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Post Post #9  (isolation #0)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:15 am

Getting the ic power is actually pretty unlucky - one of the weaker ones I think

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Post Post #10  (isolation #1)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:16 am

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Post Post #11  (isolation #2)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 2:34 am

I've played this setup before and the scum team chose no powers and town got bodyguard and tracker and lost





good thing I wasn't town

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Post Post #14  (isolation #3)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:26 am

VOTE: MariaR

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Post Post #43  (isolation #4)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:01 pm

Don't know of a favorite open setup, though I've come to dislike double scum setups. I think I'm 4 for 4 getting nightkilled as third party/scum in those

For roles... I'd like to be an innocent child once, but the type that gets to choose when they reveal, or one that reveals late. Getting revealed at the start is pretty lame and kind of drives people to not contribute

Town or Scum... I dunno. I always feel like I play really well as scum but as town it's fun to find someone I connect with and figure out that they're town

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Post Post #46  (isolation #5)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:44 pm

Like mariaR :)

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Post Post #47  (isolation #6)  » Thu Dec 22, 2016 7:44 pm

Guess it's a shame about this game, though

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Post Post #53  (isolation #7)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:40 am

Hopefully this game is just slow because of the holidays.

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Post Post #54  (isolation #8)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:41 am

In post 49, Realeo wrote:
In post 8, ThinkBig wrote:VOTE: Real


Wut? Me and my slot lynch you.


What is this?

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Post Post #58  (isolation #9)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:07 am

Alright. Let's hear it.

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Post Post #60  (isolation #10)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:09 am

The basis behind that gross accusation. Cite your sources.

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Post Post #63  (isolation #11)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:18 am

VOTE: Realeo

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Post Post #66  (isolation #12)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:22 am

I'm serious right now

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Post Post #69  (isolation #13)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:24 am

Yeah, #8 was a pretty good post I guess



I'm assuming it's because he started random question phase? Why do you feel that is a town action?

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Post Post #71  (isolation #14)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:31 am

Disagree.

I know for me the desire to get a game started is something I have as either alignment. RQS is pretty NULL

As it stands, I don't have an opinion on thinkbig.

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Post Post #73  (isolation #15)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:36 am

No, get out of here with that. False. He could have done anything he wanted or nothing at all and there's nothing in his iso even talking about the SuperHans wagon... that's something you fabricated on your own

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Post Post #75  (isolation #16)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:40 am

You fabricated that option. You're acting like it's either or between the two. I'm borderline arguing semantics here but you realize he was in no way limited in what he could do, right?

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Post Post #77  (isolation #17)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:44 am

There's infinite options. In fact he didn't need to start up conversation at all. You're playing dumb or I'm overestimating you

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Post Post #80  (isolation #18)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:54 am

You're acting like the only things he coul dpossibly talk about are RQS and accusing the wagon (a scenario you made up)

You can't be that dense

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Post Post #82  (isolation #19)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:57 am

Gamma it almost sounds like you're buying into this.

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Post Post #84  (isolation #20)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:58 am

In post 70, Realeo wrote:If it was RQS from the get go, I will discard it. However, we are RVS at the beginning, not RQS. The option to initiate RQS after RVS is interesting. I see that as a good intention, especially the question is mafia related.


This isn't real gamesolving, and actually hurts the town rather than help it.

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Post Post #88  (isolation #21)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:11 am

I'm just a mad person it would seem

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Post Post #89  (isolation #22)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:11 am

In post 87, Realeo wrote:I found it interesting that you actually rebuttal my read instead of "stahp" of "You're an idiot"


Translation: It's interesting that I engaged your points instead of just denying everything

Yeah I'm trying to move away from that.

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Post Post #91  (isolation #23)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:19 am

Are you implying something?

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Post Post #92  (isolation #24)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:20 am

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Post Post #95  (isolation #25)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:26 am

In post 93, Realeo wrote:trying to pocket me


Yeah definitely trying to pocket you, that's what happened in that exchange.

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Post Post #97  (isolation #26)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:29 am

In post 94, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want to trap people with a certain post, see if anyone tries to pull shit on me


is it this one where you randomly announce that before anyone's done it?

Because that doesn't help you trap anyone. It's fishing for town cred.

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Post Post #98  (isolation #27)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:29 am

No seriously Realeo - where am I pocketing you? How?

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Post Post #100  (isolation #28)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:37 am

ok. Now unvote me.

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Post Post #102  (isolation #29)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:41 am

It's about intent. Get off of me. I'm not getting lynched. Vote Gamma.

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Post Post #103  (isolation #30)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:42 am

Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4

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Post Post #106  (isolation #31)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 6:03 am

This is why you set yourself to offline when signing in.

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Post Post #135  (isolation #32)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:08 pm

In post 117, Superhans wrote:@Dunnstral,
Why are you voting Gamma?
Would you want to convince other players to do the same?


He's not engaging in anything while being here, very odd for him.


MARIA is also trying to be as scummy as possible it would seem

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Post Post #137  (isolation #33)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:15 pm

In post 130, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 102, Dunnstral wrote:It's about intent. Get off of me. I'm not getting lynched. Vote Gamma.


In post 103, Dunnstral wrote:Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4


I find these two posts to be an over reaction and I'm not liking post 103.


To play devil's advocate for myself, not sure why I'd make such a big deal of it as scum

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Post Post #138  (isolation #34)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:16 pm

In post 126, MariaR wrote:Because it's random voting stage and almost every vote there is random I think a few of the questions you asked are blatantly obv questions with obv answers and some seem to have a spin on them I dislike


Why don't you explain this spin that you dislike

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Post Post #141  (isolation #35)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:30 pm

davesaz scummy

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Post Post #146  (isolation #36)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:53 pm

In post 100, Dunnstral wrote:ok. Now unvote me.

