The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

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did I accidentally leave it on again? lol oops

you can move the tpads. when you break it, the ender crystal pops out. place the pad wherever and then right click with the crystal to put it back. be careful not to shift right click though! you'll reset the teleport coordinates in the crystal.

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Sorry yall! I've been seriously busy with class. I'm trying to make it possible for others to contribute - I know arch, dav, gabe, you guys have always been so great! - I just need to find some time to actually sit down and make that happen.

Maruchan - whitelisted.

As a note, my summer class is over Aug 10th. So I do apologize that everything kind of ground to a halt - I hadn't expected the work load to be as much as it turned out to be. But I miss mc terribly and I do have plans to finalize the server.

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Also there appears to be a named zombie causing problems somewhere.

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I would get time-out'ed 4 out of every 5 times I tried to connect.

This is usually a connectivity issue - internet or connection to the node. Our nodes are in Chicago (I believe) so if you are connecting from across the pond, you may have issues, especially if your home internet is slower to begin with.

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lol...

SoL is client side only so get rid of it. it's there to show food/saturation values.

curse client is fine I guess. I don't have much experience with it. but it would be more user friendly for non-modded-experienced players who don't want to learn how to fiddle with mmc.

as far as I can tell, there's really no issue with using curse as a mode of delivery. we just have to figure out all the quirks.

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*SoL

should be

client side only but a lot of the client side mods got uploaded to the server and I haven't had a chance to get rid of it yet.

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also dynmap link works for me...

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I'll check again when I get home. might be a config thing

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correct. SoL wasn't meant to be server side so I can remove it.

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meaning, if you have it on the client and not the server, it acts like a display mod.

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it may need more ram. I think it only has 3 right now

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yes!

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turns out we have 6.

rhinox send me your fb details and I'll add you to the group chat

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yeah plus updated mods on old server and other worldgen nonsense, default configs, stuff like that. once I'm done with configs and reset world, should be a lot smoother.

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we are mid-update at the moment, which means a brand new server will be started soon.

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you can certainly bring your friends, but you are responsible for them. that's all

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jeez m try not to scare people away lol...

our rules are pretty simple in any case. no griefing, no stealing, and don't be an a-hole.

rhi - email address works best cuz I dunno what you look like to say which "you" is you

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as soon as we figure out how the new launcher works for people to get the pack downloaded

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Official MafiaScum Minecraft Server NEWS!

Hallo!! As you may have noticed, activity regarding getting a server going, maintaining a server, etc, has slowed down quite a bit over the last year. Unfortunately, my time obligations have increased to the point where I am no longer able to keep up with needed updates. As such,

davesaz

(Archreplicator) has stepped up to help out, and ultimately, take over as admin for the server and this thread. He will be the main man when it comes to getting the modpacks together, releasing information here in the thread, and general admin activities. I'm still available to help as needed of course, and I'm fine continuing to maintain hosting for the server. I assume he will also select a co-admin to help out.

So, what does this really mean?

It means news updates on server activity, questions/answers, assistance, etc will be available and happen far more frequently and quickly than I am able. That's a good thing! He's been an active member of the server and mafiascum for some time now and has become more and more familiar with the various mods and utilities we use to maintain the server and packs. Definitely feel free to ask any questions you might have, or come to the IRC. Hopefully, what this also means, is increased player activity as we will actually

have

a server ready for people to play on.

Thanks again, Arch!!

(As a side note - no need for facebook info any longer, as it was mainly a way for me to keep in touch with people who had questions or whatever, since I'm never able to get on IRC anymore.)

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We can do that and it's easy enough to set up. The only problem was no one ever played but it only needs a gig or so of memory so I can create the server on our host if arch is ok to do the rest.

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Ok, so Vanilla 1.10.2 works. IP is 162.223.8.203:25576

OP is updated.

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there will always be a modded server I can't play without at least mouse tweaks and WAILA

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or some kind of automation options

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I think the draw is that a lot of the people who like modded aren't big builders. Some are, like Klaz, but he also really likes Vanilla. People like me or dav are more about creating more and more complex systems, rather than building. Because let's face it, neither of us can build beautiful things

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it probably has something to do with sp6. I forgot I was messing around with Morpheus for vanilla. I was trying to connect it to IRC and it wasn't working.

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lol yeah. there are actually. and baby polar bear cubs too!!

just select 1.10.2 from the minecraft launcher and connect to the multiplayer IP listed

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no spawn town yet but keep in mind we can set the spawn point so if you find a nice spot, let me know coordinates and I'll go set it there

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On the vanilla server:
02.09 14:55:23 [Server] Server thread/WARN Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? Running 6621ms behind, skipping 132 tick(s)
with just 3 players (and it was doing this last night with 1 player!)

