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Post Post #30  (isolation #0)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:38 pm

the more interracial sex we have the less interracial sex we can have
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Post Post #50  (isolation #1)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:05 pm

FYI the study that trump referenced when he made the 'mexicans are raping women on the way to america' comment was actually factually interpreted wrong

its actaully the coyotes, not the actually illegal immigrants, that are raping women in exchange for getting over the border
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Post Post #55  (isolation #2)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:17 pm

In post 52, Alchemist21 wrote:What are coyotes?


human smugglers

here is the source article where trump extrapolated and made the statement that:
When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.


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Post Post #58  (isolation #3)  » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:22 pm

the planet will survive... we wont

lol ur giving me flashbacks to the ignorant shit i had to sit through in sunday school
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Post Post #1226  (isolation #4)  » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:58 pm

its quite obvious he pulled her away pretty harshly, to deny that is delusion

on the flipside she is greatly exaggerating the extent of the damages caused and she also put 'FEET, FIST, TEETH' in addition to 'HANDS' on the Weapons / Tools section of the police report which says something about her
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Post Post #1577  (isolation #5)  » Thu May 05, 2016 1:28 pm

i'm voting for charles barkley
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Post Post #2060  (isolation #6)  » Fri May 13, 2016 8:55 am

p r i v i l e g e
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Post Post #2659  (isolation #7)  » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:49 am

trump rally in cbus hehe
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Post Post #3798  (isolation #8)  » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:24 pm

donald trump 6 months ago: i'm killing it in the polls

donald trump today: i don't believe the polls

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Post Post #3941  (isolation #9)  » Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:54 pm

In post 3937, kuribo wrote:I was gonna say I look forward to his post in the facebook group about how it isn't him and he happened to see another user accused of being him

And then my phone popped with a notification that he had posted in the group

Never change


ol got a message from a user who I won't name and they asked me if I was trolling the site right now. I'm not, but I checked it out and my god you moderators are so paranoid. Also, for the record I would never, even on a fake account, voice support for Hillary Clinton. If were trolling it probably would have said "Lololoolololololllolol, fuck Hillary!", or something like that. Anyway, just found this funny. Have a great day everypony.


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Post Post #3997  (isolation #10)  » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:37 am

In post 3943, Glork wrote:Shotty's biggest achievement in life is being a minor inconvenience in a tiny corner of the vast Internet.

Let that sink in for a moment.


i misread and thought you typed titty corner

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Post Post #5167  (isolation #11)  » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:14 am

In post 5164, Accountant wrote:
In post 5163, Shiro wrote:Well that has less to do with re education and more with cliche villain realises his wrong on his own

What's so different from a villain realizing he's wrong after a hero talks to him and shows him the error of his ways?


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Post Post #5485  (isolation #12)  » Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:53 am

i think we should unban shotty in celebration of a trump win
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Post Post #5711  (isolation #13)  » Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:07 am

problem is, both hospitals and insurance companies liked obamacare because they had more patients and premiums as a result... repealing will hard hit them both
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Post Post #6152  (isolation #14)  » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:14 am

In post 6147, Psyche wrote:
In post 6144, T S O wrote:
In post 6067, Psyche wrote:PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT A MUSLIM IMMIGRANT BAN:

Why not filter adherents to terrible cultural practices, but not using religious or geographic tests? The "good" muslims/middle-easterners you admit exist can still get in, and the rest will kept out. Like, it seems like a pretty easy compromise with the left that achieves exactly what you want. There are still some free speech issues, but it would much better odds to survive strict scrutiny.

What's the problem with this idea? And also importantly, why does this have to be proposed in the first place? If your passion for this issue is driven by sincere concern about your country's safety, why are we talking about banning muslims instead of about banning rapists, murderers and terrorists?


How exactly would you go about this cultural practice adherence test? It's certainly an interesting idea.

how would anyone go about a muslim ban


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Post Post #6157  (isolation #15)  » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:23 am

In post 6154, pisskop wrote:ptw

How can yall produce ~250 pages on trump? youve outcompeted a few political forums


I voted Trump, im glad he won, and i think so far were off to a great start. both in showing the assended nature of regressives and in what trump is cooing into our ears. of course, every elect has a soothing lullaby to sing...


