Open 666 - Pick Your Poison - Day 5

[Narna]

VOTE: Alisae

because there is no way a game with this many replacements has a winning wagon.

Reading now

[Narna]

I still haven't read past page three

[Narna]

And my thoughts are

[Narna]

The replacement timer isn't unreasonable by any means.

VOTE: Hawk

because reading his 10 post iso was near impossible.

[Narna]

to read...

[Narna]

VOTE: Defender

Caught up, free game, who knew?

Alisae's posts on my slot smell almost too townie.

[Narna]

The replacement timer isn't unreasonable by any means.

VOTE: Hawk

because reading his 10 post iso was near impossible.

VOTE: Defender

Caught up, free game, who knew?

Alisae's posts on my slot smell almost too townie.

HOLY NAKED VOTES BATMAN!
Explain the bold

I want to lynch either of the players on the Genda wagon last phase.

Your #257 and #261 seemed too bold for hiding scum to want to post, but now I'm thinking, it's mostly vibes from most of your posting that makes me think town.

[Narna]

I still think scum was more likely to be off of Hans' wagon, and at the very least one of them was. Falco is the only other one on the Genda wagon d1, so I'm cool with him. Simple Plan was on his ass before being taken out as well.

What did Genda do Transcend?

VOTE: Falco XV

[Narna]

Well I can't

not

trust a dog with a crown.

VOTE: Gendaberry

[Narna]

I just really don't like the amount of shadethrowing. He even calls Dwlee useless despite not voting last phase.

[Narna]

I've done a lot of MSing tonight, I think it's beddy bye for me.

Transcending after hours crew.

[Narna]

If I'm being totally honest with you, this was an odd juncture to bring up no lynching at.

[Narna]

then decided against it all together.

This kind of shows what I mean ya.

I'm not scumreading you for it, but you're the only one here, so I figured I'd get a response.

[Narna]

haha Grey and Gamma suck

[Narna]

VOTE: TTTT

For game prosperity.

[Narna]

Maybe I should post Annie pictures until I'm a universal townread.

You think you can get away with withholding Annie pictures?

VOTE: RC

[Narna]

I know you weren't here yet, but NM made a humorous observational remark about the status of our friends stuck in limbo.

He's town.

VOTE: Grey it's back (I think?)

[Narna]

I know you weren't here yet, but NM made a humorous observational remark about the status of our friends stuck in limbo.

He's town.

VOTE: Grey it's back (I think?)

This was not a good vote

Were any of them?

I didn't notice the deadline approaching. I think Simple Plan was on the right track with Falco being scum.

VOTE: Falco XV

[Narna]

I haven't seen her post, how the hell am I supposed to read her?

VCA and reads need to be taken into account.

Well yeah, but assuming you believe your VCA is useful, I'd expect you to have Narna low on your list of suspects, not expecting them to be a viable lynch candidate.

Why are you pushing someone if you believe your vote history doesn't indicate they are scum?

Because

his

actions aren't founded on

my

beliefs.

His

actions should be consistent with

his

beliefs.

Mine actions, or lack thereof aren't?

[Narna]

and my actions, or lack thereof aren't?

[Narna]

I don't follow RC's read progression on Titus. I feel like you had to be pretty confident in your read to push her despite Transcend's push on her slot. Townreading her recent content is vague.

[Narna]

0

[Narna]

I think Grey and Dwlee are more likely to be town than the rest. I was going to say Titus or RC are scums, but I'm no fan of ew posting. Alisae also seemed to be jumpy and defensive except when Lil Uzi suspected her.

The high impact shitposting and two scum self hammers are making everything seem bogus.

[Narna]

VOTE: not_mafia

Let's get this show on the road.

[Narna]

why not mafia

He's been useless this phase, and has been for a lot of the game. I thought the way Alisae was responding to every slight suspicion except for Uzi's was suspicious.

[Narna]

VOTE: narna

i dont think reading the rest of the game is necessary for me

I'd wager my interaction with Transcend before his lynch looks pretty genuine on my end, and he tried to justify his push to me.

