OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)

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Post Post #1271  (isolation #200)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:46 pm

In post 1270, davesaz wrote:It looks like Kop is painted into a corner.
His scumread Gamma claimed a town PR but his vote is still parked there.
The wagon on TB has wound down so it's pointless for him to jump there now.
He sees people nibbling at me but not voting. Desperado doesn't seem viable, most people are townreading {Superhans, Realeo, Dunnstral} and Regfan is conf.

Plenty of scum motivation for waiting it out instead of digging a deeper hole by trying to press something that is implausible.

VOTE: Kop

Want you to know that I'm not townreading you right now Davesaz. You're trying to use the fact that people aren't voting you as proof you're not Scum. I'm not however scum reading to nearly the same extent as a player like kop.

VOTE: Kop

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Post Post #1328  (isolation #201)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:15 pm

In post 1255, Kop wrote:
In post 1148, Dunnstral wrote:Uh, Antihero was traitor? not a good?

Surely if the two of you are suggesting that thinkbig moved off of antihero because he knew he was the traitor, you can point to where thinkbig would have known that antihero was a traitor? Some kind of tell, or soft, or the way Ah acted?

Coming out hard on a maf buddy doesn't scream "traitor" to me.


I think I may have misread the whole Mafia PM's. :facepalm:

So on that said, thinkbig may be town after all. After rereading the PM's set out in first page, I don't forsee a traitor coming out that hard, now that I know the traitor only knows who the the mafia are, but mafia don't know who the traitor is.

How did you think Traitor played beforehand? Surely if you thought the mafia knew who the traitor was, there would be no difference between the two roles (beyond Traitor not being able to communicate).

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Post Post #1329  (isolation #202)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:17 pm

In post 1258, Kop wrote:
In post 1256, Regfan wrote:I find that hard to believe Kop given you've played this exact setup before and made the following comment in this post:

But scum don't know who the traitor is though? There is the chance that they could end up night killing him, which is a risk because it doesn't help them that way though.

I know I was a mafia traitor on another site, but ended up getting night killed by my own team mates day one, they didn't know I was the traitor.


I totally forgot that I had already researched this point and got side drawn from it.

Yes whilst I agree I have played as a traitor before, however it wasn't in this exact setup. This setup is slightly different to the one I participated on another site.

I know that you've linked me the game, but can you explain in simple simple terms how the mafia traitor role was different to the mafia traitor role in this game?

I want you to prove that your admittance that you didn't know how mafia traitor worked was genuine.

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Post Post #1330  (isolation #203)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:26 pm

In post 1274, Regfan wrote:[...]
And if Kop does flip scum SH deserves to be looked at.
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Why?

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Post Post #1331  (isolation #204)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:28 pm

In post 1327, Desperado wrote:I don't care, reg. I want this dead.

yo Desperado, you're not really trying very hard to convince people. If Regfan is right, and ThinkBig did act as town, who would you want to lynch? It is likely that by the end of the day the ThinkBig wagon will not be as viable as the beginning of the day, and you'll be forced to choose a new wagon, if so who would you want to lynch?

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Post Post #1333  (isolation #205)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:33 pm

UNVOTE: Unvote
After role claim.

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Post Post #1334  (isolation #206)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:34 pm

In post 1332, ThinkBig wrote:Going back through kop, I have a difficult time believing his roleblocker claim for the following reasons:

  • His dumbtell is demonstrated to be probably false. He has played this set-up before and has clearly demonstrated a knowledge of how the mafia traitor works.
  • I can brush off forgetting about playing this past setup. I cannot, however, look past an experienced player not knowing how a role is supposed to work, especially when you can easily see it in the sample PMs.
  • It's really convenient that the person that he claimed to have RB was the person who was NK'd (and who flipped vanilla town).

Hmm?

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Post Post #1335  (isolation #207)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:36 pm

In post 1324, Desperado wrote:
In post 1273, Regfan wrote:/Headdesk. Majority of players don't alter their reads because their town reads have them, especially someone that's as inexperienced as ThingBig. This is pretty bad point given who you're talking about.


If your town read on ThinkBig boils down to "He isn't good at this game" then I feel comfortable not sheeping you on him

Regfan doesn't agree the the argument that it was a display of Scum Theatre.

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Post Post #1337  (isolation #208)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:39 pm

Readlist:
Alisae - Town
Dunnstral - Town
Realo - Town
IF ThinkBig is Town then:
Scum is within Desperado, Kop or Davesaz.

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Post Post #1339  (isolation #209)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:40 pm

However, I think that there is still a significant chance that you're wrong, Regfan, and that ThinkBig is scum. I don't like how he played D1.

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Post Post #1341  (isolation #210)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:41 pm

Fuuu forgot about Gamma.
Is gamma still playing?

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Post Post #1344  (isolation #211)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:50 pm

@Desperado

" I think the suggestion that AH was begging TH to "let it go" in 'Post 859 is absurd and think the suggestion that TB is the type of player to notice softs from a traitor to be very outlandish, I read the last comment inside the post to make more sense as AH trying to get TB in the lynch pool." - Regfan

^Yo, You are D E N O U N C I N G this also, correct?

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Post Post #1346  (isolation #212)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:14 pm

he doesn't buy yours

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Post Post #1348  (isolation #213)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:41 pm

well for anyone to take you seriously you need to argue your case. Regfan currently has a more extensive case than you. So yeah a naked re-vote on ThinkBig isn't good enough anymore.

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Post Post #1352  (isolation #214)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:52 pm

yeh?

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Post Post #1354  (isolation #215)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:53 pm

You're implying I'm flip flopping?

I'm not townreading TB, but I think your scum push on him is built on no foundation at all.

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Post Post #1356  (isolation #216)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:54 pm

baby... I'm getting cold feet.

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Post Post #1358  (isolation #217)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:54 pm

so yeah actually, I don't buy your case anymore.

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Post Post #1360  (isolation #218)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:55 pm

You think I'm scum with TB? Or is TB out of the picture for now?

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Post Post #1361  (isolation #219)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 3:56 pm

Btw i'm revoking my town read on you desperado. I'm prick reading you.

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Post Post #1364  (isolation #220)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:00 pm

In post 1362, Desperado wrote:Buzzwords!

The analysis is self-evident--there is nothing in Superhans' ISO to support what he's saying right now.

M8 what do you not understand?

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Post Post #1366  (isolation #221)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:01 pm

i've read your case on TB (good shit right there), and I've read RF's (better good shit). You need to step up your game boy. No one is pushing TB apart from you, so you need to convince us.

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Post Post #1368  (isolation #222)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:02 pm

In post 1365, Desperado wrote:
In post 1360, Superhans wrote:You think I'm scum with TB? Or is TB out of the picture for now?


My read on you is independent of my read on ThinkBig. He could be scum that you were bussing and now you see a way out with reg in the picture; he could be town that you were riding my coat tails to mislynch and now that reg won't let it happen you've reversing course with nothing to support it.

Either way, your progression does not come from town.

I'm not townreading ThinkBig, I'm just revoking some of my faith in you.

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Post Post #1369  (isolation #223)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:02 pm

actually quite a lot of my faith in you, unless you can convince me otherwise.

