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Post Post #34 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:02 am

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It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.

All aboard choo choo choo.

Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:06 am

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VOTE: Firebringer

Firebringer would never have failed to vote draw with me.
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Post Post #44 (isolation #2) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:07 am

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>still hasn't voted draw
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Post Post #59 (isolation #3) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:14 am

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In post 48, Firebringer wrote:
In post 45, Anotora wrote:
In post 36, Firebringer wrote:
In post 34, RadiantCowbells wrote: Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.
What if we are both miller? O_o
It's much, much likelier that one of you two is scum.
I am pretty sure rc is joking,
I am legit miller but I think he thinks I am fake claiming
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no draw vote.

This isn't even just scum!Firebringer. He was guised. Powerlynch ASAP.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #4) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:15 am

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Also, FA, if you really cared about me you would roll town this game.
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Post Post #63 (isolation #5) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:16 am

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Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:24 am

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In post 66, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 63, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.
I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie. What makes you think I'm scummy?
It's because you do things and look at things by the book, using the site meta as a manual. It feels either scummy or newbie but I guess it's possible that you just approach things like that?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:30 pm

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In post 74, Garmr wrote:I don't know with rc I feel like he would be the type to counter claim a miller as both alignments.

@rc

I agree with you about peppy feeling weird but I haven't made a judgement alignment it is through I could describe it. He just doesn't seem to want to get to deep into things. Everything feels superficial like it could be tossed aside latter in the game. It's early game through so I wouldn't expect to much and peps actually is a newbie so yeh.
I agree. I'm just trying to be far more transparent with my thought processes as part of a braoder attempt to change my playstyle.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 1:05 pm

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Umm no, that's not what I said at all. I said he's scum because he didn't vote to draw with me, not because he didn't vote me.
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Post Post #284 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:04 pm

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I'm confused by your townread on me but I am also a huge nonfan of Anotora. So.

VOTE: Anotora
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Post Post #286 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:05 pm

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I really hate 279 as well. It feels squarely what I would expect from Pepchoninga if they were scumbuddies. Also could just be scum in general.

I was townreading some earlier posts though.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #11) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:13 pm

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It was very, very waffly and that was the majority of that shit.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #12) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:17 pm

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I really want Garmr to be town because I feel like if he is this will be both fun and an easy town sweep.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #13) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:19 pm

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In post 294, Pepchoninga wrote:Kinda don't understand what you meant by waffy, but I guess you thought my arguments were shit. I understand, it was just what popped in my head first and since people were very keen on the guy and I hadn't really gathered a good opinion troughout reading his post on the way I desided to reread his ISO and others cases to make a statement on the situation.
No, not shit. It's that they lacked direction and you didn't have a clear thought process and that's very common for scum.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #14) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:23 pm

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Doesn't feel that way. 279 feels extremely 'hey guys I need to say my buddy is scummy then start talking about other people' on top of the waffle.
For some reason RC's avi reminds me of Metal Sonic. I never actually played with Metal Sonic but I heard stories about him
Metal Sonic adapted my Annie avi at one point. He was a pretty cool dude. Are you a pretty cool dude?
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Post Post #302 (isolation #15) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:26 pm

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Don't talk to me like we're strangers man. If your only reason to scumread me is 'badge makes me paranoid!' then you should know it's hardly worth mentioning at all.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:27 pm

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Okay then. See what I'm saying about Pepto?
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Post Post #306 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:31 pm

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I am leaning town on Screenplay and am extremely opposed to the wagon.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:32 pm

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I don't see any reason to scumread him. You are voting so you obviously do. Why is he scum?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #19) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:35 pm

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You are saying that Screenplay is scum because they haven't posted reasoning and aren't really doing much. I disagree.

I certainly think they might be scum but this feels less tactical and more just generally being an obnoxious player at this point and when we have major scumlords A and B to look into I don't want to see a wagon on them. If they continue to be useless we can vote them to force content but I am not in any rush to do so at this time.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #20) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:39 pm

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It's shitty but it's not shitty as in scummy it's shitty as in shitty. I see no particular reason to scumread them for their play thus far.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:43 pm

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Towny:
Garmr
Firebringer

Leantown?:
Screenplay

Kind of sort of leaning scum?:
Alisae

Ehhscum:
Frozen Angel

Scummy:
Anotoro, Pepchoninga
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Post Post #319 (isolation #22) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:46 pm

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In post 284, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm confused by your townread on me but I am also a huge nonfan of Anotora. So.

VOTE: Anotora
Also, are you seriously claiming that you didn't realize that my Firebringer vote was a troll vote?
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Post Post #321 (isolation #23) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:47 pm

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That's fucking gross dude.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #24) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:49 pm

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I'm pretty confident in my abilities.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #25) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:52 pm

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Oh yeah @Garmr

So it's a really common thing that I've seen for scum to do to bring up how their buddy is scum then start addressing someone lynchbaity and vote them. I've heard it expressed as 'FoS a buddy and lynch a townie' although I heard that from MoI who was using it horribly inappropriately and nearly lost me that game so I'd rather use a different word for it. At any rate it felt like he was trying to play lip service to considering that wagon while continuing to try to lynch town.

I don't want you to be sorry I want an in depth explanation of why you thought it was scummy that I was still voting Firebringer.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #26) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:55 pm

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In post 327, Alisae wrote:
In post 326, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't want you to be sorry I want an in depth explanation of why you thought it was scummy that I was still voting Firebringer.
Okay. It's scummy that you were voting Fire because I don't see how it makes logical sense to be voting a townread.
Also that vote could have probably been in RVS in which case, mybad.
Okay, so it's illogical. Why is it
SCUMMY
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SCUM
be apt to be voting Firebringer for a reason that
TOWN
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Post Post #330 (isolation #27) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:00 pm

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I find it really weird that you remembered that my vote was on Firebringer but claim to not realize that the vote happened in an early stage of the game nor that it wasn't serious nor that my vote changed.

I can believe that you forgot that my vote changed but that just makes this feel like you fishing for reasons to vote someone.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #28) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:04 pm

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Why does this come off as buddying RC?
Umm, because it is buddying. It's actually making me pretty uncomfortable, not necessarily because I think Grey's scum but because I just don't like it.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:08 pm

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In post 340, -Grey- wrote:
In post 336, RadiantCowbells wrote:
Why does this come off as buddying RC?
Umm, because it is buddying. It's actually making me pretty uncomfortable, not necessarily because I think Grey's scum but because I just don't like it.
Hey, you took a familiar tone with me first.
I did but that's not the same as making post after post glorifying the legendary RC and his multifaceted achievements. I do like your pepto vote but can you vote anotora with us for now?
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Post Post #352 (isolation #30) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:14 pm

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Alright, I'm going to bed. This is a nice wagon. Also, Alisae, if you are not scum then you are not helping atm.
Having read Ano's ISO I have a slight SR on him.
Did you know that a notoriously common place for newbscum to give a read about their buddies is nullscum/slight scumread?
They're often afraid to defend their buddies outright but also don't want to bus outright so they say they're pretty scummy but vote 'bigger' scumreads.
Do you think she is scum this game?
I read it. I think she might be but I'm not very sure about that read. I'm pretty sure I will develop a confident read on her as the game goes on.
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Post Post #364 (isolation #31) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:33 pm