Is this node CPU poor or something? It is running the minecraft 1.10.2 jar, not even forge right now. Maybe multicraft is inserting something that takes a lot of resources?

apparently it's a common issue with 1.10.2 - that watchdog nonsense - but I haven't found a solution yet. I can give it more ram and also assign sp6 to you so you can make changes to it

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fixed vanilla issues

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i lied.

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On the vanilla server:
02.09 14:55:23 [Server] Server thread/WARN Can't keep up! Did the system time change, or is the server overloaded? Running 6621ms behind, skipping 132 tick(s)
with just 3 players (and it was doing this last night with 1 player!)

Is this node CPU poor or something? It is running the minecraft 1.10.2 jar, not even forge right now. Maybe multicraft is inserting something that takes a lot of resources?

apparently it's a common issue with 1.10.2 - that watchdog nonsense - but I haven't found a solution yet. I can give it more ram and also assign sp6 to you so you can make changes to it

We haven't encountered this at all on our 1.10.2 server. It's modded and very much so - especially if this is a problem that occurs for you on both Vanilla and Modded, it's your host/server. Not Minecraft itself.

you haven't encountered it on your modded 1.10.2 server because it's modded. vanilla has a built in "anticheat" function that caused tick rate issues until server crashed whenever someone with client side mods connected. that has now been fixed.

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the issue with the modded server is something else. two separate things, not the same error.

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Sorry about that - I was updating the RAM. lag on vanilla has now been fixed as well.

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Since I couldn't get morpheus working, if you are on the server,

please pay attention to the chat

- if someone types "zzz" and you're not near a bed, log off real quick.

I got Morpheus (and fast leaf decay) working. No mods needed or anything on your end - it's only to avoid the whole zzzing nonsense. And because waiting for leaves to decay sucks balls.

Gonna work on connecting it to IRC as soon as I can figure it out.

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VANILLA NOW HAS IRC!!!

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whitelist wasn't on at all at first that's all and it didn't recognize a copy of the one we had before so we had to rebuild it by adding people manually

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selecting beta version

Yeah I discovered this myself. You have to go to the versions tab to select the 1.4

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Spoiler: i made a thing

there is free food in there just replant

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is it like the one on IES?

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arch - server properties has a spawn protection option - I just set it to 1. however, I'm not sure how that affects the chunk loading mod. on IES I don't remember if that fixed t cuz no one was able to open the chicken stick chest

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Can I get white listed (Porochaz) on vanilla please?

done

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Regarding theft on Vanilla

This is not ok. To protect from further issues, anyone who has newly logged on in the last 48 hours who has not been on previous whitelists has been removed for a probationary period while logs are reviewed.

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No need to rollback hours/days of work for replaceable items.

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what if I filled up the oceans

thoughts

let's not seek to destroy things like forests and oceans

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The rail from spawn to M/Maru/Klaz's place is finished, and is over 1000 blocks long in a straight line

This station is behind Dav's house by spawntown (the pyramid) and a spawn station is in progress.

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Hey everybody.... How's it going? I am back after three and a half years MIA.

hallo!

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BEAUTIFUL!!

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how do you afk autofish in vanilla?

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i had no problem doing it in my mmc instance with forge

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So brought this up with klaz and arch yesterday but something is up with hostile mob spawns... or down rather. As in, they're barely spawning now.

So, there's a setting on the server properties regarding view distance. It determines how much the server loads on the back end. The more it loads, the more mobs will spawn because they are spawning in further locations. However, it increases the lag. Turning this option down decreases the lag, but also the amount of mobs that spawn - in general, not just hostile mobs.

Add in grinders and breeding farms, and that goes down even further.

So I can turn the view distance back up, but you'll get the lag back. Or I can leave it where it's at, and you'll have to be ok with fewer hostile mobs at night.

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To be clear, the option is not directly a setting for mob spawning. It's for chunk preloading.

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[19:57] <Vanilla> <Porochaz> well at least I can now say I lead a horse through hell

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yeah. working on getting a different pack loaded as only a few people were able to play it

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Modded - Bevo's TechPack Reborn

IP: 162.223.8.203:25575
Version: Release 2.0 - Minecraft 1.7.10
This pack is downloaded from the AT Launcher. You will need to add NetherOres & Iguana's Tinker Tweaks to your mods folder.
If you get a "fatally missing blocks" error, delete your config file and use this config file instead.
Forge .1614
Admins: davesaz (user archreplicator)

The new modded server is up and running

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update - you MUST replace your config file with the one listed, or you will have some issues. nothing major, you can play just fine without it, but it will work better overall with that one.

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It's back - my bad.

Jackal - try removing Matter Overdrive from the mods folder.

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you should already be whitelisted.

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don't forget to include your username when asking to be whitelisted cuz we are probably not going to want to search the thread for it.