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Post Post #1372  (isolation #224)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:50 pm

In post 1324, Desperado wrote:
In post 1273, Regfan wrote:/Headdesk. Majority of players don't alter their reads because their town reads have them, especially someone that's as inexperienced as ThingBig. This is pretty bad point given who you're talking about.


If your town read on ThinkBig boils down to "He isn't good at this game" then I feel comfortable not sheeping you on him

This wasn't Regfan's argument. I don't think it is unreasonable to expect you to make a convincing case on the wagon you're pushing, otherwise why bother push the wagon at all?

In post 1353, Desperado wrote:And then you just drop it and start voting and focusing on Kop. When did you decide that regfan's case was "more extensive" and why is it better than the one I built and you've been cheerleading all day?

I decided when I ISO'd Regfan. I voted Kop to indicate that I was off of the TB wagon and onto a more likely scum player.

I changed my mind, sorry if it is a surprise to you, but what can i say?

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Post Post #1373  (isolation #225)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:53 pm

In post 1371, Desperado wrote:
In post 1368, Superhans wrote:I'm not townreading ThinkBig, I'm just revoking some of my faith in you.


So Reg's townThink case was so good that the scumThink one you'd been cheerleading all day is now complete and utter bollocks, but you also don't think ThinkBig is town?

???

Yeh, but I don't think the scum case on ThinkBig is bollocks, just I feel more confident lynching Kop today. Your latest scumpush on TB is not compelling.

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Post Post #1378  (isolation #226)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:00 pm

In post 1376, Desperado wrote:
In post 1373, Superhans wrote:Yeh, but I don't think the scum case on ThinkBig is bollocks, just I feel more confident lynching Kop today. Your latest scumpush on TB is not compelling.


You still feel confident lynching a claimed roleblocker?

oh shit forgot about that claimed roleblocker thing. nah im not confident tbh.

Super unsure about Gamma, because I actually forgot to read him which is always a bad sign. I'm undecided for now.

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Post Post #1380  (isolation #227)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:06 pm

In post 1070, Gamma Emerald wrote:V/LA until tuesday
also intent to hammer TB

The quick hammer thing made me concerned, along eith Realeo's calling me JOAT
but I'm reconvinced now

k Gamma is V/LA, ISOing him doesn't suggest that he was playing particularily scummy after his roleclaim.

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Post Post #1382  (isolation #228)  » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:13 pm

I unvoted Gamma due to the roleclaim and I have unvoted Kop for the same reason. How easy would it be for scum to get away with a fakeclaim?

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Post Post #1427  (isolation #229)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:35 am

Vanilla Town

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Post Post #1463  (isolation #230)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:46 pm

In post 763, Realeo wrote:So this catch my attention....

In post 634, Antihuman wrote:No need for useless speculation, I will flip town and TB will flip scum. Feel free to hammer.


So AntiHuman plays the AtE card at L-1. The wagon at the L-1 was.

Antihuman ( 6 ) - (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae, SuperHans)


I find it strange. AntiHuman has made a play (in my opinion) an excellent analysis (he fooled me) and push with confidence.


Why the sudden mood change from confindence to surrenderness?



I think he surrender because his scum partner is voting against him. As a mafia traitor, judging by psychological analysis, being a mafia traitor is a lonely role. Being foresaken by his partner is a lonely game.

So there are 6 people. To a certain degree.. TB is town. ssbm flipped town. There is a minimum of 1 scum in (Gamma Emerald, Desperado, Alisae, SuperHans)

@Realo do you still believe this?

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Post Post #1464  (isolation #231)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:12 pm

TB you have not explained your interaction with AH D1.

There's not a wagon on you but seems like your V/LA and low quality content has paid off for you.

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Post Post #1485  (isolation #232)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:35 pm

VOTE: Kop

ThinkBig you haven't rebutted any accusations that your behaviour with AH D1 was scum theatre. How do you explain your flakiness?

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Post Post #1488  (isolation #233)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:35 pm

Whats your case on Kop?

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Post Post #1491  (isolation #234)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:40 pm

oh sorry :(

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Post Post #1587  (isolation #235)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:03 pm

We lynching Kop then?

or just gonna do nothing?

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Post Post #1616  (isolation #236)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:30 am

In post 1615, Regfan wrote:Alright, here's where I'm currently at;

Town (S->W): Realeo, Nydus, ThingBig (Gap), Gamma, Dunnstrsal, Dave
Null: SuperHans, Desperado
Scum (S->W): Kop
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him voting Gamma based on SSBM reasoning but not Kop is sketchy and there's a potential post from AH that makes sense signalling to both partners if Kops scum with him.

Think I've got everyone I wanted down in the thread and we've given Kop & Gamma plenty of time to get in here and contribute, wouldn't be too displeased with a hammer from hereon out; if anyone has an issue with Nydus (or anyone really) hammering they should make it known as soon as they can.

Huh, I don't really understand either of these points, can you elaborate. I think there is a 99% chance that Kop will be lynched today, and also think theres a significant chance that he'll flip scum, so I don't think it is unproductive to assume this to be the case and indulge in a bit of hypothetical.

Hypothetical:
IF Kop flips scum,

why would I be his partner?

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Post Post #1617  (isolation #237)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:34 am

my vote on Gamma wasn't ever because he was SSBM's target at one point. I literally just say that I'm carrying out her wishes, not citing it at all being a reason.

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Post Post #1618  (isolation #238)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:35 am

would like to see the suspect post that was targeted at me and Kop.

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Post Post #1619  (isolation #239)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:42 am

Town (S->W): Realeo, Dunnstrsal,
Town Lean: Nydus
Null: ThinkBig, Gamma
Scum Lean: Desperado, Davesaz
Scum (S->W): Kop,

Desperado has changed because I really don't appreciate how he has been interacting with me. His push on ThinkBig is not compelling anymore, and I don't like his attitude towards Regfan.

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Post Post #1638  (isolation #240)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:15 pm

In post 1620, Realeo wrote:
In post 1617, Superhans wrote:my vote on Gamma wasn't ever because he was SSBM's target at one point. I literally just say that I'm carrying out her wishes, not citing it at all being a reason.


My problem would be why keep the vote until L-2. If Gamma vote is some mini D-2 RVS, I can relate. It seems reckless to me.

Look at my interactions with Gamma beforehand.

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Post Post #1639  (isolation #241)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:17 pm

I give my reasoning. It wasn't RVS it was because at the time I felt certain he was scum (until the claim).

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Post Post #1640  (isolation #242)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:19 pm

Am i right in saying that Kop is to be lynched upon the next VC?

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Post Post #1641  (isolation #243)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:21 pm

Regfan is most likely to be NK target, so I'd like you to give us any 'last words' incase you die.

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Post Post #1647  (isolation #244)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:24 pm

In post 1643, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1641, Superhans wrote:Regfan is most likely to be NK target, so I'd like you to give us any 'last words' incase you die.


If Gamma's claim is true, then wouldn't he be the NK target over regfan?

True... We.really should have waited for Gamma to leave VLA before hammering.

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Post Post #1710  (isolation #245)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:41 am

I see no reason for Gamma to have to make a fakeclaim, I don't think he should be fairly town read for today.

