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Post Post #287 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:40 am

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Hello, I hope this game is less of a dumpster fire than my last one...
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Post Post #293 (isolation #1) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:19 am

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After reading the thread I really don't like arc, karnos, or charloux...
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Post Post #294 (isolation #2) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:20 am

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In post 290, culted wrote:
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Would a deadline extension be asking too much?
New player catching up + holiday = reasonable request to me
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Post Post #295 (isolation #3) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:31 am

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Archive is my prime read of the day, she has plenty of time to be involved in several games including starting a new one but lacks the time to post more than the bare minimum? She seems to be lurking with the intent to slide under the radar.

VOTE: arcangel9
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Post Post #296 (isolation #4) » Sun Dec 25, 2016 4:32 am

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Freaking autocomplete...
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Post Post #306 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:02 am

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Lurking is anti-town, and anti-spam looks very scummy...
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Post Post #307 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:03 am

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In post 306, Darkshadow64540 wrote:Lurking is anti-town, and anti-town looks very scummy...
Edit via double post, freaking autocorrect...
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Post Post #313 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:15 pm

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ArcAngel has time to post in and run several other games yet is unable to do more than a minimal check in here, that screams scum
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Post Post #315 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:44 pm

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And why would that be? I say it's because she was trying to slip by.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:34 pm

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Is it worth reiterating that I also feel off about you and you are the only one defending arcangel?
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Post Post #320 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:40 pm

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That said I do agree with waiting for her say her piece.
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Post Post #367 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:32 am

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Sorry for the lack of activity, year end BS at work. Give me a few minutes to catch up
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Post Post #368 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:08 am

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My current reads:
BTD6_maker - v/la makes it a pain to read...
Lemons - currently town
Charloux - slight scum read
culted - I don't like you but not quite scum
karnos - SCUM
rb - TOWN
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Post Post #369 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:13 am

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That said, both of my town reads are voting one of my scum reads.

Intent to put Charloux at L-1, waiting prevent a fast lynch
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Post Post #374 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:12 am

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In post 372, rb wrote:I'm actually so bad at this game rn.

I wish I had better reads, I don't. RK/Charloux are my top scumreads atm, that's literally it and that doesn't even make a lot of sense as a scumteam necessarily.
RK has left this game, I was their replacement. That said what's your opinion on karnos?
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Post Post #376 (isolation #15) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:35 am

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In post 372, rb wrote:I'm actually so bad at this game rn.

I wish I had better reads, I don't. RK/Charloux are my top scumreads atm, that's literally it and that doesn't even make a lot of sense as a scumteam necessarily.
Dumb question, how did you not notice RK had left? It's not like there has been much of note and you even replied to me.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:24 pm

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BTD6_maker - v/la makes it a pain to read, I hope like hell you get active real fast because this game is just painful
Lemons - currently town but you really need to get involved more
Charloux - that last post, I want to lynch you just for that... that said you are likely scum
culted - I'm liking you a bit more, you are now an even neutral, please keep it up
karnos - SCUM, and nothing you have said has changed that.
rb - Oh wow, please for the love of god drop the awful attempts at humor, you went from a town read to a mild scum read

I admit I haven't been very active myself, this is only my 2nd game and I'm not really sure how to lead a town with no active players...

I also reiterate my intent to vote Charloux but am only holding back to avoid a quick lynch as my vote puts them at L-1
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Post Post #398 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:29 am

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My reason for not putting Charloux on L-1 is simple, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8574362
This happened in my last game.
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Post Post #399 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:32 am

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But you do make a great point, VOTE: karnos
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Post Post #400 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:40 am

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In post 287, Darkshadow64540 wrote:Hello, I hope this game is less of a dumpster fire than my last one...
My first game had a town power role self hammer on day one, and an idiot fast hammer on day two. Yeah, I'm a bit gunshy about L-1.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:58 am

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It's amazing how convenient that would be for lurking scum...
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Post Post #404 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:59 am

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Also this was your first mention of a problem connection...
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Post Post #405 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:03 am

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Expressing intent to hammer this scum.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:04 am

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Wait, he's only L-2?
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Post Post #407 (isolation #24) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:15 am

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Oh, it was more of rb's funding awful humor...
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Post Post #408 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:17 am

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In post 407, Darkshadow64540 wrote:Oh, it was more of rb's fucking awful humor...
Edit via double post (damn autocorrect)
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Post Post #411 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:26 am

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In post 396, rb wrote:i swear if charloux also flips town then i'm just gonna blame the loss on both of them for having basically no idea how to even be remotely town. there's seriously no way anyone can be expected to tell the difference between town that do literally nothing and scum that do literally nothing

like if you guys are both town then pick a new hobby
Tone whiplash from posts like this to humor really hurts credibility.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:39 pm

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I thought the bastard trick of this game was death miller, not surprised jester...
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Post Post #418 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:30 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #419 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:32 am

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Did your N1 check show as guilty?
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Post Post #426 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 5:45 am

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VOTE: Charloux still scum, now at L-1
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Post Post #430 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:13 pm

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Hydra again.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:18 am

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In post 434, Charloux wrote:3)He gave his emotional opinion, not reads. and "reads" with "" was meant to imply i was sarcastic. I can see scum motivation from his votes though. Forcing Karnos to claim and putting me to L-1 only after he had no more alternatives for pushing.

