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Post Post #14  (isolation #0)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:17 am

VOTE: Human Sequencer
Probably the most likely wagon to hit scum atm and I don't have any good reads on anybody else yet
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Post Post #20  (isolation #1)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:45 am

L-1, time to claim I guess
I'm town one shot game winner, tonight I win the game if I'm not lynched or nightkilled
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Post Post #22  (isolation #2)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:49 am

No, it was a gambit. Based on your question that I baited you into asking, you are scum, and Human has been acting really towny while at l-1. I also buy their claim.
VOTE: Vedith
Die scum die.
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Post Post #32  (isolation #3)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:02 am

ITT: Vedith and Human Sequencer meme all game while everybody else lurks

In post 53, PsychoticDave wrote:I thought about being a Lady and forgot I chose to be a Gentleman.

In post 30, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 25, Creature wrote:Oh right I missed Vedith's vote.

You missed the first vote against Human and put her at L-1?
Seems really unlikely. If anything, you were hoping for a lolhammer.
VOTE: Creature


PEDIT: lol what the fuck is this creature
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Post Post #35  (isolation #4)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:06 am

Human is the preferred shortening of my name.
VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #38  (isolation #5)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:08 am

wow would you look at this hothead^
i wish i could be as cool as him
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Post Post #54  (isolation #6)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:56 pm

If I wasn't on this wagon already I would probably hammer tbh.
Serious post.
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Post Post #55  (isolation #7)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:58 pm

Wait, I'm not on this wagon, and it's not L-1
VOTE: Vedith
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Post Post #56  (isolation #8)  » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:59 pm

^hammer this for an easy scum lynch, trust me
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Post Post #57  (isolation #9)  » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:00 am

(^again, this is a serious post)
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Post Post #67  (isolation #10)  » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:07 am

In post 62, Vedith wrote:Human hammered.

I wish \o/
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Post Post #69  (isolation #11)  » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:14 am

In post 59, Vedith wrote:Pretty sure NN30 and Human are the scum team.
This is with my wise experience.

Enjoy the most inactive game you will ever be in. :giggle:

Vedith acting dumb for the townread, he 100% knew that I wasn't the hammer
Don't believe his lies, lynch this scum
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Post Post #71  (isolation #12)  » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:17 am

:up: The throes of a half-willed scum who knows he's outplayed :')
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Post Post #78  (isolation #13)  » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:04 am

In post 76, Mewtaph wrote:I'm liking everyone on the Vedith wagon (as of 1.02) for town except for Tenshii.
VOTE: Tenshii

This means you should be on the vedith wagon not the tenshii wagon
Lets gooooo p4 scum lynch
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Post Post #114  (isolation #14)  » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:24 am

Creature is (probably) town lol
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Post Post #117  (isolation #15)  » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:02 pm

Can't answer that right now, because I'm not sure myself.
is horrible, so is
I have good feelings about Tenshii right now

Vedith still needs the rope
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Post Post #119  (isolation #16)  » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:09 pm

Vedith is scum though :D
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Post Post #121  (isolation #17)  » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:13 pm

HS: 'Creature is (probably) town'
Vedith: 'It probably means Human/Creature scum who are trying to distance one another.'

Are you being obvscum on purpose just to fuck w/ me or something?
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Post Post #123  (isolation #18)  » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:16 pm

How angry are you that I pinned you down on page 3 :^)
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Post Post #126  (isolation #19)  » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:27 pm

^this is caught scum trying to charisma himself into a mislynch, don't believe his lies
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Post Post #129  (isolation #20)  » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:24 am

nn30, you should be on the Vedith wagon <3
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Post Post #138  (isolation #21)  » Sun Dec 11, 2016 10:52 am

Yeah not liking misa. They're very scummy as town though, as a meta read. I'll need more than that.
Not on Vedith though. He still needs the rope.

nn is kinda town.
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Post Post #143  (isolation #22)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 8:00 am

In post 142, Vedith wrote:Getting rid of 1 chosen for 1 scum is a decent swap for scum, this is the only reason I can see Human playing the way he is.

This is probably why you're trying to get rid of me tbh.
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Post Post #173  (isolation #23)  » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:33 pm

You've barely said anything, tho.
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Post Post #189  (isolation #24)  » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:15 pm

Town read on dave is growing for me.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68980
Just iso her, it's literally 15 posts.

Shadow, please post more.
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Post Post #190  (isolation #25)  » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:17 pm

Tenshii kinda town.
Creature kinda town.
nn kinda scummy.
Dave is a pretty strong tr at this point.
Vedith needs rope.
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Post Post #193  (isolation #26)  » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:23 pm

Unsure on shadow. Need more.
It's either 'probably town' or 'probably scum' once I work out his personality though, none of this 'kinda' bullshit.
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Post Post #197  (isolation #27)  » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:39 pm

@nn A lot of empty jabs at a lot of slots earlier that you rescinded and changed your mind on.
@Vedith what does that post even mean, could you rephrase that?
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Post Post #228  (isolation #28)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:32 am

vedith wrote:I still can't see any other reasons for Human doing nothing but push my lynch other than I'm chosen.

Nah not really, valid reason is that you're scum.
vedith]Until his recent posts, he made no attempt in looking at others at all.
I get the "Lets just stick to a lynch" attitude, but in some point during the game, you need to look at others, there's not only 1 scum.[/quote]
'JD has only recently decided to look at others.
This is unsustainable. At some point, JD will have to look at others.'
NAI, but silly logic.
[quote="vedith wrote:
If you and Human are scum buddies and we lynched you first, it would mean that Human is forced to keep going for my push or scum claim by changing, or scum claim if I flipped chosen.
You flipping scum is a win for town.

Vedith is setting up mislynches, this man knows who is town and who is scum and he knows both creature and I are town.

