Mystic Mafia [Endgame]

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hello.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I have found you guys the first scum,

it is drealmerz7.

You're welcome.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

The second scum is Nahdia.

You're welcome.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Nahdia if the teenage ninja mutant turtles are the good guys who are the bad guys.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Vote: Nahdia

This is great day 1 lynch, good job guys I'll share credit around to everyone.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm willing to lynch anyone who claims post restriction.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Dude that pr doesnt actually hurt communication even if hes making it up idgaf

and will have a difffffffffferrrrrent post rrrrrestricted everrrrryday

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm willing to lynch anyone who claims post restriction.

and yet

Yet I'm not voting him?

Yeah Nahdia is stronger scumread right now. The post restriction lynch is more of a policy lynch so scum don't get away with faking that for the whole game.

Dreamdude slighly less scummy than I initially thought hmmmm. He needs to stop with the soft-claiming bs though.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Dude that pr doesnt actually hurt communication even if hes making it up idgaf

Also "if he's making it up" implies he's scum and making it up.

So why don't you care if he's scum who's making it up?

Yeah Spyrex good wagon too. Nahdia/Spyrex battle of the century to determine who will be sacrificed to the turtle god.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Arrite that's fair.

Can you elucidate me on Nahdia then cuz I clearly missed something.

Post 20 scum. Then her AtE cemented her as scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I think Dunnstral may be for highlighting what he thought was a soft in thread. Rather than, you know, taking it back to the scumthread and parsing what it may actually allude to.

I mean, he coulda done both, but my inclination is to think someone wouldn't bring up the same topic in two places. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe not.

Ok this is scum because ____________________________________________________________ .

You really don't see it?

Soft whiteknighting, assuming daychat, picking contrarian view so it look original and townie, super wishy wash.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Dude that pr doesnt actually hurt communication even if hes making it up idgaf

Also "if he's making it up" implies he's scum and making it up.

So why don't you care if he's scum who's making it up?

Yeah Spyrex good wagon too. Nahdia/Spyrex battle of the century to determine who will be sacrificed to the turtle god.

Actually one of my best games way back in the day i made one up

And ive been in games where others have as well

So lets not jump to conclusions mat here

Umm,

So did you do it as scum or as town?

You also dodged my original point which was - do you or do you not care about scum fakeclaiming post restriction?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

note that sad was also fosing spyrella while doing nothing to further his read on him

Are you fucking high?

I'll take whatever you're having.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Zito so basically we scumread different things.

Why do you have to get sarcastic and defensive about it if it was of no concern to you?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Do you feel the need to join in on a conversation to look like you're busy doing stuff?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I think Dunnstral may be for highlighting what he thought was a soft in thread. Rather than, you know, taking it back to the scumthread and parsing what it may actually allude to.

I mean, he coulda done both, but my inclination is to think someone wouldn't bring up the same topic in two places. Maybe. I dunno. Maybe not.

Ok this is scum because ____________________________________________________________ .

P sure like literally whatever I said here you were gonna argue my point. Is that true or not? Why did you ask a question with an intent of going against whatever I say?

Because you went: try to throw shade on me not voting Nacho -> Questioning my read on Nahdia -> When I give my response as to why you throw shade on that and reply sarcastic.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Camnhydra is town though.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Pirate mollie is prob town too actually.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Staeg is town.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Pirate mollie is prob town too actually.

Because of their posts or because I'm voting them?

No their posts where you're voting doesn't matter.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

What are you talking about,

I don't care if you're my top scumread or not my reads change all the time. Do town stuff I'll town read you.

Do you wanna solve the game with me or not buddy.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I can roll with Zito

Vote: Zito

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

sad, if you really think that spyrella is scummy then why no vote?

No thanks there is already enough pressure there I'll just let him scumpost more.

My vote there won't help the wagon more, a boring waste of my vote. If you would like, I'm on him in spirit.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Infinity wagon might quite possibly be the worst wagon so far.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Papa Zito (3): Kagami, SED,

Feelsbadman.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Yes you voted someone else I think.

Welcome back to Best Wagon though.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Yes you voted someone else I think.

Welcome back to Best Wagon though.

Hey you

You didn't talk to me about zito

He's scum.

What else would you like to know.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

SED what do you think about these votecount shenanigens

Yeah why is my name SED can't tell if it's part of the game or not :/

Yes you voted someone else I think.

Welcome back to Best Wagon though.

Hey you

You didn't talk to me about zito

He's scum.