[Narna]

why not mafia

He's been useless this phase, and has been for a lot of the game. I thought the way Alisae was responding to every slight suspicion except for Uzi's was suspicious.

Also as town, you dont really care being scumread by your scumread, you know its bullshit and has no credibility

Townies with high post counts tend to state that they dismissed someone's suspicion when trying to push for their lynch, as it reflects poorly on the accuser. I wouldn't say it has no credibility.

[Narna]

Havent read tbh

Give me your take on my interactions with Transcend on this page and the one after it.

[Narna]

Okay, maybe my theory

is

wrong.

?

[Narna]

I have reread this 4 times and not gotten any cleaner an answer.

Slight reversal on my RC read here as I've reread two or three times and have been just as stumped.

[Narna]

RC just cannot read simple players with simple play

My lynch order for today would be

Narna -> RC -> Grey/Titus -> Dwele

Ill complete reading the game before the end of the day

Why is RC your second highest scumread if you think they are simply unable to read players like Alisae normally?

[Narna]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
Kay, I think you're trying to stur up paranoia within the town. I don't think you like that a bunch of people got cleared really easily according to his logic. Which btw sounds very genuine and makes a lot of sense to me.

I'm not sure Ali wanted Uzi to actually pick up heat. Desperado starts to corner Uzi on the page after, and Ali immediately tries to change the focus to my slot and then votes Desperado (obvtown who was voting Uzi with him) when he successfully corners Uzi a page after that. It doesn't look like a genuine callout.

[Narna]

The scum is titus

Wtf was her vote on joey

[Narna]

Jk the scum is actualy joey for the self hammer hat trick.

[Narna]

Uhh it's because Titus would never tunnel as town and that's a fact.

Narna vote with me.

Forced and shitty

[Narna]

Dwlee was the obvious nk target since the whole game was townreading it.

I'm sick, so I'll probably get serious in a day or two.

[Narna]

I was testing your reaction

Even if I hadn't known that titus tunnels, I don't think taking your word for it would be ai in any way.

[Narna]

Well I can't

not

trust a dog with a crown.

VOTE: Gendaberry

VOTE: TTTT

For game prosperity.

Maybe I should post Annie pictures until I'm a universal townread.

You think you can get away with withholding Annie pictures?

VOTE: RC

I know you weren't here yet, but NM made a humorous observational remark about the status of our friends stuck in limbo.

He's town.

VOTE: Grey it's back (I think?)

This was not a good vote

Were any of them?

Why does transcend only care about my grey shit vote?

[Narna]

The meds also have me weary about Grey's read progression on me. He votes similarly to me one day, and then pushes for my lynch for a bad voting record (iirc). He comes into this phase townreading me for a post that was a mere guess/gut feeling on my part. I think this might be because I was townreading him despite his attempt at lynching me.

[Narna]

I think you waited a little long to ask that question.

Or is it your intent to simply cast shade over something I can't address?

I'm throwing shade

[Narna]

Grey has two hyphens in his name

[Narna]

The main point was that tran aligns himself with you in both 519 and 647.

[Narna]

Ok so Grey is being delusional ala the drunken Christmas party. RC deserves the win regardless of alignment for their Transcend meta dive. Titus doesn't seem to be trying, which is very unlike her.

I'm still thinking it's Titus.

[Narna]

Dwlee was killed because he wanted Narna lynched and wouldn't vote me.

Dwlee never voted me, and literally everyone including Joey/NM was leaning town on Dwlee.

[Narna]

Both Titus and I were in his scumpool and, assuming I am correctly interpreting his vca, I was the least suspicious out of the survivors.

Not only is nka shit, but I think I can smell yours when driving by farms in the middle of nowhere.

[Narna]

I've been attached to Narna for days.

You were quite attactched to me when Transcend was being run up, ya.