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I removed my shelving unit yall <3

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also jmj or somebody moved into my backyard, and built a soulsand tower, and carved a chunk in my desert and stole my oil.

>:(

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dude fix the deep channels you put in my beautiful desert and move somewhere more suitable that isn't someone else's area pretty please. at least ask next time.

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normally i dont care and i love having neighbors and sharing stuff but ASK FIRST is all i'm saying.

soulsand tower is oogly.

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i still play modded sometimes!

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modded/vanilla was down for a couple days but looks like no one noticed anyway it's back up now

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i'm here for page 777

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quicksand?

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There's quicksand in minecraft?

in modded with biomes o plenty there is

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cool scummers

Depends on how you define this term, but since MS Modded is kinda dead at this point, and Vanilla isn't much better... "neither"?

welllll

as i've recently found myself unemployed until i decide i want to have a job again, i'll be playing quite a bit more often

im probably gonna get back to vanilla for now until i remember how to modded

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i made wind things!

they make a cool wind noise.

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people come play with me on modded. i'm rediscovering things.

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Soooo....

if you're in the IRC, we will need you to temporarily disconnect so we can reclaim it, since I lost OP rights when my username became unregistered, as I hadn't logged on in a while due to school/work.

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i'll be taking a look at 1.10 packs. but i still wanna take a mainly backseat position on any pack endeavors. i'll be happy to be around and help.

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people come play with me on modded. i'm rediscovering things.

Update to 1.11...? Maybe?

Not 1.11. Not enough mods/support.

For now I'm taking down the Bevo server and putting up a server with the DW20 1.10.2 pack from FTB. World file for the old server will be uploaded.

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yep OP updated. i'm uploading files now. should be ready shortly barring any stupid errors.

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AAAAND it's live and ready to go. Same IP. See OP for pack info.

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There was an update to the pack recently so use the FTB launcher and select

version 1.5.1

of the pack.

Lycan - try adding BetterFPS to the mods folder (you can find it at here). That helped a lot for me.

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When I get back to school after spring break (Tuesday, March 14), we will update the pack as it contains several bug fixes.

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MODDED SERVER UPDATE

The pack has been updated. We are now using Direwolf20 1.10 pack, version 1.8.1 (for mc 1.10.2). This update can be obtained from either the Curse client or the FTB client. Please post if you run into issues or have questions.

Most recent changelog can be found here (YAY thermal expansion!)

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i dunno honestly - i never experienced it that bad and when i was on this afternoon testing everything seemed fine BUT cofh tps showed 50% in OW so.... i wouldn't be surprised if some automation at my place or yes' is the culprit.

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i changed the view distance on server settings - that usually seems to fix the spawning issue but probably a combination of both. grinders always drop out spawns

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Changed it in which direction?

from 6 to 9.

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I HAVE DISCOVERED THE CAUSE OF THE LAG

FORESTRY

It's very existence in the pack causes lag spikes and severe lag - no idea why, but tested out in SSP and pre-removal it was horrendous. Took it out and suddenly everything was very smooth and good FPS (for my laptop).

Also I may or may not be working on a new custom pack for SP7/MC 1.11.2

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Could we maybe do another quest modpack? I really enjoyed the one we did with the magical crops and stuff.

Oh like a special event-type server? Like agrarian skies or that other one. I know Yes was messing around with the latest skyblock pack. I'll check it out. We could maybe do that while I work on the new one.

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I've been playing Craft of the Titans - it's pretty awesome. Very tough mobs but very well fleshed out quests (tons). It's definitely a challenge to play

Where is that one located? FTB, Curse?

Hi there, wondering if you guys still accept new people?

Always Remember to post with your username.

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it will be soon. ive been working on it kinda casually but i can hustle it more i'm going away this weekend but when i get back on monday i'll get back to it more seriously

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no objections but #ugh at skyblock

skyblock sux

personally, i like it a lot better than agskies. way less grindy, plus lots of new/different mods i've never seen before.

it takes a LONG time to load up (at least for me, i have a shitty laptop), but once loaded it runs beautiful with zero lag or stutter or anything. NOTE THOUGH - two things: tinker's smeltery towers = huge lag, as well as the mystical agriculture crops, so no towers, but the crops are fine as long as you have them a bit on the edge of your base (as opposed to right in the middle )

also also also...

i've enslaved klaz in my autosifter on ssp (sthar8 on left and davroe19/fuzzybutternut on right)

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Some screenshots of my area:
http://imgur.com/a/O5YHo

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fixed. i forgot to mention the chance cubes -

Don't ever open those

. Throw them in the void. I am willing to replace them with a legendary loot bag.