Im not about to jump into a context i have no kbowledge of byt accountant has just managed to misrep a claim.


the forum is a bit left leaning and they seem salty every time someone mentions trump
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Post Post #6179  (isolation #16)  » Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:32 pm

i miss the old kayne
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Post Post #6188  (isolation #17)  » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:51 pm

In post 6185, pisskop wrote:Youre supposed to be grown up enough to accept that he beat her, fairly under our own laws, and perhaps the conduct of the whole country led to this.

While people were out getting equality for pumpkins he was promising to help the common man.


the problem i have is with the system is the republican controlled congress and their obstructionism for the entire 8 years of big-o's presidency

now liberals are just expected to 'accept' things
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Post Post #6190  (isolation #18)  » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:10 pm

except we've treated Obama basically as a lame duck for an entire year after Scalia's death due to R obstructionism. That is a whole new level
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Post Post #7669  (isolation #19)  » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:34 am

In post 7662, Accountant wrote:Yes yes the recounts are dumb


nah. its a party ideal to have clear and open election results
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Post Post #7672  (isolation #20)  » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:06 am

In post 7671, theplague42 wrote:
In post 7669, inte wrote:
In post 7662, Accountant wrote:Yes yes the recounts are dumb


nah. its a party ideal to have clear and open election results

:lol:


i mean honestly that would be like saying that gun control is dumb or pro-life is dumb

its a viewpoint that generally the party's constituents share.
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Post Post #7674  (isolation #21)  » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:15 am

In post 7673, theplague42 wrote:Oh I thought you were mocking Accountant's devotion to "ideals".


i honestly don't read his shit half the time. reeks of teenage angst. no offense meant accountant, i was the same way.
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Post Post #7686  (isolation #22)  » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:27 pm

In post 7677, Accountant wrote:
In post 7674, inte wrote:
In post 7673, theplague42 wrote:Oh I thought you were mocking Accountant's devotion to "ideals".


i honestly don't read his shit half the time. reeks of teenage angst. no offense meant accountant, i was the same way.

Before I address the other stuff, can I take a moment to ask inte how my posts are angsty?


its hard to explain but i think its mostly because you come off as if you were an authority in politics and social dynamics when mostly your opinions sound like you haven't talked to people much
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Post Post #7713  (isolation #23)  » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:18 pm

In post 7687, Accountant wrote:Oh my god I want to address all this in order but Showtime's latest post is so strawmanny and cringe inducing it's making it hard

its hard to explain but i think its mostly because you come off as if you were an authority in politics and social dynamics when mostly your opinions sound like you haven't talked to people much

I am not an authority in politics or social dynamics I am an authority in the way politics and social dynamics should work and you don't need to talk to people to know an answer as obvious as that.


In post 7712, Accountant wrote:
In post 7709, Showtime wrote:You have no means to impose your utopia. You have asserted that others will eventually come around to your way of thinking, until the entire world is perfect. Aside from the fact that your vision of a utopia is entirely subjective and very different from what, say, I would consider a utopia, you have no way of creating it other than hoping that everyone else behaves exactly like you want them to.

This will never happen, and your vision of utopia is so incredibly open to abuse that even one person thinking otherwise would cause incredible damage to the entire system due to your insistence on absolute obedience to authority.

You are deluded.

People will see the light eventually. That's a brute fact. Already we see the world moving more and more away from wrong values and towards right ones.

Why the fuck would there be abusive people in a utopia? That's a dumbass statement.


stuff like this is what i'm talking about btw
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Post Post #7992  (isolation #24)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:40 am

In post 7986, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 7875, karnos wrote:
In post 7864, xRECKONERx wrote:Speaking on a societal level, your family has had the chance to get ahead because your great grandparents/etc weren't put behind by being in slavery.

