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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:58 pm

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SnarkySnowman, you're annoying me.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:37 pm

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Game distribution is already a mod lie. This'll be fun.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:10 pm

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I'm already confused. And this is great. Gonna probably spend a lot of time experimenting.

You're annoying me.

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Post Post #50 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:12 pm

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Votecount 1.3
Radical Rat (2)
- 123456789, Suzune
Clumsy Phoenix (1)
- SlySly
123456789 (1)
- Chairman
Mas y Menos (1)
- ironstove
BTD6_Maker (1)
- Mas y Menos

Not Voting (9)
- BTD6_Maker, Gamma Emerald, Clumsy Phoenix, Radical Rat, shos, karnos, Tiershift, FaerieLord


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Mas y Menos has broken rule 13 seven times and must have the next (7) posts be 140 characters or less, as of post 52.
Clumsy Phoenix has broken rule 13 three times and must have the next (3) posts be 140 characters or less, as of post 52.

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Um... anyone notice the deadline...?

-Clumsy

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Post Post #52 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:25 pm

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Can someone make a vote here? I don't care who or who for.

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Post Post #53 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:34 pm

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Got it boss!
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Post Post #56 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:30 pm

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Why did you /in to this game then, if you thought this was stupid?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #7) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:35 am

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VOTE: BTD6_Maker
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Post Post #91 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:39 am

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Shazipzapzoople voted BTD6
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Post Post #97 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:57 am

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Stop trying to guess rules

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Post Post #118 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:18 am

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Because we solved them.

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Post Post #120 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:34 am

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In post 72, SlySly wrote:
In post 63, Radical Rat wrote:Interesting.
Either the votecount is lying, or our votes are being passively redirected.
We'll find out first lynch, I suppose.

-Radical Rat
It appears our votes are being placed on the person below who we actually voted for on the list on the OP.
Read the thread in future please

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Post Post #125 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:50 am

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Votecount 1.6
Mas y Menos (5)
- ironstove, Tiershift, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman
Gamma Emerald (4)
- Clumsy Phoenix, BTD6_Maker, karnos, Chairman
Radical Rat (3)
- 123456789, Suzune, SnarkySnowman
123456789 (1)
- Chairman
BTD6_Maker (1)
- Mas y Menos
SnarkySnowman (1)
- SlySly

Not Voting (4)
- Gamma Emerald, Radical Rat, shos, FaerieLord


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In post 106, Gamma Emerald wrote:4 people have voted me with shit-all reasoning.
FOS: Clumsy Pheonix, karnos, Mas y Menos
Why are you freaking out so much? It's the equivalent of an RVS wagon. We're less than 150 posts into the game. Also, why no FOS (which is ridiculous anyway) on BTD6?

-Clumsy
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Post Post #127 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:57 am

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In post 106, Gamma Emerald wrote:4 people have voted me with shit-all reasoning.
FOS: Clumsy Pheonix, karnos, Mas y Menos
In post 76, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:VOTE: BTD6_Maker
In post 79, BTD6_maker wrote:VOTE: BTD6_maker
In post 80, karnos wrote:VOTE: BTD6_Maker

Going to sheep the guy above me.
In post 104, Mas y Menos wrote:VOTE: btd6_maker

alpha falcon to gamma otter, delta squirrel has left base! I repeat! delta squirrel has left base!
Try again, friend.
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Post Post #129 (isolation #14) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:09 am

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Un-FOSing me isn't going to make me lay off. I still think it's an over the top reaction and FOSing people on your effectively RVS wagon is weird. I'm okay with where the vote is currently. Is BTD un-FOS'd because of going first, being baited, or because
Gamma Emerald wrote:So BTD is just being silly.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #15) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:22 am

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In post 130, SlySly wrote:
In post 24, Gamma Emerald wrote:Let's not try to outguess the mod right now.
It's beginning to appear that outguessing the mod may be a helpful element in this game.
This. I rescind the idea that we should stop trying to figure out things, as it appears that instead of being modkilled or otherwised penalized for figuring them out, we simply stop having to deal with them.

On an unrelated note, can you come up with a pseudonym other than Sitting Man? I understood the rest.

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Post Post #135 (isolation #16) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:59 am

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I don't know, I think it's pretty important, given that the game is themed after Mao. Although we've figured out the only rules that have been broken thus far, so there's not much more to talk about. In future though, I think rules -do- need to be figured out, because if it has anything to do with how town lynches or votes, that's a pretty big deal.

Ironstove, what do you think of Gamma?

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Post Post #139 (isolation #17) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:20 am

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In post 138, Suzune wrote:
In post 97, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Stop trying to guess rules

-Shazipzapzoople
I says we can't share the rules, why can't we guess them?
Read my post a little bit up. I was under the assumption that trying to guess rules would get us penalized and possibly modkilled.

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Post Post #144 (isolation #18) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:44 am

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Very much so, yes.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #19) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:05 pm

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I'm comfortable with our vote as it is right now

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Post Post #182 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:46 am

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That would be not reading role pm.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:04 pm

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I think you may all be overthinking this a bit. I'm of the impression that the Chairman votes are simply the way the mod has the punishments for breaking the rules listed. Like the rule (now figured out and nullified) about not signing your posts. You get a post restriction of character limit for breaking that. If you break the character limit, you get a chairman vote against you. Note Mas Y Menos' vote numbers. I think this is simpler than imagined, but I could be wrong.

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Post Post #244 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:19 pm

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NI! IT!
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Post Post #251 (isolation #23) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:39 am

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It's been explained, read the damn thread
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Post Post #258 (isolation #24) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 9:24 am

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I prefer the wagon on gamma, as the responses we got for the wagon were ridiculous and their reasoning for not omgus fosing btd6 when he did omgus fos the rest of us were bad. Not interested in letting that slide.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #25) » Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:02 pm

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Now that I think about it... Votecounts never actually listed how many until lynch... They may not be lynched. We'll have to see.
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Post Post #285 (isolation #26) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:34 am

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RR has given us the teams. Focus on lynching scummy folks. Priority 1 should be gamma who has a scummy as fuck reaction to an rvs wagon.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #27) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:27 am

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In post 288, karnos wrote:"This game has a distribution of 5:4:3:2:1"

5 vanilla town, 4 power role town, 3 mafia, 2 neutral, 1 serial killer.
Do your math on those numbers. I told you there was a mod lie in the first post.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #28) » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:53 am

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Have you considered that in the actual card game, veteran players know some of the rules, and RR may be a "veteran player" who is given information on the game at the start?
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Post Post #326 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:07 am

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Gamma is a good lynch
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Post Post #340 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 04, 2016 12:14 pm

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In post 339, SnarkySnowman wrote:
To those confused - I can 100% guarantee that win conditions contain no lies.
Unless this is also a mod lie.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #31) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:05 am

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I think that the votes for Sitting Man are a waste of time. We need to be scumhunting, and this is just creating a diversion. I'm townreading Radical right now, and this head is willing to follow onto a Shos vote, but I want to see what this half-confirming thing is first. If he can't do it or it's not convincing, this head is willing to switch there, but I'll have to talk to my partner. I also don't like the look of 1-9, it seems like they're actively distracting from the game with their posts. Look through their ISO, just the way they're posting seems off to me.

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Post Post #438 (isolation #32) » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:28 pm

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In post 433, Radical Rat wrote:In that case, we need a flip from anyone at all ASAP.
Hammer time
VOTE: BTD6_Maker
I don't think it was THAT urgent. Where's intent to hammer? Chance/Ask for claim? Anything aside from an insta-hammer? It's not exactly like those votes had a chance to go away.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #33) » Sat Nov 12, 2016 2:57 am

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Votecount 1.21
BTD6_Maker (7)
- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman
Radical Rat (5)
- karnos, Gamma Emerald, shos, BTD6_Maker
karnos (4)
- Chairman, Chairman, FaerieLord
ironstove (3)
- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman
Gamma Emerald (3)
- Clumsy Phoenix, Chairman, Chairman
Mas y Menos (3)
- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman
shos (3)
- Radical Rat, 123456789, SlySly
karnos (4)
- Chairman, Chairman, FaerieLord
123456789 (2)
- Chairman, Tiershift
SnarkySnowman (2)
- ironstove, karnos

Not Voting (3)
- Mas y Menos*, Suzune*, shos*


Mod Notes

None!