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how do we get lootbags

trade with admin - me or arch

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TP blocks are now at spawn, which can be reached with the /spawn command. If you need to add your cords but no admin is on at the time, post your desired coords here in X Y Z format.

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fixed. i forgot to mention the chance cubes -

Don't ever open those

. Throw them in the void. I am willing to replace them with a legendary loot bag.

UPDATE:

1) There is now a wither/chance cube area with a TP block at spawn to get to it.
2) The nether is now a void as intended.

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Hey Xev, maybe check that you know what you're talking about before trying to say that something insta-kills a Wither. The Pig of Destiny didn't do shit, and now I can't kill the thing in the Wither area. Have fun with that thing; I tried everything. Also, the entrance to the Wither area needs to be completely blast-proof. Right now it's not. Use EIO's Dark Reinforced stuff, or whatever it's called. They have a door too, I think.

You could have checked too you know. In any case, spawning a wither before you're ready to kill it is irresponsible.

Anyway the wither is no more.

Also, the EIO fused glass isn't wither proof, and there are no doors available that are. The only actual wither proof item in EIO is the reinforced obsidian block which, as you may guess, is not transparent. aside from that, actually additions has reinforced glass that is actually 100% witherproof and the observation cage in there is already made of that. the blocks that came off were enlightened fused glass that i used for light.

If anyone is going to use that room to spawn withers or open cubes, you MUST clean up when you finish, which means killing ANY REMAINING MOBS and removing any added blocks, and picking up all the drops. If this doesn't happen I'm just gonna remove the cubes and dismantle the wither room so you have to create your own and deal with the fallout at your base.

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Also spawn protection is preventing me from getting a grave with all my combat gear so guess who's signing off tonight boiz and gurlz~~~

fixed. chest next to your tp block with junk in it.

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my client froze dopus. also i'm wearing PJs. it's my last bit of time off

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wow you've been busy! can't wait to get online. soooon. work is kicking my ass

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i finally found some time to get on and y'all broke it

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1.12 looks good BUTbotania, baubles, EIO and tinkers are all still currently missing (as of this past weekend) - major "must have" mods, so in the interest of getting a new server going, i'd suggest 1.11.2 tbh

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botania is isn't really a "must have" but it's super dandy

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arch do you have a link for sf3 world file?

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The SF3 world can be found on Google Drive, as file skytest.zip.

Thanks! I'll add this to the OP when I get a chance.

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The SF3 world can be found on Google Drive, as file skytest.zip.

Thanks! I'll add this to the OP when I get a chance.

Done

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ok so... can someone help me with downloading modpacks from curseforge? because i dont fkn get it. i cant just download a zip file with everything in it, i have to load the stupid ass launcher?

#annoyed

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I believe (not 100% sure of this) that all the modpacks (not individual mods) available on curse/curseforge do indeed need the Twitch(used to be Curse) launcher. If you have a modpack in mind, I have the launcher already loaded on my laptop. I'd be happy to download what you need, zip it up and put it on my Google Drive for you.

i would love that yes! just make sure to make it private and put it in a pm

thanks oso! i actually just found a downloadable copy of "server files" that contains all the mods and configs, i assume, minus client-side mods, which i'm fine with. i'll add my own.

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a house i made

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Took out RC and it solved most if not all of the gen lag.

sounds about right

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it is possible to update and keep the world

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just fyi - everything on exile has now been downloaded and exile cancelled. i'll get a link for the vanilla world up in the op later

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Also ETL if you can update the OP for modded that would be great.

done sorry it took me so frackin long. school started and i got busy

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I think Forge is at 2386, not 2476.

I always recommend just getting the latest forge as it will work with any mods written with for previous forge versions (for that mc version of course) and it also allows for easy updates without having to maybe troubleshoot and discover forge also needs updating.

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So what's going on with the vanilla server?

I'm sure we could make a new one. I'm kind of out of the loop these days due to work/school obligations. What's the latest with vanilla mc updates? 12.1 or something right?

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so, I tried loading up SP7 again and it just wont even load. It's a bit too chunky for my computer

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pretty sure the vanilla server we use already has irc?

It does because we installed forge on it.

arch - mmc and all recommended settings. my laptop is just crappy. it's fine; i dont really have time but i was hoping maybe to just look around and play casually between exams

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I've been itching for some modded minecraft. Could you whitelist me?

My username is jjh927

i texted arch. he should see this soon anyway though

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Yeah I seem to have lost channel operator there as well. Not sure what happened.

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Oso did I kick you off by accident??

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So.... I'm uploading DW20 modpack from FTB for 1.12.2

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FTB direwolf20 pack v1.4

- NOT the "recommended". Don't be like dav ♥
mc v1.12.2 (forge .2566?)
IP: msmcdw20.g.akliz.net

I'll update OP later

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Oso did I kick you off by accident??

