In post 89, Creature wrote:If you vote Vedith, you might hammer a chosen townie.
In post 96, Creature wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Vedith turned out to be Chosen Townie given how he suddenly got to L-1.
In post 106, MisaTange wrote:why mention Vedith in particular? nn (the counterwagon) could also be Chosen Townie, and this suggests knowledge of who are Chosen Townies, which mafia only knows.
In post 130, nn30 wrote:Are Transcend & Vedith connected players? I'm in a game with Transcend, who has the same avatar, and it's messing with me.
In post 142, Vedith wrote:So with this setup, you can be sure that scum are going to avoid the same wagon together.
Getting rid of 1 chosen for 1 scum is a decent swap for scum, this is the only reason I can see Human playing the way he is.
In post 251, Human Sequencer wrote:AH FUCK
I HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT DUCKING AVATAR ALL GAME
In post 264, nn30 wrote:Back it up. Link to everything you've just linked to, but this time, with an explanation for why you think I'm acting in each of those particular posts. Then tell me why you think my analysis is superficial. Then tell me how my 'acting posts' aren't just town poking and prodding in the way that I play town and are, in fact, scum motivated. Then tell me how my 'analysis' as you see it is scum motivated. Then we can begin to have a conversation.
In post 363, Creature wrote:Vedith has three (or two?) mislynch options (if neither cw is on his partner) if he's scum.
In post 396, nn30 wrote:2) Because he's refused to say anything at all all day and suddenly he's just fine with lynching me. It's lazy. I want a policy lynch on useless!Dave at the very least but I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum.
In post 406, nn30 wrote:How can you be so sure of that? And even if you're sure, how can you put that into Daves process?
In post 423, nn30 wrote:He got a townie mislynch out of it. He could always defend himself tomorrow.
In post 386, Tenshii wrote:Regarding the townbloc, these are the only flaws I can think of.
Dave can only be scum with nn30.
TTTT can only be scum with Vedith.
Vedith can only be scum with Creature or TTTT.
Creature can be scum with pretty much anybody I think.
In post 468, Grendel wrote:Creature, Human Sequencer, shaddowez, Hiraki, Tenshii, TTTT, PsychoticDave, nn30
I'll back up the above reads with substance tomorrow since I'm going to bed soon.
In post 503, Grendel wrote:TenshiiIn post 53, Tenshii wrote:VOTE: Vedith
L-1. Serious vote. I think his early townreads are there for the sake of buddying and not for the sake of getting information during RVS.
I think that Tenshii was fishing for a lol fake hammer for reactions here? That’s the only logical explanation I chould come up with. Plus his reasoning is completely fallous. Like Vedith wasn’t dropping any town reads before 53.
In post 503, Grendel wrote: I think that it is interesting how he was the founder of the Misa wagon, and at the surprising rate which Misa’s wagon grew. If Misa/TTTT were to flip chosen I wonder what that would make Tenshi (probably scum tbh). Also, I wonder about the plausibility of a TenshixHiraki scum team. For some reason the two really 'click' for me.
 Quickly glancing through his posts I see other instances of questionable logic, but none of the pops out as scum to me. I’m not going to hen peck at his other posts. He actually seems to want to be useful in a way that didn't look faked. Tenshii can have a nice cozy spot on the back burner.
 Oh, but I would like to know Tenshii's thoughts on Dave's flip to nn30, as he seemed to think it implicated bussing on Dave's part. Is Dave scum again Tenshii?
 And if he is would you vote him over nn30?
In post 603, Human Sequencer wrote:There's a reason I think creature is more likely to be chosen than the other players alive.
Can you try and figure out what it is?
In post 621, Human Sequencer wrote:His posts read fake as fuck, I discussed this with TTTT briefly before taking a closer look and posting my findings here. 495
In post 598, ChaosOmega wrote:Votecount 1.13
nn30 (5) - Creature, TTTT, PsychoticDave, Hiraki, Grendel
PsychoticDave (2) - nn30, Human Sequencer
shaddowez (1) - Tenshii
Tenshii (1) - shaddowez
In post 635, Human Sequencer wrote:Dave was also on that wagon.
Your townread is unfounded.
In post 703, Hiraki wrote:Your play is getting worse and worse dude tbh. Do you think the nn30 lynch had no basis to it and that we basically just went on it for no reason?
