Mini 1859: D&D Curse of Strahd Mafia - Game Over

[drealmerz7]

and, again, if it IS how it is, you're still scum just leading us on pointless artifact collecting missions while we lynch town during the Day and DO NOTHING TO FIGHT EVIL

GO ON A FUCKING MISSION AND FIGHT SOME EVIL

but noooooooooo

[drealmerz7]

shaz, quit repeating your fuckingself

I hear you

I disagree

fuck off with that shit

[drealmerz7]

it's like "how many times can I make this perspective sound REALLY GOOD and sell it REALLY HARD to push my agenda?"

HOW MANY TIMES

SHUT THE FUCK UP, GEEZ

[drealmerz7]

also

it doesn't fucking matter

because if I'm alive

and we go on a mission

IT WILL FUCKING SUCCEED

scum obviously doesn't want me to be alive for that inevitable eventuality

[drealmerz7]

UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: Shaziro

[drealmerz7]

fucking proof!!!

scum tell right there!

"you have no proof!"

it's fucking MAFIA

the proof is right here in my PM, you scumfuck

[drealmerz7]

scum lies

[drealmerz7]

if the player list can't see how much scum you are, they deserve to lose

if you're actually town, again, worst fucking player, everrrrrr

[drealmerz7]

shaziro knows my ranger claim is true, and he knows he can't refute that directly and so has to sew doubt allllll around it

and he's terrified of my power and wants me dead because he knows the things

*yawn*

[drealmerz7]

And now you've resorted back to more assertions with no backing and insults. "It's super scummy, just look. I won't explain. Find your own reasons it's scummy.".

This is going nowhere. Waiting on a VC.

it's obvious and if enoug ppl can't see it the game is lost anyway

I have no energy to teach people how to not be stupid players

[drealmerz7]

oh I should probably stay on my CW

I'm comfortable with his lynch enough, and I'm more powerful, sooo...

UNVOTE: Shaziro
VOTE: Pine

[drealmerz7]

I never said anything about trapfinding

[drealmerz7]

to elaborate:

With being a Ranger, I have an Expert Explorer ability. It prevents the first negative Exploration effect of the game. This has top priority when it comes to preventing daytime disaster and it will activate automatically the first time something goes wrong, and I will guide the team to safety.

[drealmerz7]

nice misrep, andrius

[drealmerz7]

so since at L-1 I'll reveal:

one of the overall abilities I have is called Animal Companion, it grants me a few things, including the send message ability that is already known, but also a track ability (via a different animal, I'd imagine, since the messenger was a pigeon)

I'm a fucking Ranger of the Adventurers and you really should get off my wagon if you're town

[drealmerz7]

Jason had an ability that could help us during day missions. (if I understood it correctly?)

So do I. Mine is stronger.

[drealmerz7]

mine's not "usable in the Day"

it IS used during a Day mission IF we were going to fail it for some reason (I'd guess scum voting to fail the mission - I'm thinking like a mini-Resistance type thing) - without question

I don't need to activate it, cast it on anyone, or anything. It's a "get out of harm's way" guarantee just for being present.

[drealmerz7]

culted is my #1 scumread

UNVOTE: Pine
VOTE: culted

back to bed

[drealmerz7]

omg pine no wtf (avatar)

[drealmerz7]

dunnstral, check your traitor wiki info
pretty sure that slot was town wincon targeted by a strahd minion and therefor got killed instead of converted

[drealmerz7]

that's not scummy, Dunn, that's an attempt at teamwork, which I'm starting to be swayed towards because you are pretty scummy, dunn

sitting back while TvT wagons go towards lynch is starting to look more likely, especially now since both wagons are seeming to stall and drop votes (even if just 1 each)

miller claim also doesn't make much sense given the setup

[drealmerz7]

you've done a wonderful job defending me too

[drealmerz7]

I didn't say there can't be a traitor and a miller nor did I accept an argument of such.

I said miller claim doesn't make sense to me in this setup.