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Post Post #1712  (isolation #246)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:41 am

In post 1655, Desperado wrote:Vote: ThinkBig

We are doing it my way today Reg.

M8 what if ur scum?

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Post Post #1714  (isolation #247)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:42 am

Desperado y do you think you are in a position to lead. You're the last person I want to lead right now.

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Post Post #1715  (isolation #248)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:43 am

In post 1713, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1710, Superhans wrote:I see no reason for Gamma to have to make a fakeclaim, I don't think he should be fairly town read for today.


What do you mean

I think both Kop and Gamma were telling the truth.

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Post Post #1719  (isolation #249)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:46 am

About their roles.

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Post Post #1720  (isolation #250)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:51 am

The way ThinkBig plays is very annoying and I don't think it's that helpful for town either. Kinda flaky, and insubstantial.
HOWEVER
Explains his weird behaviour D1 and I think that he is probably town.

@ThinkBig
Hit me up with some game threads when you played Town, and some games you played scum.

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Post Post #1721  (isolation #251)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:52 am

@Desperado,
Has Kop flipping changed your read on ThinkBig at all?

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Post Post #1727  (isolation #252)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:06 am

In post 1723, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1715, Superhans wrote:
In post 1713, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1710, Superhans wrote:I see no reason for Gamma to have to make a fakeclaim, I don't think he should be fairly town read for today.


What do you mean

I think both Kop and Gamma were telling the truth.

Superhans wrote:About their roles.


Considering they're both dead it would seem so

In other news: Has dumb telling gone too far?

Fuck. Sorry.

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Post Post #1728  (isolation #253)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:08 am

In post 1724, Realeo wrote:
In post 1720, Superhans wrote:The way ThinkBig plays is very annoying and I don't think it's that helpful for town either. Kinda flaky, and insubstantial.
HOWEVER
Explains his weird behaviour D1 and I think that he is probably town.

Elaborate "his weird behaviour D1"

Flipping from AH to Dunnstral and effectively divorcing himself from his 'biggest scumread'

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Post Post #1730  (isolation #254)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:09 am

In post 1725, Realeo wrote:Are you Merkans? Why are you awake 5 am? When someone makes dumb post, I classify that "losing brain quality over insomnia" or "just drank too much"

It's 11:00 am where I am. It was a genuine fuck up on my behalf. A NAI brain retardation moment.

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Post Post #1732  (isolation #255)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:11 am

His play is consistent with his play D1, so likely he is an awkward town player rather than mastermind scum.

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Post Post #1733  (isolation #256)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:14 am

In post 1673, ThinkBig wrote:UNVOTE: Desperado
VOTE: Superhans

As an ISO read, Hans is worse than desperado

What specifically in my ISO?

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Post Post #1734  (isolation #257)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:15 am

VOTE: Desperado

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Post Post #1735  (isolation #258)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:18 am

Desperado when you counter scum attack me I'd also like to know who your other scum read is and why.

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Post Post #1737  (isolation #259)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:23 am

Only players I am comfortable following today are Regfan and Realo.

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Post Post #1740  (isolation #260)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:28 am

Hmm? Desperados case has been that we should lynch TB. If I'm wrong please link when Desperado said otherwise.

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Post Post #1746  (isolation #261)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:48 am

@Davesaz,
Why aren't you commenting mate? Your last post was almost 3 days ago.
You're clearly online, you've commented today already.
I can understand that laziness may cause town to not post, but its really really not helping us.

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Post Post #1747  (isolation #262)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:53 am

In post 1495, davesaz wrote:
In post 1493, Regfan wrote:1. Mafia selected 0 Additional PR's, Kop is scum. In this instance Gamma & Realeo are confirmed town.

I don't follow this - how would scum Kop confirm Realeo as town?

In post 1644, davesaz wrote:^ Correct but this is also possible WIFOM positioning Gamma for a lynch if not killed.

These are prod dodges right?

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Post Post #1751  (isolation #263)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:08 am

In post 1749, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1736, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: Desperado


This feels very opportunistic. Why did you go from voting Dave to Desperado?

You think voting Desperado is easy?

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Post Post #1752  (isolation #264)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:09 am

In post 1733, Superhans wrote:
In post 1673, ThinkBig wrote:UNVOTE: Desperado
VOTE: Superhans

As an ISO read, Hans is worse than desperado

What specifically in my ISO?

answer this plz.

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Post Post #1754  (isolation #265)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:11 am

bullshit that you skimmed my iso in two minutes, just say that you're chatting shit and try to rejustify your vote on me.

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Post Post #1756  (isolation #266)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:15 am

also explain why re-reading my iso made me flip from Desperado to me.

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Post Post #1762  (isolation #267)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:20 am

y tho?

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Post Post #1766  (isolation #268)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:22 am

In post 1758, Desperado wrote:
In post 1714, Superhans wrote:Desperado y do you think you are in a position to lead. You're the last person I want to lead right now.


I couldn't care less what you want.

You're making this relationship more toxic.

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Post Post #1772  (isolation #269)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:26 am

A nasty relationship goals.

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Post Post #1773  (isolation #270)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:27 am

In post 1770, Desperado wrote:
In post 1762, Superhans wrote:y tho?


Because your entire demeanor regarding his lunch andy case changed when reg replaced in and started WKing think but even though you're sheeped his case you still wouldn't call Think town. It was all terribly scummy.

felt that your demeanor regardign Regfan questioning your logic was scummy.

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Post Post #1775  (isolation #271)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:29 am

In post 1720, Superhans wrote:The way ThinkBig plays is very annoying and I don't think it's that helpful for town either. Kinda flaky, and insubstantial.
HOWEVER
Explains his weird behaviour D1 and I think that he is probably town.

@ThinkBig
Hit me up with some game threads when you played Town, and some games you played scum.

Revoking my town read of ThinkBig.

The stuff he posted after this really isnt from a town mindset.

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Post Post #1776  (isolation #272)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:30 am

One Scum within:
{ThinkBig Desperado}

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Post Post #1778  (isolation #273)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:31 am

In post 1770, Desperado wrote:
In post 1762, Superhans wrote:y tho?


Because your entire demeanor regarding his lunch andy case changed when reg replaced in and started WKing think but even though you're sheeped his case you still wouldn't call Think town. It was all terribly scummy.

y ThinkBig?

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Post Post #1779  (isolation #274)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:32 am

@Realo,
I'd like to hear it from Desperado first.
Not because i dont value your content, but I'm fairly sure you're town, so its more important to hear it from Desperado.

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Post Post #1780  (isolation #275)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:33 am

Also Realo why do you not think Desperado could be scum?

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Post Post #1784  (isolation #276)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:38 am

Elevator pitch me ThinkBig.
Desperado first (hopefully)
but i want everyones case.

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Post Post #1785  (isolation #277)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:38 am

R U D E B O Y

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Post Post #1788  (isolation #278)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:41 am

nah i dont want to look at his iso, i want to hear it in a new post, and in short.

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Post Post #1792  (isolation #279)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:44 am

i want to hear it again bby. new words

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Post Post #1794  (isolation #280)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:50 am

Desperado acting like a cunt is unnecessary and isn't really compelling me to follow you.