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Will somebody kindly explain why we are letting gammas awful reaction to a wagon, inconsistent logic, and general scumminess slide? Why are they town?
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Post Post #502 (isolation #34) » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:33 am

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He was scummy...but people agreeing he was scummy and putting their vote there is bad? Are y'all on some next level mafia strategy crap where you aren't supposed to vote scummy players?
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Post Post #515 (isolation #35) » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:56 pm

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VOTE: RadicalRat

If deadline is close this is where we have to go, I think
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Post Post #516 (isolation #36) » Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:59 pm

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In post 506, SnarkySnowman wrote:
Deadline looms...
In post 0, SnarkySnowman wrote:
Mini-Theme 1846
Mao Mafia


Game Status: Day 1
Current Deadline:

???????
362532 days, 14 hours, 6 minutes
Dat deadline though.

RR's vote looked skeezy as hell. I'm fine with this happening.

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Post Post #556 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:29 pm

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Tier? Let's hear your claim.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:08 am

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Both heads will be a bit busy this week, but we'll get on here probably today or tomorrow. For now, please stop role blocking us and let us be helpful. :(
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Post Post #637 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:55 am

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We'll be in here tonight. Ironstone making the rule to basically give himself a dayvig ( through use of voting 93 times I think it was?) was our reaction too.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 1:37 pm

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In post 633, 123456789 wrote:What's wrong with 17? It doesnt look that bad.
It's effectively a Dayvig to anyone that gets a 100. If someone made the rule, they would know about the 100 effect. It's still random, but what's the best way to get that 100? To spam the votes nearly 100 times to play odds that you'd get a 100 on a roll. Iron did exactly that (93 times. I did count.) And this isn't even indicitive of anything damning. If he made the rule, he just used the effective Dayvig ability to do what he wanted. Nothing wrong with that.
ironstove wrote:It's because I instahammered RR with that rule unknowingly that he thinks I made it.
Except he's saying he didn't know about it. While it's possible he got a little frustrated and just spammed votes, it seems very likely that he knew about it.


Seperate train of thought here. It's been over a full week since the start of day/hand 3. Discussion has been pretty minimal (partially on us here too today). 1-9 is at L-1. Scum could easily hammer this and be "advancing the game" pretty easily. That hasn't happened yet. So that puts me a bit on edge there. Thoughts on the two above?
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Post Post #643 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 2:16 pm

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Mmhm, and I'm pretty sure I know why as well.
In post 608, 123456789 wrote:VOTE: Snarky VOTE: Chairman VOTE: Sn VOTE: Mao
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Post Post #651 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:04 pm

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I mean, I took Ironstove's post as a joke. :P
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Post Post #681 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:47 pm

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VOTE: 123456789

In case it wasn't already hammer for some reason. Cloud, I know you don't want to read through the game, but it's really not -that- long. It's weird enough as is, and a secondhand explanation will not put you in a good position in the game. If you're town, just read it.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:30 am

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...Cloud=Jester?
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Post Post #714 (isolation #45) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:04 pm

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In post 625, FaerieLord wrote:
Votecount 3.4
123456789 (4)
- 123456789, 123456789, 123456789, Gamma Emerald
Mas y Menos (3)
- karnos, 123456789, ironstove
ironstove (1)
- Mas y Menos
karnos (1)
- Chairman

Not Voting (4)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker


Mod Notes

None!
In post 656, TierShift wrote:
In post 650, CloudKicker wrote:Can anyone just resume me the game and what happened ? i dont really want to reread everything
Are you even in this game?

I think we should lynch the possible cult leader. We should just eliminate the paranoia, I think.

VOTE: 1-9
In post 658, karnos wrote:VOTE: 123456789

Whatever. The cult must end.
In post 659, Gamma Emerald wrote:K
VOTE: 1-9
In post 681, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:VOTE: 123456789

In case it wasn't already hammer for some reason. Cloud, I know you don't want to read through the game, but it's really not -that- long. It's weird enough as is, and a secondhand explanation will not put you in a good position in the game. If you're town, just read it.
In post 710, FaerieLord wrote:#Imwithhim

VOTE: 1-9
That's 9 votes on 1-9, and still no lynch. I feel like we're completely wandering in the dark here. Also, I don't know about YOU guys, but lynching the chairman is NOT part of my town role PM win condition. So why are you following that?
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Post Post #732 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:27 pm

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #736 (isolation #47) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:46 pm

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So your response is an OMGUS?
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Post Post #742 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:58 pm

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TierShift, I think I know what your role is, because it'd explain why you want ours. Let me talk to the Clumsy head. I'm not ignoring you, we've both just been busy when the other is available, and I don't think either of us wants to make a move without talking to the other.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:23 am

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Alright, I have spoken to the Clumshead. We are pretty sure you're the fucker who has been roleblocking us every night as we try to use our Town Tracker.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #50) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:26 am

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Night 1 we tracked Gamma Emerald. No result
Night 2 we tracked 123456789. No result.
Night 3 we forgot to track.

We -know- that 1-9 converted somebody on night 2, confirming that we were being blocked or in some way redirected.
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Post Post #749 (isolation #51) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:40 pm

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Yeah, on my end (Clumsy) I was like "Yeah, we have a while to put in an action, I'll do it later." And later happened before I knew it. Oops.

That's a really cool role actually. There's no doubt that you are what you say you are. Karnos's hint definetely checks out, 1-9 kind of feels stretched, but I can see it I guess. Ours straight up says "Track", which works I suppose, but I do see what you mean about the confusion. -shrug-

Role cops are usually town, but we can't rule your alignment out completely, however I've got good feelings about this.
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Post Post #754 (isolation #52) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:00 am

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VOTE: CloudKicker
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Post Post #757 (isolation #53) » Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:35 am

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If you aren't interested in playing, then replace out. Otherwise, I'm assuming this is fake apathy trying to avoid having to make up a fake claim, and you can catch this rope.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #54) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:17 pm

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Can you guess once, or as many times as you like Gamma? Also, Math, we're massclaiming. Do the thing, and then vote Cloudkicker for refusing and faking apathy like a scrub.

Be warned, your vote would be hammer I think.
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Post Post #767 (isolation #55) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:30 pm

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In post 0, SnarkySnowman wrote:
5) Voting: All votes within a single post will count... until someone picks up on this idea.
Somebody didn't bother reading. I'm also fine with giving Mathblade rope, just sayin'.
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Post Post #770 (isolation #56) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:44 pm

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So you're saying that you know that rule number 5 doesn't apply anymore... but you're pushing it anyway? What?
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Post Post #771 (isolation #57) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:45 pm

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Alright so you acknowledge that the vote is not in effect, but you want people to use the ineffective rule. You are ignoring that in no other case has a rule being nullified been a mod lie. You also want us to hammer somebody without the group consensus, just because you don't think we really mean it if we don't. That is the worst damn moon logic I think I've seen all year, and I've seen people vote somebody for being -too town-.

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Post Post #772 (isolation #58) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:45 pm

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In post 765, MathBlade wrote:Man this game looks awesome!!

Faerie Lord, can you please demonstrate with votes on a scale of 1-10 how sure you are cloudkicker is scum to you?

Not really feeling mass claim ATM or the cloudkicker lynch.
In post 766, MathBlade wrote:For example if you were really sure Cloud kicker was scum you would vote him 10 times.
In post 769, MathBlade wrote:Seriously if you believe Cloudkicker is scum vote him 10 times.

Why are you asking for so many votes? I almost feel like this is an alternate win condition with how much you're pushing this for no reason. Why 10? Why should we vote him 10 times if it doesn't do anything?

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Post Post #773 (isolation #59) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:48 pm

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In post 759, FaerieLord wrote:
FoS: Cloudkicker
.