[drealmerz7]

You were never going to get lynched

oh how do you knokw that? discussed in scumchat that it'd be waayyyy too damning for the hammerer to hit me??

pedit:

flavor reasons - how does miller work into the lore?

[drealmerz7]

I'll buy that

[drealmerz7]

oh this scumshit again flinging his pooptalk

I'm throwing my vote on whatever I think will stick? what?

can you get scummier? I'm sure you can...go for it

[drealmerz7]

learn to read

my ABILITY is Animal Companion
under my Animal Companion ability, I have different uses (spells, if you want to call them that, I wouldn't call them that), apparently tied to different animals

I haven't looked up a single fucking thing about Strahd or the campaign or anything

your reliance on lore outside of the game to guide the game is scum-tastic, btw

[drealmerz7]

You're still throwing shade and whining any time I call you out, rather than disproving what I'm saying. It's kinda sad, tbh.

it's because YOU'RE NOT CALLING ME OUT YOU'RE COMING UP WITH BASELESS BULLSHIT

fuck, seriously, you are the most annoying player I'VE EVER COME ACROSS

and that means you're either reveling in being ANNOYING SCUMSHITFUCKFACE

or the worst town player ever

I can get pissed at either

I'm leaning that you're just a scumshitfuckface

[drealmerz7]

fuck and here I was having a nice time playing mafia before going to bed and your annoying stupid fucking scumshitfuckface self has to show up

[drealmerz7]

go fucking die, shaziro

[drealmerz7]

NOPE YOU'RE WRONG, SCUMFUCK

[drealmerz7]

can I just block someone and not read their posts?

[drealmerz7]

You really can't even claim that I'm trying to keep the knowledge exclusive, I've said -many- times that any of you can go look up a PDF of the Players Handbook or the Curse of Strahd adventure and know all of it just as well as I do, if not -more- readily because you are looking at it whereas a lot of the time I'm relying on memory of it.

omfg you are horrible

GO DIE

I can't even play with this shit

[drealmerz7]

go fucking die, shaziro

If you can't avoid taking Mafia games to a personal level like this, I would recommend refraining from them until you can. This is the kind of thing I get sick of.

it's not personal

I'm sick of your scumshit and that the rest of town can't see it

[drealmerz7]

I'm NOT LOOKING AT A FUCKING THING

haven't ONCE

EXCEPT MY PM

OMFG

KILL THIS SCUMSACK PLEASE

[drealmerz7]

repeat your case some more

UNVOTE: whereveritwas
VOTE: shaziro

I seriously can't read more of his posts they are so infuriating - lynch him and you won't be sorry

will check back to this game after the deadline is over

[drealmerz7]

no, shaziro is doing everything he can do discredit everything I say and paint me as scum - EVERYTHING HE CAN

[drealmerz7]

he knows how strong I am because he knows the lore and he just is desperate to get me lynched now

[drealmerz7]

nope the barbarian claim is enough to satiate me

D3 if he doesn't shape up, D2 is too early for potential lurker-scum lynch

[drealmerz7]

whose blood would make you dance in it?

[drealmerz7]

I can vote andrius too

or slysly even

[drealmerz7]

no he's a top TR

[drealmerz7]

he's game-solving and looking at things objectively...

yes, kuror is #1

wez #2

[drealmerz7]

he's game-solving and looking at things objectively...

he's game-solving and looking at things objectively...

yes, kuror is #1

wez #2

If shaz is town this might be the team : 3

you really think I'm scum and would name my scumbuddies as my top 2 townreads?

...

[drealmerz7]

pine what is the difference between my AtE raging here (where I'm town)
and my AtE raging that got my vigged N1 in the game we just finished as scum together?