Literally what the fuck guys, post moar.
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Post Post #229  (isolation #29)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:33 am

EBWOP
vedith wrote:I still can't see any other reasons for Human doing nothing but push my lynch other than I'm chosen.

Nah not really, valid reason is that you're scum.
vedith wrote:Until his recent posts, he made no attempt in looking at others at all.
I get the "Lets just stick to a lynch" attitude, but in some point during the game, you need to look at others, there's not only 1 scum.

'JD has only recently decided to look at others.
This is unsustainable. At some point, JD will have to look at others.'
NAI, but silly logic.
vedith wrote:If you and Human are scum buddies and we lynched you first, it would mean that Human is forced to keep going for my push or scum claim by changing, or scum claim if I flipped chosen.
You flipping scum is a win for town.

Vedith is setting up mislynches, this man knows who is town and who is scum and he knows both creature and I are town.

Literally what the fuck guys, post moar.
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Post Post #230  (isolation #30)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:34 am

Creature and dave are town.
Mewtaph kinda town.

Need more posts please!
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Post Post #239  (isolation #31)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:58 pm

Creature wasn't either, he was spectating.
Creature is referring to my first game on site, since which my playstyle has evolved greatly.
You can check it out on my wiki. I was town in that game, but I've also been town in every game since and the difference in playstyle carries over to those games as well.
Vedith has a lot of experience with me since, and he should be able to confirm that with a simple ISO of me in 1744. He won't though, because he's scum.
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Post Post #240  (isolation #32)  » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:00 am

In post 231, Creature wrote:Mewtaph, MisaTange, Tenshii and maybe shaddowez are useless by heart. nn30 isn't usually useless.

This is a good post.

@creature Could you explain in more detail what you mean by that comment on 1744?
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Post Post #247  (isolation #33)  » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:40 am

Mewtaph is goodposting
Mew is either better at mafia than what I would first assume or town
Mew, who is your greatest scumread atm? Can you give me more details about what you think about tenshii?
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Post Post #251  (isolation #34)  » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:58 am

AH FUCK
I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT DUCKING AVATAR ALL GAME
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Post Post #265  (isolation #35)  » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:16 am

I've gotta agree w/ you there TTTT, I'm still trying to work out whether that's just how nn always posts or whether my lie radar is valid
Haven't gotten around to an nn meta read to verify yet, good to know that somebody else has picked up on it though
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Post Post #271  (isolation #36)  » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:35 pm

i'll move my vote to nn when vedith is lynched \o/

still need to do that meta read but it'll probably be in like two days because i'm busy as fuck atm, i mostly just need more townreads before i can be more confident in anything except scumVedith
no idea how you're scumreading dave tbh
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Post Post #284  (isolation #37)  » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:56 am

Can't agree with you there Mewtaph, I still read creature as town.
Don't understand the TTTT wagon yet.
Four days left, lynch vedith please. Might compromise to nn is push comes to shove HOLY SHIT POST MORE SHADDOWEZ
Might compromise to Shadow if this keeps up, is he usually this lurky?
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Post Post #289  (isolation #38)  » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:21 pm

We are three days to deadline.
Knowing where my vote will be if pressured by the deadline is helpful to town. I am openly willing to compromise lynch these slots, and I have no idea how that is even slightly scummy.
Looks like you're just trying to toss a whole bunch of shade tbh.
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Post Post #301  (isolation #39)  » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:00 am

I need shadow to post more before I make my input for today. Especially about their read on Vedith.
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Post Post #308  (isolation #40)  » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:20 am

OK shadow is town
Let's lynch vedith please
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Post Post #311  (isolation #41)  » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:24 am

In post 305, shaddowez wrote:
In post 196, Vedith wrote:
In post 195, nn30 wrote:Why are you scum reading me human


If you're actually town and not scum, it's probably because you're not a chosen one and Human is trying to mark you as one hoping for my flip of chosen. :up:
As I said, 1 for 1 is good for them, then to paint someone else as a chosen, cherry on top.


This is scum who screwed up their own ruleset and is pushing for something they don't even need. As soon as one chosen is lynched the other can be NKed, so there's no reason to force a lynch on both.

In post 1, ChaosOmega wrote:- As long as both Chosen Townies are alive, neither can be night-killed or endgamed (1 or 2 Mafia Goons vs. 2 Chosen Townies is a town win)

Before anybody picks up on this and tries to skew it in a scummy light to toss shade (I'm looking at you Vedith!) yes, shadow is misunderstanding Vedith's post and the ruleset and this makes him -town-
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Post Post #328  (isolation #42)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:09 am

In post 326, PsychoticDave wrote:I've still said all I have to say.
I'm just waiting for the day to end.

You're town, but you're BADPOSTING SO FUCKING HARD
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Post Post #439  (isolation #43)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:42 am

i have literally five minutes before i start
this is my input:
creature is town
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Post Post #476  (isolation #44)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:42 pm

VOTE: nn30
ok
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Post Post #495  (isolation #45)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:32 am


Feels off. Very 'Well this is a list of things town doesn't want, and this is why I'm against them townread me plz' peppered with a little bit of Vedith discredit. This works as scum motivation if Vedith is scum or town, as scum nn is going for distancing play, as town nn is going for townie discredit. Backed up by the mini-tunnel he works himself into in posts and it's successor. At least his push in 80 is at least somewhat based in logic, even though it's shoddy logic. Worth noting he calls out Vedith for scumreading me and voting nn, yet he scumreads Vedith and isn't voting Vedith, instead jumping on Creature soon after. Speaking of...