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Post Post #148  (isolation #37)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:57 pm

Your million word analysis tools are welcome in this thread

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Post Post #150  (isolation #38)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 3:59 pm

I don't mind if maria dies one way or another

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Post Post #153  (isolation #39)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:01 pm

In post 149, MariaR wrote:
In post 148, Dunnstral wrote:Your million word analysis tools are welcome in this thread

I'm not answering your question btw

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Post Post #157  (isolation #40)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:03 pm

In post 155, MariaR wrote:Oh no I'm found scum in 155 posts
...so scary


Do it. I dare you.

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Post Post #160  (isolation #41)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:07 pm

In post 155, MariaR wrote:Oh no I'm found scum in 155 posts
...so scary


Explain this

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Post Post #164  (isolation #42)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:10 pm

Oh

I incorrectly read that as "I found scum"

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Post Post #179  (isolation #43)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:59 pm

In post 177, Realeo wrote:Fun fact : I have been faking vi-ness


keep telling yourself that

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Post Post #182  (isolation #44)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:07 pm

Because I said so

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Post Post #190  (isolation #45)  » Fri Dec 23, 2016 11:56 pm

intent to hammer

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Post Post #200  (isolation #46)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:10 am

I don't want to lynch Realeo

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Post Post #202  (isolation #47)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:08 am

VOTE: Secret Agent Jin

This guys really scummy

Gamma still scummy

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Post Post #204  (isolation #48)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:53 am

Yeah we can do this lynch

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Post Post #224  (isolation #49)  » Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:51 pm

mafia traitor is bulletproof btw so they wouldn't even die

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Post Post #244  (isolation #50)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:25 pm

Bodyguard is close enough to doctor that that's what I'd take it as, by the way

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Post Post #250  (isolation #51)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:56 pm

You don't seem to think anything is something to dwell over

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Post Post #254  (isolation #52)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 5:05 pm

In post 94, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want to trap people with a certain post, see if anyone tries to pull shit on me


Not as funny as this one was

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Post Post #257  (isolation #53)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:34 pm

In post 255, Gamma Emerald wrote:Remember MeowMix pushing me for being aloof about my lynch?


No. Are you sure you're in the right game?

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Post Post #259  (isolation #54)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:40 pm

Oh yea, that game.




No. Not sure what you're talking about

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Post Post #261  (isolation #55)  » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:11 pm

:(

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Post Post #306  (isolation #56)  » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:18 pm

In post 283, Superhans wrote:Dunnstral is scummy.


Want to back this egregious accusation up with some facts?

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Post Post #307  (isolation #57)  » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:19 pm

In post 293, Superhans wrote:^Ah i messed up, Dunnstral doesn't vote Dave, but calls him scummy with no explanation,
Change question to:
@Dunnstral why did you scum read Dave?


Because he made a scummy post.

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Post Post #309  (isolation #58)  » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:23 pm

In post 139, davesaz wrote:
In post 137, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 130, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 102, Dunnstral wrote:It's about intent. Get off of me. I'm not getting lynched. Vote Gamma.


In post 103, Dunnstral wrote:Next thing you know I'll be l-5 followed by l-4


I find these two posts to be an over reaction and I'm not liking post 103.


To play devil's advocate for myself, not sure why I'd make such a big deal of it as scum

In order to wifom once people call you on it.

In post 140, davesaz wrote:
In post 136, Superhans wrote:
In post 135, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 117, Superhans wrote:@Dunnstral,
Why are you voting Gamma?
Would you want to convince other players to do the same?


He's not engaging in anything while being here, very odd for him.


MARIA is also trying to be as scummy as possible it would seem


I can get behind a pressure wagon.
VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Pressure is more useful if the target doesn't know you're voting merely for pressure.
Also note to myself to see if the quoted post becomes relevant later.


These ones. I thought they were scummy at the time. I didin't vote you and you can stop acting like you didn't do anything

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Post Post #313  (isolation #59)  » Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:30 pm

They're scummy because I felt like they were. If I wanted to make a case it wouldn't be off of those two posts.

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Post Post #317  (isolation #60)  » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:56 am

I said his post was scummy, I didn't say we should vote him.

139 is scummy because he says I'd be wifoming something that seems dumb to say that about

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Post Post #321  (isolation #61)  » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:07 am

ok


I disagree, and I'd say I know better because I'm me

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Post Post #322  (isolation #62)  » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:11 am

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #367  (isolation #63)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 7:07 am

Hold up - Ah is towny, what is this backlash?
I'll go into detail and break down what I see in the morning

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Post Post #384  (isolation #64)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:21 pm

In post 382, Antihuman wrote:I do admit my case on TB may have been a bit overblown


uh, don't?

Your case was fine, pushing someone is fine, compared to street fighter I think you're already quite a bit different though I don't know if that's a good indication?


Regardless, people jumping on you for pushing thinkbig are scummy. Not even in a defend partner kind of way because yeah it's possible he's town anyway - they could be "white knighting" except if you die and flip town people go after TB

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Post Post #385  (isolation #65)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:22 pm

In post 371, grapes wrote:Antihuman ( 4 ) - (Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)


ssbm and Desperado stand out to me as scummy on your wagon.

VOTE: Desperado

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Post Post #387  (isolation #66)  » Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:41 pm

What about you?

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Post Post #397  (isolation #67)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:02 am

In post 389, Desperado wrote:Why are you convinced there's scum on a four man wagon on a town lean?


But I explained it...

Antihuman wrote:^this is a good observation. I'm not exactly sure what's the basis for Dunn's townread on me, apart from the fact he does townread me.