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Interactions between those two but too tired so I'll go to bed without reading them.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #32) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:21 am

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In post 492, keyenpeydee wrote:Why people are so aggressive
ARE YOU A FUCKING SCUMLORD YOU SCUMLORD WEEB LOVING LIBERTY HATING PILLOW PUNCHING DOMINO TIPPING SAC OF SUDS?
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Post Post #511 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 507, Firebringer wrote:
In post 504, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 492, keyenpeydee wrote:Why people are so aggressive
ARE YOU A FUCKING SCUMLORD YOU SCUMLORD WEEB LOVING LIBERTY HATING PILLOW PUNCHING DOMINO TIPPING SAC OF SUDS?
You are so passive scrub, why don't you grow a pair and put on the gloves and we will do a boxing match with words you scrub
Shut the fuck up you worthless miller your face can be used as a pencil sharpener by a tibetan monk.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #34) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:34 am

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In post 516, Firebringer wrote:
In post 511, RadiantCowbells wrote:Shut the fuck up you worthless miller your face can be used as a pencil sharpener by a tibetan monk.
Tibetan monks don't use pencils you dumbass.
god why don't you go play some simpler game for your little brain to handle.
Maybe tic tac toe is more down your alley
Oh yeah well I had consensual carnal interactions with the vast majority of your family members on Christmas Day you salty slug.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #35) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:40 am

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Frozen Angel is not my lover.
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one.
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son
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Post Post #539 (isolation #36) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:42 am

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I still think at least 1/2 of the pair are scum but I'm not quite convinced that both are. Fine with my current vote for now though.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #37) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:44 am

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In post 531, Frozen Angel wrote:RC play with me!

BTW everyone, If I ever disappeared middle of conversations don't be surprised. I have someone in RL who I must take care of.
What is your read on me?
:O RC

Are you drunk?

That post went in a very dark direction. why you tried to take it there

and no we have no personal relationships or problem. he is just messing around
No it's just a Michael Jackson song =[
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Post Post #546 (isolation #38) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:46 am

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Weren't you voting and pushing Screenplay?
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Post Post #573 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:20 am

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And no, don't take me wrong, it's just that since I have huge respect for females and sometimes it really bugs me off when I have to read them in a game like that.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:34 am

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I think that Grey is just trolling you.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:36 am

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I am inclined to believe that Alisae is town. I'm also -very slightly- inclined to believe that Grey is town.

Conversely scum brigade is still scum brigading.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:41 am

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I'm not lynching you today FA. If you are in fact town then just focus on scumhunting.
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Post Post #596 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:46 am

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Why do you dislike it Alisae?

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #642 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:36 pm

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I mean 27 pages isn't a bad day 1. I could lynch Anotora already, but I do want time to give more detailed reads since I'm probably getting cthunked day 1.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:23 pm

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VOTE: Antora

Cheesecake.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #46) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:44 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #736 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:19 am

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UNVOTE:

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Post Post #825 (isolation #48) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:27 am

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VOTE: Pepchoninga

I think this is a slightly better wagon than Anotora although I'm still reasonably okay with both being scum.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #49) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:31 am

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Chainsaw on who? Pepcho? where?
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Post Post #841 (isolation #50) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:36 am

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In post 837, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 833, RadiantCowbells wrote:Chainsaw on who? Pepcho? where?
RC are you reading my posts?

why are you ignoring me?
I am reading your posts but I don't want to lynch you today despite your complete conformity to your scum meta because I don't want to lynch you today.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:38 am

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I will be slightly lurking until tomorrow because I have things to do today.

Tomorrow I'll read everything and get a clearer picture of what's going on.
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Post Post #848 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:40 am

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In post 846, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 841, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 837, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 833, RadiantCowbells wrote:Chainsaw on who? Pepcho? where?
RC are you reading my posts?

why are you ignoring me?
I am reading your posts but I don't want to lynch you today despite your complete conformity to your scum meta because I don't want to lynch you today.
This post...
IE, I lynched FA in steven universe when I was confident she was scum and hated the rest of the game. FA lives for today at least.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:41 am

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In post 847, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 841, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am reading your posts but I don't want to lynch you today despite your complete conformity to your scum meta because I don't want to lynch you today.
I'm not scum and this is not my scum meta

but ok

VOTE: Frozen Angel

I'm voting myself instead of you. Like if thats what it takes to put aside whatever crap everyone are assuming about my meta - that makes playing mafia practically impossible and very annoying - then so be it.

Don't let grey go after me

I will prod doge from this point.
I am not lynching you today. Grandiose gestures like this won't convince me you're town and don't engender me to lynch Gray after you either.

If you want me to change my read on you or gray I want you to post a readslist and fully clarify your reads on both of the people I've been pushing as a scumblock, Atropoa or w/e and Pepcho.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:44 am

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In post 851, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 845, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be slightly lurking until tomorrow because I have things to do today.

Tomorrow I'll read everything and get a clearer picture of what's going on.
Ok, just answer me one thing.

Have you been busy all of the days? Cuz you have been inconsistent in your votes and let's not say you haven't really done anything.

You voted Ano 2 times and then unvoted him in the span of a page or max 2 without reason for either. Then you vote me saying it's a better wagon. You seem opportunistic.
I'm so opportunistic that I've ignored the potential for an FA wagon when if I was scum:

1) If she was town, I'd hate to spend the game trying to fool her and deal with her emotional reactions so I'd rather lynch her early.
2) If she was scum with me, I've never actually bussed FA, which I've wanted to, and there's a strong enough townbloc this game to get away with doing so.

Further, I unvoted you before Gray, when you were at l-1, then even took the time to double check it. And I don't play opportunistically as scum either.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #55) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 854, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 852, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am not lynching you today. Grandiose gestures like this won't convince me you're town and don't engender me to lynch Gray after you either.

If you want me to change my read on you or gray I want you to post a readslist and fully clarify your reads on both of the people I've been pushing as a scumblock, Atropoa or w/e and Pepcho.
You are and you will

I don;t want to cnvince you I'm town. I'm not a doll to be played with. If you scumread me - and obviously you won't ever gonna change you're vote then so be it.

like who cares ;)
I care. This kind of sour, heavy handed emotional manipulation, regardless of alignment, is why I stopped playing mafia in the first place and is detracting from my enjoyment of the game.

I am not voting you, I am not ignoring your posts, I am not treating you like a doll.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #56) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:47 am

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In post 858, -Grey- wrote:The more Pepto tires to discredit Moocow, the more I townread him.
Please tell me this is sarcasm.
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Post Post #863 (isolation #57) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:49 am

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In post 851, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 845, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be slightly lurking until tomorrow because I have things to do today.

Tomorrow I'll read everything and get a clearer picture of what's going on.
Ok, just answer me one thing.

Have you been busy all of the days? Cuz you have been inconsistent in your votes and let's not say you haven't really done anything.