@Karnos: I though you hinted that you got a guilty on Lemons last night, but didnt want to claim >.<
If you actually READ my posts I was pushing against both you and Karnos, the only reason I didn't actually vote you was to avoid putting you at L-1. I expressed why I didn't want to put you on the edge AND that I intended to make the vote when the deadline closed in.

I let off Karnos for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #438 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:20 am

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As far as using emotional terms for my reads, I lacked clear evidence so all I had were feelings to go on.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:33 pm

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My vote for karnos was due to his point in post 397 that if I didn't want to put Charloux (who I scumread) at L-1 I should vote my next best scumread, who was him at the time.
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Post Post #449 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:39 pm

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Culted, my dislike of you never quite reached scumread, I disliked the naked votes and a number of your questions felt like distractions. The V/LA didn't help, I always think it looks a bit suspect.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:48 pm

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His posts are severely lacking, I'm getting a feel that he's stalling.
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Post Post #452 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:50 pm

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And yes, I do see V/LA as a tool scum can abuse to stall without the normal stigma given to lurking
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Post Post #457 (isolation #38) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:13 am

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was the first red flag, it feels like a game of chicken and is very anti-town, then the sudden lack of posting as soon as the heat was off him, finally the magical Internet connection.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #39) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:16 am

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And by stalling I mean putting in just enough effort to appear active but is really just running out the clock.
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Post Post #508 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:08 pm

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In post 506, BTD6_maker wrote:My read on Lemons is weak-moderate Town. It wasn't any post in particular (just about everything could theoretically be faked) but his ISO overall seems more Townish to me.

Either way, I still consider Culted at roughly moderate scum.

It seems Karnos claimed PR. I am also in favour of Karnos fullclaiming. I am presuming he got an Innocent on GL, in which case GL is cleared provided there is no CC.

I will still not claim until someone gives intent. Claiming now is anti-Town. Is this site meta to claim at L-1? If you were not going to be lynched anyway, why claim and give information to scum?
How the he'll did you miss GL getting killed night one?
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Post Post #510 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:50 pm

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How can we trust your reads? Missing both Karnos's claim and the mafia's target, you CLEARLY haven't been reading the game. There's only one type of player that can make claims without knowing the gamestate...
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Post Post #511 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:51 pm

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Expressing intent on this scum
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Post Post #513 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:02 pm

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I've already stated my opinion on the V/LA
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Post Post #515 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:08 pm

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You have your intent, you want to wait for the full claim so you can claim a 2nd power role so our actual power role needs to come out to cc you. Plain and simple, I do not trust you.
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Post Post #516 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:09 pm

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Lynch in 18 hours
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Post Post #517 (isolation #46) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:16 pm

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Mod, exact deadline?
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Post Post #519 (isolation #47) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:23 pm

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Night one invest results?
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In post 515, Darkshadow64540 wrote:You have your intent, you want to wait for the full claim so you can claim a 2nd power role so our actual power role needs to come out to cc you. Plain and simple, I do not trust you.
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Post Post #522 (isolation #49) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:10 pm

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Karnos, are you the cop or not?
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Post Post #549 (isolation #50) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:24 am

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In post 529, rb wrote:just got prod, i'm a gunsmith and i literally forgot to investigate night 1

so one of them is lying
Please confirm if you were joking again or actually serious.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:31 am

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BTD, what were your night one invest results?
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Post Post #560 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:33 am

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OK, I had to ask, your tone was hard to read.

VOTE: karnos
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Post Post #561 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:35 am

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FUCKING, I THOUGHT HE WAS STILL AT L-2...
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Post Post #566 (isolation #54) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:43 pm

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RB, who did you check and what did you get?
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Post Post #570 (isolation #55) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:38 pm

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I must be the miller then, if you people absolutely need to be sure go ahead and lynch me
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Post Post #571 (isolation #56) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:40 pm

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but please work out the 2nd place option before you kill me
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Post Post #574 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:26 am

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In post 573, Charloux wrote: This doesn't really mean anything, but i am the deathmiller based on all the bad things that happened to me this past month. Rb forgetting to use his action also probably saved my life.
Please explain further.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:39 am

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You guys are right to lynch me today but before you do remember, RB will be killed tonight if the scum have any sense. Please find the scum while he's here to give his take on things. I admit I fucked up at the end yesterday and I should swing for it.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:03 am

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You still appear scum to me
Lemons I am liking a bit less than before but not scum
Culted looks town
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Post Post #579 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:06 am

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I also admit RB is the better player, town take his reads with much more weight than mine even if I wasn't the miller.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:37 am

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BTW if I flip green rb is the maf
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Post Post #582 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:39 am

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But at this point I believe I am the miller, as such I will flip red
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Post Post #592 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 589, rb wrote:Just realised why this game was so confusing when he wqs one of my top TRs, cos he's fkn scum
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Post Post #594 (isolation #64) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:03 pm

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fair enough

Lemons, can we get your take on everybody?
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Post Post #595 (isolation #65) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:05 pm

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I know I'm today's lynch but I want tomorrow's lynch or lose to be figured out before me and rb are gone.