But I explained this too

zzz

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Post Post #400  (isolation #68)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:05 am

neither would I, not sure why you quoted it :)

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Post Post #402  (isolation #69)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:06 am

I guess I wavered a bit but you're quite different from when you were scum in street fighter - also, I liked your push. I don't know why people think it's scummy to "go hard" as soon as you replace in

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Post Post #403  (isolation #70)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:07 am

Desperado seems eager to butt heads with me after I voted him

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Post Post #410  (isolation #71)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:18 am

I don't think he ever suggested they're all scum together.

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Post Post #412  (isolation #72)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:18 am

Also why are you trying to push it that one of AH/TB has to be scum?

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Post Post #417  (isolation #73)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:23 am

In post 415, Realeo wrote:@Desperado: Now that I remember that you're replacement slot, I'm cool with you.


Why does that matter?

Realeo wrote:
In post 412, Dunnstral wrote:Also why are you trying to push it that one of AH/TB has to be scum?


:?:


Are you not?

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Post Post #420  (isolation #74)  » Fri Dec 30, 2016 3:39 am

In post 385, Dunnstral wrote:ssbm and Desperado stand out to me as scummy on your wagon.

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Post Post #486  (isolation #75)  » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 476, Realeo wrote:
In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor


Desperado obv Traitor, maybe...

But Desperado + MariaR -> traitor... I don'k think so.



What are you talking about

What does MariaR have to do with it

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Post Post #493  (isolation #76)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:28 am

In post 492, Alisae wrote:Dunn - I can't read this shit. Gun to my head town?


First things first: I'm voting desperado and if your theory has any validity and he's the traitor I'd have caught on as scum and not been voting him. Granted, I don't know much of your theory anyway.

Second: You realize scum can recruit their traitor: in 491 it seems like you're assuming there's a traitor for sure. Why is that?

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Post Post #494  (isolation #77)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:28 am

In post 492, Alisae wrote:Kop - Town
Genuinely evaluating game


Huh?

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Post Post #495  (isolation #78)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:29 am

I guess kop looks better than I thought so nvm that - I thought he was just lurking on the side of discussion

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Post Post #517  (isolation #79)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:21 pm

In post 514, Desperado wrote:@ Dunnstral: What do you make of ThinkBig leaving the AH wagon to vote you despite a reads list that has Antihuman as his biggest scumread?


@TB why are you voting me instead of AH

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Post Post #519  (isolation #80)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:23 pm

That doesn't explain why if you think ah is scummier than me, and he has more votes, you'd jump off to vote me by yourself

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Post Post #521  (isolation #81)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:26 pm

OK

So why aren't you voting AH who has 3 votes, and instead voting me who only has yours

What are you trying to do

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Post Post #525  (isolation #82)  » Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:35 pm

What questions

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Post Post #541  (isolation #83)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:50 am

In post 526, ThinkBig wrote:I'd also like to know why you were quick to defend AH despite his fast moving wagon.


There's no despite - I was "quick" to defend (it happened like 18 hours after the fact or something) because of his fast moving wagon

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Post Post #542  (isolation #84)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:51 am

In post 526, ThinkBig wrote:This question

In post 518, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 517, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 514, Desperado wrote:@ Dunnstral: What do you make of ThinkBig leaving the AH wagon to vote you despite a reads list that has Antihuman as his biggest scumread?


@TB why are you voting me instead of AH


As I explained above. You were buddying him in an anti-town way and anti-town feel. Do you still think AH is town? If so, why?


Stop feigning ignorance.

I'd also like to know why you were quick to defend AH despite his fast moving wagon.


I already explained: he doesn't feel like he did in a game where he was scum. Completely different. I know that's not solid but aside from that I liked his push (even if it was "overblown") and aside from that see no reason to want him to be the lynch.

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Post Post #543  (isolation #85)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:54 am

In post 537, Antihuman wrote:meh, forced jokes like this are more likely to come from scum in my experience


for math jokes graphing is where I draw the line

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Post Post #544  (isolation #86)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:54 am

In post 537, Antihuman wrote:We need to consolidate wagons.


Seems a bit early to be in a rush about that, though

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Post Post #545  (isolation #87)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:56 am

By the way I don't really buy the traitor crumb theory

at the very least it's a bit of a stretch

I'm voting desperado regardless

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Post Post #546  (isolation #88)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:57 am

I'll note that last game of this type I was traitor and I was the first to call someone out on crumbing traitor

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Post Post #548  (isolation #89)  » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:00 am

2 days 17 hours

Wow I definitely thought we had more time, though.

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Post Post #599  (isolation #90)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:56 pm

In post 570, ThinkBig wrote:
Revised Read List


Algebra - Confirmed town. I so wish he would contribute to the game and be more active. There's no way I'd be TRing him if he wasn't the IC.

Alisae - By far my biggest town read. He shows genuine interest in the game and shows genuine scum hunting.

Superhans - Town lean. I disagree with his logic, but I understand where he is coming from

ssbm_Kyouko - Null town.

Davesaz - Null town.

Kop - Null

Gamma - Null

Desperado - Null, leans scum. I don't really buy the traitor theory nor do I buy the logic behind it.

Realeao - Scum lean. 561 screams opportunistic and sheeping. I also don't like how he is constantly flipping his reads and can't seem to make up his mind.

Antihuman - Continuing to throw shades and continuing


Where did I go

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Post Post #600  (isolation #91)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:56 pm

In post 582, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 577, Antihuman wrote:@TB you also left out Dunnstral from your list again, wtf is up with that?


:facepalm: on my part. I just copied and pasted the last read list.


ok

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Post Post #602  (isolation #92)  » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:58 pm

In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.