You voted Ano 2 times and then unvoted him in the span of a page or max 2 without reason for either. Then you vote me saying it's a better wagon. You seem opportunistic.
That's funny because I think it's incredibly consistent. I'm wavering on my Ano vote so I jump to another wagon and say it's better. Bam, perfectly logical.
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Post Post #871 (isolation #58) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:52 am

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Ano might still be town but I would be absolutely shocked if Pepcho's current page is anything besides scum flail.

FA, I'm perfectly open to reconsidering and I have done so several times in the past. Remember the game with the east side and west side neighbourhoods?

Just keep playing the game and if you're town I'm confident I will figure it out at some point.
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Post Post #891 (isolation #59) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:19 am

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I don't think it's fair or reasonable for you to say that I have no intention of changing my read on you after how many times that I've done so.
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Post Post #897 (isolation #60) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:30 am

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I didn't ask you to be. I just asked you to do your best to play the game.
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Post Post #899 (isolation #61) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:34 am

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No, sorry, I can't do that.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:21 pm

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I need a votecount.
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:18 pm

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I'm somewhat weary of this day phase. Can we just lynch Pepto now?
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #64) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:34 pm

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No, I just don't particularly care. We can deal with his slot tomorrow.
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Post Post #1353 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:07 pm

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SAJ is the scum counterwagon to the lynch on Pepchoninga.
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Anotora (L-2) - Garmr, Srceenplay, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, Frozen Angel

Srceenplay (L-4) - Pepchoninga, Alisae, Firebringer

-Grey- (L-6) - Obvious Alt
Pepchoninga (L-6) - Anotora


Not Voting (3): mlmooney89, kentofan, keyenpeydee

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Anotora (L-2) - Garmr, Srceenplay, RadiantCowbells, -Grey-, Frozen Angel

Pepchoninga (L-4) - Anotora, Alisae, keyenpeydee

Srceenplay (L-6) - Firebringer
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Not Voting (3): mlmooney89, kentofan, Pepchoninga

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With 13 votes available, it takes 7 to lynch.

Anotora (L-2) - Garmr, Srceenplay, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Alisae

Srceenplay (L-4) - Firebringer, Pepchoninga, mlmooney89

-Grey- (L-6) - Obvious Alt
Pepchoninga (L-6) - Anotora

Not Voting (3): kentofan, keyenpeydee, RadiantCowbells

Firebringer is V/LA until January 9th


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With 13 votes available, it takes 7 to lynch.

Pepchoninga (L-3) - Anotora, RadiantCowbells, Garmr, Secret Agent Jin

Secret Agent Jin (L-3) - Frozen Angel, Alisae, -Grey-, Firebringer

Srceenplay (L-6) - mlmooney89
-Grey- (L-6) - Obvious Alt
Alisae (L-6) - Srceenplay

Not Voting (3): PantherPunt, Pepchoninga

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Attempt to lynch Pepchoninga? Massive counterwagon out of nowhere on a towny slot.

Grey, get off of SAJ, the fuck. Do you really think that FA is going to this much effort to bus a slot like that?
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #67) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:11 pm

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And don't get me wrong: I think that Key's play pre-replace out was pretty scummy but I'm fine with SAJ's play so far.

Get your asses back on Pepchoninga.
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:21 pm

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Because you discredit my posts, agree with my reasoning, and then next time I post you discredit the same crap. It's been well established why I'm on you and you agreed that my reasoning was fine but now that it's up again you're calling me scum for it again.
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:25 pm

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I need to check on FA's vote on SAJ but your desire to look to me instead of vote your counterwagon is making me wonder if these are competing scum v scum wagons.
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Post Post #1363 (isolation #70) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:31 pm

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No, SAJ's two slots are the ones who could be dumb town. Pepchoninga is pure unadulterated scum motivation through and through.
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Post Post #1369 (isolation #71) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:35 pm

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In post 1364, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1359, RadiantCowbells wrote:I need to check on FA's vote on SAJ but your desire to look to me instead of vote your counterwagon is making me wonder if these are competing scum v scum wagons.
I've stated why I haven't hopped on my counter wagon yet. It is my way of playing and I won't betray it.
That wasn't directed at you because you need to claim to be town. It was directed at others in terms of discussing how scum!Pepcho is seeing the game.

The real thing I need to check is FA although I 100% could see her powerlynching her buddy for a town leader position when her other buddy is on the line.
You basically discredit everything I have done, am I right?
In a manner of speaking, yes. But you have failed to poke holes in my claimed town motivation despite trying then giving up repeatedly.
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Post Post #1370 (isolation #72) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:37 pm

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Okay tell you what FB. Tonight before I go to bed I will reread the entire game and get my nullreads more coherent and then I'll tell you what I think.
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Post Post #1376 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:17 pm

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In post 1372, -Grey- wrote:I have a lot more faith in Jin flipping scum than Pepto.

And when he does, it will pretty much clear Pepto.
Whatever reasoning you use to come to that conclusion is bad reasoning.
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Post Post #1416 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:06 pm

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In post 1413, Alisae wrote:And now Panther, because you refused to look at his ISO so I could lead you through my train of thought, we might not get along.
Because believe it or not, I want to work with you. Immediately saying "Don't direct me, tell me" tells me "I don't want to work with you."
I don't see how that train of thought is coming from town you.
You're assuming that both 1) Town aren't likely to be not wanting to work with you and that 2) Scum are.
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #75) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:06 pm

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Like Alisae if this were last year I would probably try to policy lynch you because I don't agree with any of your reads and you're getting on my nerves. I'm not surprised people wouldn't want to work with you.
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Post Post #1419 (isolation #76) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:08 pm

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Okay that was unnecessarily mean and harsh and I take that back. But I just think that your posting style is just kind of... idk.
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:12 pm

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Mostly you saying that you'd be willing to lynch me. I'm really, really tired of being pushed on for no and/or terrible reasons.
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:27 pm

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I don't care who is town and who is scum, I am not spending my time in this game defending myself. vote me or don't.
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Post Post #1442 (isolation #79) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:34 pm

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In post 1441, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1439, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't care who is town and who is scum, I am not spending my time in this game defending myself. vote me or don't.
Why do you think we'd vote you today?

Jin is the lynch today, because key doomed his slot AND he lined up my mislynch for d2 in his Pepto vote which will pretty much clear Pepto on his red flip.
terrible reasoning.
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #80) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:36 pm

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In post 1444, Frozen Angel wrote:Oh are you trying to force me to test my own medicine?

I don't want you to defend yourself. I want you to defend and push your case and points.

Is that so much to ask?

@Aliese I don't do preflip assosciation assumptions, never cause I know there is a decent chance for them being total crap.