Yes, anecdotally, everyone has different stories. We're not talking anecdotally.


How do you know? Sure, in America black slaves were the main thing (although indentured servants were nearly as bad), but on a long enough timeline every race has had a turn.

Or are you using an arbitrary period of time to consider as relevant?

um what

"american history" isn't an arbitrary time period considering, you know, we're talking about american domestic policy and american history of slavery and american civil rights

jesus christ


my main problem with white american youth that thinks they have nothing to do with slavery and institutional racism is that they don't realize that the civil rights movement was 70 years ago where colored peoples education was purposely inferior in most areas of the country. thats 1 or 2 generations at max. it wasn't just peachy after the emancipation proclamation. they are still directly benefiting from this fact.

talk about rigged system. people still have living ancestors who remember that they had to fight for rights given to white people
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Post Post #7999  (isolation #25)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:21 am

In post 7993, karnos wrote:
In post 7992, inte wrote:
my main problem with white american youth that thinks they have nothing to do with slavery and institutional racism is that they don't realize that the civil rights movement was 70 years ago where colored peoples education was purposely inferior in most areas of the country. thats 1 or 2 generations at max. it wasn't just peachy after the emancipation proclamation. they are still directly benefiting from this fact.

talk about rigged system. people still have living ancestors who remember that they had to fight for rights given to white people


I said,
>Or are you using an arbitrary period of time to consider as relevant?

Why is "1 or 2 generations" such an important and valid number for you, but anything that occurred further in the past is irrelevant?


what are you even trying to tell me here. we're talking about american history, no? sure in the 1300s the mongols were raping and pillaging shit. but we aren't in china.

tu quoque and whataboutism isn't a valid argument. even if you're family is an immigrant family lets just say you're second generation. you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination
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Post Post #8003  (isolation #26)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:03 am

In post 8000, karnos wrote:
In post 7999, inte wrote:
what are you even trying to tell me here. we're talking about american history, no? sure in the 1300s the mongols were raping and pillaging shit. but we aren't in china.

tu quoque and whataboutism isn't a valid argument. even if you're family is an immigrant family lets just say you're second generation. you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination


>what are you even trying to tell me here. we're talking about american history, no?

No, we aren't.

> sure in the 1300s the mongols were raping and pillaging shit. but we aren't in china.

I also never owned a slave. If we are talking about our ancestors, both of us could have been affected by things going on at China.

>you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination

Based on what? What exactly do you know about me? I'll come right out and say it, I'm not black, but were you just assuming? How the hell do you think you know what benefits I am enjoying?

Two wrongs don't make a right. Blacks were treated poorly 70 years ago, that sucks. Mistreating whites now isn't going to change the past, nor is it going to improve the future. AA has some huge negatives. Companies hire based on quotients instead of qualifications, which leads to some unintended consequences. The only whites actually hired are REALLY at the top of their game, while marginal minority employees are hired just because of AA. The employees see this and it seems like the white employees are much more competent and skilled than the minority employees. It's making the situation worse, not better.


you have serious reading comprehension issues

also, its illegal to hire on a quota
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Post Post #8012  (isolation #27)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:54 am

In post 8000, karnos wrote:
In post 7999, inte wrote:
what are you even trying to tell me here. we're talking about american history, no? sure in the 1300s the mongols were raping and pillaging shit. but we aren't in china.

tu quoque and whataboutism isn't a valid argument. even if you're family is an immigrant family lets just say you're second generation. you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination


>what are you even trying to tell me here. we're talking about american history, no?

No, we aren't.

> sure in the 1300s the mongols were raping and pillaging shit. but we aren't in china.

I also never owned a slave. If we are talking about our ancestors, both of us could have been affected by things going on at China.

>you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination

Based on what? What exactly do you know about me? I'll come right out and say it, I'm not black, but were you just assuming? How the hell do you think you know what benefits I am enjoying?