Can you point out where he's linking tb and alisae?

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Post Post #673  (isolation #93)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:00 pm

I'm here for deadline

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Post Post #675  (isolation #94)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:00 pm

well, in a few minutes

Anything important?

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Post Post #678  (isolation #95)  » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:03 pm

In post 676, Gamma Emerald wrote:Anything I need to know?


we caught your buddies and you're next

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Post Post #719  (isolation #96)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:30 am

In post 718, Gamma Emerald wrote:Mmm not quite yet


Pardon?

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Post Post #720  (isolation #97)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:32 am

So tb is likely town because the traitor would know who the scum team is and he went rather hard - unless he was bussing but that's pretty risky

Who were the ones saying desperado was a traitor again?

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Post Post #722  (isolation #98)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:35 am

In post 537, Antihuman wrote:
In post 476, Realeo wrote:
In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor


Desperado obv Traitor, maybe...

But Desperado + MariaR -> traitor... I don'k think so.


What makes you think Desperado may be the traitor? And why do you say Maria's unlikely to be one?

Imo this:

In post 155, MariaR wrote:Oh no I'm found scum in 155 posts
...so scary


In conjunction with this:

In post 246, MariaR wrote:Crumbing roles are something I expect scum to do more then town


Looks pretty interesting, wouldn't you say?



In post 388, Antihuman wrote:
In post 369, Desperado wrote:
In post 361, Realeo wrote:My current stand is that Antihuman is like Superhans, awkward. Awkwardness is not explicitly a tell. =/


We're reading Antihuman completely differently. I see confidence where it doesn't belong, not awkwardness.


What's your basis for judging the proper level of my self-confidence? We don't have history together.



In post 395, Antihuman wrote:
In post 393, Desperado wrote:What was scumThink doing with the RQS? You dismiss it as useless RQS bullshit, which is something I don't understand.


Apparently it's something he does every game so whatever


These are interactions with desperado

I'll need to look to see if desperado was close to lynch when AH was making that connection

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Post Post #723  (isolation #99)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:38 am

In post 512, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 008

Antihuman ( 3 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)
Desperado ( 2 ) - (Dunnstral, Alisae)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)
Gamma Emerald ( 1 ) - (Realeo)
Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) - (davesaz)
ThinkBig ( 1 ) - (Antihuman)
Dunnstral ( 1 ) - (ThinkBig)

Not Voting ( 2 ) - (Superhans, Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.


This was the last vc (+1 vote on tb)

Antihuman is leading with 3/7, desperado and tb have 2


At the same time votes are all over the place

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Post Post #724  (isolation #100)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:38 am

ok

I'm willing to lynch not Desperado

VOTE: Realeo

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Post Post #725  (isolation #101)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:44 am

In post 715, grapes wrote:Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)



@Alisae what do you think of this?

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Post Post #730  (isolation #102)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:59 am

In post 728, Alisae wrote:Algebra is on point with his shit.

Also AH's push on TB is making me think that it's scum theatre.


Hmm

If you think that (the first part) then don't you think scum could have easily killed Algebra? Him being IC and all, him dying wouldn't necessarily put suspicion on realeo. Whereas algebra may vote realeo again. What are your thoughts on that?

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Post Post #733  (isolation #103)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:02 am

And what looks like theatre to you

Alisae wrote:
In post 13, ReubenWasFine wrote:VOTE: MariaR

obvscum to me if you want to live
Cool RVS vote.


Oh right, that was AH slot as well and Desperado's slot

That kind of looks bad for them?


Realeo wrote:And why the hell SSBM_Kyouko is killed?


Why don't you tell us? (This isn't me snarkily saying you're scum)

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Post Post #735  (isolation #104)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:03 am

In post 732, Alisae wrote:
In post 730, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 728, Alisae wrote:Algebra is on point with his shit.

Also AH's push on TB is making me think that it's scum theatre.


Hmm

If you think that (the first part) then don't you think scum could have easily killed Algebra? Him being IC and all, him dying wouldn't necessarily put suspicion on realeo. Whereas algebra may vote realeo again. What are your thoughts on that?
With a very obvious NK? I think it puts a lot of sus on Realeo. NKA + VCA.


But he's the IC

So he's the obvious kill

And if people say "why was Algebra killed" the answer can be "Because he's the IC"

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Post Post #736  (isolation #105)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:03 am

UNVOTE: Realeo

Kind of been arguing against this

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Post Post #738  (isolation #106)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:05 am

I don't understand why that would explain anything

AntiHuman flipping mafia traitor shouldn't influence the kill onto ssbm?


If you bring something up, then yes I'll "help you analyze"

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Post Post #744  (isolation #107)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:08 am

In post 740, Alisae wrote:Dunn that's dirty :P


:?:

In post 742, Alisae wrote:Eww a face-value answer.


I don't know why you'd expect some wifom paranoi thing

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Post Post #747  (isolation #108)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:10 am

I don't understand the second part

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Post Post #749  (isolation #109)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:12 am

In post 436, Gamma Emerald wrote:tbh I agree that Real feels scummy. The strange equating of TB and AH suggests scum trying to fake associations.

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Post Post #754  (isolation #110)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:20 am

In post 751, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 726, Realeo wrote:Hello. That was a lot of fun.

What's up with this?
In post 740, Alisae wrote:Dunn that's dirty :P

And You wanna know why AH's push on TB seems like theatre to me? Ok. I wanna wait till everyone talks a bit until I go over this mad science. Also I need more time to study AH. I'm just gonna leave this here
β€œAll warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

"Pretend inferiority and encourage your enemy's arrogance. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush them"
― Sun Tzu

Along with the words: Metal Sonic

I don't see how the RVS vote looks like theatre.
I'm going to formally request you shut the fuck up now.