Pep had 2 scummy moments in this game - when he made that grey case and when he called asking for claim a reaction test.
Holy fuck FA you know what I'm like go away.
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #81) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:38 pm

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VOTE: Grey

This slot needs to be dead. I still think it's town but if this guy stays alive the game is most likely a town loss because scum aren't nightkilling him ever.
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #82) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:40 pm

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Well fuck you got me nice outplays I wish my scum game was better.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #83) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:41 pm

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In post 1451, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1448, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Grey

This slot needs to be dead. I still think it's town but if this guy stays alive the game is most likely a town loss because scum aren't nightkilling him ever.
I think this post is posted based on your assumption that I'm scum. If not please clarify. If yes Your vote means nothing till I'm alive so vote me instead if your truthful.
I currently think the scumteam is FA/Pepto/Jhin, yes.
But the only person in that trio I can lynch without autolosing the game because of how weak town's reads are (assuming I'm correct) is Pepto.
Otherwise I can lynch obstacles to that scumteam and see what happens.
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #84) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:42 pm

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In post 1454, Alisae wrote:
In post 1452, RadiantCowbells wrote:Well fuck you got me nice outplays I wish my scum game was better.
AtE
I am literally single handedly the reason that AtE is as prevalent on this site right now as it is.
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Post Post #1460 (isolation #85) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 1459, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1455, RadiantCowbells wrote:I currently think the scumteam is FA/Pepto/Jhin, yes.
Bullshit.

You had all the kindling in the world to ignite an FA lynch earlier and you explicitly refused to do so.
Wait you're saying that if I asked my favorite hydra partner and one of my favourite players in general to play a game I won't want to lynch them day 1?
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Post Post #1464 (isolation #86) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:46 pm

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Yes, the wagon on him is terrible because Pepto is a way better wagon and I don't like how tomorrow will pan out if I'm correct about the scumteam.

Do I ever make sense to anyone who isn't me?
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Post Post #1468 (isolation #87) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:50 pm

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In post 1466, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1464, RadiantCowbells wrote:Yes, the wagon on him is terrible because Pepto is a way better wagon and I don't like how tomorrow will pan out if I'm correct about the scumteam.

Do I ever make sense to anyone who isn't me?
A Jin red flip would suggest that you are wrong about your Pepto read.

Instead of wanting to Lynch Jin to clarify your read on Pepto, you resort to voting a town read.

Yeah .. that makes complete sense!
After MoI nearly threw the game that I didn't PL him when he disagreed with me and my townbloc's agreement on who scum was, I decided that I would not leave people alive if I think they're more dangerous to town than scum are.

You are in that category, regardless of alignment. I'm also not particularly convinced that you're town.
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Post Post #1483 (isolation #88) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:04 pm

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Reads changed =]

Also, Jhin is still the 1 slot in the trio that I'm least certain about.
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #89) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:10 pm

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VOTE: RC

Lynch Grey unconditionally tomorrow.
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Post Post #1492 (isolation #90) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:14 pm

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I will be how I want to be.
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #91) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:17 pm

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Firebringer, remember FA's posts on the last 2 pages if you doubt that she's scum.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #92) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:36 pm

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FA, if you're town you are rolestopping Garmr overnight. Just lynch Grey tomorrow.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #93) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:37 pm

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I don't think that it's a complicated statement.
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #94) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:38 pm

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You've thought a lot of things, haven't you!
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Post Post #1518 (isolation #95) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:40 pm

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I changed my mind!

Also, Grey, you're forgetting the pivotal fact that I am RC and the majority of this game knows what that means. Your lynch will immediately follow mine.
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #96) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:43 pm

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FA. you know better than to do any of what you have done in relation to me. So either you have mysteriously become amnesiac as to what my play is like or as scum. If neither is true, then change your tac.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #97) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:48 pm

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I am VT.

In other news, when the box came to me, there were
TWO DIAMONDS
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ONE WHITE TOKEN
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I took the
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #98) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:50 pm

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In post 1529, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1525, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1523, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1520, Frozen Angel wrote::/

If your saying the thing I'm thinking you say please read again my post in last page RC
He's squirming scum, FA.

He voted HIMSELF over a SCUMREAD knowing he'd be conftown d2 if I LIVED.

Me as scum never says me being alive confirms another player as TOWN.
I understand your points but I have a frightening theory atm that I like RC to understand it, confirm or deny.
It's past the point of mattering what he might claim because this entire mess would have been avoided if he had simply voted Jin... a player he supposedly scumreads.
As if
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me
how I should play this game.

Just look above you! If it's something that can be stopped then just try to stop it!
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #99) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:53 pm

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GET OUT OF HERE ! ! !
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #100) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:55 pm

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Shush you're not thinking you're a little scumbutt.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #101) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:09 pm

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Don't worry your pretty little head about it, Grey will get lynched tomorrow.
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #102) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:14 pm

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Gray will not be included on this list because he's just getting lynched. Anyone else is null but I suspect most of my nulls are town.
<Garmr, Firebringer>
<Screenplay>
Null
<Alisae, Pepcho>
<SAJ>
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #103) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:16 pm

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Oh and someone asked for the MoI game.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=65286
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #104) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:18 pm

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In post 1543, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1542, Alisae wrote:Grey Senpai Carry me.
I might have weird ways, but you can't deny they get results.
People like you having egos is the reason I don't get taken seriously before people have played a few games with me. You are playing terribly don't try to start a circlejerk about yourself.
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #105) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:26 pm

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I'm not going to pick a fight FA but jesus if you are somehow town this game.
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #106) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:28 pm

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I find it literally impossible to believe that you are this blind to how I would react to what you're doing here as town. You are scum or someone murdered you and replaced you with a body double.
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #107) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:40 pm

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and you claimed VT without being in pressure of hammer. Now you need to just die. Our friendship on't be touched I promise you that.
Uh if you were this inconsiderate about knowing how I feel about certain things as town then it probably would have been touched! Firebringer will read your last few pages and agree it's a scumclaim even if he disagrees that I'm town for it.
I accept that you're trying to push my buttons because you're a scumfuck and I'm iffy about pushing other people's buttons as scum these days but I can accept it.
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Post Post #1558 (isolation #108) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:49 pm

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Steven Universe was Steven Universe and I was an abundantly different person in a lot of negative ways back then. Would you rather see me come in and blow out all the big guns and get you quicklynched?
Because it's not that I
can't
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I played another mafia game because I was curious how it'd go and I found out it's every bit as cancerous as it was in late 2016 so I'm fine with not being a part of the continuation.
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Post Post #1559 (isolation #109) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:49 pm

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And besides, I caught you and I guarantee you my 4 scumpile contains at least one of your partners if not both, so you can't say that my play's worse or that you lost respect for it.
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #110) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:56 pm

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Yes, my game plan was definitely to invite you to a game that I was playing then make you feel like shit for it. I forgot that's how I operated.
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #111) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:59 pm

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Oh shit you're firing out the big guns now. So where does 'Town!FA' go after I flip town?
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #112) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:06 pm

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where does 'Town!FA' go after I flip town?
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Post Post #1568 (isolation #113) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:09 pm

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Okay you get 3 points, and 3 only, that I will refute. go. And FA come on you know better than anyone that my shit is never together.
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Post Post #1572 (isolation #114) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:16 pm

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That's semantics. What are your 3 top reasons to scumread me? And no, my game plan was never organized and frequently inconsistent until I started to lock in on things.