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Post Post #1796  (isolation #281)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:54 am

I'm going to ask you one final time, and I don't mind if you want to be rude to me, and maybe post a degrading meme or something, because its not like im going to go away and cry into my pillow until i run out of tears.
If you don't feel like summarising your case for me, I'm sure another player will ask on my behalf:

I want you to tell me why you're voting ThinkBig. Doesn't even have to be much, maybe just 1 sentence if that is all you can be bothered to give.

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Post Post #1797  (isolation #282)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:56 am

In post 1795, Desperado wrote:I am not counting on your support.

Lol you gonna exclude me because you're confident I'm scum?

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Post Post #1798  (isolation #283)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:57 am

oh and i want your answer to be in new words, like dont just copy and paste that enormous post from early D1, the thing i kept on copy and pasting, iv read that like 5 times already. I want you to summarise.

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Post Post #1799  (isolation #284)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:04 pm

early D2

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Post Post #1802  (isolation #285)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:14 pm

In post 1801, Desperado wrote:
In post 1797, Superhans wrote:Lol you gonna exclude me because you're confident I'm scum?


I mean that's part of it. The other part is you betrayed my trust yesterday and your progression didn't make any sense from a town perspective, so even if I didn't think you were scum, I still wouldn't be counting on, or courting, your support.

you weren't making any sense yesterday, you were completely disregarding Regfans critism of your logic.

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Post Post #1803  (isolation #286)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:17 pm

In post 1800, Desperado wrote:
In post 1796, Superhans wrote:I want you to tell me why you're voting ThinkBig. Doesn't even have to be much, maybe just 1 sentence if that is all you can be bothered to give.


I am voting ThinkBig because he is scum.

yeh no shit, but y?

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Post Post #1806  (isolation #287)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:25 pm

can you just reemphasise your case on ThinkBig simply?

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Post Post #1808  (isolation #288)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:29 pm

so nothing ThinkBig has done since early D2 has changed your opinion on him?

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Post Post #1810  (isolation #289)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:00 pm

UNVOTE: Desperado

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Post Post #1811  (isolation #290)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:01 pm

Torn between you or TB.

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Post Post #1813  (isolation #291)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:09 pm

Davesaz maybe.

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Post Post #1814  (isolation #292)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:11 pm

Okay I know you scum read me hard and want me lynched, but let's say hypothetically I could somehow prove beyond all doubt I was town,
Who would be the second scum?

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Post Post #1815  (isolation #293)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:18 pm

Desperado the argument you made on TB early D2 didn't make sense - ScumThinkBig wouldn't know that AH is traitor.

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Post Post #1817  (isolation #294)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:30 pm

In post 859, Desperado wrote:
In post 382, Antihuman wrote:I do admit my case on TB may have been a bit overblown but I wanted people to see the parallel between this and Gamma's wagon.
I've seen few interesting reactions, gonna elaborate tomorrow (this is the part where TB should shout: excuses!).


look at this

TraitorAH is basically begging Think to just let it go.

In post 383, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 381, Superhans wrote:@ThinkBig

Out of 4 players on the Gammagon:

K O P
D E S P E R A D O
R E A L O
T H I N K B I G
S U P E R H A N S

┬┐Why Did He Go After You?


Not sure TBH. Possibly because I was the one that got the wagon moving. In any case, the wagon and my vote did exactly what I wanted it to do.

In post 382, Antihuman wrote:I do admit my case on TB may have been a bit overblown[/quote

You no say?

I've seen few interesting reactions, gonna elaborate tomorrow (this is the part where TB should shout: excuses!).


Excuses!!

In post 475, ThinkBig wrote:Just re read the last few pages.

VOTE: Dunnstral

I really don't like his defense of antihuman. It reeks the smell of buddying.

I'll provide my full reads and more information on Sunday night after work. Been quite busy with the holiday.

In post 502, ThinkBig wrote:Here are my reads so far:

Algebra - Confirmed town. I so wish he would contribute to the game and be more active. There's no way I'd be TRing him if he wasn't the IC.

Alisae - Strong town lean. I like his analysis so far and he seems to be making a genuine attempt to scum hunt and solve the game.

ssbm_Kyouko - Null lean.

Davesaz - Null town.

Kop - Null

Gamma - Null

Superhans - Null

Desperado - Null scum. I really don't like how he buddied up to Antihuman. His defense screamed that he was buddying him.

Realeao - Scum lean. I don't like how he constantly asks "why" and asks people to keep explaining things that they already have. He asks those types of questions in a scummy way.

Antihuman - I really don't like how he has been throwing shades everywhere. His case against me was very bad and felt contrived. I also really don't like how he tried to derail the Gamma wagon. If gamma flips scum, I'm fairly confident he is scum as well.

I think that's everyone. Let me know if I missed someone.


And he does! Even tho he lists AH as his biggest scumread in his next post.

^This is about the point where AH decided to pivot and really buss ThinkBig. Think posts another reads list that AH bashes as well, and he then he starts to link Think and Alisae really hard:

In post 574, Antihuman wrote:Lol this readlist's such bullshit

In post 570, ThinkBig wrote:
Revised Read List


Algebra - Confirmed town. I so wish he would contribute to the game and be more active. There's no way I'd be TRing him if he wasn't the IC. <--- Completely unnecessary comment. Trying to appear better by having one extra scumread

Alisae - By far my biggest town read. He shows genuine interest in the game and shows genuine scum hunting. <--- because she scumreads me too, how surprising

Superhans - Town lean. I disagree with his logic, but I understand where he is coming from <--- aka "I know his reasons for scumreading me are valid but I'll just wait until he gets bored and goes away"

ssbm_Kyouko - Null town. <--- in your previous readlist, she was a "null lean", which looks like a hilarious slip. You don't wanna look like you have too many nulls but you have no reasons for townreading her.

Davesaz - Null town. <--- for what? He's defended me and he's voted Desperado for logic which you called flatout wrong!

Kop - Null <--- what's your opinion on Real's case on Kop?

Gamma - Null <--- but he's my partner, member?!

Desperado - Null, leans scum. I don't really buy the traitor theory nor do I buy the logic behind it. <--- Why the fuck are you scumleaning on him then?! Leaving your options open? You should be scumreading people who started pushing him for wrong reasons instead! (including your strongest tr, Alisae...)

Realeao - Scum lean. 561 screams opportunistic and sheeping. I also don't like how he is constantly flipping his reads and can't seem to make up his mind. <--- How the hell is he sheeping when he's provided valid reasons for scumreading you, just like Superhans. How come you don't "disagree with his logic but see where he's coming from" here? Being undecided isn't a scumtell too. You've scumread me for tunnelling, which is a complete opposite! You also haven't addressed his points...

Antihuman - Continuing to throw shades and continuing <--- what the hell does that even mean? If scumminess was the color black, there wouldn't even be a shadow visible on you, smh


Honest to god, I wasn't really up to lynching you when I entered the game but now I seriously have reasons to see you hang, there are just too many discrepancies. I also wouldn't be surprised at Tb-Alisae team. Both are pushing me on bullshit reasoning and townread each other based on thin air, looks like a well coordinated last minute mislynch push.