:?:

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Post Post #756  (isolation #111)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:26 am

In post 752, Alisae wrote:Alright Dunn, let me explain.

Say if the NK were to be Algebra.
VCA would tell us that Alegbra was ontop of Realeo since
That's a long time Dunn.
Like, 2+ weeks ago.
I feel like if there were to be a Statue of Limitations, people would have forgotten that Algebra voted Realeo super early.
Algebra was the main person that was putting pressure on Realeo.
So NKA would make the NK directed to him really obvious.


I guess it makes sense. Though there's ~other reasons~ ssbm could have been killed as well

I'll think about it I guess

The easiest explanation is just that Algebra isn't doing much so scum killed ssbm for some other reason and ignored Algebra

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Post Post #757  (isolation #112)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:33 am

I think you're overselling your case Alisae; I don't think people would put much stock/thought into Algebra's reads

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Post Post #797  (isolation #113)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:44 pm

In post 796, Superhans wrote:@Dunnstral
In post 736, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: Realeo

Kind of been arguing against this

What does this mean?

Also, has your scum-read on Davesaz changed since early game?



Maybe read the surrounding posts and the context? There's nothing for me to explain there.

Also, stop acting like I ever had a real read on davesaz. I said one thing he did was scummy

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Post Post #798  (isolation #114)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:45 pm

In post 789, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 786, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 784, Gamma Emerald wrote:EEEEWWW WHY WOULD YOU THINK SCUM IS BUDDYING EACH OTHER


This was before AH flipped traitor.

No, the issue is you thinking Dunn was buddying his scummate. Looks like faked reads, and upon your scumflip it pretty much confirms Dunnstral as town.


So if he flips town are you going to try to lynch me next?

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Post Post #802  (isolation #115)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:09 pm

In post 787, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think TB's reads are most indicative of Scum!TB
VOTE: ThinkBig


And your thoughts on Ah's push?

Superhans wrote:townreading Desperado hard


Why

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Post Post #803  (isolation #116)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:10 pm

In post 800, Superhans wrote:@Dunns wouldn't it be so much easier if you could just answer my question without being so contrary.

I didnt understand what you meant.

Also im just asking what you read on Dave was. Your initial read was (imho) a wasteman read, and i think its not unreasonable to see whether your read has changed.


I don't know if you asked why I unvoted or where I was argueing against it. The answer to both is in my posting leading up to that from day start

I don't have much of a read on dave

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Post Post #804  (isolation #117)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:11 pm

I don't know why people think Ah was bussing TB?

I thought he had good points there and went hard and I wouldn't be surprised if it had led to TB'S lynch. Though I still don't understand why everyone turned on AH

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Post Post #805  (isolation #118)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:11 pm

In post 801, Superhans wrote:townreading Desperado hard


Does this follow the same line of thought I did or is it "well he's not the traitor"

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Post Post #827  (isolation #119)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:33 pm

In post 820, Desperado wrote:Ya, interested to see how the three non voters fall on this.



I don't see myself voting TB today.

We'll see about gamma

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Post Post #846  (isolation #120)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:28 am

In post 842, Superhans wrote:
In post 827, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 820, Desperado wrote:Ya, interested to see how the three non voters fall on this.



I don't see myself voting TB today.

We'll see about gamma

Can u elaborate plz


I do not want to lynch the user known as thinkbig.

I have not reached a conclusion on whether I will be voting gamma in this day phase

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Post Post #847  (isolation #121)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:31 am

In post 843, Superhans wrote:K I rechecked SSBM ISO, her last vote was on Kop not Gamma, but regardless she was pushing Gamma late D1


When was ssbm pushing gamma?

If this is true then with gamma's push on other people and asking about the kill early looks pretty bad

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Post Post #852  (isolation #122)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:49 am

But I already did - I didn't just say that out of nowhere. It would help if you actually read my posts instead of latching on to things and asking me to essentially repeat myself

I don't think AH would be bussing

We can lynch Gamma off of that nightkill stuff after seeing that and him coming in and doing the scummy

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

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Post Post #865  (isolation #123)  » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:31 pm

That vote by davesaz is scummy.

Gamma being on the wagon is scummy. Wasn't he pushing someone else?

We're not lynching townbig


I'd be willing to vote for dave just based on that vote

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Post Post #892  (isolation #124)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:43 pm

UNVOTE:

So why are you parked on TB?

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Post Post #893  (isolation #125)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:43 pm

In post 891, Alisae wrote:I don't believe your claim. Sorry Gamma.


Are you counter claiming?

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Post Post #906  (isolation #126)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:11 pm

TB is town

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Post Post #907  (isolation #127)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:11 pm

VOTE: Alisae

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Post Post #910  (isolation #128)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:13 pm

You're welcome to read over the parts where I've answered that

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Post Post #911  (isolation #129)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:13 pm

The tb part


I don't like Alisae in light of Gamma's reveal.

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Post Post #912  (isolation #130)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:14 pm

In post 896, Alisae wrote:No I'm not counterclaiming otherwise I would have hammered.


When could you have hammered gamma?

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Post Post #914  (isolation #131)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:16 pm

You've been pushing Realeo

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Post Post #915  (isolation #132)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:16 pm

In post 913, Alisae wrote:pedit: right after he claimed.


There's a vote could 3 posts above that - he was at l-2

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Post Post #920  (isolation #133)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:27 pm

In post 916, Desperado wrote:
In post 910, Dunnstral wrote:You're welcome to read over the parts where I've answered that


Now I'm confused. You thought TB was town but you voted him to...? And you unvoted after he claimed VT because....?

??