The difference between this game and the others is that in my early days on the site I got into the habit of not talking about my reads until I was ready because people scumread how fluidly I change them. I tried to be as communicative as possible and people freaked out because they couldn't follow my train of logic. You're asking me to refute other people failing to understand my logic by explaining my logic even more
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #115) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:16 pm

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You did not name a set of 3 things to look at either.
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #116) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:23 pm

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Fine we'll go with this.
and no I'm not blind. I'm a 1 shot role stopper. Grey claimed weak cop. he can confirm someone tonight and it will be a 1v1 between me and that person he confirms if he dies and it will be a 1v1 between grey and the person he is checking if he doesn't. Its simple logic and your refusing to participate in this is scummy as fuck.
First of all, this is not how a vanilla cop works. He's either going to get a confirmed guilty if 2 people die or an unconfirmed guilty / role block if he dies or a semiconfirmed inno if he lives. Contingent on what people think you did.
Here's my reasoning: if Grey is an easy lynch tomorrow he's unlikely to get nightkilled and he's likely to get lynched. So we'll get a report, which is good, and not have his terrible play in the continuing days, which is also good.
Your saying Jin is a counter wagon cause I was pushing it then you said you have a scum read on him as well and you actually think I am bussing him to save another buddy pep. You can't even get your reads consistent.
So basically initial read looked at the wagon saw FA my lead scumread on it read his first post and was like meh this is pretty okay and saw my wagon falling behind the wayside and got pissy.
Then he posted more and I reread both slots together and decided it wasn't FA/Anotora/Pepcho and I needed more scumbutts and I decided that he was probably scum and I saw you first on the wagon and remembered my modded game and the fact that you learned from me and was like 'dayam hard bus inc!'
Then Grey starts saying that Pepcho is confirmed town after a SAJ lynch and I'm like fuck no, YES that does look like SAJ is being an opportunistic scumfuck but that's not guaranteed and Pepcho is sufficiently scummy on his independent play that I wouldn't be surprised if it was an attempt to get towncred during competing scum wagons.
So I didn't want a SAJ lynch because I felt like I would get nightkilled and Pepcho would coast to endgame off of SAJ making one post despite their scumfuckiness.
Then Gray started being super obnoxious and I was just like holy jesus fuck this town.
and you claimed VT without being in pressure of hammer. Now you need to just die. Our friendship won't be touched I promise you that.
FA.
I literally claim VT out of nowhere as town more often than I don't.
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #117) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:30 pm

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Fwiw this is entirely not what I'd expect from scum!FA here and I've been burned by changing my gut reads on you but it's enough that I'm willing to try to work with you here.
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #118) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:38 pm

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I'm gonna VOTE: Alisae because I really don't fucking like 1528 and 1530. It feels like someone looking at things from a mislynch perspective rather than a sorting perspective.
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Post Post #1583 (isolation #119) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:46 pm

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So you admit you agree with my points about SAJ but you want pep gone cause you think pep won't get lynched in later days - which I can see that from a Town!you perspective and you admitted that the whole "this is a counterwagon" was sololy based on the fact I initiated the lynch. so tell me this : You know how hard is to get me lynched. You know that In past 50 games on site I only got lynched twice - so why pepe over me? spescially when you were this sure SAJ was a counterwagon because your scumread on me?/quote]

Garmr already scumread you and I am pretty damn confident that Firebringer would lynch you if I gave that as my semi-dying wish. I intended to give out some sort of 'NO MATTER WHAT ATE FA PULLS YOU IGNORE IT AND LYNCH HER' disclaimer as well.
If you don't you either know, or just don't care about the game.
I didn't care about it from a I'm not going to try to convince town to not vote me perspective, not from a general I want to lynch town perspective. FA gets special credits for being FA.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #120) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:47 pm

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Well I fucked that up.
So you admit you agree with my points about SAJ but you want pep gone cause you think pep won't get lynched in later days - which I can see that from a Town!you perspective and you admitted that the whole "this is a counterwagon" was sololy based on the fact I initiated the lynch. so tell me this : You know how hard is to get me lynched. You know that In past 50 games on site I only got lynched twice - so why pepe over me? spescially when you were this sure SAJ was a counterwagon because your scumread on me?
Garmr already scumread you and I am pretty damn confident that Firebringer would lynch you if I gave that as my semi-dying wish. I intended to give out some sort of 'NO MATTER WHAT ATE FA PULLS YOU IGNORE IT AND LYNCH HER' disclaimer as well.
If you don't you either know, or just don't care about the game.
I didn't care about it from a I'm not going to try to convince town to not vote me perspective, not from a general I want to lynch town perspective. FA gets special credits for being FA.
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Post Post #1589 (isolation #121) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:52 pm

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Also there's a lot of shit from Alisae that looks like him trying to buddy Grey and I really don't like the way he declared the game retarded after the PR claim. There's a name for that tell that I can't remember.
And before I get asked, I'm not voting SAJ because I wouldn't want to lynch them until I've figured out where my reads stand now that FA is possibly town.
Why do you all use sarcasm as a way to get out of tough situations...
Trust me, you'd like sarcasm from me a lot better than the alternative.
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Post Post #1663 (isolation #122) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:54 am

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In post 1602, -Grey- wrote:I'm not wasting my one investigation on RC when he's blatant scum.

You're telling me to die for no reason and that's just stupid.
This is why this dude isn't house.
Newsflash: regardless of what PR you are or claim to be you are not as valuable alive as I am.
No one is willing to just accept 'hey we'll call a player we all already know is an absolute shitshow shit' in exchange for losing me.
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Post Post #1666 (isolation #123) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:58 am

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Actually I think Alisae is probably scum, not town.
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Post Post #1669 (isolation #124) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:02 am

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No, I still think Jhin is a scumfuck. If his wagon gets going I will vote him today when I have clearer reads elswehere since I'm no longer worried about Grey living to endgame and making scum unlynchable.
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Post Post #1672 (isolation #125) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:05 am

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I sincerely doubt Grey unvotes me today. Incompetence and a feeling of impotence has a way of leading itself to doing crappy stuff like this.
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #126) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:06 am

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I mean I think we can get the votes or force a situation where it's obvious that every single scum is on my wagon, but Grey is not unvoting me.
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Post Post #1676 (isolation #127) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:08 am

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Ad hom is my first line of defense, not my last line of defense.
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Post Post #1677 (isolation #128) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:10 am

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What do you want from me here Firebringer?
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Post Post #1680 (isolation #129) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:11 am

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I am voting a scumread. Do you specifically want me to vote SAJ?
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #130) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:13 am

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Oh noes it certainly would take a LOT of pride swallowing to get me to want to bus my buddy. That's not something that I would ever do of my own free will.
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #131) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:16 am

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I was talking to Firebringer but fine I can vote this. No one hammers until I get another readslist out though.

VOTE: SAJ
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #132) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:43 am

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Don't patronize me FA.
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #133) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:45 am

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In post 1693, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1680, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am voting a scumread. Do you specifically want me to vote SAJ?
You should vote someone if you belive you do. Anything else is you just trying to look less scummy.