Not that I know of. I have just been super busy lately and have had just about enough time to eat and sleep and not much else.

hopefully come january we'll see you around again? pack is plug-n-play, super easy

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Morph is back yall

[14:06] <DW20-12> A​rchReplicator has left the game
[14:07] <archreplicator> hmm, something just went strange
[14:07] <archreplicator> my viewpoint looks sunk into blocks, and 3rd person i'm a pig
[14:08] <DW20-12> A​rchReplicator has joined the game
[14:09] <DW20-12> A​rchReplicator has left the game

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because there is no guarantee you will be there to pay it. not because it's taking advantage of you.

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that is why military cannot take any form of no credit check loan.

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Need to add netherending ores to the client side.
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projec ... nding-ores

Is this the only change (configs or mods) from normal DW20 v1.4.0?

forestry and all related items were disabled.

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Twitch

are you selecting v1.4 for the pack?

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We fixed it, thanks!

what was wrong with it?

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psyche download the FTB launcher and get direwolf20 1.12 v1.4. there's a link in the OP

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She has a bunch of entities, I'm using ingame info xml and it showed 1400 in the entity count last time I was there.
Best guess is spawner's on and storage is full.

oh wow... i was not planning on being gone this long... school is kicking my ass... i'll go fix it after midterms this week...

BUT GUYS

I JUST APPLIED TO

GRADUATE!!!!!!!

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I think we can do vanilla for a bit. I think. I'll check - maybe davesaz you can set up a 2 GB vanilla on the akliz thing? I'm so out of touch these days.

I've been thinking a lot about minecraft lately too. Really miss playing with people and coming up with weird shit to build or do.

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Plain vanilla, or make things like IRC work?
Easy enough to do either one.

IRC might be nice if it not a lot of extra trouble or as long as it doesn't affect people from just joining without extra steps on their end.

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soooooo...

the school semester ends in a few weeks, and i'd like to start working on a new custom pack at that time. the horizons server will be around until i'm done with that at least, which shouldn't take too long but at least a couple weeks, maybe? final exams are the week of the 24th, so figure it could potentially be up and running by early/mid-may. thoughts?

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cuuuute!!

one more final to go guys! then i'll be around again yay!!

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ENDER IO IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!1

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hey can someone put the mods and configs folders for reveleations up on google drive for me?

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That would be very helpful, thanks! That way I can download it onto my thumb drive at work and just bring it home without having to bring my laptop from home to somewhere with decent internet.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UOhQIB ... sp=sharing

yay thanks maru!!

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Thinking of poking my head back in. Also probably going to stream my play, if that's okay with everyone else.

YES

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Been a busy week. Should have some time to play sat/sun though.

me tooooo

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Bulb I'm sorry - I thought you already were as well! I was mobile at the time but I'll double check here in a moment.

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done!

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NEW MS CUSTOM SCUMPACK 8

I promised I would start working on this over this weekend So here's what I want YOU to do! Post mods you are interested in, along with a link and a short description, here in the thread so I can go through them and check them out. The version you'll want is 1.12.2. Also let me know if it's a release, alpha or beta version, and understand that most likely we will not be including alpha versions of mods.

The plan is to have a beta pack ready for testing by the end of the weekend. Hopefully.

From Blake:

Blood Magic (alpha) - magic mod centered around using your blood to power rituals and stuff. Lots of automation, armor/weapons/tools, etc.

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oh man! so many good ones!

also OPEN BLOCKS <3<3<3

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I swear to god I died a little inside when I saw a 2-sentence response to my novel

fk me why do I have so many OPINIONS about MINECRAFT

IMA MOBILE!

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Ender IO (does not say in the jar if it's release/beta) -- old favorite with a new mechanic which requires lighting bedrock on fire.

It's a release!

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Creeping Nether --- Essentially, instead of just the occasional Zombie Pigman coming through an active Nether Portal, the dimension itself can spread like a disease, corrupting nearby blocks into Netherrack or Soul Sand, and spawning Nether-specific mobs. I'm sure speed, maximum distance, etc. are all configurable, and it could make for some really interesting builds, but all it takes to prevent is just a deactivation of the Portal. Another interesting but lightweight addition.

This is getting a hard no from me lol... but super psyched to see aether back and love the night dim.

Also you know how I feel about IC2 in general so TechReborn is a thought. I generally prefer to include RF-only mods with the exception of like, whatever that one is with the lunar panels.

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Lunar Panels are in ExtraUtilities 2...?

yeah that.

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ETL, what's your timetable on this?

I'd honestly caution against including thaumcraft yet if it's happening very soon. the version i checked out was a few beta versions prior to this, and its still incomplete. I'm personally envisioning it getting finished up within one or two months, though.

beta pack ready for testing by end of this weekend, and realistically at least 2 weeks of trying to break things. i'm interested in thaum but if it's not ready it's not ready, and we can always look at it later.

