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Post Post #325  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:00 am

In post 322, callforjudgement wrote:I really like the idea of autogenerated player pages that list game history. (I assume you've got a game history database somewhere to draw it from?)

We don't, and to make one we'd either have to make some really clever web-crawler or a heck of a lot of manual input.

It's a cool idea though, it would require some form of required/automated logging of who played what game.

The current tables we have don't list what players where in which game, and the current one I use for displaying game results per setup doesn't have that information either.
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Post Post #326  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:01 am

I've not been all too active the last few months and not much has changed as such, but the scummies category now looks better and is almost done.
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Post Post #327  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:46 am

the current tables actually do list player roles as well as other really useful information and the code to generate wiki pages would actually be really simple

anyway i guess ill take this all as a cue that the project is worth doing
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Post Post #328  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:12 am

In post 327, Psyche wrote:the current tables actually do list player roles as well as other really useful information and the code to generate wiki pages would actually be really simple

anyway i guess ill take this all as a cue that the project is worth doing

If you could find make a way to get all that data and automatically format it to MediaWiki syntax I'd be willing to pitch in and make the needed template. It would basically be a modified better looking version of Template:SetupHistory
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Post Post #329  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:34 am

do i really need to go through the extra step of converting it?
why can't i organize the data according to the template in the first place?
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Post Post #330  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:47 pm

As in, if you can make something that parses the existing tables and outputs said data in a format I'll provide I can help out with a template. The current tables are useless, they only display the table on that page and can't be used like the one in the template I linked selectively.
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Post Post #331  (ISO)  » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:11 pm

i'm having trouble following, i think because i don't understand how mediawiki works

how about i derive show you an example excel spreadsheet (of your games!) and from there we chat about i can convert that into whatever format you have in mind?
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Post Post #332  (ISO)  » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:25 pm

In post 331, Psyche wrote:i'm having trouble following, i think because i don't understand how mediawiki works

how about i derive show you an example excel spreadsheet (of your games!) and from there we chat about i can convert that into whatever format you have in mind?

That should work.
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Post Post #333  (ISO)  » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:39 pm

Mini Theme
viewtopic.php?p=7223303#p7223303

Large Theme
useless

Mini Normal
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549

Large Normal
viewtopic.php?f=55&t=37208

Micros
useless

Open
useless

Newbie
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... me/History

maybe it's pointless if i can only do Newbies, Mini Normals, Large Normals, Mini Normals and Mini Normals?
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Post Post #334  (ISO)  » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:46 pm

Not that pointless. Newbie and Mini Normal games are the ones where I have the most trouble remembering which ones I played in (and thus it would be a useful starting point for me if I made my own wiki page), because they all blend into each other after a while.

Unfortunately, it's also not as ideal as it could be. I know there are players who've played in a lot more Themes than I have.
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Post Post #335  (ISO)  » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:36 am

There's an archive of opens and newbies on the wiki I believe, I know at least opens has one which I recall needed updsting. I used it for the open setup history.
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Post Post #336  (ISO)  » Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:42 am

List of Open Games, doesn't have the player names though, that would require manual work going into each linked thread.

Newbie Game/History, Games 500-749 contains links to pages with the names and results of at least a tonne of newbies. N recently made this so it can be too out of date.
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Post Post #337  (ISO)  » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:47 am

What kinds of sites are blocked for links on the wiki?
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Post Post #338  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:53 am

I don't know, but I can't change it either I think.
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Post Post #339  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:08 am

In post 338, wgeurts wrote:I don't know, but I can't change it either I think.


I ask because I wanted to link every game I had recollection of playing and I couldn't for some reason.
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Post Post #340  (ISO)  » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:19 am

There are work-arounds however, I'm currently about to board a boat so I'll get back to you on that later if I can remember how.
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Post Post #341  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:43 am

How about adding AI and NAI to the terms and abbreviations?
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Post Post #342  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:32 pm

I agree that NAI at least needs to be added.
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Post Post #343  (ISO)  » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:07 pm

NAI is a very recent term, I think. I don't remember seeing it as early as last year. (The term that was typically used before then was "null"; nowadays that's typically only used for a person you can't read, rather than for a statement that contains no value for reads.)

Still, it's caught on to the extent that we should probably explain what it means.
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Post Post #344  (ISO)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:55 am

well I started to update people pages here : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69832

I'm using a code to generate tables and stuff but I'm adding the data by hand. There are so many statistical data that can't be automatically extracted anyway but after making these pages they will be. This might be usable for further analyzes and they look cute :]
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Post Post #345  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:33 am

If you want help I'm back from the limbo for a while at least, need to pick this up some time again as well.
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Post Post #346  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:34 am

sure

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Post Post #347  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:12 pm

I'm running a Telephone Pictionary right now, and something weird just happened. Here's the index. I made a page for Chain H--and clicking on it from the index will take you there--but it still appears as a redlink anyway. What's going on?
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Post Post #348  (ISO)  » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:55 pm

I can't tell if I fixed it or if it otherwise got fixed in the process of me trying to, and I don't understand what caused the problem, but at least it seems to be working now.
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Post Post #349  (ISO)  » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:22 am

so i mean to return to this soon, but one big thing we need to do is more heavily brand the wiki. Every page should make it obvious that it's a mafiascum thing and contain a linkback to the forum.
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