If his next post isn't a claim / asking to be replaced out, I'll be more than happy to lynch.
In post 765, MathBlade wrote:Man this game looks awesome!!

Faerie Lord, can you please demonstrate with votes on a scale of 1-10 how sure you are cloudkicker is scum to you?

Not really feeling mass claim ATM or the cloudkicker lynch.

Wait, are you really egging FaerieLord on to hammer Cloudkicker... when you're against the cloudkicker lynch? Explain.
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Post Post #774 (isolation #60) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:50 pm

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Meanwhile, this head is doing...

VOTE: Mathblade

That without asking the other head's permission.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #61) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:51 pm

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Votecount 4.3
Cloudkicker (2)
- Tiershift, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (1)
- Cloudkicker
Mathblade (1)
- Clumsy Phoenix

Not Voting (3)
- FaerieLord, Mathblade

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

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Voting (0)
-
Deadline (0)
-
Posting (0)
-

Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, Mathblade, Gamma Emerald

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None!

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Seconded.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #62) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:54 pm

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What's the significance of this 10x vote thing?
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Post Post #781 (isolation #63) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:01 pm

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That... doesn't even make sense. And no we're not doing that. If it does have some sort of power, I want the rest of the cast to have some input on this. Keep on egging though, it's interesting to read.
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Post Post #782 (isolation #64) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:01 pm

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Nice image fail.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #65) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:04 pm

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I see you're the younger sister.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #66) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:08 pm

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In post 785, MathBlade wrote:Older
Coulda fooled me.
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Post Post #788 (isolation #67) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:13 pm

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My town Role PM says nothing about voting multiple times, and the rule regarding it has been crossed out. What information do you have about it that a town role pm doesn't?

I don't know how much you can get away with Titus by the childish remarks, but you're not going to get it here. Try one of the other slots.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #68) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:16 pm

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EBWOP: "I don't know how much you can get away with when it comes to Titus (your sibling) by the childish remarks"

That's interesting. Why don't YOU vote with how confident you are? Your vote isn't cast. Go ahead. I'm waiting.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #69) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:20 pm

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Yeah, that's real nice and all. Failing? So do something about it.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #70) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:24 pm

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So no vote? Okay then. Goodnight.
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Post Post #796 (isolation #71) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:40 pm

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"Phoenix is scum, and I'm so sure of it I won't vote there"

Did you eat a big old bowl of dumbflakes this morning, and it just still hasn't worn off?

-Shazakazamzarak, the younger head.
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Post Post #801 (isolation #72) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:25 am

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Oh for fuck's sake Math, we can say Chairman.
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Post Post #803 (isolation #73) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:21 am

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So you've decided to pretend the rules are still in effect even when they aren't? So you're making yourself purposefully useless?
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Post Post #806 (isolation #74) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:50 am

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Also, whichever one of you is the fucker that is roleblocking us, stop that shit if you're town.
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Post Post #807 (isolation #75) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:00 am

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It -can- be Mylo, though. Intent to hammer Cloudkicker if they don't claim.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #76) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:00 am

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Okay, here's my guess about the role distribution.

3:1:0:2:1.

Town:3rd party:Cult:Scum:Chairman

So 3 town left. If I had to guess at the town right now, it's me, Tiershift, FaerieLord.

That leaves Math, Cloud, and Gamma.

Math's asinine play seems so out of place that I'm thinking that they are 3rd party. Jester, or something to do with votes.

Gamma is kind of just stuck in the middle for us. Could be town though.

Cloud, gonna be open and honest with you here.
If you're town, you're being fucking useless. You are going to die if you don't contribute something. If you are town, and you don't want to play, then just replace out. Seriously. Won't hold it against you. If you don't want to play, don't. But don't drag the game down. So far, you've refused to contribute to the game, offered no claim, and contributed nothing that can garner information for town. This:
In post 716, CloudKicker wrote:im not mafia and im obviously being bwed by it or the faction
In post 729, CloudKicker wrote:im going to play suboptimal VOTE: gamma
In post 735, CloudKicker wrote:Hello, posting
In post 740, CloudKicker wrote:posting
In post 750, CloudKicker wrote:seriously this game is ded
In post 753, CloudKicker wrote:massclaim with 1 post every day, what about no and i dont tr you
In post 756, CloudKicker wrote:@clum and tier i dont really care, this game is dead and yall tryhards, i bet my 2 cent this is going to be abandonned
In post 799, CloudKicker wrote:prodge, im town
is dumb and ridiculous. Play, replace out, or hang.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #77) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:03 am

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In post 703, CloudKicker wrote:Should i at least claim or no one gives a shit ?
So you're not willing to claim now but you were then. Sounds pretty scummy imo.
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Post Post #812 (isolation #78) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:17 am

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Mod, can you confirm what happens when cult attempts to convert scum?
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Post Post #813 (isolation #79) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:18 am

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Math you've proven you can't read me for shit, recognize that.
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Post Post #815 (isolation #80) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:30 am

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I know your attitude is reminiscent a Kindergartner, but I didn't think your reading comprehension would follow.
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Post Post #817 (isolation #81) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:44 am

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Based on this game, this replace in is very unlike your style Math. You've done no analyzing, no actual hunting. Your only remarks about the game is "Man this game looks awesome!", which is hardly helpful. I can't speak for Faerie, but I know you're wrong on us (not surprising though). Why don't you do something actually useful?

Unless, this is useful to you. I expect it would be. You're drawing attention to yourself, from this hydra. Why though? What's the motivation? It's not scumhunting, I can say that for sure. If it was, if you were really sure it was one of us two, you would put your vote there. But you didn't. You're sitting on it. You're either trying to draw attention away from the Cloudkicker wagon, or you're a Jester/other 3rd party with some other win condition. Possibly something to do with votes. What I can say is that this isn't TownMath.
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Post Post #820 (isolation #82) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 818, SnarkySnowman wrote:812 breaks rule 16.

New Rule will be added when I get home.
Did you mean Rule 15, or the already nullified Rule 16 that I didn't actually break?
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Post Post #822 (isolation #83) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:27 am

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I am assuming that asking the mod questions, or too many questions, is what the "You're Annoying Me" rule is.
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Post Post #823 (isolation #84) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:27 am

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Gamma. Confirm your role now using that?
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Post Post #825 (isolation #85) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:33 am

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Votecount 4.5
Cloudkicker (3)
- Tiershift, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord
Gamma Emerald (1)
- Cloudkicker
Mathblade (1)
- Clumsy Phoenix

Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

________________________________________

Voting (0)
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Deadline (0)
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Posting (0)
-

Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, Mathblade, Gamma Emerald

Mod Notes

None!

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In post 819, MathBlade wrote:It is. You are using the wrong meta doll. ;) It is a shame really. You sitting there exposing all your plans. Your flip on my slot.
Your unwillingness to vote anyone with confidence
. This is my I have caught scum meta and now I am just waiting to pound you into dirt.

That's nice sweety, now why don't you go ahead and vote? Until then, I'm just going to ignore your useless posts. :]
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Post Post #827 (isolation #86) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:42 am

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For fuck's sake Math, either do something useful or pull a Cloudkicker and just go MIA until your turn to be lynched.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #87) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:44 am

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Cloudkicker is active in other games and ignoring this one, I'd like to go ahead and hammer him. Opinions from players who matter?
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Post Post #831 (isolation #88) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:29 am

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Math, if I wanted to spite you, I'd do one of two things.

A: Vote once, as a sort of "Screw you"
B: Get myself lynched to prove that you're full of shit.