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Yeah the RFTools suite should go in. IMO those are pretty standard.

Yep

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What mod can i use to build a kick ass maze?

<3 you guys wish I had time to play

My first thoughts would be chisel for decorative blocks, secret doors for... secret doors XD

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If Rhinox comes back and makes a maze at spawn, he can have creative mode to do it

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Just read it at some point! And hopefully respond... for my sake.

On the subject of AE2 vs RS

I'm in agreement with you that AE2 is "interesting". I personally prefer Refined Storage as it is simple, does what I need it to, and doesn't make me rage like AE2 does. They are both fantastic and both have unique features that the other does not. If I had to choose one over the other, for SSP, I'd probably go RS, BUT, I'm fine with leaving out RS simply in favor of a less bloated pack. I do recognize that AE2 provides more utility on the whole than RS does, so that's ok with me.

"YES"'s from M's list of dim stuff:

TechReborn

- looks like a better IC2. I don't care for IC2. Some of the items are fun, but easily replaced by others from better mods, imo, but this is a good addition.

Hunting Dim

- this is a BIG yes from me, simply for the AS utility. We'll have to see how they work together, if they work together. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Simply Void

- Yes, why not. Seems easier to use than going the RFdims route and void worlds are generaly server-safe.

MAYBE's

Dimensional Doors

- I remember this being server-crashing and buggy. Very cool concept; would need massive testing on beta server to be included in final pack though.

Aether

- Always loved the idea, and never got to play with it properly. Would have to see how it fares on server as far as lag/tps.

Betweenlands

- sounds interesting, I like that it's "opt-in" as a dimension you have to visit to participate. Curious about how well the server will handle it though.

NetherEx

- Ok this looks pretty neat. Would like to see how "cluttered" it makes the Nether. Of course BoP nether biomes will be disabled for the most part (I think we onlylike the "bone" one, anyway, right?)

Three new armor sets, a brand new set of weapons, and four new food items allow for pure Nether survival. Three new potions introduced in NetherEx gives you a lot more options for various approaches to fights. An all new boss is introduced for you to summon and vanquish. Sixteen new structures can be found and explored, these new structures include nine mini dungeons with more on the way. A new gem can be found that allows you to trade with the Pigtificates, which can be found in their villages hidden inside the Nether, guarded over by their faithful golems and ruled by a greedy chief.

NO's

Creeping Nether

.... I'm personally not interested in having to disable my portal every time. What if I'm coming back from someone else's? NetherTaint isn't appealing to me. If others are super into this, I'll consider it, I suppose, but in terms of space for other mods, this is very, very, very low on the list.

Others

EnderIO - yes
Mekanism - maybe (it's one of my faves, but super OP, so we'll see)
OpenBlocks - YES
Weather Overhaul - ehhhh.... I'm gonna say no on this one. First, rain and t-storms? We don't need more of those. I toggle them off immediately anyway. Second, server load.
Zombie awareness - maybe. could be interesting. if there's room, we can consider.
Da Vinci - BIG YES.
Embers/Roots - Maybe. I still haven't gotten into either of these, so it's a positive maybe.

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Speaking of Dims, Lost Cities is probably not gonna be included, in favor of something like TF instead. TF provides more "purpose" and if we're gonna have people genning chunks in other dims, I'd prefer it to be TF over Lost Cities, which loses it's novelty fairly quickly, in my opinion. If you have a serious disagreement with this idea, let me know what you think and what I'm missing.

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Also... the thing I really love about RS that isn't a thing in AE2 is the remote access function. It's expensive enough that it's not "OP" -you have to go to the end and collect ender rods to make it and even then the power requirements are huge, but immensely useful for my lazy ass in the mid to late game.

nvm. Just found what I need to add to AE2 to make this a reality.

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I don't think "vast majority of playerlist has not bothered to try" is a justification for not including something.

I meant it as a justification TO add it

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Mekanism - I'd disagree that it's comparatively OP! (Unless you're talking about the Obsidian Tools/Armor.) The amount of time and logistics it takes to actually get to 4x Ore processing are... almost not worth it for most peoples' usage. And by the time you get automation going for it, you could probably power (for example) the Digital Miner 24/7 and just get more base Ore, instead of maxing out your efficiency.

Maybe it's just me, but I can usually rush a digiminer before I have a full set of EIO or TE stuff. Powering it is not that bad even if you have a slow trickle from something like an IE windmill. With the dimensional energy blocks from RF tools (I think), you can "set it and forget it". It's a generous boost into the late game, foregoing much of the mid-game machine and automation stuff, especially when you're talking about using it to find draconic ore in the nether. That's my only concern, because I've personally done that

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Is nether portal fix still a necessary thing?