You're confused because I've been voting gamma and saying TB is town all day

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Post Post #921  (isolation #134)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:28 pm

In post 917, Alisae wrote:I was but then stopped and pushed TB dunn.


You joined the wagon when realeo wasn't taking off

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Post Post #923  (isolation #135)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:38 pm

realeo and TB are both likely town.

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Post Post #925  (isolation #136)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:01 pm

I don't think that's correct.... I think it just doesn't catch the traitor (which is dead)

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Post Post #929  (isolation #137)  » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:46 pm

Wait, so goon cop gets a "not goon" result on:

Bulletproof
Role Cop
Jack of All Trades

?

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Post Post #935  (isolation #138)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:46 am

You or Kop

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Post Post #941  (isolation #139)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:26 pm

In post 932, grapes wrote:10 days, 4 hours, 57 minutes remain until deadline.


??

There was like 13 days left when you claimed?

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Post Post #969  (isolation #140)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:44 pm

Somebody want to walk me through how tb is scum as opposed to "bad town" when AH went on him hard for his lynch?

Am I alone on alisae because people would rather get tb or does everyone townread him?

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Post Post #975  (isolation #141)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:14 pm

In post 971, Superhans wrote:
In post 969, Dunnstral wrote:Somebody want to walk me through how tb is scum as opposed to "bad town" when AH went on him hard for his lynch?

Am I alone on alisae because people would rather get tb or does everyone townread him?

Convince me to vote Alisae.


realeo has a less than average chance to be scum because of a goon cop result

gamma claimed goon cop

I think thinkbig is town

Alisae's pushed only town or likely town in my eyes.

Game's dead because scum are content to lynch tb.

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Post Post #979  (isolation #142)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:11 pm

In post 977, Superhans wrote:however, why do you disagree with the brilliant logic Desperado proposes?


Because I don't think AH would have been bussing like that. I think he pushed a towny.

If he had succeeded in his push scum would not have aimed for him with the night kill, either

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Post Post #981  (isolation #143)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:57 pm

Why do you think him pushing tb means bussing and not trying to get a counterwagon going?

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Post Post #985  (isolation #144)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:11 pm

In post 983, Desperado wrote:AH admitted that he didn't believe in the wagon to start.


HE WAS SCUM

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Post Post #986  (isolation #145)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:13 pm

In post 983, Desperado wrote:Derailing a wagon on town by pushing one of your informed scum partners and then backing off of them is...literally classic scum play.


He backed off because he got massive heat for it

like 4-5 votes on him

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Post Post #1003  (isolation #146)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:39 pm

In post 994, Superhans wrote:
In post 975, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 971, Superhans wrote:
In post 969, Dunnstral wrote:Somebody want to walk me through how tb is scum as opposed to "bad town" when AH went on him hard for his lynch?

Am I alone on alisae because people would rather get tb or does everyone townread him?

Convince me to vote Alisae.


realeo has a less than average chance to be scum because of a goon cop result

gamma claimed goon cop

I think thinkbig is town

Alisae's pushed only town or likely town in my eyes.

Game's dead because scum are content to lynch tb.


Alisae has voted for these players:

ThinkBig is town
Realo is town
Kop is town
Desperado is town

Although I guess he didn't really push Deperado that hard. Do you town read all of these players?


You're twisting what I said.
Or what I meant at least

You should know I wasn't talking about kop or desperado there. I think I had reason to tr desperado, too

Definitely wasn't talkinga bout kop

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Post Post #1004  (isolation #147)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:39 pm

In post 1000, Alisae wrote:I was trying to make Superhans feel like he fakehammered.


Why?

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Post Post #1005  (isolation #148)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:40 pm

In post 988, Desperado wrote:
In post 985, Dunnstral wrote:HE WAS SCUM


....and? Being scum doesn't make everything he said a lie, it just gives it greater context.


Ok but you don't get to keep referencing it as if he couldn't have just said whatever?

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Post Post #1006  (isolation #149)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:41 pm

In post 1002, Superhans wrote:
In post 999, ThinkBig wrote:For now

VOTE: Alisae

I feel like 991 and 993 were contrived.

Dude you're supposed to be working, either piss off for a few days, or actually comment and post relevant stuff, rather than incredibly lame votes. :igmeou:


I agree with him btw. About 991 and 993

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Post Post #1014  (isolation #150)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:49 pm

In post 1007, Superhans wrote:Because you want him to be right.


Um, no? I had the same thought about alisae there

It's not that I want him to be right for some reason.

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Post Post #1015  (isolation #151)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:49 pm

In post 1008, Alisae wrote:Is there something wrong with fakehammering?


I never said that. Nobody fakehammered.

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Post Post #1016  (isolation #152)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:50 pm

In post 1008, Alisae wrote:I wanted to see how he would react.


Alright. And how did he react?

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Post Post #1021  (isolation #153)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:57 pm

What Alisae did wasn't fake hammering... it was pretending that someone else had hammered

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Post Post #1026  (isolation #154)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:04 pm

In post 1012, Gamma Emerald wrote:UNVOTE:

I need to collect a few thoughts


We'll be eagerly awaiting

Superhans wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=66795&hilit=stack


Why did you link that? Also your dumb highlight is in the link

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Post Post #1028  (isolation #155)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:07 pm

In post 1025, Superhans wrote:Dunnstral how has ur game play changed since this game?


I don't know

I'll tell you what I did though:
As traitor I accused someone else of being traitor for capitalizing T's
I hard defended town lynchbait all game, and half of town was focused on him all game up until the end (he never got lynched because of a claim cc)
I was bussing one of my partners, but they never got lynched

That's my scum game, though. I don't know about my town game. You can read that if you like, I did say I had played this setup before.

How did you come across that?