That said rb can lynch when he feels ready.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #66) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:30 pm

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I know I should be the lynch to day but just in case you decide otherwise.
VOTE: Culted
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Post Post #609 (isolation #67) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:50 am

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My vote goes wherever rb tells me to put it.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #68) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:17 am

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In post 611, culted wrote:Not even sure what I've done that's scummy.

I think dark's hammer is pretty close to a scumclaim.
I think the fact that he had two scumreads (karnos, charloux) the whole game and never deviates from that to be scum indicative.
I think that his interactions with karnos aren't great.
RK voting karnos first thing gives me pause but it is a possible buss considering she moved on to charloux first opportunity.
His play today hasn't really been great either- his read and vote on me is opportunistic seeing as I was the only one in the pool he thought was town,, just makes little sense to bend so easily but it's possible he respects rb so meh.
My vote on you is simple, rb thinks you are scum, therfore I am giving him the option if he wants it.
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Post Post #616 (isolation #69) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:19 am

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In post 609, Darkshadow64540 wrote:My vote goes wherever rb tells me to put it.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #70) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:20 am

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At this point I'd self hammer if he said to.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #71) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:22 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #637 (isolation #72) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:25 pm

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In post 635, Charloux wrote: If he isn't scum for some reason i have no idea what to do.
This is why I haven't been lynched yet, figure it out while we still have rb.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #73) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:51 pm

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If nobody has anything to say lynch me and be done with it.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #74) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:46 am

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Both could be scum but I am leaning Lemons.
Lemons is a lot less active than he was in my prior game with him and the way he jumped when I gave the opportunity could be read as trying for a mislynch into lynching me tomorrow.
Culted is more active than typical scum but there is something off there.
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Post Post #643 (isolation #75) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:04 am

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Hence why I didn't meta read you till now
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Post Post #658 (isolation #76) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:16 am

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In post 657, Lemons wrote:Looks to me like he forgot to refresh the page before posting and didn't see rb's vote.
Acting normally is one thing, but encouraging a PR to give their results when everyone else had forgotten about it is another thing entirely. There's no reason for scum to be the first to point that out. If he hadn't, it's likely we wouldn't even be discussing it right now.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #77) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:18 am

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I honestly thought he was at L-2
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Post Post #660 (isolation #78) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:27 pm

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Mod, can we get a time remaining or at least an end date in the next vote count?
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Post Post #661 (isolation #79) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:31 pm

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In post 653, rb wrote:you know the worst thing, if charloux flips town along with arcangel it means town was literally playing with 2 people not even trying.

why the fuck even sign up for a game
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Post Post #663 (isolation #80) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:16 pm

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Everybody, please declare your votes for tomorrow assuming I'm lynched and RB is scum's target (aka common sense)
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Post Post #666 (isolation #81) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:01 pm

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Plain and simple, I fucked up and I fully expect to die for it.
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Post Post #668 (isolation #82) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:04 pm

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Is it safe to assume you vote tomorrow is on Lemons?
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Post Post #669 (isolation #83) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:07 pm

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My issue is you keep needing to rub my nose in the mess I made. We all know that I fucked up and am going to be lynched for it, what BEYOND that do you have to say
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Post Post #670 (isolation #84) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:10 pm

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I am not asking for forgiveness or absolution, I am accepting my fate and STILL trying to help town.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #85) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:17 pm

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Now here's a question, when I turn out to have been the miller does that make Lemons defense of me still scummy?
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Post Post #679 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:46 am

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Charloux
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Post Post #680 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:47 am

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Lemons is my 2nd pick...
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Post Post #681 (isolation #88) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:57 am

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In post 672, culted wrote: Somehow knows that you... didn't refresh the page? I mean that's throwing you a pretty large bone considering there's preview-edits.
If you hit 'jump to first unread post' and there are new posts continuing on to the page after that you don't get a notification unless someone posts between when you start composing your post and when you submit it.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #89) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:05 am

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That doesn't excuse me not seeing rb's vote (I totally deserve to die for that) but it's an example of how the preview edit is imperfect
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Post Post #693 (isolation #90) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:55 am

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I still say it's charloux
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Post Post #713 (isolation #91) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:49 am

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In post 692, Charloux wrote: VOTE: Dark About time we end this charade and lynch this scum as far as i'm concerned.
Please explain why you posted this if you really wanted rb's input?
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Post Post #722 (isolation #92) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:28 am

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But both the cop and the gunsmith had yet to reveal and I had yet to screw up enough for them to both check me.
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