In post 586, Antihuman wrote:zZz just lynch me already, I can't take this united scumfront pounding at my will to do something productive


Finally, this:

In post 627, Antihuman wrote:Yeah it seems like really a great play to get into the game, decide you wanna tunnel your partner for no particular reason instead of choosing a safe target and try to blend in with deadline slowly approaching and risk getting both players lynched as the only viable wagons wtf I'm a much better scum player than that, don't insult me


Looks like frustrated scum reaching for WIFOM.

Then why would AH beg him to let it go?

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Post Post #1819  (isolation #295)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:45 pm

"And he does! Even tho he lists AH as his biggest scumread in his next post. "

Whats the scum motivation of letting go of a player who is getting lynched, and you're justified to lynch, who you think is town.

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Post Post #1821  (isolation #296)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:01 pm

In post 882, Desperado wrote:
In post 881, Realeo wrote:Although there is one plot hole in your reasoning, Desperado.

How does, ThinkBig exactly catch the signal "So you're traitor, AntiHuman? Sorry. I would back off."


If someone replaced in to a game and immediately started creating a completely bullshit case against me as scum, and then a couple pages later was like "LOL just kidding, that was made up just to prove that you could do that against anyone and at least it got a bunch of reactions! hahaha" I think I would get the point and back off.

Don't you?

In post 980, Desperado wrote:Reminder that AH himself said he wasn't bussing to begin with, he made a BS case up on "someone random" (hinthint) just to prove that the Gamma wagon was trash. Then AH's wagon didn't go away and ThinkBig kept posting scummy shit so AH pivoted and started pushing even harder.

^This is a scum on scum progression.

You did explain it clearly, sorry for not picking up on this.

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Post Post #1822  (isolation #297)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:12 pm

I respect that logic, but im not 100% convinced by it.

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Post Post #1823  (isolation #298)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:24 pm

In post 1663, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I am at right now:

Town: {Real, nydush}
Lean town: {Dunnestral}
Null: {Dave}
Scum: {Desperado, Superhans}

I am confident that there is a scum between desperado and Hans and would preferably like to lynch one of those today.


okay if there is one scum in
{Desperado, Superhans}
Who is the partner if it is:
Superhans

Who is the partner if it is:
Desperado

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Post Post #1834  (isolation #299)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:18 pm

In post 1828, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1813, Superhans wrote:Davesaz maybe.


Why can't we vote davesaz, then?

Go ahead, fine by me.

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Post Post #1835  (isolation #300)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:29 pm

I'd quite like a lynch within:
{Desperado or ThinkBig}

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Post Post #1837  (isolation #301)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:36 pm

In post 1827, davesaz wrote:Superhans is consistently a late entrant on big wagons, other than wagons on ThinkBig. The only exception to this rule that I see is being early on Gamma d1, but that was after being 3rd on that wagon and two left it.

My lateness to the AntiHuman wagon was because I wasn't that convinced AH was town.

Imho this alone is.n exceptionally poor.reason to want to lynch me. Hopefully other players will agree with me.

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Post Post #1838  (isolation #302)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:37 pm

I mean I wasn't convinced AH was scum if you read the posts leading up to my AH vote you'll see why I'm last.

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Post Post #1839  (isolation #303)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:40 pm

I think Davesaz is being opportunistic, I'm an easier player to push than either Desperado or ThinkBig.

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Post Post #1840  (isolation #304)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:42 pm

Okay taking that last post back, I had thought Dave had voted for me.

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Post Post #1841  (isolation #305)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:45 pm

Dave what is your read on:
T H I N K B I G
D E S P E R A D O
?

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Post Post #1842  (isolation #306)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:47 pm

A N Y O N E not scumreading either TB or Desperado?

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Post Post #1893  (isolation #307)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:46 am

@Realo,
Do you think TB's chronic lack of content and originality is necessarily scum? What else do you base your scum read on?

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Post Post #1894  (isolation #308)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:47 am

I think that TBs playstyles is difficult to evaluate, as his low effort low content posts ooze scum.

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Post Post #1895  (isolation #309)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:50 am

In post 1748, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1720, Superhans wrote:@ThinkBig
Hit me up with some game threads when you played Town, and some games you played scum.


Scum Games
Micro 672 (Hydra with Pine)
Open 661

These are my only scum games.

Town Games

Micro 657
Micro 663
Mini Normal 1862 (one of my better games. Replaced late into the game)

All my other games are on my Wiki page.

As town he has been lynched D1 before. Idk y but I'd be hesitant to assume not defending himself makes him scum.

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Post Post #1896  (isolation #310)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:36 am

In post 1889, davesaz wrote:[...]
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt instead of power lynching you. I suggest you use that opportunity to up your game.

Lol I can see scum motivation in this post. Threatening Dunnstral for making a case on you. Id like to see you to go ahead and tell me how you'd power lynch Dunnstral.

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Post Post #1900  (isolation #311)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:48 am

In post 1814, Superhans wrote:Okay I know you scum read me hard and want me lynched, but let's say hypothetically I could somehow prove beyond all doubt I was town,
Who would be the second scum?

@ Desperado

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Post Post #1908  (isolation #312)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:47 am

In post 1904, Desperado wrote:
In post 1900, Superhans wrote:@ Desperado


That's not how it works. Must you make me repeat myself with every question you ask?

I didn't answer...

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Post Post #1909  (isolation #313)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:48 am

It's not a hugely important question so I don't care that much if you don't want to answer it, but it'll help me make a read on you.

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Post Post #1910  (isolation #314)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:48 am

So yeah, outside of me and Gb, who could be scum?

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Post Post #1911  (isolation #315)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:48 am

*TB

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Post Post #1912  (isolation #316)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:49 am

In post 1908, Superhans wrote:
In post 1904, Desperado wrote:
In post 1900, Superhans wrote:@ Desperado


That's not how it works. Must you make me repeat myself with every question you ask?

I didn't answer...

You didn't answer I mean

(I'll try and make less typos in future)

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Post Post #1913  (isolation #317)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:52 am

In post 1905, Realeo wrote:V/LA 24 hours

Potential confbias, need to wind out.

While I'm winding out, let me express my self.

The reason why I am having hard time to townread ThinkBig is those who townread TB, didn't explain why TB is town, considering D3 interaction.Most people who townread ThinkBig mentioning reasoning from D2 and not mention D3.

Since you didn't consider D3 interaction, your townread at ThinkBig is set at stone?

Is this for me?
I did revoke my town read on TB specifically because of his D3 content.

My town read on TB early D3 is in my ISO.

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Post Post #1914  (isolation #318)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:53 am

In post 1901, Realeo wrote:Out of topic. Superhans. Why you asked for an elevator pitch? I am still flustered.

Well if u want to lynch TB, pitch it to me.

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Post Post #1915  (isolation #319)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:55 am

In post 1902, Realeo wrote:To be more specific, I don't know what is your end goal for asking the elevator pitch. My impression is "for luls", but if you do it "for luls", why are you making a serious fuss on Desperado?

Not for luls at all.