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Post Post #1031  (isolation #156)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 pm

Let's wait until he actually has time to post.

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Post Post #1034  (isolation #157)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:31 pm

In post 1029, Superhans wrote:nah i was just trying to fuck with you, havent actually read it, cos its probably not very useful.

In post 1032, Superhans wrote:This link is better, without the dumb highlight, and iso'd on the relevant player.


:?:

Are you just putting it out there for other people to read? Or do you actually think it is worth looking at?

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Post Post #1040  (isolation #158)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:54 pm

In post 722, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 537, Antihuman wrote:
In post 476, Realeo wrote:
In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor


Desperado obv Traitor, maybe...

But Desperado + MariaR -> traitor... I don'k think so.


What makes you think Desperado may be the traitor? And why do you say Maria's unlikely to be one?

Imo this:

In post 155, MariaR wrote:Oh no I'm found scum in 155 posts
...so scary


In conjunction with this:

In post 246, MariaR wrote:Crumbing roles are something I expect scum to do more then town


Looks pretty interesting, wouldn't you say?



In post 388, Antihuman wrote:
In post 369, Desperado wrote:
In post 361, Realeo wrote:My current stand is that Antihuman is like Superhans, awkward. Awkwardness is not explicitly a tell. =/


We're reading Antihuman completely differently. I see confidence where it doesn't belong, not awkwardness.


What's your basis for judging the proper level of my self-confidence? We don't have history together.



In post 395, Antihuman wrote:
In post 393, Desperado wrote:What was scumThink doing with the RQS? You dismiss it as useless RQS bullshit, which is something I don't understand.


Apparently it's something he does every game so whatever


These are interactions with desperado

I'll need to look to see if desperado was close to lynch when AH was making that connection

In post 723, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 512, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 008

Antihuman ( 3 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)
Desperado ( 2 ) - (Dunnstral, Alisae)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)
Gamma Emerald ( 1 ) - (Realeo)
Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) - (davesaz)
ThinkBig ( 1 ) - (Antihuman)
Dunnstral ( 1 ) - (ThinkBig)

Not Voting ( 2 ) - (Superhans, Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.


This was the last vc (+1 vote on tb)

Antihuman is leading with 3/7, desperado and tb have 2


At the same time votes are all over the place


This was my reasoning for thinking Desperado less likely to be mafia, what do you think?

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Post Post #1053  (isolation #159)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:38 am

In post 1052, Realeo wrote:@Dunn: I don't really see your argument. Especially the VCA


About desperado being town?

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Post Post #1055  (isolation #160)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:02 am

I explained it. This is something that already happened and I already discussed.

If you're confused, note that I'm not sure that he's town. I just wouldn't lynch him for a while with that

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Post Post #1069  (isolation #161)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:07 pm

Who's scum if tb flips town?

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Post Post #1072  (isolation #162)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:14 pm

In post 1069, Dunnstral wrote:Who's scum if tb flips town?


Answer this before hammering.

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Post Post #1073  (isolation #163)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:14 pm

Rather, we shouldn't even be lynching TB today

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Post Post #1075  (isolation #164)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:22 pm

No offense but I don't see much of a reason to follow your reads when it doesn't seem like you're putting all that much effort into this

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Post Post #1091  (isolation #165)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:12 am

You had pretty good dead thread analysis in the dance game

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Post Post #1092  (isolation #166)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:13 am

By the way, nobody can answer who's scum in tb is town. Nobody is even attempting to find scum. Even if tb is scum there's still another one you know

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Post Post #1094  (isolation #167)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:12 am

gamma claimed goon cop day 2 - realeo not goon

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Post Post #1141  (isolation #168)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:36 pm

In post 1103, Realeo wrote:
In post 1095, Regfan wrote:Lol are people seriously voting ThinkBig, the fuck is going on.


Nobody gave a counter-wagon--well it was Gamma but he claimed Joat. Please do start one.

Spoiler: Ooooo
I said JOAT again


Yes I did

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Post Post #1142  (isolation #169)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:39 pm

In post 1138, Superhans wrote:I used the introduction of her previous game as an act of intimidation, and I wanted to see if I could provoke anger out of her.


Walk me through how this makes sense

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Post Post #1144  (isolation #170)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:37 pm

all those categories look the same

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Post Post #1145  (isolation #171)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:38 pm

Why is Alisaea town? That's the only one I care about there


Btw I'm willing to lynch Davesaz as well

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Post Post #1146  (isolation #172)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:38 pm

I'm glad regfan is getting people off of TB

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Post Post #1148  (isolation #173)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:19 pm

Uh, Antihero was traitor? not a good?

Surely if the two of you are suggesting that thinkbig moved off of antihero because he knew he was the traitor, you can point to where thinkbig would have known that antihero was a traitor? Some kind of tell, or soft, or the way Ah acted?

Coming out hard on a maf buddy doesn't scream "traitor" to me.

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Post Post #1149  (isolation #174)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:20 pm

No but seriously - point out how Thinkbig knows AH is a traitor there or I'm going to vote you.

@Kop
@Superhans

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Post Post #1150  (isolation #175)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:20 pm

VOTE: Kop

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Post Post #1152  (isolation #176)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:43 pm

In post 1151, Superhans wrote:Stop trying to link me with Kop,


This is scummy. I'm not "linking you to cop"

he agreed with something you said, talked about it, and you both need to answer for it. Is there a reason you don't want to be "linked to cop"?

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Post Post #1153  (isolation #177)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:44 pm

*kop

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Post Post #1155  (isolation #178)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:45 pm

I don't agree with those points at all, but I also definitely wouldn't base an entire read off of a stretch like that as town.