What else would you like to know.

I would like to know why.

He got a role PM that told him he is scum. It's usually how games go. Random.org -> Assign roles.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

It's okay it's made up anyway.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Weeee I love votes on me.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I like RC's posting so far. There's one line that I don't like because I think it's heavily used by scum but I'll keep an eye out for it to see if there's other small similar red flags.

Infinity wagon still bad and he's still town (esp post 253).

Zito still sliding under the radar.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

My biggest problem with Nahdia is from what I've seen her townplay she plays p... hmm what's the word? Confident? Blunt? Just more of "matter-of-fact" style. Like "X is doing this" "Y is town" "Z is scum". Here she seems to be waffly queen.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

All I can say in response to this is that yeah,

that's pretty much on target with my standard level of sass I play mafia with

.

Nah here it def seems more... controlled and carefully planned out. Just overall extremely contrived.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Yes, I'm blunt, but how on earth did you read DEFCON 4.0 and somehow get "confident" as a descriptor for me? The fuck are you on?

See this is why I didn't wanna use that word.

Not "confident" as in you know what you are doing or you think you've solved the game or something.

Confident as in it looks like you believe in what you are doing. Like you came in guns a blazing and said you were gonna take counterintelligence, and had a plan, etc.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Dunn why are you changing votes faster than a hooker changes clothes.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Are you really gonna get your vote on and off me like that without mentioning anything about me?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

camntuki/Mollie/RedCoyote/

Nacho/Nahdia

This is terrible.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Infinity

This is terrible.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Let me whip out my good ol' tier lists

RC, Staeg, mollie, dreamboi
Infinity, camnhydra
Kagami, Dunn, Spyrex
Nacho
Nahdia, Zito

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I don't like how you're just repeating your reads over and over but not trying to convince people or anything, and I don't see your thought process for how you got there either.

Hi welcome to my play.

If I'm really in the mood at times when I think I've caught scum I'll usually push that. If you're looking for ~convincing~ people then I'm not about that life. But the people who ask for convincing arguments are usually the shallow players. Because if you really cared, you'll know why I'm voting Zito and why I want pressure there.

If you don't like me "repeating my reads over and over" feel free to ignore them, my reads are dynamic and I usually try to keep tabs on most people through posts that catch my eye.

As for steag and dreamboi, they both read tonally good and I have good gut read on their posts so far.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Are you really gonna get your vote on and off me like that without mentioning anything about me?

You are talking about yourself plenty, srsly.

What is love...

Baby don't hurt me...

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Yeah but for real choose your read on me camnhydra I'm not gonna stay in the limbo where you can conveniently give a read on me later.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Man everything nahdia types looks contrived as hell am I just deep in confirmation bias.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Even her response to me scumreading her looked so fake, like "oh you're scumreading me it's okay I don't mind you're wrong though, but it's k I still think you're town" like my scumread is supposed to dissolve because ""it's k I'm town" or something???

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

you don't solve the game D1

Maybe you don't my boi.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

MOLLIE can we talk about reads.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

NAHDIA who are your 3 strongest scumreads.

I looked at defcon again b/c I thought I had asked you a similar question but apparently I asked:

LLD, Cheetory, Toogeloo

Is there something you're waiting to happen before you vote or..?

Hi name your top 3 town reads so far.

Idgaf about the reason you can pull them out of thin air for all I care or random.org them.

I want to have you on record naming 3 players that are reading town for you.

Implying you were scumreading a lot of people and not townreading anyone. And you were town.

Do you do the opposite as scum???

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

is this game weird for anyone else? It feels like it's just flying in all directions.

Holy

Moly

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

if pple are townreading dreamz/nacho they need to speak now other than spyrella.

I'm townreading dream btw.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

if pple are townreading dreamz/nacho they need to speak now other than spyrella.

I'm townreading dream btw.

okay so what do you think about nacho?

Scum lean.

He's second to last tier

RC, Staeg, mollie, dreamboi
Infinity, camnhydra
Kagami, Dunn, Spyrex
Nacho
Nahdia, Zito

Though I think I wanna move camnhydra down a tier I think.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Its more everyone leaping up his tube for flimsy ass reasons.

Nacho himself is the conch. Its the fact so many went all lord of the.flies over him over such a banana reason that is the suspect.

This is so

so

so

so

scummy.

Literally like a couple even mentioned anything like a soft attack against nacho. Like I'm prob the person who's scumreading him the hardest, and even THAT isn't that hard.