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Post Post #1916  (isolation #320)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:58 am

@Realo is this the question that you're accusing TB of avoiding?
In post 1823, Superhans wrote:
In post 1663, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I am at right now:

Town: {Real, nydush}
Lean town: {Dunnestral}
Null: {Dave}
Scum: {Desperado, Superhans}

I am confident that there is a scum between desperado and Hans and would preferably like to lynch one of those today.


okay if there is one scum in
{Desperado, Superhans}
Who is the partner if it is:
Superhans

Who is the partner if it is:
Desperado

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Post Post #1921  (isolation #321)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:14 am

He has not spent the last 2 hours talking about ThinkBig, since early D2 he hasnt reiterated his case that much at all.
In post 1918, Realeo wrote:
In post 1914, Superhans wrote:
In post 1901, Realeo wrote:Out of topic. Superhans. Why you asked for an elevator pitch? I am still flustered.

Well if u want to lynch TB, pitch it to me.

Can I convince you to read Desperado's iso instead of asking him to make an evelator pitch?

Look at page 73, I pull out Desperados case (that he made in page 35 and page 36). I mean thats quite a while ago would you not agree? Thought by asking for an elevator pitch, he could accommodate for the 35 pages after his last post.

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Post Post #1922  (isolation #322)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:17 am

Also your comparison to political debates is silly. Politicians are always being asked absolutely enormous questions which they have to boil down into 30 second sound bites.

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Post Post #1930  (isolation #323)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:39 am

In post 1925, Realeo wrote:
In post 1924, Realeo wrote:Ah. So it's a case of bad word choice then. You shouldn't say the word Elevator Pitch since the connotation of "Elevator Pitch" is tell everything in short time (ie. "Tell me your startup idea in 30 seconds".) You should have said "Is there anything new or update about your read)


Does "Elevator Pitch" has a different meaning in U.K. Like "Your idea sounds interesting" means "Your idea sucks"

Serious question. I find UK's culture confusing.

No it's exactly the same meaning as the US. I wanted an elevator pitch, E.g. Desperado to be like I want to lynch TB for x, y and z.

Also I'd like to talk to you about Brexit for sure, but maybe not right now cos it'll probably clog up the thread - look forward to it post game ;)

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Post Post #1931  (isolation #324)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:41 am

Idk about TB and Desperado.

Thought Desperado was scum for trying to mis-lynched innocent TB, but now I'm not so sure.

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Post Post #1934  (isolation #325)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:49 am

In post 1926, davesaz wrote:
In post 1896, Superhans wrote:
In post 1889, davesaz wrote:[...]
I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt instead of power lynching you. I suggest you use that opportunity to up your game.

Lol I can see scum motivation in this post. Threatening Dunnstral for making a case on you. Id like to see you to go ahead and tell me how you'd power lynch Dunnstral.

No case can be made, because there is no possible scum motivation in anything I've posted.

Then why did you you say you'd give Dunnstral the benefit of the doubt instead of power lynching when there was no way to lynch Dunnstral anyway?

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Post Post #1935  (isolation #326)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:50 am

In post 1933, Realeo wrote:SH, I think either you are bad at estimating someone's patience or you are a really really really patient person in real life What do you for living?

Study.

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Post Post #1952  (isolation #327)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:18 pm

Davesaz who'dya think is scum?

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Post Post #1958  (isolation #328)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:31 pm

In post 1953, Desperado wrote:
In post 1910, Superhans wrote:So yeah, outside of me and Gb, who could be scum?


I don't entertain hypotheticals like that. There are two scum left, I don't need 3 scum reads

if i could undeniably prove that i were town, who would your 3rd scum read be?

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Post Post #2030  (isolation #329)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:20 am

In post 2004, Desperado wrote:I've just been consistently ignored since about the time regfan replaced in.

Maybe because you didn't sufficiently attempt to rebut Regfan argument. Please stop making yourself a victim.

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Post Post #2031  (isolation #330)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:50 am

I think that Davesaz is likely to be scum. His push on me feels forced. Think that his point on having nothing scummy in his ISO was really stupid and didn't like him suggesting to Dunnstral that he'd give him benefit of doubt rather than 'power lynching' him.

What even is power lynching btw, it's not in the wiki. I assume it means pushing someone into a lynch?

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Post Post #2035  (isolation #331)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:12 am

In post 1544, Desperado wrote:I still think Kop is real but any cache I had in this game evaporated a while ago so w/e

Kop must have delighted yesterday when you made such a passionate attempt to convince us he was town.

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Post Post #2036  (isolation #332)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:13 am

Desperado is not a bad plauet. I'm sure of that much. Played with him before.

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Post Post #2040  (isolation #333)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:18 am

In post 2037, Realeo wrote:
In post 2035, Superhans wrote:
In post 1544, Desperado wrote:I still think Kop is real but any cache I had in this game evaporated a while ago so w/e

Kop must have delighted yesterday when you made such a passionate attempt to convince us he was town.

Since British people are poetic and poem are enemy of foreign speaker, your point is?

I'm being sarky, I don't think Desperado did a very good job preventing Kops mislynch.

@desperado
D2 How sure exactly were u that Kop wasn't scum?

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Post Post #2042  (isolation #334)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:22 am

Link them m8 I must have missed them

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Post Post #2046  (isolation #335)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:23 am

Would like to see ur posts resisting the Kop wagon.
On phone rn so difficult to search ur ISO.

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Post Post #2053  (isolation #336)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:47 am

In post 0, grapes wrote:Players:
01. Superhans
02. Desperado MariaR
03. davesaz
04. ThinkBig
05. Kop
06. Dunnstral
07. Regfan algebra
08. Antihuman ReubenWasFine
09. ssbm_Kyouko
10. Realeo
11. Gamma Emerald
12. nydushermain Alisae Secret Agent Jin

Alive:
Spoiler:
Superhans
Desperado
davesaz
ThinkBig
Dunnstral
Regfan
Realeo
nydushermain

Dead:
Spoiler:
Antihuman (Mafia Traitor) was lynched Day 1.
ssbm_Kyouko (Vanilla Townie) was killed Night 1.
Kop (Roleblocker) was lynched Day 2.
Gamma Emerald (Goon Cop) was killed Night 2.

Flips:
Spoiler:

Deadline: (expired on 2017-02-04 21:45:02) (Day 3)

Yes I agree with the fact you did try pretty hard to defend Kop.

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Post Post #2054  (isolation #337)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:47 am

Didn't mean to quote that.

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Post Post #2055  (isolation #338)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:54 am

VOTE: ThinkBig

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Post Post #2057  (isolation #339)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:11 pm

search.php?author_id=28548&sr=posts

Don't comment on the content (not allowed to talk.about ongoing games etc) but look at the times.

TB y u lurking?

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Post Post #2059  (isolation #340)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:17 pm

TB has commented multiple times today <60mins before this post was made yet he hasn't commented for 1 day 22 hours.

TB u have a wagon ( the largest?) On you right now, this is.your time to be contributing to the max.

Only looked at TB activity cos there hasn't been a post from anyone for 12 hours.

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Post Post #2060  (isolation #341)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:19 pm

Y is it misreppy? Also I'm not explicitly saying that I think his lurking is scum indicatively. For the recorded I think it is NAI for now, but he needs to get in here.

