Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

[Creature]

and i'll try to cut down on hyperposting a bit, reading 9 pages of one-liners is really annoying and i'm really bad at exacerbating that

I'm keen to play but it feels pretty overwhelming to to see ten pages to read in less than 48 hours.

Fair

[Creature]

I'm asking this for everyone:

I was thinking, since it's a newbie game there is a veteran player in scum teams, but yeah I understand why that ruins the game now. Thanks.

Opinions on this?

[cassielle]

i dont see how Shade planned his first post. the ISO looks weird af though, definitely.

i think that bit from 225 is NAI, town wants to know that (because of easy win condition) but scum also wants to know that (say if theyre on a double-noob scumteam?) and the response is also NAI imo

[Creature]

Hey all! I have off today and tomorrow (WOO HOO) so let me take some time to catch up!

Prod received. Posting later tonight. V/LA until tomorrow.

-_-

[Creature]

(say if theyre on a double-noob scumteam?)

I'd expect him to be in a scumteam with an SE in that case.

[Creature]

mattblackguy - Town
GAYreenHamster - Town
Shade - Town
rakkar - Mafia
schadd_- Town
Raskolnikov (SE) - Town
ThinkBig (SE) - Mafia
gigabyteTroubadour (SE) - Town
Creature (IC) - Town

So did we win?

By the way, my previous post was 100% serious. I really do believe Rakkar, and ThinkBig are the mafia. Rakkar hasn't contributed anything to the game. He hasn't posted any opinions on anything that has gone on in this game so far, and hasn't posted any of his thoughts about the other players (who he thinks is town, who he thinks is scum etc.) I will not remove my vote from Rakkar unless he actually contributes something.

[Creature]

This looks really reckless for scum, but what bothers me is that he took 13 mins to make post 240.

What's your opinion?

[cassielle]

main reason i disagree: someone is going to think, "hey, im here to learn. so no matter what role i get, im going to want a mentor figure, right?" and then they look at their scumteam and see they have another noob, and theyre like "wait what? who the hell is going to help teach me this stuff???" so theyre gonna feel out of their depth. and because its a noob game they might feel someone messed up somewhere down the line and they got saddled with a second noob by mistake. but saying that in the thread is guarantee-lynch, so they ask "so would the scum have an SE or IC on their team always?"

i think itll be a 2-noob team if hes scum.

p-edit: mbg's read lists are ugly. let me look for his second readlist, its a MESS. it also DOES NOT follow from his first list in the least.

[Creature]

Yeah, Rask's a goner now.

[Creature]

Either he identified all town or he identified all scum, if that's the latter, he must be really confident, but I doubt he is.

[cassielle]

sorry that was his second. meant his first. behold:

So far I read both Rask, and Giga as town. To me it seems like Rask is trying to put some pressure on ThinkBig, and get more analysis from people, which seems like a town thing to do. I can't seem to put into words why I think Giga is town besides the fact that I think all of thier posts seem pro-town.(sorry for vagueness :/)

At first I didn't think anything of ThinkBig asking questions but him claiming at L-2 seemed very odd to me. Like (1) I don't think anyone had intent to lynch him especially when we have 13 days left in the day, still have plenty of discussion left, and 2 people still haven't posted. (2) A vanilla townie claim doesn't really have much weight to it, because wouldn't everyone claim vanilla townie on day 1? It's not like a power role would claim their actual role day 1 because they would know they would die that night, and all mafia would also claim vanilla townie.

I'm not sure what to think about Creature at the moment. It seems he's being vague with all his posts, and can't get a read on him.

Everyone else I'm pretty much null on.

(sorry if my reads/analysis sucks. I'm just typing what comes to mind, and would very much appreciate feedback on how I can improve)

p-edit: id say overconfident is best case scenario, but id rather have your take (considering conftown)

[Creature]

Oh wow, this Shade guy finally scum hunt, but it's actually just an empty vote.

anyway I like to see what will happen if I just vote Thinkbig

VOTE: Vote : ThinkBig

This is L2 I believe.

What do you think will happen?

[Creature]

185 looks like an easy readslist, not particularly scummy but not a reason to townread.

However 239 and 240 looks harsh.

[Creature]

That was my first vote, Why are you trying to make me feel it was worthless.

I think Thinkbig is avoiding this game. I like to see his answers to my questions.

Okay, understood.

[cassielle]

Oh wow, this Shade guy finally scum hunt, but it's actually just an empty vote.

anyway I like to see what will happen if I just vote Thinkbig

VOTE: Vote : ThinkBig

This is L2 I believe.

What do you think will happen?

lol you actually responded that way to him originally too. yeah shades def nullscum for me, same tier as mbg, for that very reason among the others youve mentioned. i dont think the response to your original response was worth treating from a town perspective, its not indignant so much as joking, with a thin and easily made up reasoning for the vote underneath

[Creature]

Shade seems like a total noob (or pretending). What would a total noob that got scum do?

[Creature]

1. mattblackguy
2. GAYreenHamster ?
3. Shade ? [not with think]
4. rakkar ?
5. schadd_
6. Raskolnikov (SE)
7. ThinkBig (SE) ?
8. gigabyteTroubadour (SE) ?
9. Creature (IC)

yeah this look about right.

[cassielle]

noobscum imo:

will panic and flounder a bit. they dont have guidance until night-talk.

will lurk a lot.

are going to be self-analytical, watching their words, persona, actions, etc.

will tend toward posts with polished presentation, low content, high word count.

will flail with reads (massive back and forth).

p-edit: i love that rask forgot to cross himself on that list lol -- sure, its final, but unless you didnt get a town role pm you should never want to keep your slot open to questioning. ever. you have no reason, it muddies the waters.

[Creature]

Most reads around page 14 and 15 feels like "Follow giga"

[cassielle]

oh and noobscum will also react poorly to being pressured/questioned because they have to just bs until something sticks, but they also cant be too inconsistent

p-edit: also had that vibe

[Creature]

p-edit: i love that rask forgot to cross himself on that list lol -- sure, its final, but unless you didnt get a town role pm you should never want to keep your slot open to questioning. ever. you have no reason, it muddies the waters.

Or he forgot.

[cassielle]

no way he forgot. question marks by al lthe others, but not on his name. hes saying he isnt scum (thats the question marks) but forgot to say he is def town as well (crossing out). i was surprised no one saw that.

[Creature]

I think your posts look fair, Cassiele. Though, I'm usually paranoid of players that directly comes with a case on someone.

[Creature]

no way he forgot. question marks by al lthe others, but not on his name. hes saying he isnt scum (thats the question marks) but forgot to say he is def town as well (crossing out). i was surprised no one saw that.

lol idk then

I doubt he would leave him unstriked because he's scum, so he must be really "messing up"

[cassielle]

re: paranoia: thats fair, but idk, i got no reason to act concerned by your paranoia i think? i back my stuff up and i definitely am not about to do anything anti-town (and hell if im acting anti town call me out).

tho if youre worried about the gbT part of my scumreads, id say pay attention after their next response tbh.

re: rask stuff: i think def messing up, but that combined with other behavior brings to mind huge scum. which is why hes in my top 3. id say give him a chance to wiggle out just in case but def lock his views/statements/stances down lol