Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

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Post Post #250  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:13 am

Newbie 1743: Rask sort of disappeared lot of times, but everytime he posted, we started townreading him back.
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Post Post #251  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:30 am

This is a url to the game in question btw

Just from the bits we've seen of Rask I feel a lot more emotional depth coming from him but i also haven't fully reviewed this game to make a super strong meta-read

i mostly followed this one up to D1 and also looked at the very end because i planned on replacing into Zyf's slot but nexus told me that pre-game subs have to be given to you by Mina (they're taken directly from the queue) :dead:
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Post Post #252  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:10 pm

In post 229, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:and i'll try to cut down on hyperposting a bit, reading 9 pages of one-liners is really annoying and i'm really bad at exacerbating that :dead:


It's fine! I will try to adjust myself! [not speaking for anyone else]

In post 231, schadd_ wrote:not sure where those questions come from. all i was saying is that when someone votes for me, it makes them seem scummy to me, given that i know my alignment. the second question doesn't have an answer; town can totally misread me. the first question doesn't make sense to me; if gayreen is scum, he is going to want to lynch a town during the day (which he would try to do by saying he has a scumread on them). he will also want to kill a town during the night.


This was where the question is coming from. Why voting you is scummy? Are you confirmed town or something? The fact you know your alignment is irreverent when your trying to read others intention. It just feels like a faulty logic but maybe I'm wrong.

In post 232, ThinkBig wrote:Hey all! I have off today and tomorrow (WOO HOO) so let me take some time to catch up!


What happened?

In post 236, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:but i'm kind of at a point where i have to pick two in {schadd, shade, matt} to be very confident in their townieness to get that game-winning townbloc (very confident in rask, you, and GAYreen town)


Can you explain your line of thinking please? I really like to see how you will explain your reads.

I also think rask not being around is not scummy even though I don't know them. Think big is scummier for not being around cause they have some heat on them.

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Post Post #253  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:12 pm

anyway I like to see what will happen if I just vote Thinkbig

VOTE: Vote : ThinkBig

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Post Post #254  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:14 pm

In post 253, Shade wrote:anyway I like to see what will happen if I just vote Thinkbig

Simple, ThinkBig will earn another vote. What's so addicting about it?
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Post Post #255  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:26 pm

That was my first vote, Why are you trying to make me feel it was worthless.

I think Thinkbig is avoiding this game. I like to see his answers to my questions.

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Post Post #256  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:33 pm

In post 252, Shade wrote:Can you explain your line of thinking please? I really like to see how you will explain your reads.


On the townreads or why I need 2 to basically win?

On needing 2 more townreads, basically my townread on Creature is based on a really bulletproof (at least so far) tell in seeing how engaged he is in a game; Rask has posts like , , and all have this naturalness to them in reaction time and tone that I think scum, who already know everyone's alignment, have a difficulty faking; GAYreen because I think from what little I've played with him has this naivety that reads really strongly as curious town (when I played against him as scum, most of his attention was focused on discrediting the townbloc i was forming while coasting and not really scumhunting, which was key to him winning). These are all really strong reads that I don't see myself being wrong on, while my townreads on you, schadd_, and matt I think are likely true but I think based on schadd_'s experience and just my general idea of the three of your personalities can possibly be wrong (and also the easiness of the game if we just found all the town and the scum were everyone else).

from a game theory perspective (i.e., why you basically need 5 townreads that are correct to win although it's technically 4), we have 2 mislynches before XYLO (i use this as a cross between LYLO and MYLO). this means if i correctly identify 4 other townies, then i theoretically can just powerlynch the other slots and win the game 100% of the time. Having 5 to really focus in on though is even safer because we can't always just speedlynch scummy slots (and taking it slow enough gives you time to form associative reads).
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Post Post #257  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:37 pm

also the point that we obviously could be wrong about TB is why we want to know his thoughts regardless of alignment and why him being the leading wagon is going to stall the game

he's reading the game with the perspective he's confirmed town, so if he's actually town this is a perspective we need. if he's scum then we get a thought process we can scrutinize and either we lynch him because it seems scummy or he gets the chance to maybe be let off the hook if his POV reads as valid enough to not lynch (although as we already discussed with the claim this is probably a bad idea).
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Post Post #258  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:39 pm

I think rakkar and Shade are more likely to flip scum.
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Post Post #259  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:39 pm

ThinkBig's claim sort of makes me feel if it's scum it's suicide.
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Post Post #260  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:41 pm

I really just want TB and rakkar to participate :dead:
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Post Post #261  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:42 pm

Okay

VOTE: rakkar
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Post Post #262  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:47 pm

Hm...

VOTE: Shade

Creature, you might be onto something here actually.

But in that case this is the better vote.
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Post Post #263  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:49 pm

VOTE: Shade
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Post Post #264  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 pm

and now we wait for people to ask why

early game can be so awkward :(
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Post Post #265  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 pm

I find it awkward we're working with PoE rather than scumreads.
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Post Post #266  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:52 pm

I think scum usually votes like this:
In post 253, Shade wrote:anyway I like to see what will happen if I just vote Thinkbig

VOTE: Vote : ThinkBig

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Post Post #267  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:53 pm

rakkar really hasn't done anything useful so far.
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Post Post #268  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:53 pm

Oops GAYreen is in prod danger.
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Post Post #269  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:53 pm

i mean you would say that because that's one of your tells :dead:

i say shade over rakkar because someone who's active and can respond to pressure (and for rakkar if it's shade/rakkar, is a buddy worth saving)

but the question for the audience here is why shade over TB

Creature wrote:Oops GAYreen is in prod danger.


yeah i shot him a message just now actually
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Post Post #270  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:54 pm

Because I think I think ThinkBig's claim was towny I think.
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Post Post #271  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:56 pm

In post 270, Creature wrote:Because I think I think ThinkBig's claim was towny I think.


let the newbies answer :(

but you're getting there. i still think TB has a shot of flipping scum tbh
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Post Post #272  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:23 pm

First if you know I'm going to question why you're voting me why you didn't answer that in the first place?

Second I didn't vote Thinkbig for his claim. I'm voting him because I want him to answer "why he claimed".

Third what about his claim is town-y?

Fourth What about my vote was scummy?

Fifth what is POE ? Point of elimination? If you hate that why you used it last page when you started striking people?

Sixth how is Think Big claim suicide? He just claim Vanilla. If he doesn't get lynched (which he won't cause you're town reading him for that vote) mafia has no reason to kill him anymore. You're making no sense.

Anyway. Bye for tonight.

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Post Post #273  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:25 pm

for that claim*

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Post Post #274  (ISO)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:27 pm

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