Two wrongs don't make a right. Blacks were treated poorly 70 years ago, that sucks. Mistreating whites now isn't going to change the past, nor is it going to improve the future. AA has some huge negatives. Companies hire based on quotients instead of qualifications, which leads to some unintended consequences. The only whites actually hired are REALLY at the top of their game, while marginal minority employees are hired just because of AA. The employees see this and it seems like the white employees are much more competent and skilled than the minority employees. It's making the situation worse, not better.


>>what are you even trying to tell me here. we're talking about american history, no?

>No, we aren't.

In post 7992, inte wrote:my main problem with white american youth...


>> sure in the 1300s the mongols were raping and pillaging shit. but we aren't in china.

>I also never owned a slave. If we are talking about our ancestors, both of us could have been affected by things going on at China.

In post 7999, inte wrote:even if you're family is an immigrant family lets just say you're second generation. you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination



>>you still are reaping benefits of the suppression of blacks from before the civil rights era. even if you're young and a paragon of race relations you are still benefiting from other white peoples discrimination

>Based on what? What exactly do you know about me? I'll come right out and say it, I'm not black, but were you just assuming? How the hell do you think you know what benefits I am enjoying?

how did you even get to this conclusion? i said that you (assuming white american youth, refer back to my opening statement) are reaping the benefits of policies that suppress minorities. this is what i'm talking about when i mean you have serious reading comprehension issues

>Two wrongs don't make a right. Blacks were treated poorly 70 years ago, that sucks. Mistreating whites now isn't going to change the past, nor is it going to improve the future. AA has some huge negatives. Companies hire based on quotients instead of qualifications, which leads to some unintended consequences. The only whites actually hired are REALLY at the top of their game, while marginal minority employees are hired just because of AA. The employees see this and it seems like the white employees are much more competent and skilled than the minority employees. It's making the situation worse, not better.

see my response below.

In post 8007, karnos wrote:
In post 8003, inte wrote:
you have serious reading comprehension issues

also, its illegal to hire on a quota



LOL, I quoted you for every response and you can't explain what I got wrong, but I am the one with issues?!

And are you calling Affirmative Action illegal? I agree it should be, but it's still enforced in most areas.


affirmative action =/= quota. you have a fundamental misunderstanding of affirmative action if you think there are any enforced quotas. yes it is a valid criticism that certain entities will consider it a quota, but you are ignoring all of the others that specifically ignore minorities. its VERY hard to prove something like that, so much of it goes unnoticed.

>Blacks were treated poorly 70 years ago, that sucks

you have to have huge blinders on to think that we aren't feeling echos of decisions made 70 years ago
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Post Post #8026  (isolation #28)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:45 pm

In post 8016, karnos wrote:
In post 8012, inte wrote:
how did you even get to this conclusion? i said that you (assuming white american youth, refer back to my opening statement) are reaping the benefits of policies that suppress minorities. this is what i'm talking about when i mean you have serious reading comprehension issues


>Blacks were treated poorly 70 years ago, that sucks

you have to have huge blinders on to think that we aren't feeling echos of decisions made 70 years ago


Hmm. Cut out the duplicate and old crap and this is all I see.

See, your opening assumption was wrong. I read fine, but you shouldn't take my response to mean that I fall into your neat little category.

And yes, the modern day was arrived at through actions of the past. 70 years ago, 400 years ago, 1000 years ago, and even further back.

I keep asking you and you keep dodging: what is so special about recent American history? Why am I responsible for actions of people of my race 100 years ago, but you get a free pass on the actions of your ancestors 500 years ago? Seems like you are picking a very specific and arbitrary period of time to blame modern whites for.

In post 8012, inte wrote:affirmative action =/= quota. you have a fundamental misunderstanding of affirmative action if you think there are any enforced quotas. yes it is a valid criticism that certain entities will consider it a quota, but you are ignoring all of the others that specifically ignore minorities. its VERY hard to prove something like that, so much of it goes unnoticed.


"President Lyndon Johnson, an advocate for affirmative action, signed an Executive Order in 1965 that required government contractors to use affirmative action policies in their hiring to increase the number of minority employees."