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Post Post #1156  (isolation #179)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:46 pm

In post 1154, Superhans wrote:
In post 1142, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1138, Superhans wrote:I used the introduction of her previous game as an act of intimidation, and I wanted to see if I could provoke anger out of her.


Walk me through how this makes sense

I've said twice already, I was trying to fuck with you. Get you angry and see where things go from there. U didn't take the bait unfortunately.


What does getting me angry accomplish?

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Post Post #1160  (isolation #180)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:15 pm

It almost sounds like you're saying angry = scummy, though I don't know why I'd get "angry" at someone looking at my meta in the first place

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Post Post #1161  (isolation #181)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:16 pm

In post 1157, Superhans wrote:Feels like people are trying to affiliate me with Kop, who is a scummy AF player. You're not the first, and I'm speaking to everyone who has done it. Gamma was the first person to do so, saying, if Kop flips.scum, lynch superhans.i think Regfan also suggests we could be linked(? Sorry if I got that last one wrong).


I didn't link anything. I asked you both the same question

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Post Post #1164  (isolation #182)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:29 pm

What's the town motivation for that?

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Post Post #1169  (isolation #183)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:53 pm

^Bad post.

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Post Post #1170  (isolation #184)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:54 pm

That doesn't even really make sense

It doesn't look like a real thought process, either. If it is it's a dumb one

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Post Post #1188  (isolation #185)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:23 pm

I actually was the traitor in that game that was linked and I didn't signal at all

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Post Post #1189  (isolation #186)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:25 pm

Actually - does the traitor even have a bp vest? The one I played had one, and it says so in the wiki, but I don't think the role pm says anything about bulletproof

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Post Post #1191  (isolation #187)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:27 pm

In post 1184, Realeo wrote:You do understand that this is AntiHuman's first game, assuming AntiHuman is not alt?


Wait what?

I've been mixing up antihuman with antihero this whole game

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Post Post #1193  (isolation #188)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:29 pm

In post 1190, Realeo wrote:@BP: 1 shot night kill immunity.


Right - but it doesn't say that anywhere in the setup? It does on the wiki

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Post Post #1195  (isolation #189)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:31 pm

Oh right it does say that... I guess I got confused since it wasn't bolded

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Post Post #1196  (isolation #190)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:31 pm

In post 1192, Alisae wrote:It's illogical therefore it's logical, because you don't think a traitor would do that, therefore they do it.


There isn't a reason to be following logic like this

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Post Post #1206  (isolation #191)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:44 pm

Ah wasn't trying to get himself lynched.

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Post Post #1209  (isolation #192)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:46 pm

Hey alisae, what are your thoughts on non-tb players? What happens if tb flips town?

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Post Post #1210  (isolation #193)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:47 pm

In post 1207, Alisae wrote:And his case was bad because?


:?:

I did't think it was bad, actually

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Post Post #1235  (isolation #194)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:30 am

Why does the traitor push make alisae town? How would alisae know AH was traitor?

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Post Post #1236  (isolation #195)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:30 am

Same for Dave I guess

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Post Post #1238  (isolation #196)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:52 am

I think the push on you being traitor wasn't very strong? I remember not believing it

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Post Post #1240  (isolation #197)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:01 am

In post 512, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 008

Antihuman ( 3 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)
Desperado ( 2 ) - (Dunnstral, Alisae)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)
Gamma Emerald ( 1 ) - (Realeo)
Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) - (davesaz)
ThinkBig ( 1 ) - (Antihuman)
Dunnstral ( 1 ) - (ThinkBig)

Not Voting ( 2 ) - (Superhans, Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

In post 609, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 009

Antihuman ( 5 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae)
ThinkBig ( 3 ) - (Antihuman, Superhans, Realeo)
Desperado ( 2 ) - (Dunnstral, davesaz)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)

Not Voting ( 1 ) - (Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

Prodding Kop and Gamma Emerald.
Let me know if the VC is incorrect for some reason.

No deadline extension.

In post 669, grapes wrote:DAY 1 VC 010

Antihuman ( 5 ) - (Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Alisae, davesaz, Superhans)
ThinkBig ( 3 ) - (Antihuman, Realeo, Desperado)
Desperado ( 1 ) - (Dunnstral)
Realeo ( 1 ) - (algebra)
Kop ( 1 ) - (ssbm_Kyouko)

Not Voting ( 1 ) - (Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.


Ali and dave both jump off of you to vote ah

He was scum, yes, but of course they don't know that. And if they thought you were traitor I'd say it looks scummy. They never really let your wagon take off

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Post Post #1242  (isolation #198)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:25 am

I guess, though alternatively I don't see why scum has to tell the truth about their traitor reads. What was the case on you being traitor again? I recall Alisae was talkinga bout realeo using too many emoticons as a form of role softing around the time

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Post Post #1244  (isolation #199)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:27 am

In post 487, Alisae wrote:
In post 485, Desperado wrote:
In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor


So do you still think Antihuman is scum?
Ye.
In post 486, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 476, Realeo wrote:
In post 474, Alisae wrote:I'll get to my thoughts about the last 11 pages later, I'm gonna go to bed actually pretty soon.
But yeah, I'm just gonna leave this here
VOTE: Desperado
Obvious Traitor


Desperado obv Traitor, maybe...

But Desperado + MariaR -> traitor... I don'k think so.



What are you talking about

What does MariaR have to do with it
In post 155, MariaR wrote:Oh no I'm found scum in 155 posts
...so scary
This. I basicly saw this and thought traitor. Yes it's probably mocking TB, but Traitors want to make it very obvious to their scumteam that they are the traitor. You seriously have no idea how obvious they will be just to show that they are the traitor.


Wait - The basis for you being traitor accounted for TB being scum?

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