Creature's logic is perfectly sound, and regardless, bad logic is no reason to scumread somebody. That said, I see this slip up as far more likely coming from townNN compared to scumNN. There isn't much scum motivation behind this push, considering it's so early any wagon nn can formulate is unlikely to end in a lynch. The only conceivable reasons I can think of are if Creature is chosen or if Vedith/NN are a scumteam, which is worth noting for later. Town motivation is 'lol this dude's dumb lynch scum lol'


Dave had nothing to say in 100. 100 is a stupid post. More NN townpoints.


Good post. Legitimate point against Misa. Kinda worried about how much he's changed his top target, though.


Townpost. Kinda towny in a way that jives consistently with what he's posted earlier, misguided scumhunting. No real scum motivation.


Another townpost with no real scum motivation. I doubt NN is onball enough to think about asking for that meta as scum, it seems much more likely to come from a good little towny trying to understand the game better.
His read change on Creature bleeds town to me, it reads like nn realized that in the moment he was just wrong and there was no reason to get all huffed about it. Massive townpoints for this post.


Reads genuine.

Pretty sure NN is town at this point, anybody have any incriminating posts past this point they want me to give a closer look at?
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #496  (isolation #46)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:37 am

btw, I neglected this game for a few days so I'm treating it like I just replaced in with hiraki and grendel, expect more posts like ^
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Post Post #497  (isolation #47)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 5:56 am

@mod
Now that the replacements have settled in, could we please have an official deadline?
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Post Post #506  (isolation #48)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:18 pm

In post 494, Hiraki wrote:
In post 311, Human Sequencer wrote:yes, shadow is misunderstanding Vedith's post and the ruleset and this makes him -town-


A) Why isn't this just a person making a mistake rather than town making a mistake?
B) Can you explain your Creature townread a little more? Specific examples would be nice. The only reference I can see is your reference to 231 (in 240) and I don't see how you get that it's a town post. It's literally just his opinions - is he town for agreeing with your thoughts?

Missed this.
The mistake Shadow made is inherent to his wincon as scum. scumShadow would make sure they understand their wincon and some other information about how to go about it, and even if he missed that, whatever plan the two scum discussed pregame would confuse scumShadow into re-evaluating his understanding of the rules.
Unless it was a ploy to make me think this, which I highly doubt is the case.
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Post Post #507  (isolation #49)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:18 pm

As for Creature, I'm doing a read evaluation and will get back to you on that.
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Post Post #508  (isolation #50)  » Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:31 pm

In post 499, Grendel wrote:@Human, Why did you vote nn30 originally?

How did you go from scum reading my slot this whole game to... forgetting that it existed as soon I subbed in?

I had an outdated and stupid scumread on the slot because I was still playing in my old style of 'Be really bad at mafia'. I didn't really pay much attention to the game, noticed the wagon had switched and changed my vote appropriately.

I scumread Vedith like nothing else, but when a replacement comes in it fucks with me. So I'm waiting for you to produce more content. I've realized that my scumreads are garbage and my townreads are alright, so I'm tackling the game from another perspective now.
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Post Post #518  (isolation #51)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:24 am

Yeah on a dave reread he's scummy as fuck. Far too much vote hopping, and his indignant viewpoint on his shit play reads like he has a scum ulterior motive. I'm not sure what it is, though, because he's so shite at this game I couldn't begin to pick apart what it is. The point is that it reads as disingenuous.

If this flips scum, Creature is a good candidate for chosen.

VOTE: Dave
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Post Post #519  (isolation #52)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:30 am

The fact that nobody jumped on me for my bullshit push on Vedith makes me unlikely to be chosen
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Post Post #521  (isolation #53)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:04 am

More deets please?
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Post Post #523  (isolation #54)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:22 am

@adachi
Human wrote:Pretty sure NN is town at this point, anybody have any incriminating posts past this point they want me to give a closer look at?

Your reasons given for voting him are shoddy at best, I don't read him as a particularly experienced or logical player, do you have any evidence to say otherwise?
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Post Post #524  (isolation #55)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:23 am

If only you replaced into vedith's slot, then you'd be a slam dunk lynch
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Post Post #526  (isolation #56)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:32 pm

I believe his actions and mindset are more consistent with 'inexperienced town' than any kind of scum.
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Post Post #527  (isolation #57)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:32 pm

Dave on the other hand makes perfect sense as inexperienced scum.
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Post Post #530  (isolation #58)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:42 pm

In post 529, Grendel wrote:
In post 515, Hiraki wrote:
Town will always win as long as they avoid lynching the chosen ones correct? Then who is and isn't chosen is more important then who is scum.

Like in a 5 way lylo with 2 chosen ones, 1 regular town, and two mafia. A long as the chosen town aren't lynched town wins, the regular town being lynched results in town wining because mafia can't endgame the chosen ones together, and of course lynching mafia results in town's victory.

Though this is true, I've been mostly ignoring the whole chosen townie thing. It's a secondary wincon town shouldn't even need, especially considering it forces scum to over-extend in obvious ways. A chosen flip is almost more helpful than a scum flip in terms of associations.
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Post Post #531  (isolation #59)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:42 pm

Botched tags, whatevs.
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Post Post #533  (isolation #60)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:45 pm

Of course.
Which is why I don't want to lynch nn (not scum) and instead want to lynch Dave (potentially scum).
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Post Post #536  (isolation #61)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:47 pm

Can you at least sheep my sound reasoning here? Or otherwise discredit it with sounder logic?
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Post Post #538  (isolation #62)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:48 pm

Worth noting nn has the third most posts in thread.
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Post Post #539  (isolation #63)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:49 pm

I particularly like nn's read progression on Creature. I'll be kinda sad if he's lynched.
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Post Post #545  (isolation #64)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:54 pm

Well nn's real life business compounded with a pretty inactive game in general could easily explain it.
I've never played with nn, fair, but just based on content I'm pretty sure he's town.
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Post Post #549  (isolation #65)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:56 pm

In post 546, Creature wrote:Btw, Human, why did you disappear earlier?

