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Post Post #1650  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:35 pm

Reason 1 :

In post 723, Pepchoninga wrote:
In post 721, -Grey- wrote:
In post 718, Pepchoninga wrote:Wrong. I don't really care if he claims.

In post 701, Pepchoninga wrote:So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?


Clearly.

Yes I'm asking him would he. To see his reaction. I'm telling him to do it like Alisae.

And I've explained what him refusing to reveal and him doing it would do imo.


He asked anotora to cliam, which wasn't that bad then as anotora was really in edge of getting lynched (arguably) but then he refereed to that as a reaction test after being called out for it ^
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Post Post #1651  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:36 pm

Man I had a terrible sleep last night, and judging by weather I might have to leave later tonight, RIp me.

I'll see what I missed.
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Post Post #1652  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:36 pm

Obvious Alt has been prodded.

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Post Post #1653  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:37 pm

How's everyone's morning?
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Post Post #1654  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:39 pm

Reason 2 :

In post 1120, Pepchoninga wrote:Now.

Firstly when I talk about -Grey- I need to express how much I dislike his behavior in the game regardless of his allotment. He is sometimes rude and even disrespectful. It's a thing that annoys some players and should be kept to a minimum imo. But this is besides the point.

First thing I find obviously suspicious is how inconsistent his read on the game has been till he latched on to me. He moved from null-town to null-scum all the time and overall didn't give any explanation for his actions.

The previous is further seen when he gives his reads. In the span of a couple of pages he changes them almost drastically and again WITHOUT explaining almost any of the changes made. This is inconsistent and strange.

Another thing is he is obviously very cocky and likes the use of sarcasm. This doesn't necessarily make someone look scim, but when you use it too much like in Grey's situation it's certainly fishy and annoying.

Let's not talk about his pretty disrespectful behavior in the argument against Frozen Angel. It seemed that he really just wanted to discourage her and provoke her. Wether she is town or scum it worked. And honestly Grey seemed to enjoy it. Again I saw traits in this segment that are not town like.

Lastly let's take a look at when he put my vote up. He apparently did it after I asked would Ano claim and if he would, will he. This would be ok, if he actually got on the make a bigger case after the lynch. When asked for one I got the same cocky remarks and more sarcasm. He purposely has ignored some of my questions and this has been confirmed by him (I will provide a quote if needed) and this again isn't town like. Why would he do that? Well in my mind I just see it as that he doesn't really have a good case on me on seems to not want to try and create one.

The vote he so desperately promotes to be lynched is one he can't or doesn't want to justify. This for me is disrespectful even. Even if you are right, whe. You lynch someone at least try to look convincing. But maybe you are. After you I'm at L-1 and only person that has tryid to get something from is someone who wasn't voted me yet.



In post 1127, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1124, Pepchoninga wrote:I've don't belive I said Grey is misguided town. I said he has been a null going up and down till I actually got points that I have been pointing out in previous posts.

No, my interest in SAJ post isn't fake. I simply like the way he presented it and I think it is mostly right, so I said it. I See nothing wrong tbh.


But why

all the points you're mentioning are for pages ago. what changed?


He made a case about grey and started scumreading him right after being called out for his weird agreement with SAJ post. He claimed he had a null read on grey before making this case (with ups and downs) but he started feeling strong about it suddenly - when all his reasoning were for pages ago and grey had no posts then.
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Post Post #1655  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:40 pm

In post 1653, Firebringer wrote:How's everyone's morning?


Its night here but thanks for asking lol

can you please read the me - RC conversation. I really want your opinion
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Post Post #1656  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:45 pm

I have a few newbie to this site questions;

Alt- I was thinking that means you have more than one account. Is that correct? If so I just read RC's sig (mostly ignore those) and it says titus. One is a he and one is a she. Are you the same person in my last game?

So this is a normal game... does that mean we can have more than one of certain roles or that they will be slightly different but same main role?

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Post Post #1657  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:48 pm

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With 13 votes available, it takes 7 to lynch.

RadiantCowbells (L-3) - Alisae, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Pepchoninga
Alisae (L-4) - Srceenplay, PantherPunt, RadiantCowbells
Pepchoninga (L-5) - Anotora, Garmr
Secret Agent Jin (L-5) - Firebringer, Frozen Angel
-Grey- (L-6) - Obvious Alt
Srceenplay (L-6) - mlmooney89

Not Voting (0):

Firebringer is V/LA until January 9th

Deadline: (expired on 2017-01-16 14:00:00)

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Post Post #1658  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:48 pm

[list=][/list]What I still can't process from RC and this was discussed a few pages ago.
Why was he so against Jin lynch if he scumread him along with peri and you.

I told him I'd help lynch pepto today for that tomorrow.
Which should be reasonable enough to agree to.

His whole lynch this person tomorrow that isn't even a scumread sounds like RC just being RC but is very anti town.
The conversation between you two is....inconclusive really. How strong do you think he is scumread? Cause it looked like he moved up your reads list not down after?