My guess is, you're a jester or some other manner of third party. Your reads, in that case, wouldn't really be fake, they'd just be about as bad as they always have been when it comes to me. They may well be completely fake, though, I won't know until we see your flip. But, Cloudkicker comes first. I'll be meeting up with the other head to hang out here in a minute, when I see him I'll confirm that he's ok with it and then drop the hammer.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #89) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:17 pm

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VOTE: cloudkicker

Clumsy says yes, we are after Math tomorrow
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Post Post #843 (isolation #90) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:51 am

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Mod: How is your day going?
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Post Post #844 (isolation #91) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:51 am

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Mod: What kind of factions can we expect to see in this game?
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Post Post #845 (isolation #92) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:52 am

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Mod: Can you confirm or deny the existence of aliens?
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Post Post #846 (isolation #93) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:52 am

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Mod: Are there any remaining cult members?
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Post Post #851 (isolation #94) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:36 pm

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A: It helps figure out the rule, though this is nullified by the apparent addition of new rules.
B: It helps figure out the rule, meaning Gamma can then correctly guess it and prove his role as he said it was and also make him lynchproof.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #95) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:00 pm

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Your brain has definitely stopped ticking.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #96) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:38 pm

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VOTE: Cloudkicker
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Post Post #859 (isolation #97) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:45 pm

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VOTE: Reveal Voting Rules

We think this is most important to continuing gameplay.
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Post Post #862 (isolation #98) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:01 pm

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Read the fucking thread Math, at least pretend to give a damn.
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Post Post #866 (isolation #99) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:15 am

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The day is only going on because we haven't decided which rules to reveal.
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Post Post #871 (isolation #100) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 11:50 am

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Math holy fuck read the thread. The deadline timer has been -massive- before, and it is not accurate. That's one of the mod-lies in this bastard game. If you can't put in the effort to read 35 pages, then replace the fuck out and find something else to do.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #101) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:08 pm

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Christ's sake. I am now infinitely confident in Faerielord being town, because your reads are literally always bad, and I know you're wrong about us.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #102) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:12 pm

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Every day phase has had a maximum of the standard size from what I can tell. If your role isn't "Shit all over the thread in the worst way possible" Math, this is just garbage.
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Post Post #876 (isolation #103) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:52 pm

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So either Math has to get past their general failure to bother, or Cloudkicker does. Goodie.
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Post Post #878 (isolation #104) » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:49 pm

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Read the fucking thread. Find me one instance where deadline rules have caused issues in game. I bet you won't find any, other than us initially going "Huh, that's a long deadline, that's likely inaccurate" and then later us being told "Deadline looms" and going "Well, I guess deadlines are pretty standard".

Meanwhile, voting has been weird all fucking game and has lead to -lots- of confusion. Literally everyone else thinks your idea is crap. Unless you think everyone voting against you is scum, get used to the fact that you're wrong.
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Post Post #885 (isolation #105) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:09 pm

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Player known as Mod: can you vote?
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Post Post #889 (isolation #106) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:55 pm

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We tracked FaerieLord last night. No result. We haven't gotten a result all game, so we're worried about the bastard nature affecting our role.
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Post Post #894 (isolation #107) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:51 pm

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Tbh, we thought you were that other alignment in the distribution, be that jester or whatever you were doing with the votes. Scum is more important than a non-killing 3rd party to find.

My guess was 3-1-0-2-1
3 town, 1 3rd party, 0 cult, 2 mafia, 1 mod

I think I was correct.

So now, 2 town, 1 3rd party, 0 cult, 1 mafia, 1 mod.

Think it goes without saying, but I'm a town tracker.

What I'm concerned with is getting no result continually. I think we tracked someone that did an action night 2, but on phone so I'll check later. We got no result. So either something is wrong with our role, or we're being blocked. I don't know if we can clear FaerieLord based on that.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #108) » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:52 pm

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Now that you seem reasonable, can you explain more about what that was yesterday? Besides fun? And have you claimed? ( again, mobile)
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Post Post #898 (isolation #109) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:03 am

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Clumsy head's current guess is FaerieLord being Scum Roleblocker.
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Post Post #903 (isolation #110) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:48 am

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PoE. If you were 3rd party, and my other head was right about Gamma being town, that leaves FaerieLord. Also, look at the IS on him. Little to no mention of Cloudkicker until he jumps on the wagon, fairly late. Doesn't provide any information about Cloud. Votes with the reason of not claiming. His IS brings up Cloud 5 times with ctrl+F, 2 of which are mod edits, 2 are FOS and vote that I mentioned, and 1 is referencing that next vote depends on Cloud's flip. Cloud replaced Suzune, and guess how many times Suzune appears in the ISO? 0. (Well, once, as a vote count). It all reads as trying not to be tied to Cloudkicker.

This head needs to re-read Gamma.

FaerieLord, you say you aren't scum. You didn't say you were town. Are you the third party then?

Also, it may not have been every night. It seems definitely N2, N3 we forgot (oops), and we got no result on you last night. My paranoia bars are rising.
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Post Post #904 (isolation #111) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:49 am

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Math, what were your targets all game?
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Post Post #905 (isolation #112) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:54 am

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Also, FaerieLord, the key nights for blocking were N2 (we should have gotten a result but got none, and last night. Tiershift having a strong role doesn't matter, because they were the night kill. Tracker with 1 scum left is pretty much a cop, so if you are a scum roleblocker (or anyone else is), blocking me was the correct play.

Also, here's another thing. 2 town, 1 scum, 1 nonkilling 3rd party. We have to hang scum today or we lose. 3Rd party is pretty much a loss as well. So if there is a 3rd party with a win con that can coincide with town... Now is the time.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #113) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:25 pm

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@Mod:
If a faction with a factional night kill has other abilities, can they perform the kill and use those abilities at the same time? This isn't really a "Mao" question, more of a general game question.
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Post Post #918 (isolation #114) » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:43 pm

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Gamma, in your vote on us you misspelled our name. It is "ClumsyPhoenix" and you put "ClumsyPheonix". If the mod is feeling particularly bastardly, that will matter. Not sure what you're doing with the votes, but I figured I'd point it out.
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Post Post #927 (isolation #115) » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:47 pm

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Whoa whoa whoa wait a minute. Math.
In post 909, MathBlade wrote:Mod correction RR N1 then no one.
You're telling me that Ironstove doctored RR? After this post Day 1
In post 286, ironstove wrote:Is no one suspicious of the fact that RR seems to know how everything is setup? Maybe we should lynch him because I have no clue how he has all of this information and I don't, but I'm town, so he must be a 3rd party like the chairman.


Rule #16

Only to be followed up with this outcome Day 2, immediately after doctoring the guy?
In post 527, ironstove wrote:It's really making me rage that some people somehow know that the vote count is related to a random dice roll, without pages, I fucking say just lynch everyone who seems to know something that I don't BECAUSE I'M FUCKING TOWN

VOTE: RR

Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (73) = 73
In post 528, ironstove wrote:-snip, was huge post with all the dice tags and votes-
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Post Post #937 (isolation #116) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:01 pm

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So Math wanted us to vote multiple times on one person, which the voting rules that were revealed show would have turned all of the votes on us, killing us instantly. Math was also super against showing the voting rules. Math was trying to get us killed off without anyone knowing why. Care to explain?
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Post Post #939 (isolation #117) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:50 pm

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A sadness.
In post 938, Clumsy wrote:Well this was annoying to make. Red is scum, green is town, purple is 3rd party/Chairman, Orange is Cult.


End of Day 1 Votecount
BTD6_Maker
(9)[/b] -
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman,
123456789
[LYNCH]
Radical Rat
(5)
-
karnos
, Gamma Emerald,
shos,
BTD6_Maker

karnos
(4)
-
Chairman, Chairman
, FaerieLord
MathBlade (3)
-
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

Gamma Emerald (3)
- Clumsy Phoenix,
Chairman, Chairman

Mas y Menos
(3)
-
Chairman, Chairman, Chairman

shos
(2)
-
Radical Rat
,
SlySly

123456789
(2)
-
Chairman
,
Tiershift

SnarkySnowman
(2)
- MathBlade,
karnos


Not Voting (3)
-
Mas y Menos
*,
CloudKicker
*,
shos
*


Mod Notes

BTD6_Maker has been lynched!



BTD6_Maker
, a
Town Watcher
, was kicked out of the game Day 1.