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WAILA or HWYLA?

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Ok that's what I thought.

without exhaustive work involving recipe tweaking, you can "rush" anything, skipping nearly all other mods. That isnt a mod problem.

Sure, I guess, but nothing can help you find draconic ore except flying around and looking with your own eyes.

Unless you have a digiminer.

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I think I agree re: RF Dims. It's kind of like MystCraft when it comes to customizing your own dimensions. Disastrous if done wrong but awesome if done right.

Here's the starting list

Feel free to add to the suggestion tab. That's where I'll be working from this weekend. The basics are there already.

Regarding Forestry.... the Forestry "package" is so friggin bloated man... look at all the mods you have to add just for this one thing:
* Binnie's mods
* Forestry
* Gendustry
* JEI bees
* magic bees

BUT I KNOW YOU GUYS LIKE IT SO I GUESS I'LL PUT IT IN But if that's what we're doing, the dimension mods are going to be at a minimum. i.e. no aroma dim or others that will have forestry generation

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If you're worried about beehives in aroma -- aroma is almost all stone now and hardly anything generates there naturally.
Plus.. dimension whitelist/blacklist in config.

Oh cooool..... mining dim might be great, especially if we need to adjust oregen.

But hopefully we all get a good idea of oregen before testing is over

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Regarding Forestry.... the Forestry "package" is so friggin bloated man... look at all the mods you have to add just for this one thing:

FAT. BIG AS HELL. MORE THAN IS NECESSARY.

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Like who is gonna play forestry without all the BEE STUFF??

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i know i know.. i'm the only one who can live without forestry XD

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rc tools quarry doesn't need pearls to run i don't think

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my inputs are in

don't be meme-y. da vinci is already on the approved list.

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I CTRL+F'd IT AND DIDN'T SEE IT

>anonymous narwhal

It's still going on there.

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oso - nuclear craft is a hard no for me. much dislike. but ie is in.

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the main issue i had was the cluttered ore gen. i can definitely customize ore gen to where only certain ores generate at very specific y levels to avoid crowding if NC is a mod you all want to play with it would just take some research

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Not much to fear on that score in terms of NC oregen -- it's already in layers.

blech. i will look at the ores. maybe we can disable some if other mod ores will substitute though i'm guessing they won't. the ore crowding is really my largest complaint about whatever that pack is right now.

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Post 20,000 pagetop!

NOOOOO it was spose'd to be mine

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it is!! nc probably won't be though...

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The Bone things are from Natura, IIRC, and I believe they're just generated structures, not a full biome. But I could be wrong.

I found it but it has been removed from BoP anyway

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BOP biome	Yes/No/Maybe
Marsh	yes
Meadow	maybe
Moor	no
Mountain	yes
Mystic grove	yes
Ominous woods	yes
Orchard	yes
Outback	no
Overgrown cliffs	maybe
Praire	yes
quagmire	no
Rainforest	no?
Redwood forest	yes
Sacred springs	yes
Seasonal forest	yes
shield	yes
Shrubland	yes
Snowy coniferous forest	maybe?
Snowy forest	yes
steppe	no
Temperate rainforest	no
Tropical rainforest	yes
Tundra	no
Wasteland	no
Wetland	yes
Woodland	yes
Xeric shrubland	yes
alps foothills	no
mountain foothills	no
pasture	yes
glacier	maybe?
gravel beach	yes
white beach	no
coral reef	???
kelp forest	NO
origin island	yes
tropical island	maybe
volcanic island	maybe
flower island	maybe
corrupted sands	no
fungi forest	maybe
phantasmagoric inferno	no
polar chasm	no
undergarden	no
visceral heap	YES - FOR M

http://biomesoplenty.wikia.com/wiki/Biomes_List

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yep those will be disabled. visceral heap is M's favorite biome

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on the link

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If everyone who's planning to spend a significant amount of time on the server could take a look at the suggestions tab and add their comments to the notes column, that would help me narrow things down. I think it's getting close to a testable list.

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yep those will be disabled. visceral heap is M's favorite biome

I got that from the list. My comment was effectively (or perhaps ineffectively) asking why. I hate it with a passion, but maybe I'm overlooking something useful.

It's usefulness is in direct proportion to how much it creeps M out

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Working on this a bit. Initial list almost complete. Will upload for testing to begin tomorrow Default configs. I'll work on configs while we test on server.

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Arch can you prepare a server in akliz? I'll be able upload the files to google drive tomorrow morning. I'll include all the library files, whitelist and everything we'll need. Just gotta get it on the server.

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Yes, and if 4gb is enough to test we can keep the horizon server active during testing.