Got busy irl, lost motivation in this game in particular (replacements, mindblock, otherwise), rethought my strategy as town.
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Post Post #552  (isolation #66)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:59 pm

Showering, be back soon friendo

Point me towards any posts in particular you find interesting, and I'll give you some sound analysis
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Post Post #567  (isolation #67)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:31 pm

ITT: Creature is a better IC than he was in wave
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Post Post #568  (isolation #68)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:31 pm

Which makes me think he's town, btw
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Post Post #570  (isolation #69)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:36 pm

It's yours.
It means you're scum.
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Post Post #574  (isolation #70)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:49 pm

Town would know whether it's a mislynch or not. So would scum, but the way you half-heartedly question my motive is concerning.

If you'd read the thread, you'd see which outlies my reason for scumreading you.
Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment so scumhunting isn't a priority for them.
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Post Post #579  (isolation #71)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:26 pm

Id' be willing to townblock with creature, but at this point, only creature.
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Post Post #593  (isolation #72)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:43 pm

welp looks like lynch will happen while i'm at work
still confident in dave lynch atm
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Post Post #596  (isolation #73)  » Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:00 am

I still think this will flip town.
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Post Post #600  (isolation #74)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:42 am

The fact that creature wasn't the nightkill makes him pretty likely to be chosen in my eyes.
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Post Post #603  (isolation #75)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:48 am

There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.

Can you try and figure out what it is?
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Post Post #607  (isolation #76)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:38 am

@creature I doubt scum would townread chosen to the extent Tenshii is. I'm doing a more thorough analysis right now.
What were you trying to get to in ?

@dave :roll:
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Post Post #611  (isolation #77)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:42 am

That checks out, but why did you ask nn and tenshii at the time? If you townread Tenshii enough to trust his reads at that point, what has caused you to change or question your perspective?
I know you townread nn.
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Post Post #617  (isolation #78)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:53 am

Creature was playing town leader briefly, and a lot of the playerlist townreads him. For reference:
Grendel townreads creature.
Hiraki implies he won't be voting creature.
and Shadow townreads creature.
Tenshii townreads creature.
and TTTT implies a townread on Creature.
I townread creature.

Universally townread town are prime candidates for the nightkill, especially if they're capable of co-ordinating town like he did recently near deadline. He's probably their strongest nk at the moment, so the fact that he isn't dead is telling.
The only other way to explain this is if he's scum, in which case I invite you to convince me of that, or that I've missed something about Grendel. Considering town (me) was hardpushing his slot lately, it'd be an easy mislynch to manufacture later on in the game, so I'm not so sure it's such a valid nightkill.

@dave Yeah, I'm scum. Sup.
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Post Post #621  (isolation #79)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:56 am

In post 613, Creature wrote:They were active at the time and they weren't Vedith (who would just say scum).

This also checks out.
In post 614, Tenshii wrote:Creature, Human, TTTT: Why did you all vote for nn30?

His posts read fake as fuck, I discussed this with TTTT briefly before taking a closer look and posting my findings here.

@Dave. Again, I invite you to tell me otherwise.
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Post Post #624  (isolation #80)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:00 pm

VOTE: Dave
Considering how bad his town play was in our micro not too long ago, it's not a stretch to think that his play as scum is truly as transparent and bad as it is here.

@Tenshii That post was my unvote. I was not on the NN lynch wagon.
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Post Post #627  (isolation #81)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:02 pm

I'll be slightly miffed if I'm lynched today, to be honest.
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Post Post #629  (isolation #82)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:05 pm

No, I 'kinda townread' nn at first, 'kinda scumread' nn secondly, then talked to TTTT about how fake his posts look, then voted nn, then unvoted nn when I took a closer look. ISO me.
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Post Post #630  (isolation #83)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:06 pm

In post 265, Human Sequencer wrote:I've gotta agree w/ you there TTTT, I'm still trying to work out whether that's just how nn always posts or whether my lie radar is valid
Haven't gotten around to an nn meta read to verify yet, good to know that somebody else has picked up on it though
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Post Post #635  (isolation #84)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 12:21 pm

Dave was also on that wagon.
Your townread is unfounded.

I could settle for hiraki, but I'd need to take a closer lynch and it would absolutely be a compromise over dave.
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Post Post #645  (isolation #85)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:09 pm

Yes, I'm very interested in your read on Hiraki, Dave.
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Post Post #655  (isolation #86)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:16 pm

Hiraki, what is your read on Dave, and what do you think about Dave's read on you? Does it seem grounded and realistic?
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Post Post #660  (isolation #87)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:24 pm

More likely to come from town than scum, in my opinion.
Do you see anything interesting in it? I don't see it as particularly telling towards scum or town, other than that I feel like scumShadow would probably be more passive and/or hurried/rushed in that context.
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Post Post #663  (isolation #88)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:31 pm

Adachi wrote:
Human wrote:Do you see anything interesting in it? I don't see it as particularly telling towards scum or town, other than that I feel like scumShadow would probably be more passive and/or hurried/rushed in that context.
Is this based off of meta?

I've never played with shadow before, this is based on my understanding of his personality in this game, though, so you could say it's a meta read.
What was the intention of that question?
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Post Post #664  (isolation #89)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:31 pm

hopefully he doesn't get to the point where he's needed all that he's needed to say again

Cheeky. I enjoyed this.
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Post Post #666  (isolation #90)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:33 pm

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Post Post #668  (isolation #91)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:35 pm

Hum.

If either Dave or Hiraki flip scum, the other is a lock lynch to me.