Also you completely ignored everything I got on you before my lynch. Like how can you exolain that you said that SAJ was your only SR that you weren't really sure about and then you put him higher on your scum radar then me, when you have been wanting me lynched for a long time?
How can reads change when they are supposed to literally stay static the entire game because changing circumstances never changes anything!!!!
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #134) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:50 am

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In post 1707, Srceenplay wrote:I mean if we can't confirm the miller we are going to have to lynch it later anyway, right?
So why not check the miller get a possible confirm town.
Or just use our lynch now to get rid of the miller and go through with the original check?
Umm, no we're not because the slot is obviously town. You are overestimating the importance of the aforementioned miller.
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #135) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:53 am

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<Firebringer>
<Garmr, Grey>
<Srceenplay, FA, PantherPunt>
Null line
<Pepto, Mlmooney>
<Alisae>
<Jhin>
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #136) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:55 am

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I'm going to take the time to case Alisae because I think that's the scum that's most likely to endgame if I end up being lynched.
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #137) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:18 am

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You are already voting me and I don't expect you to unvote so why would I be wasting time trying to change your mind?
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #138) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:19 am

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Like, you called me scum earlier, I explained why your reasoning was dogshit, you agreed it was dogshit, and then you came back on me as scum. Then you did it again.

If you don't want me to assume that you're discrediting me for strategic as opposed to read reasons then you should have done something differently. As is you are not my worth my time.
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #139) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:21 am

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As for my read changes, I clearly explained my thought process in 1574 and I don't plan to go any further into that, and certainly not for you.
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #140) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:22 am

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In post 1715, Anotora wrote:
In post 1712, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1705, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 1693, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 1680, RadiantCowbells wrote:I am voting a scumread. Do you specifically want me to vote SAJ?
You should vote someone if you belive you do. Anything else is you just trying to look less scummy.

Also you completely ignored everything I got on you before my lynch. Like how can you exolain that you said that SAJ was your only SR that you weren't really sure about and then you put him higher on your scum radar then me, when you have been wanting me lynched for a long time?
How can reads change when they are supposed to literally stay static the entire game because changing circumstances never changes anything!!!!
I will guess this is sarcasm.

Well let me ask you this. You say that the only lynch today should be me. You say that it's the right lynch and tell people to get back on it. You also say that SAJ is the scumread you are least certain about. Then you start getting questioned why don't you lynch SAJ when he is obviously inconsistent and scummy. You post reads and bam! I'm more of a null then SAJ. A miracle! Now can you find me the inconsistencies?
This is alarmingly good posting from you.
UNVOTE: Pepcho
Actually no it's not.
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #141) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:24 am

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Pepcho's posting has been shitty and inconsistent throughout the game. The only reason to not be positive Pepcho is scum is if you feel that SAJ was opportunistically jumping wagons earlier.
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Post Post #1722 (isolation #142) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:30 am

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I'm not sure what you mean. I think you are either scum (far more likely) or town who is so bad that I don't even want to be in the same game as you (somewhat less likely.) Either way if you're not going to unvote me then stop talking to me.
I don't think SAJ post #1058 (the Pepcho vote) is scummy for the same reasons that FA has stated, but it sure is opportunistic as hell.
Fair, but based on my surrounding reads and my feelings about the Pepcho slot I think it's more likely that he wanted to get a quick in on the slot to make the wagons seem like TvS counterwagons if the two of them got lynched. I think it's still possible that Pepcho is town but for him to be town requires a lot of stretching as to just how big of a VI he is.

Then again with how this town has been playing in general maybe I shouldn't discount is so quickly.
No, earlier when I was hitting on you for the inconsistent voting (if you are talking about that) I didn't call you scum. I called you suspicious and you responded to that saying it's shit. I get this as a plus one for me, since I gave explanation you did not. Imo you slipped like 10 times during the last couple of pages and I wanted to ask you why and do you have any reasoning for that? You lynching yourself when you could vote one of your 3 scumreads but then unvote yourself just a couple post later is clear try to manipulate the situation.
So clear. not talking to you anymore.
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #143) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:42 am

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I've gone through Alisae's and it's really hard to point at anything as specifically opportunistic but it's more the complete lack of depth.
His posting is so flippant, the buddying of grey is so obnoxious and scummy, the way he reacted to the cop claim is scummy on the same principle as saying 'wow that sucks' at the start of the day being scum.
It's like a halfway between gloating and trying to empathize with town thing that feels really bad.

There's literally no substance to any of his reads. His vote on me is not supported by his posting and his play is very active lurky in a very deliberate way.
I should point out that his associatives with SAJ are complete and utter shit.
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Post Post #1744 (isolation #144) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 1740, Alisae wrote:VOTE: Jin
We'll come back to the RC lot later. Don't like it.
Their sudden case on me is shit too. It feels like they felt forced to draft one.
This slot does not live to endgame. Beyond any others remember this one.
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Post Post #1765 (isolation #145) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:52 pm

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No, your opportunistic vote was the one on me.
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Post Post #1767 (isolation #146) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:33 pm

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I'm sure =]
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #147) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:37 pm

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Hi Gamma!
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #148) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:39 pm

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In post 1775, Alisae wrote:tbh Gamma there are some parts of this game I've read deeply and other parts I've just skimmed.
I'll sum you up with my reads.
{Me, Grey, FA, Firebringer} <--- Pretty much conf town. I'm conftown because it's litterally me.
{Screenplay, Panther, Gamr}
{Gamma, Ano, Pep}
{Jin, RC, Mlooney} <--- Lynch Pool
You agree with virtually all my scumreads yet think I'm scum for /reasons/
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #149) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:39 pm

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I mean that readslist looks like it basically copied my readslist but swapped out myself for you. And mine came first.
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #150) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:42 pm

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You are known as a megabusser. Alisae has given no indication whatsoever that they understand my meta for that reasoning to apply.
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #151) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:43 pm

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And Alisae's last readslist mirrors mine far more closely than your reads mirrored mine.
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #152) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:44 pm

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My point is, I would think if Alisae were town he would at the very least pause at the fact that our reads are in such synchronicity when calling me town.

On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if Alisae as scum would imitate my readslist.
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #153) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:11 pm

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My conclusion: the people good enough to make use out of VCA rarely use it because it's one of the least effective tools in their arsenal.
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Post Post #1865 (isolation #154) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:20 pm

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I am not a scumbutt >:[
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #155) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:28 pm

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You're wrong on both. Elsa is Frozen Angel and I am Anna.
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Post Post #1891 (isolation #156) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:41 pm

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Grey is checking me so that either

1) I can be confirmed town and stop dealing with idiocy or
2) I can get nightkilled and the above.
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #157) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:25 pm

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Uhh you're probably all gonna get modkilled.
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #158) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:25 pm

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Maybe not modkilled but definitely force replaced. You can't do that.
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Post Post #2011 (isolation #159) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:22 pm

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VOTE: FA
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Post Post #2012 (isolation #160) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:24 pm

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VOTE: Pepchoninga

FA is still probscum but SAJ was a counterwagon to Pepcho.
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Post Post #2014 (isolation #161) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:29 pm

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When I designed my micro with a loyal doctor + macho vigilante CFJ brought up the role interactions of a massclaim D1 since it was theoretically to town's benefit to do so.
I believe that a weak vanilla cop would have gone through the same process.
Scum has guaranteed power versus a weak cop alone and I suspect that if FA is not scum, there is a roleblocker.
I want to lynch outside FA today for that reason although she's still a great scumspect.
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Post Post #2015 (isolation #162) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:30 pm