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Post Post #2061  (isolation #342)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:19 pm

* indicative not indicatively

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Post Post #2063  (isolation #343)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:26 pm

In post 2062, ThinkBig wrote:Will post when I get home. Just needed to take a day off.

K no worries, although when you get home you do actually need to do what you've said you'll do.

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Post Post #2066  (isolation #344)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:32 pm

Self fulfilling prophecy mate.

Also I'm open to lynching a player who is proven scummier, Dunnstral still town reading you and so is Regfan (I think).

If you are town, the worst thing you could do would be to give up.

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Post Post #2067  (isolation #345)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:35 pm

Nooooo don't self hammer. If are town fight hard.

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Post Post #2068  (isolation #346)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:44 pm

@ Desperado who are your top Town reads? + Why?
(Excluding Regfan (obvs) and also Realo (to me he is as good as conf town) ).

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Post Post #2069  (isolation #347)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:51 pm

Also if u try and give me lip I'll fucking lose it.

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Post Post #2072  (isolation #348)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:20 am

In post 1955, davesaz wrote:
In post 1952, Superhans wrote:Davesaz who'dya think is scum?

I tend toward ThinkBig, but I'm worried about it being too easy.

And who is the partner? Who is.scum if TB flips town?

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Post Post #2073  (isolation #349)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:21 am

In post 1823, Superhans wrote:
In post 1663, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I am at right now:

Town: {Real, nydush}
Lean town: {Dunnestral}
Null: {Dave}
Scum: {Desperado, Superhans}

I am confident that there is a scum between desperado and Hans and would preferably like to lynch one of those today.


okay if there is one scum in
{Desperado, Superhans}
Who is the partner if it is:
Superhans

Who is the partner if it is:
Desperado

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Post Post #2075  (isolation #350)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:37 am

In post 1663, ThinkBig wrote:Here is where I am at right now:

Town: {Real, nydush}
Lean town: {Dunnestral}
Null: {Dave}
Scum: {Desperado, Superhans}

I am confident that there is a scum between desperado and Hans and would preferably like to lynch one of those today.

Also is this still valid? Only asking because there has been quite a bit of content since, and your reads may have updated.

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Post Post #2078  (isolation #351)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:39 am

In post 2074, Realeo wrote:Am I the only one who is not hard townreading nydush?

Ny seems kinda obvs town to me. Y r u not town reading?

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Post Post #2083  (isolation #352)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:13 am

lol Davesaz has less comments than Gamma, and Gamma lurked for like 50% of D2.

Sad.

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Post Post #2084  (isolation #353)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:14 am

obvs quality is more important than number of posts, but i don't think Dave has been producing anything of quality either.

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Post Post #2086  (isolation #354)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:25 pm

In post 2079, Realeo wrote:
In post 2078, Superhans wrote:
In post 2074, Realeo wrote:Am I the only one who is not hard townreading nydush?

Ny seems kinda obvs town to me. Y r u not town reading?

help? second opinion?

hmm what do you mean by this?

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Post Post #2087  (isolation #355)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:26 pm

DAVESAZ IF YOU CAN READ THIS PLEASE COME HOME
search.php?author_id=24574&sr=posts

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Post Post #2088  (isolation #356)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:27 pm

idk ur online
:z

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Post Post #2089  (isolation #357)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:27 pm

In post 2076, ThinkBig wrote:Once I get back home from synagogue, I'll update my reads.

how was the synagogue TB?

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Post Post #2090  (isolation #358)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:30 pm

Y
I S
T H E
G A M E
S O
V E R Y
D E A D?

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Post Post #2095  (isolation #359)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:00 am

In post 2072, Superhans wrote:
In post 1955, davesaz wrote:
In post 1952, Superhans wrote:Davesaz who'dya think is scum?

I tend toward ThinkBig, but I'm worried about it being too easy.

And who is the partner? Who is.scum if TB flips town?

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Post Post #2096  (isolation #360)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:01 am

First question most important, who is partner?

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Post Post #2098  (isolation #361)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:43 am

In post 2097, Desperado wrote:just sitting here

waiting to lynch scum

In the meantime you can answer my question for you:
Excluding Reg & Realo

Who r your top Town reads? + Y?

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Post Post #2105  (isolation #362)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:46 am

In post 2100, Realeo wrote:
In post 2098, Superhans wrote:
In post 2097, Desperado wrote:just sitting here

waiting to lynch scum

In the meantime you can answer my question for you:
Excluding Reg & Realo

Who r your top Town reads? + Y?

Didn't he answer it?

No he did not. Possible he missed it rather than deliberately choosing not to answer.

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Post Post #2108  (isolation #363)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:21 pm

Desperado you have nothing to quote. Answer the question for the first time.

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Post Post #2110  (isolation #364)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:25 pm

It's a possibility easy question which would take town like 20 seconds to do.

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Post Post #2111  (isolation #365)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:26 pm

Meant to say piss easy

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Post Post #2112  (isolation #366)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:26 pm

In post 2098, Superhans wrote:
In post 2097, Desperado wrote:just sitting here

waiting to lynch scum

In the meantime you can answer my question for you:
Excluding Reg & Realo

Who r your top Town reads? + Y?

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Post Post #2114  (isolation #367)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:33 pm

Lol ur actually struggling to fabricate an answer. I respect the amount of effort you're putting in to not answer a question that should really be uncontroversial.

VOTE: Desperado

You have definitely not mentioned who you think town is.

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Post Post #2115  (isolation #368)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:35 pm

Never =/= multiple times.

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Post Post #2118  (isolation #369)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:39 pm

In post 2113, Desperado wrote:1) I have stated multiple times what my reads are and why.
2) I'm not going to play your dumb game of "who is the top town outside of your real top town?" because all that does is benefit scum.

Point 2 contradicts point 1 loool.

If you aren't gonna reveal cos it helps scum, y have u already revealed your top Town reads multiple times already?

:lol: :lol: :giggle: :cool: :giggle: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #2119  (isolation #370)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:40 pm

In post 2117, Desperado wrote:You basically have two options. You can ISO me and ctrl+f "town" and then just see what you find. Or you can ctrl+f the player list individually and find my read on them that way.

Your call.

I'm on my phone can u do it for me?

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Post Post #2122  (isolation #371)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:44 pm

In post 2120, Desperado wrote:
In post 2118, Superhans wrote:If you aren't gonna reveal cos it helps scum, y have u already revealed your top Town reads multiple times already?


Wrong. I have stated who I think is town multiple times.

Top town reads = players you town read.

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Post Post #2123  (isolation #372)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:45 pm

I'm still waiting

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Post Post #2125  (isolation #373)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:53 pm

In post 2009, Regfan wrote:
In post 2005, Desperado wrote:Seriously Reg, I know you're reading my posts so why are you just making this shit up??? I have made substantial comments on every slot. I have good reasons for town and scum reading everyone alive. I told you guys Kop was real yesterday, and then the other claimed PR got shot. Literally nothing has changed from the middle of D2.

I don't see this reading your posts. I flat out don't.

You have made no mention of Nydus today and minimal mention of him yesterday.
You have made no real mention of Realeo today at all.
You have very little thoughts on Dunn out in the thread at the moment.
You have limited thoughts on Dave.