Which is funny, because Dave is a lock lynch to me right now.
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Post Post #670  (isolation #92)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:37 pm

I don't think as it stands the Hiraki wagon is legitimate. I just think a Dave scum flip incriminates Hiraki.
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Post Post #674  (isolation #93)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:41 pm

@Tenshii I'd explain, but you didn't believe me on Creature in wave so I doubt I'd be able to convince you anyway -,-

@Dave Yeah, I was wrong.
@Creature Yeah, I was wrong.
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Post Post #675  (isolation #94)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:42 pm

I'll make a big post about it just like my big 'nn is town' post I made ages ago when the time is right.
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Post Post #676  (isolation #95)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:43 pm

In post 672, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 670, Human Sequencer wrote:I don't think as it stands the Hiraki wagon is legitimate. I just think a Dave scum flip incriminates Hiraki.

Didn't you also think NN being scum meant I would be scum?
Are you just pairing me with people in hopes I eventually get lynched by association?

Actually I take that back, I literally never said that, where did you pull that from.
A misrep and a discredit all in one. Nice.
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Post Post #678  (isolation #96)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:45 pm

I was just joking Tenshii, don't take it to heart.
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Post Post #681  (isolation #97)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:48 pm

Why do you care so much? If I'm just a stupid townie, surely you'd just be able to ignore me and push whoever you think is scum?

There's no town motivation for 680, and the scum motivation is pretty blinding.
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Post Post #683  (isolation #98)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:53 pm

Chosen Townies don't get a role PM saying 'Chosen Townie'. They get a role PM saying 'Townie'.
You just fucked up really bad.

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Post Post #684  (isolation #99)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 1:54 pm

Considering I have to sleep, Dave will probably be powerlynched, I'm now a likely nk and mod is around, I should explain why Dave being scum incriminates Hiraki.
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Post Post #685  (isolation #100)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:08 pm

Hiraki on Dave in
Adachi wrote:Please play the game. This is horrendous play regardless what role you have. The fact that this is UNANIMOUS among all players in the game should say something to you.
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PsychoticDave - Player who is ruining the game by being a baby about the game. This is an OK D1 lynch for all of the wrong reasons. I would really rather a replacement (sorry mod)

Potential scum motivation is in thread coaching to get his scumbuddy to play the damn game instead of being 110% lynchbait, and disregards a lynch on his partner as a lynch for 'all the wrong reasons'. Requests a replacement, because without it Hiraki has very low chances of winning the game without substantial carrying capability. Town motivation exists, but isn't as compelling.


Hiraki keeps his options open. This is a stance scum can easily and flexibly use to change either way depending on how a wagon on their partner goes. scumHiraki in this post is making sure that he can push a Dave wagon if he has to, or he can start townreading Dave if he has to.


Strangely defensive of Dave. Interesting, considering...


Specifically mentions that he'd rather nn gone over Dave, interesting considering he doesn't actually have to justify his vote relative to Dave at all. It implies that Hiraki had motive to vote Dave, despite him generally being against the lynch in his earlier postings ('I don't wanna lynch this because it's bad not scum' is how I read them).


Still refuses to give a concrete read on Dave, other than 'Is bad'. Scum still keeping his options open, because he's entirely aware that a wagon could shift on Dave at any moment because of something stupid Dave might do.

On Dave's side:


Unwarranted townread out of nowhere. Scum motivation is Dave desperately trying to save his partner, who he interprets as being close to being lynched.


Townread is bollocks.

Hiraki's general contempt to Dave's play really makes me feel like he's frustrated at being paired with such a shitty player as scum.
In which case, I'm so sorry you had to be paired with Dave.
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Post Post #688  (isolation #101)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:13 pm

I knew you'd say that.
He's lying. Lynch him.
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Post Post #691  (isolation #102)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:17 pm

Please link me that game off-site.
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Post Post #693  (isolation #103)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:20 pm

I don't really need to say anything else. Dave just claimed scum. Lynch this.
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Post Post #696  (isolation #104)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:26 pm

I knew Dave would respond with 'N-no it was just a gambit g-guys' because that's literally the only out he has at that point.
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Post Post #710  (isolation #105)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:57 am

Dave literally claimed chosen.
Why would Dave do that as town, no matter how silly his methodology is.
'I did it to get a wagon on you' is not an acceptable answer.
How is Dave not lynched yet.
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Post Post #712  (isolation #106)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:06 am

Except he literally claimed chosen and then backpedaled when he realized chosen is not a legitimate role PM.
The backpedal comes from scum who was wrong, not town in any circumstance ever.
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Post Post #713  (isolation #107)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:07 am

If he legitimately believed he was chosen and I was mafia pushing him because he was chosen and that was why he said 'I am a chosen townie', he wouldn't have backpedaled later, because his reasons for believing that would have been amplified, not detracted.
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Post Post #715  (isolation #108)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:13 am

This is when you vote Dave.
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Post Post #717  (isolation #109)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:41 am

TTTT, are you as frustrated as me that nobody is voting Dave? Because I'm pretty damn frustrated.
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Post Post #719  (isolation #110)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:59 am

Dave has two votes, TTTT and I.

It shouldn't matter because he deserves to be hammered anyway.
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Post Post #725  (isolation #111)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:38 pm

Kind of frustrated two whole irl days have passed and Dave hasn't been lynched yet tbh.
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Post Post #729  (isolation #112)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:13 pm

I think that post is incredibly incriminating, and I was waiting for somebody to come out and defend it. The fact that it's you is telling.


The implication behind this post is that Dave was just lying and trying to flip a wagon on me. This is supported by him pushing it further in his followup post, claiming the same strategy worked for him in a different site using the same format that he can't link for some reason. Before this, Dave had -never- mentioned that he so much as suspected he might be chosen townie. Do you really think that's something Dave could keep to himself, considering how horrible his play has been? What about when he had 'nothing more to say'? Isn't that something that might be worth saying?