[drealmerz7]

PEdit: Drealmerz the answer to that goes beyond the scope of a phoneposting as I'm getting ready to shower and bed. If I don't answer you, remind me. I forget stuff when I'm tired.

reminding you

[drealmerz7]

my outrage in that game was also genuine :\
and that's how I would have been as town pretty sure

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Pine

[drealmerz7]

or, ya know, he can speak with the dead because he is undead servant of Strahd and his fakeclaim he was given is cleric but he's a warlock or someshit

geezus shaz you're really hurting the game with all that shit if you're town

[drealmerz7]

what part of mod-provided fakeclaim is hard to understand?

it's not like I'm even arguing that is the case, I'm arguing to shaz who thinks everything is lock-solid-obvious when I can see a bunch of ways that it's not necessarily like that

especially considering I know he's just flat out wrong and pushing bad information regarding me

[drealmerz7]

I fail this game, I'm really sorry team

I hate bringing personal life shit into games but you need an explanation - my life has been a complete wreck, and when it was Night1 my head was not in the game at all, AT ALL. I had forgotten I could track. I barely got the animal message off in time for the deadline and had flaked on my ability to track entirely (it doesn't stick out in the PM, it's just in a sentence about my animal companion "blah blah you and you can track each night blah blah blah")

I really hate when abilities aren't more explicit, I'm a very visual person and I'd never forgotten if it was formatted like :

"you have an animal companion who grants these abilities:

1x Track - each night select a player blahb lah blah"

it's not like that at all

Seriously.

I fail.

[drealmerz7]

don't lynch me, I'm town and I'm strong and you need me

it's the Truth

[drealmerz7]

a game I was in just recently finished too, my focus will be more here and I will play better

I've really let this team and game down

I'm comfortable with andrius, shaz, culted, or pine lynch today, pine is my last choice

[drealmerz7]

it's crazy how many ppl I'm okay having DIE in this game

I go back and forth on persivul, very possibly scum but a little game-solving that doesn't seem manipulative-agenda pushing that I'd been seeing a lot of and I like that

I'd be ok letting him continue to live and much prefer the other 3 to die

you are like between those 3 and pers for comfort

[drealmerz7]

No, the pigeon -does- fit as animal messenger. There are, however, -CRAZY DRUIDS IN THE WIZARD OF WINES WINERY- that work for Strahd! Their leader has a Gulthias Staff, and is -CRAZY-. They also summon -Blights-. That's what Dreal is, if anything, and he's desperately fakeclaiming Ranger and fucking it up big time.

if I fakeclaim

I do a good job

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8668761

[drealmerz7]

confbias some more

[drealmerz7]

be with you after my meal pers

[drealmerz7]

dreal, what were you trying to accomplish with the message? Will you share the entire message with us?

I thought I could get a read on andrius as town or scum depending on how it all went.

My hope was that he was town and I could trust him with the information I gave him, but that if he wasn't I was okay with what I was telling him because I still thought it'd serve in finding scum.

I actually asked the mod about what andrius received (how the message got delivered) and he sent me a copy of the PM he sent to andrius - and yes, I can and will share the entire message and how it was delivered:

first, andrius saw a pidgeon watching him. it opened its mouth (mouth?) and to andrius' surprise a voice came from the bird, it said (and this is my exact message since I am allowed to repeat myself):

I have a similar, stronger CC (ability) to Jason plus more -
it was right not to lynch me - I hope you're a True Friend.

---
I put "True Friend" in there so that at a later point I could strategically use that phrase and signal something to andrius. nothing in particular in mind, it's just a signaler and I wanted to put in a signaler in case I ever needed one

at the least, if he doubted that I sent the message and I found it important to confirm it to him that I did, I could do that

I wasn't sure if he'd believe it was from me, you know?

I SO FUCKING WISH I would have signed it a different way (I have 3 choices on how to sign it, my name, Ranger, or anonymous)

[drealmerz7]

.
drealmerz is all over the place.

amazing
it's almost as if I'm trying to not get NKed

[drealmerz7]

andrius, how do you feel about being called 'andy' ?

[drealmerz7]

I'll do what I can.

do what you can to have 1 scum-read accompanied by a case, that'd be swell

[drealmerz7]

still pretty sure andrius is scum after that move with my msg btw

so many reasons that is a scum move

0 reasons that is a town move

[drealmerz7]

... you're just pulling a MagnaofIllusion and scumreading anyone who doesn't play like you expect them to.

this is a fallacy you realize?