Provided all the mods are available on curseforge, I can put it in a new version of scumpack for direct client download (for people who can do that). Easiest way to do that is to have the modlist be accurate, and i can build an instance directly in twitch client.

4GB might be fine. It is currently accurate. I'll make sure to note any changes if they get made and let you know. For now, I'm still working on getting it to load at the moment. I'll let you know when it's ready ready

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.2675

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Things I noticed while searching for mods:
Is redstone arsenal an intended omission or an oversight?
Immersive petroleum y/n?
Ranged pumps is definitely superior to other pumps...

Ok. Will add.

Edit: it launched, yay! I'm using all defaults rn, to get the config directory populated.
I'm not trying to do double work, might be best if you popped on irc?

Extra cells is asking to use in-game wiki mod. Y/n?

Nah.

Gonna need to take out Thaumcraft for the time being though. It's definitely not ready.

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Question: why redstone arsenal? we have rf tools and thermal innovation, plus a crapton of other mods that add rf-power tools

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removing thaum dropped my SSP instance's memory

Same here. Huge difference in fps.

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added immersive petroleum and ranged pumps, dave

SSP and server is rather different in terms of fps and memory usage

yeah but that is still going to eat memory on server. and besides its not even finished yet.

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Just FYI ARch:

Akliz Support
11:52 pm (2 days ago)
to me

[PLANNED MAINTENANCE] Server Machine Move May 22 00:01 to May 23 23:59 EST

This maintenance event replaces the one that was scheduled for May 7, which was postponed.

Start: May 22 00:01 EST
End: May 23 23:59 EST
Type of work: Server machine move
Impact of work: Your server will be unavailable for a few hours or less during the maintenance window.

We'll be moving your server machine to a new suite that can support our expansion. During the move, we'll inform your players by chat (Minecraft only) that we'll shutdown your server for a few hours or less. Your files, IP address, etc. will remain the same after the move.

Please reply to this message if you have any questions or concerns or experience issues after the move. Thank you for understanding!

Note: We're only sending this email to you, the primary account holder. You may wish to forward this message to any admins who you may have added to Command Center.

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Uploading files now.

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Also, are you adding Rustic?

I added it to the suggestions tab. It's not in the list currently but I'm sure there will be changes over the next couple weeks. I need to look at some of them a bit further, and also want input from others. There are mods that I left out because they're things I would leave out of an SSP pack, but that doesn't mean others don't enjoy them. Like waystones, RLD, etc.

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Here's a download link for the current beta files - client only:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aoXVee ... sp=sharing

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FORGE .2675 or higher. If anyone needs help setting this up, ask here or check IRC. I'll be in there all day as long as the stupid thing doesn't keep kicking me like it was yesterday.

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To whoever "ele" is in IRC - the not responding happens to me too because I have super slow old laptop. If you let it go long enough eventually it powers through and loads up. However, I allocate up to 4 GB of ram for it which helps as dave said. To do that, right click and edit settings then go to memory or java tab (can't remember what it's exactly called). You'll see a min, max and permgen settings. Change the max to 4096 for 4 GB. Make sure you have at least 1.5 to 2 GB left over for the computer itself to run.

You can check how much total RAM the computer has by right clicking on my computer and choosing properties.

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On both the client and server I have found that Java 8's default settings are not the best.
Two additional parameters can make a huge difference.

-XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC

Example minecraft settings page for curse/twitch client. This setting is at the very bottom of settings->minecraft.
You can probably get by with less memory as needed.

This setting can help with lag spikes, doesn't always though.
I don't have a screenshot for multiMC but it's in advanced java settings.

There's a big open text box at the bottom you can just copy/paste into.

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.2675 is minimum required for one of the mods i forget which. da vinci is supposed to be in there i dunno. i'll check. update today yah

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Numerous people want it, so it should be in when we update.

Speaking of update, ETL you gonna be doing this? Or I can...

Yes please - I ended up having a lot less time to myself this weekend.

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ok

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noooo. archimedes was also 40%. its supposed to be 40%.

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If flying within two days of server start with da vinci regardless of this percentage. The question is do I kill 50 sheep and make. Pretty flying fortress or kill 5 sheep and be basic as fuck and fly a flat balloon floor with a bed and a chest?

That's entirely up to you. Build up your resources a bit more and then you can make a bad ass pirate ship with a giant balloon holding it up.

We can help

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I think this's a question of enjoyment vs realism

If it's really an issue, I'd consider dropping it to 30% but no lower really.

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Maru - I don't want to drop it at all. But you're making such a huge deal out of this, I'd be willing to drop it just to make this conversation end.

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Oh look a flying pirate ship

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I'm not going to go changing recipes. The mod is balanced already in my opinion. You can find a way to work with it the way it was intended or do something else. There are a lot of options in this pack for you to play with and discover.

Please no more on this subject. It's not changing.