post Post #850  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:25 pm

It's all PoE.
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Post Post #851  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:26 pm

tbh by PoE scum is Hiraki-PsychoticDave, but I'm not that sure.
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Post Post #852  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:28 pm

>human
>scum is hiraki-psychoticdave

>umlaut
>scum is hiraki-psychoticdave

>creature
>scum is hiraki-psychoticdave

come on guys if this goes over deadline i'll be seriously peeved off
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Post Post #853  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:30 pm

In post 487, Grendel wrote:PsychoticDave

My belief is firmly that he is a either mafia, or not a chosen townie. This is stemmed from his poor iso, he can’t be a chosen one if he were making bad posts such as:
Spoiler:
In post 34, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 33, Creature wrote:Don't vote Human, vote Human Sequencer (or maybe HS).

You have the absolutely worst reasoning for putting Human at L-1 on P1.
I'm convinced you're bad scum.


In post 184, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 183, Tenshii wrote:
In post 169, Vedith wrote:Feelbad to those with less posts than mod.

Bwahahahaha.

@Dave why are you scumreading Vedith? If you still are?

@Misa why do you scumread Creature?

I never said I was scumreading Vedith. I just don't like playing with Vedith.


In post 186, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 185, Tenshii wrote:Then do you have reads?

Alternatively, I don't understand any townreads on Dave.

Nope.


In post 326, PsychoticDave wrote:I've still said all I have to say.
I'm just waiting for the day to end.

He uses the god awful, "Well their either scum or bad town" argument. Voting people just because he doesn't like them. Cutting of discussion -multiple times-.Then he just throws in the towel. The rest of his posts are him repeating how he wants the day to end plus necked votes to show just how "done" he is with this day. Scum would rip him apart for dinner in he were one of the chosen ones. This suggests to me that he is either mafia, or not chosen town since scum are ignoring lynch bait for their preferred, "chosen", targets. Which frankly, is why I think he is the ideal lynch for today.

His behavior also reminds me a lot of a newbie game I was in were my scum buddy acted overtly antitown on D1 in the most ham-fisted way he could muster. He outright refuse to scum hunt, preached about the statistical unlikeness that town lynches scum D1, and the all D1 lynches are basically random. He cruised into lylo by being so vocally unhelpful, and I’m seeing a parallel here with Dave. Dave complains how there is nothing going on, then ironically refuses to add new content to the table, then talks about wanting to end the day.

These things are so unhelpful that town is all writing it off as too brazen to come from scum. When it Is all so over the top that it feels, and looks completely intentional to me!


COME ON GUYS

4 PEOPLE

ONE CONFIRMED TOWN

WE CAN'T ALL BE SCUM
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Post Post #854  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:31 pm

In post 484, nn30 wrote:@Grendel - I mean, I'm okay with a Dave lynch.

Thing is people are going to read my complying to you as scummy (opportunism! look at that desire to stay alive! must be scum!)

Dunno what to do about it, but here we are. Hopefully my dislike of Dave's posts prior to this speak for themselves.

VOTE: Dave

Why, if I'm your top scum read, are you advocating for me to vote Dave instead? Wouldn't you just want to off me and get it over with?

JUST PUTTIN' THIS HERE
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Post Post #855  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:34 pm

creature and tenshii, i'm having massive wave flashbacks atm tbh
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Post Post #856  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:35 pm

Okay, what's the VC?
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Post Post #857  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:36 pm

Note that we don't need to hammer, we can lynch PsychoticDave leaving him as the top wagon until deadline passes.
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Post Post #858  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:36 pm

In post 833, ChaosOmega wrote:Votecount 2.04

Tenshii (2) - Hiraki, Ümläüt
Human Sequencer (1) - PsychoticDave
PsychoticDave (1) - Human Sequencer
Hiraki (1) - Tenshii

Not Voting (2) - Creature, TTTT

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2017-01-12 11:27:46)

+Umlaut makes Dave on 2/4 atm
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Post Post #859  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:37 pm

I'd leave PsychoticDave at L-1 so he can't switch his vote to someone else to save himself.
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Post Post #860  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Okay

VOTE: Dave
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Post Post #861  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Deadline shouldn't even be in the equation tbh
Games reaching deadline are egh
Games reaching deadline twice are double egh
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Post Post #862  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:42 pm

Tenshii looks worse once Dave flips red than he does now, so I'd rather save the case for then since people get all uppity about pre-flip associational reasoning.
“Of course it's my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything.”

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Post Post #863  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:47 pm

I'd rather lynch hiraki
if dave is town he's more likey chosen than hiraki is chosen if he is town
and I think dave is a scum-planned day2or3 mis-lynch since he first opened his mouth back in day1
and if he's town once he has three votes scum will do nothing until deadline

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Post Post #864  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:48 pm

In post 849, TTTT wrote:@Umlaut
badtown!Dave makes more sense than badscum!Dave

I just don't see it. But granting this point arguendo, it's still true that Dave is not the sort of player we want hanging around for lylo, or the sort of player the Mafia is going to kill for us.

Anyway, explain again why bad town makes an impossible fakeclaim, then retracts it, then tries to find some sort of middle ground between retracting it and not.
“Of course it's my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything.”

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Post Post #865  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:49 pm

TTTT, what is your read on Human Sequencer? I will explain the relevance of this question after you answer.
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Post Post #866  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:49 pm

Creature too, while you're at it.
“Of course it's my fault. There's no one else here who could be responsible for anything.”

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Post Post #867  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:51 pm

@Umlaut
Creature-Human-Tenshii are my TRs

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Post Post #868  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:51 pm

TTTT, there is no fucking way Dave is chosen unless you buy into scumHuman.
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Post Post #869  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:53 pm

In post 864, Ümläüt wrote:I just don't see it. But granting this point arguendo, it's still true that Dave is not the sort of player we want hanging around for lylo, or the sort of player the Mafia is going to kill for us.

Anyway, explain again why bad town makes an impossible fakeclaim, then retracts it, then tries to find some sort of middle ground between retracting it and not.

from :
scum would be more aware of the mechanics in this set-up than town...
town not realizing that Chosen aren't notified of their role is more likely than scum not realizing that Chosen aren't notified of their role

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Post Post #870  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:54 pm

So, let's talk about the Mafia's win condition. They absolutely must get a chosen townie lynched, or else they lose, period. Thus if there is a wagon on a chosen townie, they ought to be doing whatever it takes to push it short of totally outing themselves.

If Dave is chosen, why are town!Human and town!Creature having such a hard time pushing his wagon?

Pedit: Ninja'd by Human.

Pedit again: TTTT, that's not an answer to a "why" question.
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Post Post #871  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:00 pm

In post 868, Human Sequencer wrote:TTTT, there is no fucking way Dave is chosen unless you buy into scumHuman.


why does everyone think scum would hard-push chosen town?
if I'm scum this game I'm trying to stay off any chosen wagons
or at least not try and push too much
if Dave flips Chosen I'm TRing Human so hardd

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Post Post #872  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:01 pm

In post 871, TTTT wrote:if I'm scum this game I'm trying to stay off any chosen wagons
or at least not try and push too much

Then if you're scum this game you'll lose, because you can't win without getting a CT lynched.
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Post Post #873  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:11 pm

Scum just have to feed town to lynch the Chosen.
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Post Post #874  (ISO)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:17 pm

I just remembered the game is plurality lynch, so it might make more sense for scum to stay off a chosen wagon than it would otherwise. I still think, particularly halfway through the day when anything could still happen, they'd rather jump on it, but I'll concede it's not necessary.
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