A required increase. Sounds like a quota to me.


>Hmm. Cut out the duplicate and old crap and this is all I see.
>
>See, your opening assumption was wrong. I read fine, but you shouldn't take my response to mean that I fall into your neat little category.

if you were not a white american youth, my post was not directed at you. please re-read. the fact that you are just dismissing my response reenforces your lack of reading comprehension skills.

>And yes, the modern day was arrived at through actions of the past. 70 years ago, 400 years ago, 1000 years ago, and even further back.
>
>I keep asking you and you keep dodging: what is so special about recent American history? Why am I responsible for actions of people of my race 100 years ago, but you get a free pass on the actions of your ancestors 500 years ago? Seems like you >are picking a very specific and arbitrary period of time to blame modern whites for.

this just in, the beginning of america is arbitrary. don't you think that after we ratified a new constitution that can be considered a 'new age' in american history or so to speak? 500 years ago we could not institute racism in america (the fucking topic) because it did not exist. if you can name 1 instance of institutionalized racism against whites in any government 500 years ago, you can have a cookie

dude i agree over time impacts get lessened and lessened but just 150 years ago black people were literally property of whites in america. i am not saying you or your ancestors were owners of blacks but you are benefiting from policies that have suppressed blacks rights if you are white.

>"President Lyndon Johnson, an advocate for affirmative action, signed an Executive Order in 1965 that required government contractors to use affirmative action policies in their hiring to increase the number of minority employees."
>
>A required increase. Sounds like a quota to me.

Source: http://www.civilrights.org/resources/ci ... ction.html

Terms in the Debate

The debate over affirmative action has swirled around a cluster of highly charged words, the use of which sometimes obscures, rather than enlightens, the discussion. It is important to note that affirmative action may come into play as a remedy where discrimination is acknowledged or has been found to exist.

Affirmative action itself has been defined as "any measure, beyond simple termination of a discriminatory practice, adopted to correct or compensate for past or present discrimination or to prevent discrimination from recurring in the future." (U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Statement on Affirmative Action, October 1977.) Affirmative action means taking positive steps to end discrimination, to prevent its recurrence, and to creative new opportunities that were previously denied minorities and women.

An oft-used -- and deliberately misused -- term in the lexicon of affirmative action is "quotas." President George Bush, for example, in vetoing the Civil Rights Bill of 1991, labeled it "a quota bill," and opponents of affirmative action use the word as a general pejorative to taint all race-conscious remedies for discrimination. The courts, however, have provided a more accurate and precise definition: an absolute requirement that an employer hire a certain number of or percentage of employees from a specified group, without regard to the availability of qualified candidates or the presence of more qualified members of other groups. Such quotas are legally impermissible and are not a component of lawful affirmative action programs.

What affirmative action does sometimes involve is the establishment of a numerically expressed hiring goal, often in connection with a timetable. Indeed, as mentioned above, the Executive Order 11246 program covering federal contractors relies on the use of goals and timetables. Having established a goal, which is tied to the availability of qualified and available minority workers in the labor market, the employer pledges a "good faith" effort to achieve the goal within an aspirational timetable. Failure to achieve the goal, however, does not, in and of itself, subject the employer to sanctions unless the affirmative action has been judicially ordered as a remedy to illegal discrimination. "Goals," the Citizens' Commission on Civil Rights has observed, "serve as one measure of nondiscrimination and of the effectiveness of affirmation action efforts, not as a mandate for minority or female employment."
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Post Post #8028  (isolation #29)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:48 pm

fucking trump supporters. picking up what they want to hear, ignoring what they don't want to hear, and always arguing away from the actual points at hand
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Post Post #8039  (isolation #30)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:07 pm

In post 8030, karnos wrote:
In post 8026, inte wrote:An oft-used -- and deliberately misused -- term in the lexicon of affirmative action is "quotas." President George Bush, for example, in vetoing the Civil Rights Bill of 1991, labeled it "a quota bill," and opponents of affirmative action use the word as a general pejorative to taint all race-conscious remedies for discrimination. The courts, however, have provided a more accurate and precise definition: an absolute requirement that an employer hire a certain number of or percentage of employees from a specified group, without regard to the availability of qualified candidates or the presence of more qualified members of other groups. Such quotas are legally impermissible and are not a component of lawful affirmative action programs.