Talk about hardcore whiteknighting.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Spyrex please points out these people that are rushing head over heels trying to incriminate nacho or trying to lynch him.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

HOLY WHERE ARE THESE "EVERYONE" AND "SO MANY" GOING AFTER POOR NACHO????

IS THERE SOME COURAGEOUS FELLOW IN THE CROWD WHO CAN PROTECT NACHO FROM THESE EVILDOERS?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

WHAT'S THIS

SOMEONE STEPPED OUT FROM THE CROWD

BUT WHO COULD IT BE THEY ALL GASPHED.

"I AM SPYREX, PROTECTOR OF THE WEAK" HE SHOUTS

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

LITTLE DID EVERYONE KNOW

SIR SPYREX HAS A SECRET AGENDA

HE WAS SECRETLY A HATEFUL EVILDOER HIMSELF!

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

"BUT THAT CAN'T BE" THE CROWD SHOUTED

SIR SPYREX IS A HIGHLY ESTEEMED MEMBER OF THE TOWN SOME RANDOM PERSON SAID

"YEAH, SCREW ANYONE SAYING FACTS" PAPA ZITO SAID

HE REALIZED HIS MISTAKE THEN AND THERE, WHEN EVERYONE OPENED THEIR EYES AND DECIDED TO TURN ON THEM.

HAPPY ENDING THE END

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

so papa zito is your scumbuddy, SAD?

Are you having trouble deciphering the play.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So dream and i just randomly decided to have this conversation? And camn talking about a bropass just was for funsies?

Okay me and dream scumread him.

Camnhydra at BEST nullreads him, seeing as their question was if you're townreading them or not and they have him in their bs townbloc thing.

So 2 people.

2

people

is "everyone" and "so many".

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hmm

Is everyone a mystic? Even scum?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Oh, that's actually quite helpful for me.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hmm,

I was gonna say something, but nvm I guess.

Though I think a bit of role talk would probably help us, but people make a big deal out of it on Day1 always :/

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

HOLY

MOLY

WE NEED MORE ZITO VOTES

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'll admit some of what Spyrex says sounds townie.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Camnhydra has some serious scummy things someone remind me why I was leaning town on them.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Ugh Staeg and RC's avatars look so similar I think I have them jumbled up in my head.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

WAIT THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD

CAN I JOIN PLEASE

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Oh I can stop semi-ignoring Dunn and Kagami now lol

I'm still not sure how to read Dunn though at all even though I was scum with him. He's changing his votes a lot more in this game I guess? Which could possibly indicate he's actually thinking things through rather than just having contrived reads, idk.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Everyone- it might seem like Im tunneling, but im not. Everyone knows this game is thin and weird.. and I keep rereading, and keep coming back to SpyScum.

What do you think about Zito.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm liking feisty Spyrex.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Everyone- it might seem like Im tunneling, but im not. Everyone knows this game is thin and weird.. and I keep rereading, and keep coming back to SpyScum.

What do you think about Zito.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I feel like I am not being incredibly unreasonable for wanting the vast majority of the game lynched.

Hi madam do you have a moment to talk about scum Zito?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

And you are right- his reaction is pretty insane. I think he just knows he is caught by me.. and might as well go out with a bang.

Yeah that's like

def not how I'm reading his reaction at all.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I feel like I am not being incredibly unreasonable for wanting the vast majority of the game lynched.

Hi madam do you have a moment to talk about scum Zito?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

(subject to change pending reread but atm yes)

Holy

Moly

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I will be the official translator for all of Zito's posts.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Your last two votes.



(subject to change pending reread but atm yes)

"See I have no actual thoughts on the game, but I will pretend to agree with a strong townread player, in the hopes of getting on their good side

But sheeping looks way too obv, I will pretend to care enough about the game to include me 'rereading' in the future, look at me guys I'm evaluating my own reads and actually ~scumhunting~ can you believe it."

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

mollie I think we're in sync here what does it mean

"Mollie I'm trying to buddy up to you please talk to me and give me something to do so I look like I'm actively contributing."

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Camnhydra is also scummy af holy they also keep dropping this "My hydra partner is doing this in PT" "I've been talking to the mod about this" and it looks like they're subtly doing it so someone picks up on it and townreads them on it or something but it looks fake as hell.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Nacho needs to explain his apparent post restriction (lets entertain the fact it's real ) and any consequences because he failed to roll an f or r in a few posts.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I will be the official translator for all of Zito's posts.