End of Day 3 Votecount
123456789 (7)
- 123456789, 123456789, 123456789,[/color]
karnos
, Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord,
Cloudkicker
[LYNCH]
CloudKicker
(5)
-
123456789,
Gamma Emerald,
Tiershift
, MathBlade,
Mas y Menos

Mas y Menos
(1)
-
karnos

karnos
(1)
-
Chairman


Not Voting (0)
- Nobody!


Mod Notes

None!

________________________________________




End of Day 4 Votecount
Cloudkicker
(4)
-
Tiershift
, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix
Gamma Emerald (1)
-
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

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Voting (0)
-
Deadline (0)
-
Posting (0)
-

Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, Mathblade, Gamma Emerald

Mod Notes

None!

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Post Post #942 (isolation #118) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:02 pm

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End of Day 4 Votecount
Cloudkicker
(4)
-
Tiershift
, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix
Gamma Emerald (1) -
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

@MOD:
Is the bolded part of this VC correct?

Also, are we allowed to have a role distribution update?
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Post Post #943 (isolation #119) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:03 pm

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@Math, If we lynched ourself and you were wrong, we would lose. The other head and I are looking into things and some things are not adding up- Can you spot anything about this game that seems off to you?
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Post Post #947 (isolation #120) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:16 pm

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The "Let's Get This Tied Up" rule. What if that means that if we all put it so everybody has 1 vote except for 1 player, the mod will put their vote on that player to tie it up? If so, that's the only way to get the mod to vote, which seems pretty important at this point.
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Post Post #948 (isolation #121) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:16 pm

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That's assuming mod has a vote. 4 players if he doesn't have a vote. My money is on him not having a vote that isn't tied to rule-breaking (because who would he vote for and how?). I am 99% sure that mod doesn't have a free* vote, as that would break everything it means to be a mod. You would be choosing who would win. So no, mod doesn't have a free vote.


*Free meaning not tied to breaking rules resulting in votes. If that's what you're talking about, we can hardly rely on that.


So, it would be 1 town, 2 scum, 1 3rd party. Lynch can't happen on scum without an outside vote. Unless 3rd party or mod shenanigans, town does in fact lose.
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Post Post #949 (isolation #122) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:21 pm

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3:1:0:2:1 is the new role distribution.
My best guess is still Town:3rd party:Cult:Scum:Mod

Cloudkicker hangs

3:1:0:1:1

Dead townie

2:1:0:1:1

is what we're at.


2 town, 1 3rd party, 1 scum, 1 mod.
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Post Post #950 (isolation #123) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:23 pm

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Votecount 5.4
FaerieLord (1)
- Mathblade

Not Voting (4)
- Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.


Mod Notes

None!

________________________________________


Third party needs to claim, right now.
Last edited by SnarkySnowman on Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:27 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Post Post #951 (isolation #124) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:25 pm

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Claims so far are

ClumsyPhoenix: Tracker
MathBlade: Doctor
Gamma: Rule-Guesser? ("I can guess a rule, and if I get it right I'm immune to lynching.")
Faerie: Kill-immune Ascetic
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Post Post #952 (isolation #125) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:29 pm

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Taking all of the other claims at face value

Doctor: Seems fine, we haven't had another protective in the game, but we could have just not had one.
Rule Guesser: Immunity to lynching doesn't fit as scum, as lynching is town's number 1 ability. Giving someone immunity to lynching as scum is a big deal, and with this, if he guesses right every time, can't lose as scum.
Kill-Immune Ascetic (upon not breaking rules): Doesn't make sense as scum, because we have no vigilante in the town. So they would not need to be kill immune.

The issue here is that at least one, if not two, are lying.
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Post Post #953 (isolation #126) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:35 pm

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As far as I know, none of our roles have been able to be confirmed. We have had no information (even on N2, when we should have, unless I'm a total derp). Doctor hasn't hit a heal. Gamma, did you ever hit your ability correctly? And the last is just uncomfirmable. We tracked you last night but got no result. Whether that's because Ascetic or because you went no-where, we can't tell.

I could see Ascetic on Scum, makes it effectively a stronger GF for town. Kill-immune could be fake claimed. Doctor is a safe fake claim given that we didn't have another protective. Rule Guesser is interesting, and I could see going either way I think.


It's difficult here. Both heads are paranoid most about FaerieLord, and our conversations manage to gravitate towards him a lot. There's a huge gut pull there.
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Post Post #954 (isolation #127) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:47 pm

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Uh, found a problem. We were thinking Role distribution was Town:3rd Party:Cult:Scum:Mod. This can't be right.

In post 0, SnarkySnowman wrote:
Role InformationThis game has a distribution of 5:4:3:2:1.
In post 517, SnarkySnowman wrote:
End of Day 1 Votecount
BTD6_Maker (9)
- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, Chairman, 123456789 [LYNCH]
Radical Rat (5)
- karnos, Gamma Emerald, shos, BTD6_Maker
karnos (4)
- Chairman, Chairman, FaerieLord
ironstove (3)
- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman
Gamma Emerald (3)
- Clumsy Phoenix, Chairman, Chairman
Mas y Menos (3)
- Chairman, Chairman, Chairman
shos (2)
- Radical Rat, SlySly
123456789 (2)
- Chairman, Tiershift
SnarkySnowman (2)
- ironstove, karnos

Not Voting (3)
- Mas y Menos*, Suzune*, shos*


Mod Notes

BTD6_Maker has been lynched!



After a long, drawn out hand, everyone looked around. BTD6_Maker had about 35 cards, while everyone else was close to having none.

This is not how a card game should go.


BTD6_Maker
, a
Town Watcher
, was kicked out of the game Day 1.

It is now Night 1. Send actions asap please. Nights have a 2-day deadline.

End of Day 1. Town hung. Should be 4:4:3:2:1

In post 518, SnarkySnowman wrote:
p"And how does that make you feel, SlySly?" the man asked, looking out the window of his office.

SlySly looked down, then back at the room behind, where everyone was playing the card game.

"You know how this goes. Just business..."

"Come here," said the man.

He moved closer, slowly. The man lowered his hat. "You are out of the game. Goodbye"

~



SlySly
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Survivor and Rule Revisor
, has been
lynched
removed from the card game.

It is now Day 2.

3rd party killed in night. Should be 4:3:3:2:1
In post 537, SnarkySnowman wrote:
That didn't take long! Hammer is confirmed on RR, with more than 20 votes. Votecount will be added upon request but otherwise I don't feel like it - there are lots of votes by ironstove, with ironstove hammering, that's all you need.


And in the next hand, it went swift. Ironstove lay down card after card, and in a flash, he appointed Radical Rat as the loser.


Radical Rat
, a
Heavily Post-Restricted, Timer'd Bulletproof Jester
, has been savagely removed from the game.


Radical Rat has achieved his win condition, and wins! He is removed from the game, and you all keep playing. The following is now the distribution of roles - 4:3:2:2:1


It is now Night 2. Please send actions ASAP!

If that was also 3rd party, it should be 4:2:3:2:1. RR was pulled out of the 3rd slot though.


Also, 3rd slot can't be cult, because it would start at 1 and grow, not 3 and shrink. Something isn't right here. We need to figure this out. Now.
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Post Post #958 (isolation #128) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:55 pm

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We two heads have spoken. We see no way the role distribution could be true. Cult either started with 2, 1-9 Cult leader and Mas Y Menos Recruit, or 1, just 1-9 leader. If they were the 2, then scum would either be more than 2, at which point we would have lost, or they were the 1, in which case they would be eliminated and there is no space in there for the mod in that distribution.
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Post Post #959 (isolation #129) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:57 pm

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WRT your last post, math, We know that the cult either started with 2 or 1, as Gamma was "returned to previous alignment" and they were the only 3. If they started with 2, Scum was either 3 (In which case, we would be endgamed) or 1 (In which case they are eliminated,, and there is no spot in that distribution for the Mod unless he is slotted in with some other faction for some reason). Neither of these scenarios are possible, and therefore the distribution -has- to be a mod lie.
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Post Post #962 (isolation #130) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:00 pm

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Math, just do this for me. Write out the distribution and assign the factions to it. Do it for me right now.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #131) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:17 pm

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Math you also literally can't claim to be town and townread anyone else if the role distribution is correct.
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Post Post #965 (isolation #132) » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:54 pm

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VOTE: MathBlade

Well then we'll just park this vote here then. If you're trying to stall for time on the deadline, it won't work on our watch.
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Post Post #968 (isolation #133) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:41 am

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@FaerieLord
In post 897, MathBlade wrote:And I was trying to get you to lynch yourself since I thought Cloudkicker was Town. Rule 18 was the rule my slot made up.