The only people I can agree you've elaborated somewhat into today is ThingBig & SuperHans.


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It's time to put your cards on the table. Where you at?

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Post Post #2126  (isolation #374)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:54 pm

In post 2112, Superhans wrote:
In post 2098, Superhans wrote:
In post 2097, Desperado wrote:just sitting here

waiting to lynch scum

In the meantime you can answer my question for you:
Excluding Reg & Realo

Who r your top Town reads? + Y?

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Post Post #2128  (isolation #375)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:59 pm

If nothings changed from pages of content then you're a shit player.

Also I'm on my phone so I need YOU to hmu with your multiple.town reads and completely undermine me ;)

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Post Post #2130  (isolation #376)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:03 pm

I think you're a good player (have said so previously) so I don't u derstand your motivation behind evading my very very basic question.

I don't buy that it's cos I hurt ur feelings.

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Post Post #2133  (isolation #377)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:09 pm

I only want ur town players.

I'll do mine in 20 seconds:
Dunnstral, cos his reads seem genuine
Ny, like the posts hes made today
Realo + Regfan obvs.

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Post Post #2135  (isolation #378)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:12 pm

In post 2132, Desperado wrote:The only reason you would need to know who my top town are outside of my top town is to help inform your nightkills.

Lol if I was gonna do that wouldn't I just log onto a PC and search ur ISO for your multiple town reads? You claim you've ready made all ur town reads and they're all within easy reach.

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Post Post #2137  (isolation #379)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:16 pm

In post 2113, Desperado wrote:1) I have stated multiple times what my reads are and why.
2) I'm not going to play your dumb game of "who is the top town outside of your real top town?" because all that does is benefit scum.

W H I C H
O N E?

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Post Post #2138  (isolation #380)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:17 pm

Top town read town read I don't fucking care. I didn't even know there was a difference and IV made it clear I don't think there is.

Who is town + y?

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Post Post #2140  (isolation #381)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:50 pm

Who do you think is town? Y?

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Post Post #2145  (isolation #382)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:56 pm

Ny and Dunnstral, can you see the value in knowing Desperados town reads? If so can you ask on my behalf.

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Post Post #2147  (isolation #383)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:01 pm

Ur both scummy AF, but ur not scum together.

Not that difficult to understand?

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Post Post #2176  (isolation #384)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:28 am

I like the town read Desperado made of Dunnstral, some very agreeable points. I didn't like the Davesaz's last comment saying that me asking that question to Desperado was scummy. Think your logic to scum read me is fairly contrived and I want you to know that I think you're most likely scum.

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In post 2076, ThinkBig wrote:Once I get back home from synagogue, I'll update my reads.

Don't say things like this if you don't actually end up doing so.
Why is Dunnstral scum? Who could be his partner?

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Post Post #2193  (isolation #385)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:27 pm

In post 2179, Realeo wrote:ThingBig - Dave
ThingBig - Dunnstral
ThingBig - Desperado
Dave - Dunnstral
Dave - Desperado
Dunnstral - Desperado

methink

I endorse this product (as you'd put it.)
Not so sure about the Dunnstral theories, haven't seen anything particularly scummy his ISO.

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Post Post #2195  (isolation #386)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:53 pm

Also y is ThinkBig Dave tean an impossibility?

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Post Post #2196  (isolation #387)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:04 pm

In post 2189, ThinkBig wrote:No. No one should self vote.

Be home in about two hours. Should respond more then

Dude u make more posts saying that you will post than actual legitimate posts.

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Post Post #2197  (isolation #388)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:18 pm

In post 2155, grapes wrote:DAY 3 VC 002

ThinkBig ( 2 ) - (Desperado, Realeo)
davesaz ( 1 ) - (Dunnstral)
Desperado ( 1 ) - (Superhans)

Not Voting ( 4 ) - (davesaz, ThinkBig, Regfan, nydushermain)


Five to lynch.
(expired on 2017-02-04 21:45:02) remain until deadline.

Half the playerbase haven't commited themselves to voting. Now is the time people (although make sure to check and double check if u may be L2/1

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Post Post #2247  (isolation #389)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:45 pm

In post 2244, Desperado wrote:Reg, I think we just read this game in fundamentally different ways.

How on earth does ThinkBig voting Dunnstral for bullshit while maintaining Antihuman as his #1 scum read point to them not being buddies? It was clear that he never believed in that Dunn vote and never planned on seeing it through anywhere. He even leaves Dunnstral out of his next post, a full reads list, and assigns his "scummy behavior" to me instead.

And before you say anything, I still think Dunnstral is town, I just think you have been making errors in your analysis all game and you aren't adjusting. This is two days in a row you've removed one of my scumreads from your scum pool entirely and I don't get.

Me?
Your push on me me is as hard as a wet noodle.

I agree that this game is in need to a flip but I don't think we should be rushing anything quite yet.

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Post Post #2248  (isolation #390)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:47 pm

In post 2245, davesaz wrote:At this point I don't give a fuck what you do. Lynch me if you'd like to, or lynch someone else. This game needs a flip, now.

Indignation station.

Really though what is the point in whining like a baby, it's not like you're even the biggest wagon and you're acting as though you're verging on giving up.

AtE, but I think you're appealing to the emotion of disgust rather than sympathy.

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Post Post #2249  (isolation #391)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:59 pm

In post 1957, davesaz wrote:I mean easy in the sense of obvious, not in the sense of no resistance.

Why is ThinkBig 'obvious', I'm finding greading TB far from obvious anything.

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Post Post #2255  (isolation #392)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:41 pm

In post 2253, davesaz wrote:What hes seeing is that im thoroughly disgusted that im even a topic of discussion. This is town me. There is so much difference between this and any game ive been scum that you must be blind to not see it. Either drop the subject of me scum, or lynch me and probably lose.

Dude u saying you're town doesn't make you town. Also your indignation is a huge turn off.

Try and solve the game genuinely if you don't want to be lynched.

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Post Post #2256  (isolation #393)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:44 pm

In post 2249, Superhans wrote:
In post 1957, davesaz wrote:I mean easy in the sense of obvious, not in the sense of no resistance.

Why is ThinkBig 'obvious', I'm finding reading TB far from obvious anything.

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Post Post #2257  (isolation #394)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:45 pm

Davesaz ansser my question

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Post Post #2258  (isolation #395)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:54 pm

Also Davesaz how would you feel with lynching Desperado? Happy? Sad?

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Post Post #2299  (isolation #396)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:55 am

I am pissed off that TB isn't answering questions....

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Post Post #2300  (isolation #397)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:57 am

Also fuck off with the whole 'top town read', I said that I just wanted town reads which he absolutely did not give me.

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Post Post #2306  (isolation #398)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:56 am

his town explanation of dunsntral was a result of Regfan, not me.
He completley disregarded me.

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Post Post #2312  (isolation #399)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:42 am

okay i have had up until now a fairly strong town read on Dunnstral. I've been aware that you've been making an extended argument on Dunnstral but haven't actually had a chance to properly evaluate what your claims are or whether they are valid. I will do so now, (maybe it'll take a little while though cos I may need to ISO you and also ISO Dunnstral), but I'll let you know what I think about it by tonight or by tomorrow night at the latest.

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