Spoiler:

Vote Count

Not Voting (5):

Gamma Emerald, Gendaberry, Desperado, Hawk, Transcend

D3f3nd3r (4):

A Simple Plan, Dwlee99,

Grey, Narna

Grey (1):

D3f3nd3r

Narna (1):

Alisae

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-18 10:30:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (5):

Gamma Emerald, Gendaberry, Desperado, Hawk, Transcend

D3f3nd3r (4):

A Simple Plan, Dwlee99,

Grey, Narna

Grey (1):

D3f3nd3r

Lil Uzi Vert (1):

Alisae

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-18 10:30:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (5):

Gamma Emerald, Gendaberry, Desperado, Hawk, Transcend

D3f3nd3r (4):

A Simple Plan, Dwlee99,

Grey, Narna

Desperado (1):

D3f3nd3r

Transcend (1):

Alisae

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-18 10:30:00)

Alisae has requested replacement.

Vote Count

Not Voting (3):

Gamma Emerald, Gendaberry, Desperado

D3f3nd3r (6):

A Simple Plan, Dwlee99,

Grey, Narna

, Not_Mafia, Transcend

Desperado (1):

D3f3nd3r

Transcend (1):

TTTT

D3f3nd3r will be lynched.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-18 10:30:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (3):

Gamma Emerald, Gendaberry, Falco XV

Gendaberry (1):

Transcend

TTTT (3):

Not_Mafia,

Narna, Grey

Transcend (1):

TTTT

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-23 22:00:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (2):

Gendaberry, Falco XV

Gendaberry (1):

Transcend

TTTT (2):

Not_Mafia, Grey

Transcend (1):

TTTT

Not_Mafia (1):

RadiantCowbells

Grey (1):

Narna

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-23 22:00:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (3):

Titus, Falco XV, Transcend

TTTT (2):

Not_Mafia, Grey

Transcend (1):

TTTT

Not_Mafia (1):

RadiantCowbells

Grey (1):

Narna

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-23 22:00:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (3):

Titus, Falco XV, Transcend

TTTT (2):

Not_Mafia,

Grey

Transcend (2):

TTTT, RadiantCowbells

Falco XV (1):

Narna

(I'm kinda lonely)

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-23 22:00:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (3):

Titus, Falco XV, Anotora

Transcend (1):

RadiantCowbells

Falco XV (2):

Narna, Grey

Titus (2):

Not_Mafia, Transcend

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-23 22:00:00)

Vote Count

Not Voting (1):

Falco XV

Transcend (5):

RadiantCowbells, Transcend, Titus, Not_Mafia, Anotora

Falco XV (2):

Narna, Grey

Transcend will be lynched.

Deadline in: (expired on 2017-01-23 22:00:00)

[Narna]

And let's not forget about this total cop out of an answer when Titus calls out your initial push on me

I haven't seen her post, how the hell am I supposed to read her?

VCA and reads need to be taken into account.

Well yeah, but assuming you believe your VCA is useful, I'd expect you to have Narna low on your list of suspects, not expecting them to be a viable lynch candidate.

Why are you pushing someone if you believe your vote history doesn't indicate they are scum?

Because

his

actions aren't founded on

my

beliefs.

His

actions should be consistent with

his

beliefs.

[Narna]

I'm working on it hombre. Show me a game where you are scum's "lylo wet dream" since I find that hard to believe.

[Narna]

Don't change your response to 885 yet again Grey, explain how 886 isn't a scum asspull.

[Narna]

where were my actions inconsistent with my beliefs there? And why would you know the later anyway?

[Narna]

Cool stress laugh emoji. It really convinced me to go do something better with the rest or my tweaker hours. I'll be back when RC is around, and maybe prod Titus a bit.

[Narna]

where were my actions inconsistent with my beliefs there? And why would you know the later anyway?

It wasn't about you, you narcissistic prick.

It was about Lee.

The quote chain doesn't come off like that in the slightest, but all I care about is yours truly.

Nice try to audible though.

[Narna]

also lmao at thinking scumreading Dwlee at that point makes things any better.

[Narna]

Grey, your question in 884 may have been addressed to dwlee, but you were pushing me during that time, you were voting me, asking people to vote me, and I'm pretty sure Titus' 885 is asking you why you are pushing someone who you voted with the entire day that scum was lynched (See: "

your

vote history doesn't indicate

they

are scum"). Who had a similar vote history to you, spoiler, it's not Dwlee?