Don't quit your day job.

Dw my man I am doing this free of charge out of the goodness of my heart.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

It's opportunistic for the exact reason I said it is; because Zito's posts are awkward. BUT, I added, there's nothing actually scum indicative about them. Hence; opportunistic.

I'm p sure I've had a Zito scumread way longer than just his recent posts that you feel are awkward.

It's because everything he has done this game feels like he looks like he wants to contribute but at the same time it looks like he's not scum-hunting he's just using cheap tricks that look like buddying and joking.

He kinda did a similar thing in defcon but here it feels way more fake because there he was doing his own thing so it looked natural and original.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Hey pal, I'm sure you want to give opinions on Kagami

She's probably town I liked her posts where she pointed out Zito was doing the thing of "hey guys I'm a turtle just like you guys".

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I like this post too I think scum would be too scared to discuss this

Btw, Staeg, from what I've seen here, turtle-ness is probably pretty important.

I'd be willing to bet our role names are of the form: <flavored rolename>, a <Turtle/scumflavor> Mystic.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

And that's based off a preflip read on zito?

No regardless of Zito's alignment it was a good point that I think someone who's actively scumhunting would find.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

This is what I was talking about regarding camnhydra btw feels fake

is this game weird for anyone else? It feels like it's just flying in all directions.

Nope, I've spent the past few days bitching to Fate about this.

My other half has been like "give Spy some space so I can get a clean read".. but I cant leave you alone.

My other half is inclined to agree.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I like this post too I think scum would be too scared to discuss this

Btw, Staeg, from what I've seen here, turtle-ness is probably pretty important.

I'd be willing to bet our role names are of the form: <flavored rolename>, a <Turtle/scumflavor> Mystic.

Not ifffff she had a ffffffakeclaim.

Okay you missed the whole point of my thought.

I'm saying even if she has a fake-claim or whatever scum are probably too scared to discuss setup because they don't wanna come off as role fishing or something. Kagami's post felt like "Idgaf I do what I want" type of rebel thing so it looks p natural.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

nah your reason for townreading kagami is bad

Actually it's p good because it works for me I tend to read the subtle thoughts and actions in people's posts.

For scumreading it's actually hit or miss because sometimes I attribute what people are doing incorrectly. But for townreading it's actually extremely accurate for me.

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Alright, I'm actually going to do a 180 and say I was probably wrong and Kagami is town

By all means however lets hear your logic since you're ready to criticize other people's thoughts but give nothing of yours.

It's easy to sit there and whine it's much harder to give substance.

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Making reference to the op pretty much only leads to prs flappin in the wind or someone getting lynched having a bonkers role

P much win win for scum

Okay so you're attributing something done badly to something scummy, which is incorrect logic.

I'm saying if she was scum she would've been to scared to post what she posted.

You are saying what she said benefits scum.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I feel like I am not being incredibly unreasonable for wanting the vast majority of the game lynched.

Hi madam do you have a moment to talk about scum Zito?

I am sorry sad, I didn't mean to ignore you. I am not sold on a scum!zito have you looked at dreamz?

I liked his first few posts they gave me extremely good gut vibe.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm saying theres nothing scary about posting it

No I'm p sure literally everyone and their mother gets an aneurysm whenever someone dares to discuss anything related to roles on Day 1 on this site.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Okay well the first could just be due to being alive in like 50 million games.

The second I would need to look specifically into.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Sigh.

Why do people argue over with me with how I form reads and what I see as town and then offer 0 suggestions.

Like great do you want a cookie.

I'll stick to whatever works for me thank you very much I'm not trying to convince anyone of Kagami-town it's not a dick measuring contest someone literally just asked me what I think of her.

It's the same stupid thing people pulled on me in Defcon I was saying UT was scum because I trusted Reck's gut read on him then people decided to go "Ohhhh no that's dumb thinking you can't just trust Reck's gut read like that". Meanwhile...

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm saying theres nothing scary about posting it

why do you think kagami is scum

Ohhh now i never said that

Great then why the fuck are you wasting my time let me read people how I want to if you're not gonna help me with the read in any way and just criticize everything I say.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Great then why the fuck are you wasting my time let me read people how I want to if you're not gonna help me with the read in any way and just criticize everything I say.

Crrrrriticizing should be parrrrt offfff the prrrocess.

No, constructive criticism is part of the process, and discussion of reads.