There's also one thing you're forgetting about with our claim. We don't have any information, true, but we only had to be blocked for 1 night if you're telling the truth, not every night. You're ascetic, remember? So we wouldn't see you going anywhere last night.
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Post Post #972 (isolation #134) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:41 am

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SHAZIRO HEAD HERE, MOTHERFUCKERS!

MATH! YOU STILL HAVEN'T DONE THE THING WHERE YOU SAY WHICH FACTIONS YOU THINK ARE WHICH NUMBER IN THE 5:4:3:2:1 ROLE DISTRIBUTION! DO THAT, QUIT STALLING AND WHINING BECAUSE WE VOTED YOU FOR POTENTIALLY STALLING!

FAERIELORD! WE DIDN'T SEND IN AN ACTION BECAUSE WE GOT TOO COMFORTABLE WITH THE EXTENDED TIME, AND THE GAME HAD SOMEWHAT DIED SO I FOR ONE TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT IT!
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Post Post #974 (isolation #135) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:43 am

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Do the distribution, Math. Quit stalling. Just say which factions you think are which number. We are trying to help you see that the distribution was a mod lie.
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Post Post #977 (isolation #136) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:48 am

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The all caps wasn't anger, is was me getting pumped up to go back to gamesolving like Clumsy and I did last night. I'm just going it alone this time because he's at work, had to open today and I -think- it's a double shift, not sure. Anyway, just do the distribution. Look at the numbers. Remember that Town is going to -have- to be the 5, they have to be the majority, and that Cult was either 1 or 2. Go from there.
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Post Post #982 (isolation #137) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:16 am

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There were -13- players originally. I pointed out in one of our first posts that the original distribution had to be a mod lie, as there were 13 players and even if we assume "Chairman" who is the mod, was a player, that's only 14.

You are also missing that TierShift died and flipped town.

OUR FLIPS SO FAR:

TOWN
BTD6
Shos
Karnos
TierShift

CULT
123456789
Mas y Menos

SURVIVOR
SlySly

JESTER
Radical Rat

MAFIA
CloudKicker

That's 2 third party, 2 cult, 4 town, and 1 mafia flip.
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Post Post #983 (isolation #138) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:16 am

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Math. If you are town, and we are town too, that means the role distribution is a mod lie. It's the Occam's answer, especially given that there were 13 players to start this game, 14 if you include the mod, and the original distribution required 15 players.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #139) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:31 am

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Alright, now that -that- is out of the way. I want all 3rd parties to claim. Like, now. I want everyone to post, and if you are a third party that post needs to contain a claim of that much. If you are a Survivor, now is the -perfect- time. I want full roleclaims, and Faerie I want you to explain your "Kill proof ascetic". Why do you think that we would have seen an action if you weren't ascetic? If you are -only- kill-proof ascetic then you wouldn't ever show an action anyhow, because you don't have an action. It's suspicious.
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Post Post #987 (isolation #140) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:48 am

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Full claim. We've done it already.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #141) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:00 pm

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VOTE: Unvote

Had to talk to my other head to figure out what the hell you were talking about with Karnos clearing you. Okay. You are town. We are town. I want full claims from Faerie and Gamma then. My gut is pinging me on Faerie, but I don't like Gamma trying to lurk this out.
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Post Post #992 (isolation #142) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:58 pm

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It should not be this hard to get people to do basic math or accept logical reasoning. -sigh- So, I think that we need to hang one of Gamma or FaerieLord. Deadline is apparently looming. We need to settle on one. We've been paranoid of Faerie every time we go to talk about this game. Gamma is lurking hard though, and that's skeeving me out real bad.

If we assume absolute best possibility for town, 3 town and 1 scum, if we mislynch, we lose. We need to be sure.
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Post Post #993 (isolation #143) » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:58 pm

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@MOD: Gamma is nearing 3 days without posting. Can we get a prod there?
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #144) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:32 pm

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Gamma has been active elsewhere on site and is 4 hours away from 4 days absent here. Deadline is approaching and we need to decide on a lynch. FaerieLord, thoughts on Gamma?
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #145) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:11 pm

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Let's do it then. Deadline is looming and his lurking while being elsewhere rubs us the wrong way. Over 4 days away now. I think one of you is the neutral and one is scum, and I can't think of a way to figure it out, so let's vote with you since you're here. Math, if you could be here, that'd be great.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #146) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:45 am

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Nope, it's one of the bastard things In This game. Scares me to death that we are gonna no lynch.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #147) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:52 pm

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Just do it, deadline is a big threat.
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Post Post #1013 (isolation #148) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:24 am

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:D


Pls no be troll
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #149) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:44 am

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...
We tracked Math last night. No result.

Mod, can we get a proper vote count? A list of players perhaps?
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #150) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:13 pm

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Just reporting what we got. We've been getting no result all game, odds are good we are just a damn VT and our role is a mod lie at this point.

I see two options. Mod is remaining scum, or Faerielord is.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #151) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:14 pm

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Votecount 6.2
Not Voting (4)
- FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix, Mathblade

With 4 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.


Mod Notes

None!

________________________________________


I could go into a big list and rundown all the possibilities in this game and what the outcomes of them would be, but I'll bring up another point that may make it a bit more concise.

How exactly do we get a lynch on anyone but Snarky? We require 3 votes. If it was us three, I would be going for FaerieLord. But even if Math voted with us, it's not like Faerie would self hammer.

So 1 of 3 things has to happen.

-Figure out how to get Snarky's vote onto FaerieLord
-Hope FaerieLord breaks a rule resulting in a vote being put on himself
-Lynch Snarky


¯\_(°_o)_/¯
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #152) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:23 am

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In post 1027, FaerieLord wrote:
It takes 2 to lynch, not 3. So there's that.
Huh, totally missed that. Well, in that case, we have no reason to believe Karnos lied about their town only role rule making thing, and we're town, so that leaves FaerieLord. I'll wait until my other head gets with me to confirm, but I believe that's our vote.
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #153) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:35 am

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In post 746, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Night 1 we tracked Gamma Emerald. No result
Night 2 we tracked 123456789. No result.
Night 3 we forgot to track.

We -know- that 1-9 converted somebody on night 2, confirming that we were being blocked or in some way redirected.
In post 1017, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:...
We tracked Math last night. No result.

Mod, can we get a proper vote count? A list of players perhaps?

Food for thought: where is the scum motivation for these claims? We are 90% sure that N2 we should have seen something because of cult actions (on mobile or I'd find it for you), yet we saw nothing. We should have seen Math visit us last night, but didn't see anything. I was about 90% sure Math was going to visit us anyway, but if FaerieLord is actually Ascetic, there was no use tracking there. (I wonder what would happen if we track the mod?) We could have waited to see who Math claimed to have doc'd and "confirmed" that. So where is the scum motive for such a glaringly weak claim when we could easily make it much more believable? Hell, we could have said "Hey, we tracked FaerieLord, they visited us, they're lying and you saved us Math, vote FaerieLord". But no. Because we are actually getting no result. Occam's razor points to either Roleblocker or just pointing at the game being bastard.
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #154) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:41 am

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In fact, 746 was made after 1-9 flipped Cult, so it would have been extremely safe to say that 1-9 visited one of the recruits, and would only strengthen our claim. But we didn't, because No Result is what we got. Hence the Roleblocking accusations.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #155) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:06 am

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We have no reason to not believe Karnos' claims about his role, as he flipped town. That clears MathBlade, and we're town, so that leaves FaerieLord. I don't really see any reason to prolong this, and if Math is scum (Which would mean Karnos lied or some other fuckery is going on), oh well I guess.