Here, Dave 'fully believes' he is chosen townie with no doubt in his mind. He is flip flopping. This isn't Dave pushing a consistent belief he's been having for a while-- what town would do. This is Dave coming up with some bullshit explanation to explain his actions in 687.

What out of these two realities seems more realistic to you?
1. Dave is town. Dave spends all game posting nothing of value. As soon as Dave is run up, he claims chosen to try and get Human lynched because he believes Human is scum, even though he knows he may not be chosen. He gambles that the other players won't bother reading into the setup, and instead hopes Human will be flashlynched. He then comes to believe that he is Chosen townie, based on Human pushing him.
2. Dave is scum. Dave gets run up, and then claims chosen because he misunderstands the setup and assumes that Chosen townies get a different role PM. As soon as he is proven wrong, he backs out of it and writes it off as a gambit. He then comes back later saying that he truly does believe he is Chosen, trying to subtly imply that he always thought that and that's why he claimed, even though he heavily backpedaled on the claim before.
That is an open question to everybody in this game except Dave.
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Post Post #730  (isolation #113)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:14 pm

^@Hiraki

I really don't know how you're getting that, Creature. Mind explaining?
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Post Post #731  (isolation #114)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 2:16 pm

You could go for the 'well that's so obvious! there's no way scum would be so obviously scummy!' defense, but this is Dave we're talking about.
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Post Post #741  (isolation #115)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:33 pm

I'll address the arguments that are against lynching him now, but instead of solely killing our best wagon atm, I recommend creating another. Good luck with such an inactive playerlist.
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Post Post #743  (isolation #116)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:31 am

Please note Dave's entire scumread of me consists of him believing my play is bad (lmao) and him believing he is chosen because I'm pushing him. He thinks that makes him chosen, because he thinks I'm scum. He thinks I'm scum because he thinks I'm pushing chosen (him). His basis for thinking he's chosen is because he believes scum is pushing him, namely Human.

Do you see the problem here?

Would you please sum up a more logically consistent reason for scumreading me?
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Post Post #745  (isolation #117)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 7:56 am

You literally asked me what makes you scum. I answered. What's your problem with that post? Why aren't you answering me? I am a pro-town player, sharing what's on my mind and what I believe at that point, trying to get my scumreads lynched. What are you doing?

It reads to me as if you're scared of sharing any more incriminating details. You don't want to have to fabricate any reads, so you've just dismissed the question and hoped that town will take the bait you left in 742, or hoped that I'd just slip up and generate a wagon out of thin air.

@literally anybody else
Could you please ask Dave why he scumreads me? So far, he's only posted what I've already bought to light in 743.
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Post Post #747  (isolation #118)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:07 am

^This reads intentional to me. As if Dave is consciously going for the 'Look at how bad at mafia I am' derpclear.
It's also a convenient way to disregard everything I said in my post. Once again, please elaborate upon your scumread on me, because your reason for believing I am scum and your reason for believing you are chosen is circular. This particular read could very reasonably come from town, and if you elaborate I could easily change my read on you.

Also, if it does come from town, trying to figure it out and post it more eloquently could lead you to thinking it through a little deeper and realizing how it doesn't stand up to logic.

Picking apart somebody's scumread on you is one of the best ways to sort a slot for me, and for that I love interacting with people who scumread me.
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Post Post #748  (isolation #119)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:08 am

The activity in this game is fucking disgusting.
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Post Post #751  (isolation #120)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:54 pm

The Human vs Dave fight basically went down like this:
1. Human starts a wagon and votes Dave for policy.
2. Dave OMGUS's and questions the scumread.
3. Human dodges the question and essentially turns Dave's NAI questioning into a scum post
4. Dave arrives at the logic of being Chosen Townie due to Human's hard arbitrary push
5. Human turns this to a claim and pushes it to oblivion.

No, this is not what happened, please read.
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Post Post #754  (isolation #121)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:02 pm

1. I did not vote Dave for policy. I did not vote Dave because I believe he is anti-town. I voted Dave because I believe his actions were more consistent with 'Bad Scum' rather than 'Bad Town'.
2. ok
3. I did not dodge the question. Dave asked me why I scumread him, considering there was literally fucking nothing in his ISO I decided to use the best evidence I had on hand, the post he literally just made, which bled scum all through the thread. I was also interested to see how Dave interacted with pressure, considering that he had only been voted by A) Shaddowez for the weakest of reasons and left unpressured; B)nn who was a likely lynch at the time and C)Grendel who scumDave could easily nightkill, therefore he didn't have to properly respond to the pressure.
4. Dave did not arrive at that logic. There is two possibilities here. A) Dave as scum misunderstood the setup and claimed scum, later backpedaling. B) Dave as town tried out a gambit to get me flashlynched, later backpedaling. There is no fucking way , and come from a Dave who simply believed he was chosen.
5. It was a claim. Please read.
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Post Post #755  (isolation #122)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:05 pm

Apart from that, there is no fucking way Dave is chosen, considering how blatantly anti-town he has been and considering how few players have picked up on him for that. He is an incredibly easy mislynch.

A list of players who have made a serious push on Dave:
Human Sequencer (town[trust me])
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Post Post #757  (isolation #123)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:16 pm

You already quoted them yourself.

1. and also
3.

Dave is not a good player. Dave is being transparently bad at the game. Instead of being derp lynchbaity town (hurr durr i'm gonna tunnel random people because lol thats my reads) he's been derp lynchbaity scum (lol i'm gonna post fuck all this game, LITERALLY NAKED VOTE A TOWN WAGON ON A SLOT HE HAS NEVER POSTED A READ ON () and take no stances on and of the players in the game).