I've played enough games thanks for your concern on how I make reads, but I give 0 fucks. You can either point to things that you think Kagami has done that are causing you to read her one way or the other so I can take a look, or you can ignore why I'm making the read I am because at the end of the day at least I have a read based on something whereas you have nothing. Start by forming reads then we can talk.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Unvote
Vote: Zito

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

You missed New Year's Eve Masquerade Ball we could've paired on the dance floor in that game Zito :/

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I for one am enjoying the theater show camn and mollie are putting together very well planned

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Yeah prob not that interaction was just super weird.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'm not really down for an infinity or dream lynch people have not done a good job of convincing me they're scum.

Infinity esp feels like it's an icky lynch because of how many people said they're down for it.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

we could blitz a Zito lynch and I wouldnt cry.

Please this :/

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I am a town lyncher that gives town an automatic win if Zito is lynched day 1.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Free win guys literally you're welcome.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

it was a silly way to say it but ngl the camn case from you did feel iffy to me as well.

Oh you mean ISOing someone with the intention of just trying to find something to justify the vote jump on them instead of actually ISOing them to scumhunt and analyze things as unbiasedly as possible is scummy?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Unvote
Vote: Zito

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Zito we could've had a nice lovely dance if you didn't draw scum :/

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I guess it's kind of unlikely that both spy and zito and scum given spyrex->zito interactions, still my favorites.

I agree.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Can we comprrrrromise somewherrrrre in that grrrrroup?

Yes Zito.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I'll be honest the only post from Zito that I kinda like is 818 but I just got finished playing a scum game where I basically did the same exact thing so it's def not outside the realm of possibilities of things scum can use.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

@Dayne I've talked with her enough in our pt to judge her alignment. Take my word for it or don't. You're just making suboptimal lynch choice which is

sad

cause I townread you.

See the thing is, being "townie" or "town-looking" is just NOT good enough. The wincon isn't "go look townie" it's "find scum". So far:

MDS has no scumreads
You have no scumreads
Shadow has NO reads
Dunn has NO reads
Maria has NO reads
Vedith has 1 read
Parama has 1 read
Cerb has done nothing
mhsmith has done nothing (except discuss setup early on ~so~ helpful wow)
Gamma has ????????? reads
Kagami has ????????? reads

Me and inspector have discussed more reads than I feel has been discussed in 70 pages of this thread.

Imagine the deadline was only 8 days for all of Day 1 like the other games. Seriously imagine that.

I'm gonna solve this game, just you wait!

I'm seriously considering blacklisting you.

If you win and are scum and it turns out this strategy of yours was intentional I will be blacklisting you and hope no mod ever makes the mistake of taking you into their game again.

If we lose I will place sole blame on you, I hope you know I'm way past the point of being humble. You are literally dragging the game down

But not having a lot of time to contribute is fine. Being "loyal" to the game or whatever and deciding to stick with it is fine. Being Christmas week is fine. Lack of scumhunting and being utterly useless is fine. You know what truly makes me angry about you? The fact, after knowing all this and knowing you're dragging your team down (no matter the team on actually), you still have the guts to solely contribute with sarcastic comments to avoid being force replaced and prod dodge.

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Here is an updated tier list

RC, mollie
Staeg, infinity, Kagami, dreamz
Dunn, Spyrex, Nacho
camnhydra
Nahdia, Zito

Man you people making me doubt on dreamz and moving him to tier 2 I hope you're happy.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

People I'm okay with lynching today:

Zito
Nahdia
Dunn

I will go on record saying I oppose a dreamz and infinity lynch today (and camnhydra too because I think I can get a better read on them anyway if they keep posting so no rush to lynch them)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

But im saying this to a game that wants to give camn a pass for meta and now wants to lynch zito for moonbeams so I'm not sure why i bother explaning

Okay why is he town.

Same thing you did with my read on Kagami.

Are you like the anti-reads person? You go against people's reads yet give no help or discussion or counter points or anything to work with and you sit there literally yelling or a 1v1.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

And if you're gonna say you have no read on him just like you did with Kagami and just shut down any discussion or reads other people have

Here you go http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Get a read, come back to the thread.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Here is an updated tier list

RC, mollie
Staeg, infinity, Kagami, dreamz
Dunn, Spyrex, Nacho
camnhydra
Nahdia, Zito

Man you people making me doubt on dreamz and moving him to tier 2 I hope you're happy.