VOTE: FaerieLord
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #156) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:18 am

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Math, if you would like our case, just let me know, and I'll type it up when I can. But like FaerieLord said, the biggest thing is that you're confirmed, and it ain't me.

I really wish we had time to vote the mod to see what happens, but we don't.
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #157) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:52 am

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Fun fun. I'll have something up at some point tonight.
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #158) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:57 am

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Wait, I think I might be onto a hidden rule. Give me a bit to check.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #159) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:39 am

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Holy shit I think I solved it. Math, please read absolutely all of this, ask questions if you need to, this was complicated, but it makes sense once you understand it. Credit to Shaz head for fine tuning the ruling that makes this all make sense. Okay, stay with me here.

Rule: The first town member to vote anyone other than Mafia during the day becomes the Mafia Kill target that night. Skip to next town member if the first is lynched.



Spoiler: Day One
This is the first vote of the day. More specifically, this is the first vote from town, on town.
In post 4, SlySly wrote:PL

VOTE: Gamma
This is who died Night One.
In post 518, SnarkySnowman wrote:
SlySly
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Survivor and Rule Revisor
, has been
lynched
removed from the card game.

It is now Day 2.



Spoiler: Day Two
First vote, but a few things. One, it's not on a player in this game. Two, it's from cult. So we're moving on.
In post 519, Mas y Menos wrote:lynching ircher for not being a duck

duck you

VOTE: ircher


Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (76) = 76

First town vote, and it's on Cult, not Mafia.
In post 521, shos wrote:VOTE: 1-9

Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

Then, the kill that night:
In post 539, SnarkySnowman wrote:
On a lovely night, in the lovely fall, one man wanted to take it all.
He sat on his chair, looking round at the group, looking at his hand, and ready to shoot.
He looked at the head of the table and smiled, with lust and envy, though his hand was full.
He wasn't going to win, at least not this round.

From across the table, a call was heard.
"Shos, your mother wants you home!"
But it wasn't true. Too bad for shos,


Shos
, a
Town Backup Psychologist and Wet Blanket
, has been removed from the game Night 2.


Two new rules have been added. Welcome do
day
hand 3.



Spoiler: Day Three
First vote, but it's from Cult, so skip.
In post 540, 123456789 wrote:VOTE: ironstove
Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (4) = 4


Great job breaking the game. Why did you single-handedly decide to lynch Radical?

First town vote, and it's on Cult, not Mafia.
In post 541, karnos wrote:VOTE: 123456789
Original Roll String: 1d100 (STATIC)
1 100-Sided Dice: (99) = 99

And guess who died?
In post 725, SnarkySnowman wrote:
3:1:0:2:1 is the new role distribution. 3:1:0:2:1. If I said otherwise, I made a mistake. I have triple checked to verify this.


The next day broke, and the card game continued. This is where things get serious. Or, as serious as this game could possibly be.

Quick to the day, like a duck, the game tracked towards some semblance of understanding. Or whatever that means. Who knows at this point.

Everyone arrived at the table, cards shuffled, except for one. His mom called. He was grounded.


karnos
, a
Town Psychologist
, is grounded and no longer playing.

As SHENANIGANS has been called, a new vote will come into play, requiring 5 votes to resolve.

You may now vote to remove a set of rules. You can choose between Voting/Unvoting, Deadline, or Posting. Rules with names will not be removed / revealed.

Aside from this, Rule #21: "Well that sucks", has been added.



Votecount 4.1
Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, ironstove, Gamma Emerald

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

________________________________________

Voting (0)
-
Deadline (0)
-
Posting (0)
-

Not Voting (7)
- Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, CloudKicker, ironstove, Gamma Emerald

Mod Notes

None!



Spoiler: Day Four
This is the only one that doesn't follow the pattern, and I think I know why.

First vote, but it's by scum, so skip.
In post 729, CloudKicker wrote:im going to play suboptimal VOTE: gamma
By town, but it's on (now confirmed) town, so this SHOULD be the night kill.
In post 731, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: ironstove
SOMEONE GET IN HERE!
However, Cloudkicker was lynched (and was mafia).
In post 883, SnarkySnowman wrote:Hey all, happy holidays! That vote is resolved and all voting rules (including new ones) will be revealed.

Cloudkicker flips
Dirty Cheater
(aka Mafia)

Flavor to come soon; it's xmas weekend and I'm very busy!

Send actions ASAP. Deadline will be lengthened due to holidays: Monday at 9pm EST is when Day 5 will start.

Tiershift died, as a strong investigative role, someone that scum would definetely want dead.
In post 884, SnarkySnowman wrote:Tiershift is gone, he was a TOWN Flavor Detective

It's Day 5 with only 4 players remaining, it takes 3 to lynch! It is revealed that the MOD is a player!


flavor incoming;

What I'm thinking here is that if a Scum member dies, the other has control over the kill that night, hence the kill on Tier regardless of the rule. Either that or a 1-shot ability, but I see the former being more likely.



Spoiler: Day Five
First vote from town on someone not mafia. Skip because they were lynched.
In post 913, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Clumsy Pheonix
This is very important and it took us a minute to see it. Vote from town, but ON SCUM.
In post 936, MathBlade wrote:
In post 935, FaerieLord wrote:Miller makes perfect sense because it's giving wrong results. I'm giving no results. That's a major difference.
Apart from that, Miller can only have one person getting bad results (there isn't often more than 1 cop role). Anyone with a PR can confirm me.

So no, I disagree with your theory crafting. Claiming an early power role is the wrong call, cause if someone called a result on me in a heavy power role based game like this one, then I'd have had a good chance of having caught scum.
...That isn't how that works. It isn't my theory crafting. It is years of site crafting.

Anyone with a PR who could have could also just be blocked. The fact you are claiming it now is sketchy as fuck. There is no way you are town.

VOTE: FairieLord
This is the kicker: First vote from town, ON TOWN. That made us the nightkill last night. Math doctored us. We lived, no kill.
In post 965, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:VOTE: MathBlade

Well then we'll just park this vote here then. If you're trying to stall for time on the deadline, it won't work on our watch.



When I was first looking at it, I thought it was a weird coincidence. When there were 2 in a row, that was a VERY STRANGE coincidence. But the pattern holds up the entire game except for the day that Cloudkicker died. I think it's just an ability to help scum from falling too far behind once they lose their first member.
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #160) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:44 am

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I think it's fine to talk about now that we're in LyLo, so let me also bring this up: Why the HELL is Math not dead. Math, you are a claimed Doctor, going into the night in which 1 kill on town means that mafia wins, and Mafia targets us?! In WHAT universe does scum ever make that choice? The only answer I have for that is... they didn't have a choice. They were forced to attack me instead of you due to the rules of the game. So you blocked it. I mean, can you think of ANY other explanation other than that mafia forgot to send in the game winning night kill? I sure as hell can't.
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #161) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:51 am

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This is insurance, just in case for some reason the game continues after today's lynch. This, if my theory is correct, will ensure that the NK goes to us, so we can be doctored (sense we would be the first town vote on not scum). I don't expect this to come up, but I also didn't expect my theory in this game either.

VOTE: MathBlade
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #162) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:51 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: FaerieLord
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Post Post #1046 (isolation #163) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:54 am

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Spoiler: Panic
I already had the unvote and revote typed up, so I sent that as soon as I sent the other one. "You cannot post again so soon after just posting"

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Post Post #1050 (isolation #164) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:56 am

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Votecount 6.3
Clumsy Phoenix (1)
- FaerieLord
FaerieLord (1)
- Clumsy Phoenix

Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade

With 4 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.


Mod Notes

None!

________________________________________


It's either the biggest coincidence I have ever seen in a game of Mafia -ever- or it's right. We are not 3rd party.