His actions are more consistent with bad scum rather than bad town.
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Post Post #758  (isolation #124)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:19 pm

4. Dave did not arrive at that logic. There is two possibilities here. A) Dave as scum misunderstood the setup and claimed scum, later backpedaling. B) Dave as town tried out a gambit to get me flashlynched, later backpedaling. There is no fucking way 682, 687 and 689 come from a Dave who simply believed he was chosen.
Nothing to say about this?
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Post Post #760  (isolation #125)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:28 pm

That's a question for tomorrow. I've already posted my thoughts on Hiraki earlier, considering that I might be killed at night, but the more he posts the more pause I get. I'm not so sure Hiraki is a slam-dunk lynch tomorrow, but definitely the best spot to start looking.
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Post Post #761  (isolation #126)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:28 pm

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Post Post #763  (isolation #127)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:43 pm

How people interact with the Dave wagon can change the gamestate. Any other slots people may choose to wagon flip onto can change the gamestate. Interactions between other players can change the gamestate.
Of course, now that you've weaseled this out of me, it makes it a little less helpful to analyze tomorrow because everybody's being a little more self-concious.
There's a lot that can happen overnight. Who is killed changes who my targets are. I'd rather give the game a 100% fresh look tomorrow, as opposed to half-guess with half of the information now. I've already said Hiraki is a good place to start looking, but there's still the fringe case that Dave flips town too.

If that's the case, Tenshii gets massive scumpoints, but I really highly doubt that.
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Post Post #765  (isolation #128)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 2:54 pm

Leading town down a speculation path to bamboozle them on a town flip.
Pretty strong scum motivation, town motivation exists though.

I'd have to do a proper iso read, but it'd be a good place to start looking.
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Post Post #767  (isolation #129)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:07 pm

So I should scumread myself? Lmao.

It's time wasted, it's a clogged thread and demotivated townies who thought they had the game solved only to have it snatched away are a weakness to town, not an asset to town.
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Post Post #781  (isolation #130)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:34 pm

In post 775, PsychoticDave wrote:TvS. Human being the scum.

Also, I like how Human says I can't be Chosen Townie because I'm bad. Like that was a factor in the RNG role assignment.

Yes, this is exactly what I said, thank you.
Dave, your misrepresentation has passed being scummy and has glided straight into just being a regular old asshole.
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Post Post #786  (isolation #131)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:59 am

There is no way Dave's play isn't intentionally horrible here. I literally cannot vote anywhere

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Post Post #788  (isolation #132)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:29 am

I think somebody named Creature is capable of that <3
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Post Post #797  (isolation #133)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:07 pm

For Human Sequencer when he gets home tomorrow:
Wallpost readout Tenshii
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Post Post #830  (isolation #134)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:51 pm

Tenshii townie.
Umlaut, why did you scumread him? PoE alone?
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Post Post #831  (isolation #135)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:53 pm

Umlaut you seem pretty onball, come lynch Dave with me, town has some asinine idea that lynchbait can't be scum for some reason.
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Post Post #836  (isolation #136)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:43 pm

Then there is of course the claim in 682 and the subsequent backtracking, saying he only believes he is chosen. The problem with this is that he tore into Creature early on for claiming to be able to look at the game and make an educated guess as to who is chosen, brushing off the actual reasoning involved. So to then come out and flat-out say "I am absolutely sure I am chosen" is completely inconsistent and I can't understand the town mindset that leads to both those events. But I can definitely understand the scum mindset of "fakeclaim, then backpedal when you're called out on it."

Holy fuck you are the light at the end of the tunnel.

I'm scared you might be buddying up to me, but you quoting my post after taking a stance makes me feel better about that.
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Post Post #846  (isolation #137)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:03 pm

Based on Human's meta they have never been Mafia ever, so not much to go on there.

I fucking know right.
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It's legitimately comical at this point.
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Post Post #848  (isolation #138)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:11 pm

I didn't find anything particularly incriminating in Tenshii's posts. Sell me on it, with post links plz?
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Post Post #852  (isolation #139)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:28 pm

>human
>scum is hiraki-psychoticdave

>umlaut
>scum is hiraki-psychoticdave

>creature
>scum is hiraki-psychoticdave

come on guys if this goes over deadline i'll be seriously peeved off
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Post Post #853  (isolation #140)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:30 pm

In post 487, Grendel wrote:PsychoticDave

My belief is firmly that he is a either mafia, or not a chosen townie. This is stemmed from his poor iso, he can’t be a chosen one if he were making bad posts such as:
Spoiler:
In post 34, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 33, Creature wrote:Don't vote Human, vote Human Sequencer (or maybe HS).

You have the absolutely worst reasoning for putting Human at L-1 on P1.
I'm convinced you're bad scum.


In post 184, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 183, Tenshii wrote:
In post 169, Vedith wrote:Feelbad to those with less posts than mod.

Bwahahahaha.

@Dave why are you scumreading Vedith? If you still are?

@Misa why do you scumread Creature?

I never said I was scumreading Vedith. I just don't like playing with Vedith.


In post 186, PsychoticDave wrote:
In post 185, Tenshii wrote:Then do you have reads?

Alternatively, I don't understand any townreads on Dave.

Nope.


In post 326, PsychoticDave wrote:I've still said all I have to say.
I'm just waiting for the day to end.

He uses the god awful, "Well their either scum or bad town" argument. Voting people just because he doesn't like them. Cutting of discussion -multiple times-.Then he just throws in the towel. The rest of his posts are him repeating how he wants the day to end plus necked votes to show just how "done" he is with this day. Scum would rip him apart for dinner in he were one of the chosen ones. This suggests to me that he is either mafia, or not chosen town since scum are ignoring lynch bait for their preferred, "chosen", targets. Which frankly, is why I think he is the ideal lynch for today.