People I'm okay with lynching today:

Zito
Nahdia
Dunn

I will go on record saying I oppose a dreamz and infinity lynch today (and camnhydra too because I think I can get a better read on them anyway if they keep posting so no rush to lynch them)

So why exactly am I lynchable?

Idk I can't read you that well anyway and I don't think I will be able to with your posting style. And you're not doing much useful stuff, just sliding under the radar.

You're basically the Jester of Masquerade Ball

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

(and camnhydra too because I think I can get a better read on them anyway if they keep posting so no rush to lynch them)

uhhhggg i realize this is projecting self-meta which zito just went off on infinity about but i drop this line as scum all the time. it's such a weak justification for keeping someone alive and like every time i see someone use it myself included there's something underlying it.

Okay well it's true whether you believe I'm lying or not.

Camnhydra at least is keeping the game interesting right now and keeping activity up and getting people involved.

Even if they're scum what they're doing is pro-town. And camn posts in a stream of consciousness style that is very reminiscent of myself. It's by far the easiest style for me to get a read on.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I would like dreamerz over Dunn.
Why? This gameday got a slow start with the holidays, IMO.
I think we are all just getting to where we would be HALFWAY through a normal Day 1. And Dunn is not a lurker, and we can dial him in better with some time. I think we'd be poorly served rushing a lynch on him.
Whereas dreamerz is lurky, content light, and game overloaded...and I don't really think we are gonna much more out of him.

Wait I thought you had an actual scumread on dreamz what happened.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Like I understand comparing activity and likely usefulness between nullreads when deciding on a lynch but I thought you had better reasons why are you falling back to a dumb justification reason.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

no but see, dreal town. and we're supposed to be lynching people who aren't town, you see.

Nahdia stop saying things I agree with I can't scumread you like this.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wait it fits into the plan of Nahdia whiteknighting dreamz so she gains credit when dreamz flips town okay cool beans.

Either way dreamz is town.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Me mollie kagami rc nacho and dunn to save his skin we lynching scum zito.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wait we need one more.

Dreamz you save your own skin too vote zito for glory.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Ugh infinity's posting is so bad but I still don't get a scumvibe from them just an arragont person who thinks he's a mafia legend trying to dictate how people should play while being an utter failure at the game.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

In the meantime would love it if people addressed stuff specifically at me, mollie for example you said you wanted to hear my thoughts more in-depth so it'd be nice if you could give me something specific.

This is the only post I get a scumvibe from actually on this page.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Okay I'll bite

Unvote
Vote: Nacho

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I will work with you on zito but we are gonna need to sell it to every1 else.

Are you down for nacho mollie?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

RC + Staeg need to be putting more effort into the game esp the latter because I think they're both town but being so aloof.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Well RC has fine content just need more... 'oomph' from him.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Here these are the wagons

Papa Zito (3): Kagami, Nachomamma8, pirate mollie
Nachomamma8 (3): Dunnstral, drealmerz7, Ser Arthur Dayne
camntsuki (3): SpyreX, Nahdia, Papa Zito
drealmerz7 (2): camntsuki, Staeg
Nahdia (1): RedCoyote
SpyreX (1): Infinity

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

P happy with either Zito and Nacho, obv prefer the former.

I'm also p sure camnhydra got to L-1 over the last 10 pages, so that was interesting.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

OH NOW YOU GET ODD YOUR ASS THANKS SED

I just wanted fate-senpai to notice meeee

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Okay yeah Zito can be done I think

Unvote
Vote: Zito

Idk how to feel about dreamz push on nacho it kinda makes me feel icky but not necessarily scummy prob just his posting style.

This should be L-2 on Zito because Nacho on him too.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

spyr is probably the only 1 who could talk me into zito but I think he will wise-up once he sees PZ is voting with him on camn, unless you see something else, spyrsquid?

Are you just bad at the game or plain refusing to read the game.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Spyrex has already said he has a townread on Zito.

How is someone townreading Zito gonna convince you on him wtf.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Tbf when someone says "quite likely" in mafia it means someone is p sure of it.

Because no one is 100% sure of anything in mafia unless you're scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

BAH

I DIED WTF FATE I WAS HAVING FUN.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wait so is Zito lynched yet???

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Congrats scum though!

I had fun the short time I was alive. Fun game, thanks peoples and Fate for modding + cool setup and flavor.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Wait so is Zito lynched yet???

Zito lived

But we can still lynch him right??? It's not too late?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Vote: Zito

Zito we could've had a nice lovely dance if you didn't draw scum :/