Also, notice in Faerie's ISO, Cloudkicker is referenced only twice, when he was threatening to (and then did) vote him for not claiming. He mentions Suzune (Cloud's predecessor) 0 times. I fall into the trap of never talking about my scum mate(s) a lot, and I think that's what that is too.
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #165) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:01 am

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Math, if my theory is wrong, then why weren't you killed in the night?
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #166) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:18 am

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That was clear from the point that we got into LyLo with your spot being confirmed. :P

The reflexive thing might be true. Either way, we're lucky it happened. Also, if that's your major theory, wouldn't the fact that we're honest about our tracking point to us being town with you? And wouldn't that negate the whole, "I don't like how you don't have results" thing?

Dear lord I hope I could come up with something better than this theory about scum not having control over their night kills to explain why the doctor wasn't dead as scum. If I wanted something believable as scum I would have said something like you did. That theory is just my honest thoughts.

Just take your time and go through both of our ISOs I guess. Let me know if you have any questions. I don't have much more to add.
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #167) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:20 am

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Remember this?

In post 745, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Alright, I have spoken to the Clumshead. We are pretty sure you're the fucker who has been roleblocking us every night as we try to use our Town Tracker.
In post 748, TierShift wrote:I'm a flavour cop. I target people at night and their role is written into the opening scene.

Karnos N1
1-9 N2
You N3

Your role claim checks out, as the day opening post talks about tracking. However, it also talks about confusion in conjunction with the tracking, so your role just might not work.

Cloudkicker is next.
In post 725, SnarkySnowman wrote:
3:1:0:2:1 is the new role distribution. 3:1:0:2:1. If I said otherwise, I made a mistake. I have triple checked to verify this.


The next day broke, and the card game continued. This is where things get serious. Or, as serious as this game could possibly be.

Quick to the day, like a duck, the game
tracked
towards some semblance of understanding. Or whatever that means. Who knows at this point.

Everyone arrived at the table...-snip-

Our tracking is already confirmed by Tiershift. So the whole "not having results" isn't because we're lying, it's either a blocker or a bastard element to the game.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #168) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:24 am

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In post 1055, FaerieLord wrote: You never talked about Suzune either. Just an FYI. Your only interaction with Suzune is clarifying a mod-rule.
As for cloud, they didn't do much until the whole "nope, not gonna claim. never. nope" during the mass claim. Which is when you started mentioning them, as I did. Before that, your only interaction with cloud was telling them to post.

So yeah, two scenarios possible
1) they were unremarkable players that did nothing in the game of note
2) your scum tell is a scum tell about you.

That's a fair point. Just looked and Tiershift and Karnos barely interacted there either. Karnos wanted to lynch them at one point, but that and an RVS vote is all. So that point holds no water, you're right.


Also, don't you know hypocrisy is one of my finer personality traits? ;)
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #169) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:30 am

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I'm not sure I'm following the whole reflexive thing, tbh. Never had one in a game, and the wiki says it's something about having a passive ability.
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #170) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:31 am

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Like, I reflexively track whoever targets me? But wouldn't that mean I would track you who visited me, and say that you visited me? But I got no result.
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Post Post #1063 (isolation #171) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:38 am

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Hey, Snarky, while you're here.
In post 1017, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:...
We tracked Math last night. No result.

Mod, can we get a proper vote count? A list of players perhaps?
This was just trying to have all info, not trying to be... Well... Snarky. Sorry if that was misconstrued.
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #172) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:15 pm

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I'm apologizing if what I said seemed rude, it was not meant to. :)
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #173) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:40 pm

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Are you still laboring over reading everything, or are you stuck in deliberation?
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #174) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:41 pm

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What about our play is worse than FaerieLord's?
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #175) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:19 pm

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In post 801, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Oh for fuck's sake Math, we can say Chairman.
In post 1072, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1071, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:What about our play is worse than FaerieLord's?
Pushing for the claim from TierShift where as FairieLord actually posted thoughts for starters. The other is where you called my reads insane. All that wasn't insane was my play and trying to have fun.
Do you mean pushing for a claim here?
In post 556, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:Tier? Let's hear your claim.
Because as soon as he said that he shouldn't claim fully because no guilty, it was dropped.
In post 569, TierShift wrote:I can confirm 1-9's claim. I don't think it's necessary for me to claim now I don't have a guilty.
Or the one after that, which was proceeded by
In post 741, TierShift wrote:okay let's go mass claim. I will not claim before clumsy phoenix. Clumsy, if you claim first, I'll claim afterwards if you want me to.

And finally, if your entrance to this game was your version of having fun, you can fuck right the hell off. I got out of kindergarten many years ago, and since then I've learned that if your version of having fun is taking fun away from others, you're just being an asshole.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #176) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:09 am

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In post 884, SnarkySnowman wrote:Tiershift is gone, he was a TOWN Flavor Detective

It's Day 5 with only 4 players remaining, it takes 3 to lynch! It is revealed that the MOD is a player!


flavor incoming;
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #177) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:59 pm

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I thought of this before too, but there's a big problem with this. If we lynch the mod, and that doesn't turn out as scum, then the real scum has another chance at taking one of us out, and then endgaming. I'll lay out the possibilities.


-We lynch mod, and mod is scum. GG. Town wins.

-We lynch mod, and mod is not scum. Scum get another chance at killing one of the townies.
-If the kill succeeds, scum win.
-If the kill doesn't work, you get another chance at it, 50/50 shot at hanging scum and winning. So this is what, 75% chance of scum winning (because we don't really know why the NK didn't work)

-We lynch one of the two non-confirmed, 50% shot of town winning.
-If the lynched is town and the other is scum, town loses.
-If the lynched is town and the mod is scum, we might have another chance at lynching the mod (although the problem then becomes what that next day will be like. 1 to lynch? 2 to lynch? If 1, game goes to whoever gets to the thread first? 2 to lynch, we'd HAVE to lynch the mod.)


Basically we have no idea what happens after this decision. We (Faerie and this hydra) have both pointed out that really the biggest way we know the other is scum is that you're confirmed and we aren't. But what if we're both town?

I don't know. I don't have any clue what to do right now. I think the biggest question is how likely do you think that we'll get another night with no kill? If we assume the worst (that the mod is not scum), then we're banking on a no kill, -and- you have to come back to this 50/50.
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #178) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:06 pm

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If the mod is the last scum, then there has to be some kind of ruleset as to who the NK target would be. The mod wouldn't just have free reign over the kills, since he knows what everyone is. So there would have to be some sort of system. If Faerie is the last scum, he may or may not have rules for it.


From my perspective, and I know you can't effectively see this Math because we're not confirmed to you, the best play would be to hang Faerie, because the mod would (presumably) be stuck in his rules, and if my guess about the rule before is correct, then the target of the kill would be on me. You doctor me, and then we lynch the mod. If all of that is correct, then that's a guaranteed win for town. Unfortunately, you can't be sure of this hydra.

This is all really frustrating that we have no idea what's going on. A normal game of Mafia we would know "Hey, this is LyLo, you have to pick correctly here between these two people, or you lose". We don't know what will make us lose or not. The decision is entirely up to you, Math. If you decide to lynch the Mod, one of the two of us or Faerie will most assuredly follow you, as well as if you decided on one of us, the other would follow you.
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #179) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:15 pm

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I don't think there would be 2 3rd parties left. Just one scum player?
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Post Post #1088 (isolation #180) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:17 pm

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In post 1085, MathBlade wrote: However if you are the last scum you kill FairieLord and then you me and the mod. I doctor you and the same result as last time should happen in that I doctor myself because you are a liar. The only real problem is if FairieLord is scum.
If I were scum, it would also be a toss up between killing you or FaerieLord, but that's also assuming you're right about the reflexive thing.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #181) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:25 pm

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You could try, but we got this answer earlier:
In post 942, Clumsy Phoenix wrote:
End of Day 4 Votecount
Cloudkicker
(4)
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Tiershift
, Gamma Emerald, FaerieLord, Clumsy Phoenix
Gamma Emerald (1) -
Cloudkicker


Not Voting (2)
- Mathblade


With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

@MOD:
Is the bolded part of this VC correct?

Also, are we allowed to have a role distribution update?
In post 946, SnarkySnowman wrote:No to both.

Maybe it's changed since then though. I don't know. Whatever helps you I guess.
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