What affirmative action does sometimes involve is the establishment of a numerically expressed hiring goal, often in connection with a timetable. Indeed, as mentioned above, the Executive Order 11246 program covering federal contractors relies on the use of goals and timetables. Having established a goal, which is tied to the availability of qualified and available minority workers in the labor market, the employer pledges a "good faith" effort to achieve the goal within an aspirational timetable. Failure to achieve the goal, however, does not, in and of itself, subject the employer to sanctions unless the affirmative action has been judicially ordered as a remedy to illegal discrimination. "Goals," the Citizens' Commission on Civil Rights has observed, "serve as one measure of nondiscrimination and of the effectiveness of affirmation action efforts, not as a mandate for minority or female employment."


So it's a quota, but if you try to reach it and fail there isn't a severe penalty. That is nice, but it is still a quota.


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Post Post #8068  (isolation #31)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:26 pm

In post 8067, GreyICE wrote:
In post 8063, karnos wrote:
In post 8062, GreyICE wrote:Hey Karnos, you didn't read the link. The only thing to signal race on the resume was the name.

That was literally it.

Racists gonna be racists.


No, I read it.

You obviously didn't read my response, though.

I said very clearly: Nor should name

Hint: if name isn't on the form, racist can't be racist based on name.

If you are going to call out someone for not reading, you really should make fucking sure you actually read yourself.



Ah yes. So what happens when they go in to interview?

http://scholar.harvard.edu/files/boniko ... market.pdf

Oh. The same result.

Making the symptoms less visible doesn't stop the problem.


get out of here with your studies and facts. feelings are the only thing that matters
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Post Post #8082  (isolation #32)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:47 pm

muh free market
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Post Post #8086  (isolation #33)  » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:49 pm

In post 8080, karnos wrote:
In post 8076, GreyICE wrote:Why do people always spout the same "free market" bullshit? It's like suggesting "shouldn't magic fix this?"

Well first, obviously it isn't fixing this. So if the free market isn't fixing it, then the free market isn't fixing it. So if we pay attention to reality, we know for a fact that your theory is wrong.

So Karnos, why is your theory wrong? Why isn't the free market fixing it?


I already answered that. For someone who berated me about reading you really really suck at it.

"If you can prove it's happening, you can fix it."

Detect it, and lawsuits pave the way.

And yes I still didn't read your article, maybe it explains why it was able to prove that it happens but no lawsuits occurred? Or do they occur? Read your own source, please.


LOL "if i don't see it it doesn't happen"

literally the ignorant white man battle cry
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Post Post #8264  (isolation #34)  » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:42 am

In post 8258, Accountant wrote:
In post 8256, Davsto wrote:Wait why are they boycotting the wars of the stars?

https://cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.redd ... mp_js_v=6#


honestly for a supposed party thats not racist they constantly think about black men and their cocks fucking white women a lot
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Post Post #8354  (isolation #35)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:52 am

In post 8330, Garmr wrote:I think it would be better to abolish the Republican Party and start a center party. Then again with a center why would any sane person vote Democrats.


this implies something in the center of democrats and republicans is correct

thats not the case for most issues
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Post Post #8356  (isolation #36)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:51 am

climate change denial is objectively not correct and no in the middle negotiation will resolve the issue
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Post Post #8362  (isolation #37)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:44 pm

In post 8360, karnos wrote:Though it is interesting that Al Gore gets a free pass on lying, as a politician, while you will jump on every little thing that Trump writes that has yet to be proven to be 100% true.


because donald trump makes completely unsubstantiated claims constantly? and al gore hasn't been relevant in years other than a motivational speaker
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Post Post #8363  (isolation #38)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:10 pm

like specifically that Carrier bullshit where he literally said he saved 550 more jobs than he did
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Post Post #8382  (isolation #39)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:49 pm