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I'm fine with being mislynched today so that I can tell Grey what a fucking terrible player he is in dead chat but I am calling the next 3 lynches, period.
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Post Post #2017 (isolation #163) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:32 pm

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I mean I didn't say much but it doesn't take a genius to realize there has to be some sort of scum roleblocking power.
If FA is town that means that there's both a weak cop and a 1-shot proteector for them. That's cop/doc interaction and would never go through without a roleblocker.
If FA is scum, well, that means that Grey was never protected.
So after the fact the theory was wrong and pointless.
Oh no shit the theory was wrong and pointless I just hoped that FA was town and that she'd eat the bullet instead of me because scum would underestimate me.
That clearly didn't happen.
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Post Post #2019 (isolation #164) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:35 pm

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In post 1635, Frozen Angel wrote:Grey, You don't know RC,

He manipultes the shit out of everything with doing weird stuffs like that as either alignment. He not agreeing with a plan which would confirm him as town makes no sense though - he was thinking I was scum and I would kill you to frame him then.

Thats why It will practically put me and your target in a 1v1 if you die when checking.

if I get rolebocked I won't loose my shot - thats what my normal reviewers forced me to do in my own normal game - so I will know if I was role blocked or not though, won't I?
Okay so FA has to either force a 1v1 with me or confirm that she was roleblocked.
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #165) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:37 pm

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Oh, and SAJ was shit.

Anyone who tries to bind my hands on a lynch again is going to get powerlynched. You all had your way and you fucked up. We're doing this my way now.
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #166) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 2021, Srceenplay wrote:So how many power role are you saying the mafia has?
I don't know but I can guarantee that if FA isn't scum then scum have a roleblocker.
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #167) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:52 pm

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I'd need a massclaim and I don't want a massclaim today.

I'm waiting for FA to claim before I do anything else.
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Post Post #2028 (isolation #168) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:03 pm

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In post 2026, Anotora wrote:
In post 2025, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd need a massclaim and I don't want a massclaim today.

I'm waiting for FA to claim before I do anything else.
FA already claimed D1. Duh.
If she claims not roleblocked then she is confscum because a strongman in this setup is basically impossible.
If she claims roleblocked then we can carry on and see if we lynch a roleblocker.
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Post Post #2031 (isolation #169) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:21 pm

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In post 2029, Anotora wrote:
In post 2028, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 2026, Anotora wrote:
In post 2025, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd need a massclaim and I don't want a massclaim today.

I'm waiting for FA to claim before I do anything else.
FA already claimed D1. Duh.
If she claims not roleblocked then she is confscum because a strongman in this setup is basically impossible.
If she claims roleblocked then we can carry on and see if we lynch a roleblocker.
There doesn't need to be a strongman for -Grey- to die overnight. Even if FA successfully made -Grey- a bulletproof ascetic, -Grey- would then be a weak bulletproof ascetic. He'd still die if you were scum.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells
Rofl I think I was right about Pepto Anotora.
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #170) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:26 pm

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In post 2030, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 2028, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 2026, Anotora wrote:
In post 2025, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'd need a massclaim and I don't want a massclaim today.

I'm waiting for FA to claim before I do anything else.
FA already claimed D1. Duh.
If she claims not roleblocked then she is confscum because a strongman in this setup is basically impossible.
If she claims roleblocked then we can carry on and see if we lynch a roleblocker.
I kinda dislike the way you say that if she admits to being roleblocked this basically makes her town and we should belive her.
No, I said that we should not lynch her today because a roleblocker flip from scum would vindicate her. Shh.
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #171) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:38 pm

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Why are you deliberately obfuscating the fact that I clearly argued why I think that a Roleblocker is nigh inevitable if FA is town?
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Post Post #2035 (isolation #172) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:39 pm

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VOTE: Anotora

This is scum regardless of what FA is I think.
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Post Post #2036 (isolation #173) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:42 pm

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We know for a certain fact that one of FA or RC is scum. Yet, for some reason, RC isn't voting FA!!!
Like I keep coming back to this. This is the most sensationalist, blow-things-out-of-proportion bullshit that I have ever seen. I find it impossible to believe that he legitimately did not consider the possibility of a roleblocker and that he also managed to read all my posts which he quoted but somehow has like a mental block preventing him from forming the word roleblocker in his mind.

Anotora is clearly being deliberately manipulative and whether that's because FA is scum with him or because he wants to frame the both of us and try to get us lynched remains to be seen.
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Post Post #2041 (isolation #174) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:24 pm

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In post 2038, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 2037, Anotora wrote:If scum had a roleblocker, and both you and FA were town, the scum team's best move would have been to roleblock FA and kill you, so that -Grey- confirming you as a townie would be useless. They didn't do that. You're alive. You or FA is scum.
What if a doctor healed someone?
If a doctor healed someone FA is confirmed scum by setup spec.

AND BWAHAHAHAH WHY WOULD SCUM ROLEBLOCK FA AND KILL ME!?
THEY COULD KILL ME ANYWAY I WASN'T PROTECTED.
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Post Post #2043 (isolation #175) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:25 pm

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In post 2040, Anotora wrote:
In post 2017, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean I didn't say much but it doesn't take a genius to realize there has to be some sort of scum roleblocking power.
If FA is town that means that there's both a weak cop and a 1-shot proteector for them. That's cop/doc interaction and would never go through without a roleblocker.
Sure it would. That's the reason they're weak and 1-shot, respectively.
Weak is a buff and more than 1-shot is too much. You're forgetting the 'rolestopper' half of the equation whereby you couldn't RB the cop like you normally could. Shush scumfuck.
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #176) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:51 pm

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In post 2045, Anotora wrote:If you're truly town, FA, the scum should've killed you so that -Grey-'s inno on you was NAI for anyone in the game.
They should have but clearly they thought that trying to force a silly 1v1 between me and FA would work better. You and your teammates will regret not killing me.
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Post Post #2049 (isolation #177) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:56 pm

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Are you ready to be just another lynch on my path to obtaining the best town performance scummy of 2017? Get the fuck out of my way.
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #178) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:57 pm

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And yes, I am posturing. It is actually a ton of fun and it works towards my wincon so why wouldn't I be posturing? posture posture posture.
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Post Post #2053 (isolation #179) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:58 pm

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And yes, I am posturing. It is actually a ton of fun and it works towards my wincon so why wouldn't I be posturing? posture posture posture.

(now you can delete the first one for pagetop if you do it before anyone quotes anything!)
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #180) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:01 pm

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This is too much posturing now though if none of it's getting deleted. I'm headed towards an extreme overposture if the excessive posturing doesn't immediately slow down.
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Post Post #2057 (isolation #181) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:03 pm

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Well I'm not a huge fan of you either and I'm town so if you're town you should get your shit together and help me lynch scum.