[Narna]

Oh noe I'm all caps scum now11

[Narna]

I've been attached to Narna for days. She wasn't interested in casing me until today. LyLo. Know what she said about me before today?

I think Grey and Dwlee are more likely to be town than the rest.

Saving me for LyLo.

Today?

The meds also have me weary about Grey's read progression on me.

He votes similarly to me one day, and then pushes for my lynch for a bad voting record (iirc). He comes into this phase townreading me for a post that was a mere guess/gut feeling on my part. I think this might be because I was townreading him despite his attempt at lynching me.

[/b]Nothing changed at all about my read between those posts.

Dwlee was killed because he wanted Narna lynched and wouldn't vote me.

VOTE: Narna

The bolded is a lie. You were trying to lead a wagon on me despite me also wanting to vote outside of the hans wagon.

[Narna]

The fail bolded actually.

[Narna]

Hello?

I still think scum was more likely to be off of Hans' wagon, and at the very least one of them was.

Whoa.

Timeout.

UNVOTE:

I don't see scum saying this if the entire scumteam is off the wagon.

No.

Narna is very unlikely to be scum due to 566.

[Narna]

The wind is blowing this way today.

HURT: RC

[Narna]

It's you or Titus though.

[Narna]

Transcend legit played against his wincon unless one of you two were bussing. Joey made Grey seem kind of town.

[Narna]

Titus, could I get an update on your reads? You've had time.

[Narna]

Annie players are scumbutts. Should we be voting no lynch right now? This day doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

[Narna]

Yup, one of us can get lynched if we NL. Yet, no one is confirmed town. The action scum takes here tells us about the gamestate.

I trust you too.

If one of the townies thinks you're scum, they aren't going to join a wagon you're on anyway and just vote you in lylo.

I don't see an advantage here, which is why I'm playing close to the chest.

I think we have a group of strong players alive that makes playing mylo out worth it.

[Narna]

Transcend legit played against his wincon unless one of you two were bussing. Joey made Grey seem kind of town.

How does Joey make me seen kind of town?

The soft scumread and interactions you guys had before his lynch seemed really similar to CK and you in Aero's alchie christmas party.

[Narna]

VOTE: Narna

PoE. Titus and RC are both hard town for me.

That's cold dude. I thought we could be lylo lynchbait together. I still think it's one of RC and Titus for now, and moving into lylo the pocketed one will off Grey or I for a loss.

[Narna]

I can also cry whatever I want.

It's been a minute since I've played with it, but this pinged scum!Titus for me. What do you think Titus reader?

[Narna]

VOTE: Narna

PoE. Titus and RC are both hard town for me.

That's cold dude. I thought we could be lylo lynchbait together. I still think it's one of RC and Titus for now, and moving into lylo the pocketed one will off Grey or I for a loss.

Which, Narna? And why?

The wind is blowing Titus' way at the moment. Her entrance was sketchy. The first thing she does is ask you about your joke vote while wagon shopping for something that isn't Transcend. She also said that she would look for Trancend's partner because he was was hard bussed with the way he tanked his own lynch, but quickly hard pushes you. I don't see how I jumped from "cleared through vca" to a scumread that is about to get lylo'd. I think she was referring to me when she said RC was townreading scum for no reason today when she herself had a reason to townread me last phase. I'm seeing a lot of say one thing, do another. I'm also struggling to justify the "scum isn't incompetent" bit naturally coming from town when scum blatantly brought their lynches upon themselves (Superhans had a

bad

game). I could see Titus being overconfident with Transcend, but that's all I can really come up with to explain that statement.

[Narna]

I also like the way the three of us are seeing a potential Lylo going poorly and trying to avoid it.

[Narna]

Because I'm a narcissist bro. RC said I was town like twice recently. I wanna say, just before Titus said that.