My gut says RC is town but my gut doesn't feel good about it a lot of this stuff....
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Post Post #1659  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:51 pm

I was thinking early in the day that if you frozen were scum it's very unlikely RC is scum.
This kind of cements that for me. Unless you two did best scum theatre ever, I am very sure it's not SvS.
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Post Post #1660  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:52 pm

In post 1658, Firebringer wrote:What I still can't process from RC and this was discussed a few pages ago.
Why was he so against Jin lynch if he scumread him along with peri and you.

I told him I'd help lynch pepto today for that tomorrow.
Which should be reasonable enough to agree to.

His whole lynch this person tomorrow that isn't even a scumread sounds like RC just being RC but is very anti town.
The conversation between you two is....inconclusive really. How strong do you think he is scumread? Cause it looked like he moved up your reads list not down after?

My gut says RC is town but my gut doesn't feel good about it a lot of this stuff....


What about the fact he's still not voting any of his stated scumreads?

RC has been bullshitting the entire game.
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Post Post #1661  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:53 pm

I would much rather wait to see if they contribute or are replaced before night happens.

Also Panther your read list doesn't make sense if you're still voting me because the vote basically says you scumread me but I thought you also mentioned you scumread Jin, no?
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Post Post #1662  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:54 pm

I'd prefer a check on RC tonight but like me and panther pointed out there's potential problems for whoever grey checks.
And now grey doesn't want to do that >.>

Why can't we lynch Jin?
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Post Post #1663  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:54 pm

In post 1602, -Grey- wrote:I'm not wasting my one investigation on RC when he's blatant scum.

You're telling me to die for no reason and that's just stupid.


This is why this dude isn't house.
Newsflash: regardless of what PR you are or claim to be you are not as valuable alive as I am.
No one is willing to just accept 'hey we'll call a player we all already know is an absolute shitshow shit' in exchange for losing me.
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Post Post #1664  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 1661, Alisae wrote:I would much rather wait to see if they contribute or are replaced before night happens.

Also Panther your read list doesn't make sense if you're still voting me because the vote basically says you scumread me but I thought you also mentioned you scumread Jin, no?
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Post Post #1665  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 1660, -Grey- wrote:
In post 1658, Firebringer wrote:What I still can't process from RC and this was discussed a few pages ago.
Why was he so against Jin lynch if he scumread him along with peri and you.

I told him I'd help lynch pepto today for that tomorrow.
Which should be reasonable enough to agree to.

His whole lynch this person tomorrow that isn't even a scumread sounds like RC just being RC but is very anti town.
The conversation between you two is....inconclusive really. How strong do you think he is scumread? Cause it looked like he moved up your reads list not down after?

My gut says RC is town but my gut doesn't feel good about it a lot of this stuff....


What about the fact he's still not voting any of his stated scumreads?

RC has been bullshitting the entire game.

Very anti town, he has been saying you and alisae are worse for town than any of his scum reads.

Is that reasonable? Not really, but not sure if it's scummy as rage.
Idk if RC was scum I expect some more I don't know more "in control" if that makes sense?
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Post Post #1666  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:58 pm

Actually I think Alisae is probably scum, not town.
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Post Post #1667  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:58 pm

In post 1662, Firebringer wrote:I'd prefer a check on RC tonight but like me and panther pointed out there's potential problems for whoever grey checks.
And now grey doesn't want to do that >.>

Why can't we lynch Jin?

Ask RC. I was all about a Jin lynch until RC decided he'd rather self-vote than lynch Jin.
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Post Post #1668  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:01 pm

In post 1666, RadiantCowbells wrote:Actually I think Alisae is probably scum, not town.

So does that replace Jin in your scum pool?
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Post Post #1669  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:02 pm

No, I still think Jhin is a scumfuck. If his wagon gets going I will vote him today when I have clearer reads elswehere since I'm no longer worried about Grey living to endgame and making scum unlynchable.
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Post Post #1670  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:03 pm

In post 1665, Firebringer wrote:Idk if RC was scum I expect some more I don't know more "in control" if that makes sense?

Personally, I think he's just leaning on his scummy to get by with blatant, obvscum b/s.

Jin was busted as scum for things that, sadly, he has no control over... and RC has been doing cartwheels attempting damage control.
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Post Post #1671  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:04 pm

In post 1669, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, I still think Jhin is a scumfuck. If his wagon gets going I will vote him today when I have clearer reads elswehere since I'm no longer worried about Grey living to endgame and making scum unlynchable.

Well you can vote him and I think grey will vote him.
That puts him at L-3

Wait vcs is messed up
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Post Post #1672  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:05 pm

I sincerely doubt Grey unvotes me today. Incompetence and a feeling of impotence has a way of leading itself to doing crappy stuff like this.
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Post Post #1673  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:06 pm

I mean I think we can get the votes or force a situation where it's obvious that every single scum is on my wagon, but Grey is not unvoting me.
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Post Post #1674  (ISO)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:07 pm

ITT: RC has to resort to ad hom because he can't manipulate me.
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