It was not I who went batshit insane over a NAI replace out and derailed the glorious Pepcho wagon for the sake of someone who I even said looked pretty VI.
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Post Post #2065 (isolation #182) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:53 pm

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VOTE: Frozen Angel

FA confirmed as scum along with Anotora and possibly Pepcho?
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Post Post #2067 (isolation #183) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:55 pm

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I don't expect to talk my way out of this given my history with scum play but I think it's kind of sad that a scum team that I broke apart day 1 got carried by town enough to mislynch me.
I don't give a shit what remaining town thinks their opinions are, your lynch order is FA->Anotora->Pepcho. You aren't entitled to deciding your own lynches until those 3 are gone.
If that bothers you, well next time play better because I wagoned two scum day 1 and you all did fuck all.
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Post Post #2070 (isolation #184) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:57 pm

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I'm proud of your AtE but you won't be needing it. There is no way that I win this 1v1 with this town.
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Post Post #2074 (isolation #185) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:02 pm

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No way jose. My #1 goal here is to make sure everyone who ends up voting me and is town feels as shitty about it as possible to make sure the game continues the way I want it to.
It's funny how I came back with the resolution to change my playstyle because fuck I could be nicer, I could do less egoistic shit, I could try to play positive, but fact is that doesn't work.

My meta evolved the way it did not because this is the way I am nor because of a guided effort to make it this way but simply because it's the most effective way to play this game.
you just slipped that you know I'm town there
Such slip wow amazing many knowledges!
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #186) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:05 pm

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I know I'm probably overreacting but this was actually something we discussed yesterday and I find it nigh impossible to believe the mod forgot to inform you of your shots.
A weak vanillcop that I protected died visiting you

Just stop talking k?
Fuck no now that I know you're scum for sure I am going to be the biggest pain in the ass that you've ever experienced. You left me alive to play this 1v1 let's play this 1v1!
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Post Post #2080 (isolation #187) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:09 pm

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This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. X-Shot roles that are roleblocked should not be refunded their shots. A Role Cop investigating an X-Shot role should be told how many shots it started with, regardless of how many remain.
You claim that when you were designing a normal setup they forced you to do it the opposite way. Cite the game or I am going to consider it a scumclaim.
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #188) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:14 pm

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In post 1635, Frozen Angel wrote:Grey, You don't know RC,

He manipultes the shit out of everything with doing weird stuffs like that as either alignment. He not agreeing with a plan which would confirm him as town makes no sense though - he was thinking I was scum and I would kill you to frame him then.

Thats why It will practically put me and your target in a 1v1 if you die when checking.

if I get rolebocked I won't loose my shot - thats what my normal reviewers forced me to do in my own normal game - so I will know if I was role blocked or not though, won't I?
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This role modifier is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. X-Shot roles that are roleblocked should not be refunded their shots. A Role Cop investigating an X-Shot role should be told how many shots it started with, regardless of how many remain.
You claim that when you were designing a normal setup they forced you to do it the opposite way. Cite the game or I am going to consider it a scumclaim.
So either you're claiming that someone in the NRG fucked up your setup or you are claiming scum.
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #189) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:16 pm

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Oh boy FA you are in trouble.
also please be aware that shots are not refunded in case of those roles being blocked
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Post Post #2086 (isolation #190) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:17 pm

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FA BRAZENLY lied about how roleblocks interacts with shots and is now claiming that the mod, WHO ISN'T EVEN FUCKING ONLINE, is refusing to tell her how many shots that she has.

That is so fucking bullshit that I can't even express how much fucking bullshit it is.
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Post Post #2088 (isolation #191) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:19 pm

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In post 2087, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2083, Anotora wrote:FA, if you are a 1-shot and you targeted -Grey- overnight, why would there be any question as to how many shots you are left with? Very fishy.
Cause I'm sure The shots was refunded in my normal review game

Cephir was the one who said That I guess...

I just want to make sure my shot was not refunded
IDK FA cuz to me this seems like a brilliant way for you to get a lynch on me and then turn around and say OH SHIT I DIDNT KNOW HOW NORMAL ROLEBLOCKER INTERACTION WORKED.
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Post Post #2092 (isolation #192) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:23 pm

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In post 2089, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2086, RadiantCowbells wrote:FA BRAZENLY lied about how roleblocks interacts with shots and is now claiming that the mod, WHO ISN'T EVEN FUCKING ONLINE, is refusing to tell her how many shots that she has.

That is so fucking bullshit that I can't even express how much fucking bullshit it is.
SHUT THE FUK UP RC ok?

You're making me angry - the way I shouldn't be in a mafia game you know that yes?

MOD JUST PM'ED me like 10 min ago whne I first posted in thread - I asked him that question and He answered me Now practically fuck off
No I am not going to fuck off because this is exactly the shit that you do as scum to keep people from voting you and I am not going to sit and say 'oh if FA wants to AtE hard enough then she should automatically get the win' because that's the shit that lost me my last game vs Postie and I am now pissed off and motivated to win this game.
Why does it matter if you have a shot? If from above in normal you lose your shot from rb what is it that you will be able to confirm?
IF she claims to have a shot then she's confirmed scum. If she claims NOT to have a shot then everything is up in the air.
The only situation I can think of under which the mod would have told her 'no comment' is if she doesn't have a 1-shot ability and tried to ask him what would happen IF she did.
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Post Post #2093 (isolation #193) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:24 pm

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In post 2091, Anotora wrote:I still think RC-scum is more likely than FA-scum (could be both!) but this is enough to make me

UNVOTE: RadiantCowbells

Until Yoshi is back and FA has something concrete for us.
'could be both' holy fuck you cheeky scumlord.
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #194) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:25 pm

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IT IS LITERALLY ON THE MAFIAWIKI. CEPHRIR HIMSELF TOLD YOU HOW IT WORKS WHEN YOU WERE DESIGNING SYMPHONIC METAL.
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #195) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:26 pm

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Alright fuck it I'm not quite sure what's going on on FA's end and I'll let that wait till later. She won't make endgame after a contradiction as glaring as that anyway.

VOTE: Anotora

Have fun in dead thread you cheeky scumfuck.
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Post Post #2101 (isolation #196) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:27 pm

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In post 2098, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2092, RadiantCowbells wrote:The only situation I can think of under which the mod would have told her 'no comment' is if she doesn't have a 1-shot ability and tried to ask him what would happen IF she did.
Oh and I wouldn't claim a made up result in that case in thread because I suck in this game as scum I guess
I have no fucking clue what's going on on your end but you need to sort it out and post it in thread once you've got everything cleared up.
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Post Post #2116 (isolation #197) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:02 pm

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VOTE: FA

Alright my mind is made up. If she has fucked up her role to this extent and deigns to claim a guilty on me then she needs to die.
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Post Post #2118 (isolation #198) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:04 pm

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Alisae if you're town you can keep your opinions to yourself.
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #199) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:08 pm

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There was so, so, so much scum motivation in FA misunderstanding how shots work and I went back and verified it and Cephrir told her the correct way to do things in Symphonic Metal.
I still think it's, like, plausible? that she really just completely wet the bed on both her reads and her role this entire game and Anotora's unvote feels like scum who sees an opportunity to push a double ML but
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST her version of events is so implausible to me.
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