I do expect players to play to their wincon, yes, I don't do much expecting, but that, I expect

[drealmerz7]

oops

UNVOTE: pine
VOTE: andriusVOTE:

will also do culted or shaz today

no more pine

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: andrius

[drealmerz7]

you've said what you think, andrius, repeat it some more

I'm not mad, I've caught scum, because it was a scum move

shall I repeat myself some more?

fuckman

[drealmerz7]

pine, you don't decide who we lynch

especially when you're the leading wagon

you can cast a vote, great, if you don't want to cast it for andrius, fine

but don't pretend to dictate EoD at this point

[drealmerz7]

andrius, detail your thought process for us, from the point you received the message, to the point where you asked shaz about pidgeons, please

[drealmerz7]

I wait to hear his thought process as I asked then you'll get my more detailed case on him

[drealmerz7]

andrius that is not really what I was looking for

you're simply repeating the outward things you already did and said

those aren't cohesive thoughts nor are they allowing me to get insight into your process on WHY you behaved as you did

you say it's how you play it as towny and we play towny differentl

show me how what you did is towny, how it is helpful to town, why it is town-motivated to do what you did as you did it

[drealmerz7]

don't you recognize a password/codeword when you see one?

what sense does it make for you to out the True Friend in the thread?

why did you think I put it there? To call you a True Friend with capital letters so it would be extra warm and special????

you say you view what I did and am as towny, soooo, why are you not thinking "what is this guy's town-mentality for sending me this and how can I help him serve town with it?" did you think that at all?

what pro-town sense does it make to out someone else's abilities to ANY degree? the message, what was in the message about my abilities, and the talk that all that YOU did made happen to make me reveal myself, how does you doing that serve anything for town?

if I wanted to simply out all of that shit, I could say at the start of D2 "hey everyone, I can send messsages and I was going to send andrius this message:

lalalalaalthemessageIactuallysentandriuslalalala" but hey, I think it just makes sense to tell you all this and reveal it all. there you go. questions? oh what did I mean by more powerful than jason, okay, let me just tell everyone..."

NOOO

makes no sense

[drealmerz7]

this dialogue can happen today and not distract
I'm worried about not being alive tomorrow, you realize?
I can't believe I didn't fucking track

total fail and I will have a hard time forgiving myself and I tried blaming the mod but in my head I know it is my responsibility and I am really GRRRR over it (first time ever had the ability to be a tracker too! GRAHhhhhh) - team should be pretty upset and for those that don't believe me who are town will be rightfully upset with me after the game, especially if I die N2 having provided no tracking for us at all AND no survival of a mission and just caused a huge shitblah because I chose a bad message target

*sigh*

^^^^ it's all genuine too, ppl ^^^^

[drealmerz7]

culted, shaz, or pers then

[drealmerz7]

yep
said some some post ago he's #2 after you

[drealmerz7]

all he's done I don't really get anything scummy from it

it pretty much seems game solvey contemplative towny

the cases (?) on him suck majorly too

[drealmerz7]

he's lurky because there is a fucking shitload of content out here already and we should be set to vote

he's shared his thoughts, he's not in the fray, he's probably wayyy ready for the day to be over

I'm not trying to speak for him, that is just the feel/read I have about it

where is he scummy? lurky isnt' scummy, show me the scummy and then I'll consider the scum-lurkerlihood, but, it's D2 and lurkers aren't really where I tend to go on D2, D3 yes, but, even so, he's provided enough views and content that I don't even find him lurky, just done with the long fucking Day, and I'd be too if I weren't part of what is going on

[drealmerz7]

just not nearly as comfortable with him as those others

and, dunn, I'm starting to think you do look tasty if none of those others options are options

low-player count, you are lurking and not gamesolving or commenting on any of this shit hardly

you do need to go if you don't step up NOW

[drealmerz7]

I'd prefer to lynch someone scummy though

make the case on who

[drealmerz7]

yeah, I'm asking, what sense does that make, especially to lay it on extra thick? it doesn't make sense as buddying at all

it's just words signifying allied with me and something I could use later

[drealmerz7]

this whole perspective you have about it is a suspicious one, yet you keep claiming to think I am/was towny and it was towny message - it's inconsistent

[drealmerz7]

Are you honestly fucking telling me that you don't think Dreal was targeting me for a lynch despite him outright saying "Lynch this scumfuck" several times?