[Narna]

That looks like a weak ass vote to me. L-2 for a cliche? Is meta there alone why you were so sure on Titus? The second sentence comes off as more of an excuse to not get called out than a reason to vote for him. If that makes sense.

[Narna]

Transcend was shitposting up a storm. I feel like town would have called him out rather than put up a barrier if they planned on voting. We're crossing into flimsier territory now though. Dammit Grey.

[Narna]

Is meta there alone why you were so sure on Titus?

That and the fact her slot was on the Superhans wagon because of my belief that he wasn't bussed.

That's fair. Genda's vote on Super was part of why I gravitated towards scumreading RC over Titus initially.

[Narna]

I could drink to that idea.

[Narna]

I don't think putting Titus at L-1 when she's a page and a half behind and offline is smart. I'll drop the vote today though.

[Narna]

Oh shit RC's vote is still live. I could have been legit conftown.

[Narna]

Fuck yes!

[Narna]

brb replacing out and back in right quick with my new found lease on life.

[Narna]

Grey you're nutty.

No, but I am still not going to support a hammer test after seeing first hand how fucking stupid it is.

[Narna]

You do realize you're the defacto NK if we no lynch today, right?

RC/Titus/Grey

Who's scum, now that you can answer without fear of reprisal?

I was being honest with Titus. I wanna see her turn up before I waste my time and recycle my reads yet again overthinking everything..

[Narna]

The alternative was town spending a week with Giga and Cass hating each other and thinking each other were scum only to be wrong.

Do you not see the parallel, Cass... I mean, Narna?

Hell no, I read RC's request and nope'd out of the tab when I saw Schadd's vote tag below it.

[Narna]

Wooosh, explain it to me like I haven't slept in over two days.

[Narna]

Wooosh, explain it to me like I haven't slept in over two days.

Imagine if, in that game, Cass had been the one confirmed instead.

The dipole broken, everybody would have been forced to reconsider their reads.

Well that goes without saying. I thought there was some banter I was missing by not reading the other hammer test.

Feels like Titus is ducking this game.

It's kinda felt that way for a cool minute.

[Narna]

We're not no lynching at this point, so please give out specifics Titus.

[Narna]

I, Narna, originally posted the following message, but with non-broken bbcode, which is in violation of the rules:

Titus a

CUTE

[Narna]

You are a troll

[Narna]

I know zyf used spoiler tags. I used spoiler tags earlier. You didn't punish titus for the computer dying bit because it wasn't ai indicative, but killing the towniest slot in mylo for CUTE apparently was ai.

[Narna]

Grey was super shady for hammer testing after saying it was dumb considering that was the only way for scum grey to play it out. But I didn't gey a chance to talk about that.

[Narna]

Not resetting the vote count was game breaking. It's also dumb how I was forced into not posting for 48hours for dropping a prod despite being ready and willing to play multiple times.

If you want to influence the outcome of games, stay a player.

[Narna]

I made a distinction between button spoilers and blacked out spoilers.

Explain the difference. How is one less noticeable than the other? Break it down for me.

[Narna]

No one wanted in your shitty game dude. He had every chance to vote. I don't know what you're on about saying he didn't. It also heavily influenced Titus' decision making in lylo. It was game breaking in that scum could have ended the game based on an unexpected foul call by the mod. Who cares if Grey didn't vote in that time?

[Narna]

I don't care about counterfactual hypotheticals.

I'm pretty sure most of a mods job is entertaining hypotheticals. That's what making a setup and rules is all about.

It shouldn't have influenced Titus's actions.

SeymourSkinner out of touch.gif

I dunno why I'm trying to rationalize with you here. Quiz time, would you do it again?

[Narna]

I made a distinction between button spoilers and blacked out spoilers.

Explain the difference. How is one less noticeable than the other? Break it down for me.

BTW, if my judgment regarding blacked out spoilers was incorrect, then what sort of things is the hidden message rule referring to?

Super well thought out modkill asshat.

/pre-in for your next game

[Narna]

Ooh life is good. I can't fucking wait.

[Narna]

Ooh life is good. I can't fucking wait.

I hope to see you all there