In post 8380, Not_Mafia wrote:Accountant and Karnos are two sides of the same coin


cept one is MURRIKKKAn (angry patriotism) and the other is a regular ole authoritarian facist
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Post Post #8385  (isolation #40)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:52 pm

they would self-cannibalize because there can't be two bests and they both think they have the best logic
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Post Post #8386  (isolation #41)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:53 pm

i bet karnos is a flat earther
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Post Post #8391  (isolation #42)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:56 pm

NOT A SINGL
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Post Post #8405  (isolation #43)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:27 pm

EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY

GRAVITY IS JUST A THEORY
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Post Post #8410  (isolation #44)  » Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:50 pm

In post 8409, Davsto wrote:Man remember when game theory was funny and had actual really mathsy theories and calculations to find silly things like how effective the diamond armour in minecraft is or how much the hookshot would rip your arm out of its socket

Now it's all just mediocre, often "creepy", fan theories about plots of games and FNAF stuff and while that's all fine and good I miss the really silly mathsy and sciencey overanalysing of the Game Theorists as I remember it.


thanks, i didn't know about this phenomenon and now my day is ruined
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Post Post #8465  (isolation #45)  » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:46 pm

In post 8458, theplague42 wrote:Lol that's just a spin on "My best friend is black so I can't be racist."

People thought Trump was moderately racist because of past actions and words; the real concern was with the Bannon appointment, I think, not with Trump himself.



MY. FRIEND. IS. BLACK.

fuck all them other negroids tho. they stink
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Post Post #8546  (isolation #46)  » Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:00 pm

deplorables being cucked by russian cock and they don't even care
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Post Post #8583  (isolation #47)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 11:40 am

karnos has no legit rebuttals so he just bring some random shit up lol

thanks trump
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Post Post #8587  (isolation #48)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:41 pm

he prob lost a bet
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Post Post #8591  (isolation #49)  » Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:51 pm

In post 8590, Psyche wrote:the psyche has no corners
it is round like a firm buttock


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Post Post #8616  (isolation #50)  » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:44 pm

trumpatoos don't care they see putin as hard cock they want in their ass. pretty sad
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Post Post #8625  (isolation #51)  » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:16 pm

georgia? crimea? ukraine? war crimes in aleppo by assad and putin's forces?

and we're just gonna be like 'heh, doesn't look like anything to me' with this new administration
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Post Post #8628  (isolation #52)  » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:23 pm

not nothing? i mean repairing relations with russia is not a bad thing, but letting them dick anything they want and sweeping it under the carpet seems far worse
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Post Post #8691  (isolation #53)  » Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:09 pm

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Post Post #8705  (isolation #54)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:52 am

In post 8697, Garmr wrote:No offence but even if Russia had ties with Donald trump didn't hillary have ties with Saudi Arabia and quatar as they spent money to help fund her campaign.


In post 8698, Fluminator wrote:They've donated to the Clinton foundation before. They haven't actively spent money on her campaign though from what I understand. She is in favor of being allied with them for some strange reason (which I'm sure has nothing to do with them donating to the foundation)
When they donated to the foundation though, it became a top priority for secretary Clinton to deliver weapons to Saudi Arabia. http://www.state.gov/t/pm/rls/rm/149749.htm (I'm sure it had nothing to do with the donation though)
And the fact that they're allied with Saudi Arabia and Qatar just shows how hypocritical they are about the environment and human rights. Poor Yemen.


In post 8699, karnos wrote:Whats damning to me isn't just all the foreign donations that the Clinton Foundation has received, but the fact that they ceased as soon as she lost the election.