In post 704, Hiraki wrote:In my first post, I noted that Tenshii is a TR except for the stuff done near the end of my post (so last few real life days of D1). I even stated that 111 is a fantastic post but I don't see how I could have been so nice about my adjective usage. I think I mainly did that for the Misa vote that I don't think many other people agreed on. (n.b. I'm not too sure about this - sorry if I'm just flat-out wrong)
 I don't think this sequence follows pretty well.In post 633, Tenshii wrote:I townread Creature, TTTT, PsychoticDave
 Mind explaining how you have a TR on Dave?In post 343, Tenshii wrote:Holy shit Creature are you ever going to explain any of your reads?
 How do you TR someone that you don't really understand their reads?In post 348, Tenshii wrote:I still feel fine on a TTTT lynch so I'm sticking to it.
 Can you explain these TRs?
In post 624, Human Sequencer wrote:VOTE: Dave
Considering how bad his town play was in our micro not too long ago, it's not a stretch to think that his play as scum is truly as transparent and bad as it is here.
In post 625, PsychoticDave wrote:P-EDIT: Human now votes me for being bad.
Guess I'll do the same.
VOTE: Human Sequencer
In post 680, PsychoticDave wrote:So...
@Human: What makes me so scummy? Why am I scum?
In post 681, Human Sequencer wrote:Why do you care so much? If I'm just a stupid townie, surely you'd just be able to ignore me and push whoever you think is scum?
There's no town motivation for 680, and the scum motivation is pretty blinding.
In post 682, PsychoticDave wrote:Actually, I'm a Chosen Townie.
You've been constantly pushing for my lynch for no reason.
Obviously, you're scum and know who the Chosen Townies are and you thought today would be a good day to try to mislynch one.
In post 683, Human Sequencer wrote:Chosen Townies don't get a role PM saying 'Chosen Townie'. They get a role PM saying 'Townie'.
You just fucked up really bad.
So, this is a slam-dunk lynch now, right guys?
In post 754, Human Sequencer wrote:1. I did not vote Dave for policy. I did not vote Dave because I believe he is anti-town. I voted Dave because I believe his actions were more consistent with 'Bad Scum' rather than 'Bad Town'.
In post 754, Human Sequencer wrote:3. I did not dodge the question. Dave asked me why I scumread him, considering there was literally fucking nothing in his ISO I decided to use the best evidence I had on hand, the post he literally just made, which bled scum all through the thread.
In post 760, Human Sequencer wrote:That's a question for tomorrow.
In post 777, Hiraki wrote:Do you think this is a fair tell for someone who plays like Dave?
In post 777, Hiraki wrote:Yeah? Do you think that:
A) A Vedith/Grendel lynch was even remotely possible
B) If the answer to A is yes, that TTTT actually stopped it?
Additionally, do you have any reason for scumreading / not townreading me? Or is it really based off of process of elimination?
In post 786, Human Sequencer wrote:@Hiraki/Tenshii
I'm against discussing who should be lynched if Dave flips scum (I only got my read on Hiraki out earlier in case of nightkill) because then town gets bamboozled and confused if he flips town.
In post 790, Hiraki wrote:I'm definitely OK with my vote if your vote is based on process of elimination.
In post 791, PsychoticDave wrote:I really feel like Hiraki vs Tenshii is TvT.
In post 796, Ümläüt wrote:Most likely there is one mafioso on the nn30 wagon, and one off.
In post 814, TTTT wrote:I think his reason for TRing me is a stretch
why wouldn't scum!TTTT try to move the wagon off Vedith?
don't think that makes me town anymore than asking questions does
In post 900, Ümläüt wrote:Assuming they keep this up, we have two more lynches to go. We need to either hit Mafia (2/5 chance with random lynch), or two non-chosen townies (1/10 chance with random lynch).
In post 985, Ümläüt wrote:Human is pretty clearly town. Their push on Dave was way beyond what was necessary for distancing. They pointed out his impossible claim before anyone else, where scum would probably have tried to coach with something like "What makes you so sure you're chosen?"
I think I'm pretty clearly town as well, for turning said push from "Human screaming at the town while they're busy wagoning Hiraki" into something that actually went to lynch.
In post 987, Ümläüt wrote:Everyone knows Creature is town. Look at his activity level, look at his game-solving efforts, look at how Dave went out of his way to push on him in the early game.
Why, what do you think of Creature?