"waaahhhhh a guy no one is listening to wanted to lynch me and cast his vote on me waahhhhhhwahhhhhhhhhhhh"

[drealmerz7]

just going to call you ZERO, cause that's your skill level at this game

[drealmerz7]

there's no way I can vote wez here
#2 TR PLUS 2 of my top SRs are there

sorry pine if you're town, there's enough question I'm okay voting you to avoid no lynch
if you're town you've done a premium job leading up to your lynch trying to make pathways for us to figure out moving forward, thank you

if you're scum, you've done a premium job leading up to your lynching unintentionally showing pathways for us to figure out moving forward, thank you

VOTE: pine

pedit - dunn, don't make me start a flash wagon on you

[drealmerz7]

what about the propunderance of protectification that town seems to have? - and if you pair that with what you have and my track...

and uhhhh, very sorry, obviously not been fully with the game, can you tell me who cleared culted?

[drealmerz7]

that's what I thought but wasn't sure

culted could be GF strahd, we all realize, yes?

as could kuroi

[drealmerz7]

as could anyone there are results on that aren't goonish

[drealmerz7]

omg you are the one fearmongering about ME

geezus

[drealmerz7]

fearmonger some more!! woww

[drealmerz7]

yes you keep saying that to cover your ass, sure

but you're still taking a valid point I brought up and exploded it into actual fear rather than something to keep under consideration

keep it scumming it up as you've been

[drealmerz7]

don't speak for eveyrone

you are an individual
just because you haven't forgotten the fact

doesn't mean it doesn't make sense for me to bring it back up

especially when I'm processing what I was processing

you're just making shit, man

keep it up, it'll be overwhelmingly undeniable before long and you'll get rope

[drealmerz7]

[drealmerz7]

both of these wagons have gross composition

everyone

be less scummy, more towny

thanks

[drealmerz7]

we will see after the wez flip and what unfolds, won't we, sly?

[drealmerz7]

oh shit missed the govern

fucking fuck

[drealmerz7]

if strahd is not GF he can likely govern

maybe both?

[drealmerz7]

if it is real I don't see it as pro-town move at all

[drealmerz7]

ohfuck I was just about to unvote

[drealmerz7]

UNVOTE: pine

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: slysly

if it is real you must dieee

[drealmerz7]

What's that governor thing?

always just go to the wiki

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Governor

[drealmerz7]

no ad. hom. here, zero

[drealmerz7]

I loved the setup and mechanics. Balance was waywayy wayyyy off, it wasn't swingy (I'm fine with swingy) - this was too town-sided by SO MUCH. Still interesting, but, yeah, town shouldn't feel like they accomplished much it was handed to us. Andy patting himself and everyone on the back is laughable, imo.

Sorry, I let scum get under my skin and brought bad energy. IMO there were obvious shit-scum tactics being used and I didn't know how it wasn't obvious and so I get frustrated doubt myself but know in my gut it's just shit-scum and when ppl play like that there's not much to do - I really don't know how you all didn't see it and it's not about me knowing my alignment, but learn to recognize it in the future because ppl shouldn't get away with playing like that - and learn genuine drealmer rage, it will help you in the future. Anyway, for me, it's always just in the game and nothing personal, other than me thinking they're just a shitplayer, and that will remain until shown otherwise.

THANKS VERY MUCH CLUMSY!!!

[drealmerz7]

:þ

I've played mafia with day-missions before (kind of resistance style?) - I LOVE IT and always look for games like that

I will be trying to impliment such mechanics at some point into a game - very well done clumsy, regardless of balance

[drealmerz7]

that must have been fun to be scum, shaz, knowing all that

sorry our energies rubbed as they did

[drealmerz7]

I usually try to flavor up my night actions for theme games...I just didn't have the energy for here. really let this game down ):