His behavior also reminds me a lot of a newbie game I was in were my scum buddy acted overtly antitown on D1 in the most ham-fisted way he could muster. He outright refuse to scum hunt, preached about the statistical unlikeness that town lynches scum D1, and the all D1 lynches are basically random. He cruised into lylo by being so vocally unhelpful, and I’m seeing a parallel here with Dave. Dave complains how there is nothing going on, then ironically refuses to add new content to the table, then talks about wanting to end the day.

These things are so unhelpful that town is all writing it off as too brazen to come from scum. When it Is all so over the top that it feels, and looks completely intentional to me!


COME ON GUYS

4 PEOPLE

ONE CONFIRMED TOWN

WE CAN'T ALL BE SCUM
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Post Post #854  (isolation #141)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:31 pm

In post 484, nn30 wrote:@Grendel - I mean, I'm okay with a Dave lynch.

Thing is people are going to read my complying to you as scummy (opportunism! look at that desire to stay alive! must be scum!)

Dunno what to do about it, but here we are. Hopefully my dislike of Dave's posts prior to this speak for themselves.

VOTE: Dave

Why, if I'm your top scum read, are you advocating for me to vote Dave instead? Wouldn't you just want to off me and get it over with?

JUST PUTTIN' THIS HERE
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Post Post #855  (isolation #142)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:34 pm

creature and tenshii, i'm having massive wave flashbacks atm tbh
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Post Post #858  (isolation #143)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:36 pm

In post 833, ChaosOmega wrote:Votecount 2.04

Tenshii (2) - Hiraki, Ümläüt
Human Sequencer (1) - PsychoticDave
PsychoticDave (1) - Human Sequencer
Hiraki (1) - Tenshii

Not Voting (2) - Creature, TTTT

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2017-01-12 11:27:46)

+Umlaut makes Dave on 2/4 atm
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Post Post #861  (isolation #144)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Deadline shouldn't even be in the equation tbh
Games reaching deadline are egh
Games reaching deadline twice are double egh
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Post Post #868  (isolation #145)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:51 pm

TTTT, there is no fucking way Dave is chosen unless you buy into scumHuman.
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Post Post #893  (isolation #146)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:17 am

In post 889, Creature wrote:I think Human and I are Chosen Townies.

VOTE: Hiraki
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Post Post #896  (isolation #147)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:28 am

VOTE: TTTT
literally everybody else is town, i reckon TTTT will come out blazing on me today to secure a chosen mislynch so he can then actually win the game (can't endgame chosen townies)

if you're considering lynching me, i recommend no-lynch instead. it's obvious scum has a tactical reason for not killing anybody (need a chosen lynch) and by voting me you're likely just giving scum exactly what they need

we have one lynch, and then we're in lylo, correct?
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Post Post #898  (isolation #148)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:29 am

i also invite everybody to analyze TTTT-dave interactions during day 2
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Post Post #902  (isolation #149)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:36 am

umlaut you forgot we can cross off creature for our random lynches
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Post Post #905  (isolation #150)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:38 am

^what creature said

anybody hardpushing any other slot is immediately suspicious
now i know i was hardpushing TTTT earlier but w/e, i know he'll come in and do his best to get a lynch on me so whatever, i don't care because when i'm lynched and flip chosen bam powerlynch TTTT tomorrow and win
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Post Post #906  (isolation #151)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:41 am

dave hardpushing me was badScum doing his best to get a chosen lynch off before he dies so that his partner can carry etc etc etc
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Post Post #908  (isolation #152)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:43 am

i'm really quite sure tenshii is town

i'd stay and tell you why but i'm really quite sure i need to sleep
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Post Post #909  (isolation #153)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:45 am

creature rolling chosen was like
insta-death for scum lmao
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Post Post #911  (isolation #154)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:49 am

In post 910, Ümläüt wrote:This bothers me. Is anyone considering lynching Human right now?

TTTT is!

I just know TTTT is scum and know what he'ss planning to do, so I'm pre-emptively shutting it down.
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Post Post #912  (isolation #155)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:51 am

In post 898, Human Sequencer wrote:i also invite everybody to analyze TTTT-dave interactions during day 2
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Post Post #953  (isolation #156)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:47 am

i mean this spec is all pretty well and good (actually really helpful and informative) but on the other hand there's no real reason for it when you could just read everybody in the game who isn't TTTT, realize how town they are, and then realize that we still need one more scum
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Post Post #955  (isolation #157)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:29 am

1. yep

2. nah
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Post Post #975  (isolation #158)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:36 am

In post 973, Tenshii wrote:
In post 970, Ümläüt wrote:Creature and Human are both pretty obvtown so I'm confident that we win by lynching everyone whose name starts ends with T.

FTFY

hilarious post

there won't be a tomorrow
if there is i will eat my hat and then comb over ulmaut and tenshii over the nightphase
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Post Post #995  (isolation #159)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:40 pm

Literally everybody looks town, I really doubt this will be scum.
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Post Post #996  (isolation #160)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:40 pm

town* lmao
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Post Post #1003  (isolation #161)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:04 am

Umlaut HS Creature townblock wrecked this game, which was incredibly unfortunate for scum because the two chosen townies were in the townblock.
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Post Post #1004  (isolation #162)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:09 am

Umlaut, you replacing in was a shining light in the darkness. I'm so glad you came in and proved I wasn't just a raving lunatic.
Creature, Tenshii, how do I look now? :lol:

I'm sorry you got fucked over, TTTT. FWIW, I was townreading you until the last day, and at that point what pulled me over the line was realizing you were the least towniest around and rereading your interactions w/ Dave.

Sorry I fucked you over, Hiraki, I just can't trust you at all when you're using that avatar! :lol:
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Post Post #1005  (isolation #163)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 7:57 am

In post 9, Grendel wrote:I feel really bad for Human rn.

Their like, screaming into the void and nobody is listening.

lmoa
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