Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:50 pm

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- VoteCount 1.9 -

With 9 players still alive, it's 5 to lynch!


[L-5]
mattblackguy -
[L-5]
GAYreenHamster -
[L-5]
schadd -
[L-4]
Shade -
Raskolnikov

[L-3]
Raskolnikov -
Cassielle, Creature

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schadd_, gigabyteTroubadour,

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gigabyteTroubadour -
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GAYreenHamster, mattblackguy, Shade, ThinkBig

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In post 494, Shade wrote: @Aeronaut Please don't replace me from the game! I will promised try to be more active.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:53 pm

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mod: creature also voted rask
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:53 pm

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You missed ThinkBig's unvote on 495.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:10 pm

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putting some thoughts out there while i wait on more content.

schadd_ has convinced me his reads (the main no. 1 reason he pinged as scum to me) are valid and honestly made. i dont agree with most of them but i feel that he and i also have opposed styles of reading people. i make strong judgements and then build on them or leave it null, he seems to build a baseline then adjust with strong judgements -- and with that and the small pool of info to work with in general from certain players this game, im gonna say that its very likely were weak-reading people oppositely but both putting it forward as way stronger than it should be because theres so little to make a strong opinion on to begin with.

last real concern i have with schadd_ is the lack of posting. activity is low, below GAYreen even. low word count high content makes me feel townie on him in general tho -- every post he makes stands out and because theres a small number of posts from him its easy to get polarized (strong conclusions from small sample size, etc.)

i want to go through his reads list because i feel like theres some inconsistency there idk but the time isnt right. still waiting on two people to provide content asap and i really want to drag a longwinded wallpost out of shade at some point too. harder to do that the more i focus on a strong townlean imo, because then im putting the pressure on the wrong folks.

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NULLTOWN
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NULLSCUM
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:21 pm

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hey casserole what would you do if you felt lazy and most of your scumpool was also lurking?
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:24 pm

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Or just lazy in general, I find people hate it but it's how I feel here.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:24 pm

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Maybe if you ask me more questions it'll be interesting.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:25 pm

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Working on a read list now.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:26 pm

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I'd probably sheep you if your reads looked better.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:26 pm

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I feel better about my recent reads because I've read the posts and didn't just automatically assume activity = town.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:26 pm

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Cass, not think. Hi thinkbig!
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:29 pm

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If it were one or two things different I'd try to talk about it but if it's like half the playerbase and it'd involve going over every single one multiple times would take so long
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:31 pm

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id try to stay active, call them out repeatedly. dont let them off the hook -- if i see them post, jump on it, try and pull something out of them while theyre present. if theyre not posting, keep adding clear reminders that i want them to post whenever i post something.

lurkers gonna lurk, the best you can do is make them look bad for continuing to lurk, imo

which is why im really pressing hard on mbg and tb, i want those two to post like asap, i want them active, engaged and involved so i can get good reads and everyone else can draw better supported conclusions

p-edit: as far as continuing to lean on you, i dont really feel thats a good idea juuuust yet. i want creature to put some pressure on, because ive just eased up. yeah its good cop bad cop of a sort but that works even when youre aware of it happening, so idc really about putting that in the open. also im uncertain my case is as strong as i thought it was now if im being honest but youre still giving strong scumvibes. creature said to beware folks inflating postcount way back and im getting that vibe from you, for instance. among other things, but im gonna keep that back while i work on outlining my case better.

but you sure af could look a lot better by stopping this 20 1liner post bs and focusing on content more imo, this feels like mass fluff and youre not making your case any better looking

p-edit 2: at the very least you could do as schadd_ did and do a post outlining the why of each read, thatd be a great and easy way to prove your reads are good-faith and not shallow

also: hi tb! looking forward to that reads list
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:35 pm

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Can't you just agree with people to not use postcount as an indicator of much instead trying to force me to change my posting style? If it's globally acknowledged as "inflated" I don't really see the problem?
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:37 pm

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I could go over everyone person by person but talking about townreads is pretty boring tbh.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:39 pm

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problem is theres no content atm to draw conclusions from? i think thats very fair to say, your past page of posts or thereabouts is fluffy and i cant pull anything out of it. condensing the posts into larger ones would force you to flesh out the thought processes youre following more, thats why im pushing for that.

and yeah talking about townreads is boring but when half of your trs are half of my srs it becomes a whole lot more interesting, dont you think?
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:39 pm

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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:41 pm

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First, I would like to apologize for my inactivity. I had many things that came up IRL that has caused me to be not as active as I'd like to be.

I'll respond to the posts sometime tomorrow, but for now, here are my reads.

ThinkBig's Read List 1.0

{T}Raskolnikov
{T}Creature
{T}gigabyteTroubadour


{N} mattblackguy
{N} GAYreenHamster

{NS}Shade


{S}Schadd
{S}Cassielle


Spoiler: Key
Conftown - {CT}

Town - {T}

LeanTown - {LT}

NullTown - {NT}

Null - {N}
NullScum - {NS}

LeanScum - {LS}

Scum - {S}

ConfScum - {CS}


I will expand on this read list tomorrow.

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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:42 pm

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I consider you, matt and scadd_ as full newbie clears. I guess there our biggest difference is matt so I could talk about that.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:43 pm

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LOL thinkbig did you exhaust all your effort colouring that or something :giggle:

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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:45 pm

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Lol. Nah, just copied and pasted the BBCode from aeronaut and filled in my own reads. :D
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:46 pm

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ok, lets talk about matt. also: TB's list is a real interesting looking one and i cannot wait for his explanation, because it feels ultra shallow. im holding him to that promise of expanding on the list.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:46 pm

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Now presenting, the new
ReadList 2.0


In full colour and detail, sorted for your convenience.

Coming soon to a store near you


p.s. explanations tomorrow
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:49 pm

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That's actually just WTF but also the first time I've seen anything like it
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:50 pm

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Aeronaut and other people on the site use the colours for read list. I personally like the colour codes as it is easy to see visually where you put people.
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