"b-b-b-but what about shillary!!!!!"

she lost, get over it. hillary clinton cannot be used as a deflector anymore
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Post Post #8712  (isolation #55)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:49 am

did karnos foe me or does he legitimately have nothing to defend his awful statements?
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Post Post #8718  (isolation #56)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:04 am

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Post Post #8737  (isolation #57)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:30 pm

In post 8734, Garmr wrote:Accountant is to entertaining to mute


agreed. karnos is just a cocksucker so i had to do it to him
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Post Post #8755  (isolation #58)  » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:26 pm

is that an actual stance you're taking, or are you being contrarian?
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Post Post #9399  (isolation #59)  » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:05 pm

misleading with your words and then saying 'well actually...' is dishonest
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Post Post #9514  (isolation #60)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:19 pm

In post 9504, Psyche wrote:"white privilege" isn't a buzzword


sad the fact that white people are treated as better people by default in america really confuses the average whitey
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Post Post #9515  (isolation #61)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:24 pm

i imagine every time they're confronted with reality they do the tim allen grunt 'whhhuuuuaaaa?? it makes it slightly more humorous
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Post Post #9519  (isolation #62)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:42 pm

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Post Post #9516 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:39 pm

its sad that my fellow 'whities' are willing to hobble themselves because popular culture said to.

tragic that academia pushes the same drivel and tries to pass subpar performance as the new standard average.

maybe if the MWASPS stop trying to make the world a better place the underperforming filth can produce.

how disguisting.

teleological philosophy until it suits you to do otherwise.
Meritocracy until its time to earn brownie points with the man.
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Unread post Post #9517 (ISO) » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:42 pm

the march of progress goes on ...

remember when you cant make the chafe perform like the cream you make the cream like the chafe.

when you cant raise the lower class you destroy the upper
thats how you get equality.


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all buzzwords

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Post Post #9525  (isolation #63)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:47 pm

S T R A W M A N
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Post Post #9527  (isolation #64)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:49 pm

i find that white people like to try to debate definitions and are wrong rather than confront the actual meaning of the words they say

i had a good friend argue with me for a good while when i was telling him that white nationalism is not a good thing for this country. hes like 'well im white and a nationalist so im a white nationalist, whats so wrong with that???'
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Post Post #9528  (isolation #65)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:50 pm

oh now i remember how it started, it started with my saying that bannon brings white nationalism to mainstream light and gives legitimacy to it
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Post Post #9535  (isolation #66)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 2:59 pm

how about instead of calling it white privilege call it 'colored unprivelege' so we can spare some whitey feelings
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Post Post #9547  (isolation #67)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:15 pm

In post 9545, Psyche wrote:like, i got my belief that this happens by reading about studies in the news
where did your belief that it does not happen come from?
it would really help me and lots of people in this thread find your position more agreeable if you could show us where


LOL proof? Thats reverse racism
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Post Post #9548  (isolation #68)  » Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:15 pm

ok im done xd
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Post Post #9566  (isolation #70)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:26 am

In post 9565, pisskop wrote:
In post 9561, Kublai Khan wrote:Progressives want a truer meritocracy. Fully qualified people shouldn't lose out on opportunity because of the color of their skin. It doesn't mean that you have to hobble yourself and let someone slower have your place in line. All you need to do is just make sure you aren't the type of person who is letting slower white people cut in line.

Im pretty on board with this sure.



yet you don't take two minutes to figure out what affirmative action actually does

yeah right
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Post Post #9582  (isolation #72)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:43 am

In post 9570, shaft.ed wrote:
In post 9568, pisskop wrote:better question: why is money being spent on finding this inherit advantage, should it exist, instead of curing AIDs or Cancer or helping the poor.
And we have a deflection!

ok who predicted deflection?
you win all the prizes!


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Post Post #9596  (isolation #73)  » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:22 am

genocide genocide genocide

why people keep talking about it? just educate people to stop systematically eradicating different groups of people. stop genobaiting me scrub
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Post Post #10250  (isolation #74)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:22 pm

lurker sounds like a cuck
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Post Post #10359  (isolation #75)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:32 am

trump supporters.

really loud but don't actually know shit xxxddd. theres tons of fake screenshots on 4chan, you should know better than to get your information from them
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Post Post #10363  (isolation #76)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:42 am

In post 10361, chamber wrote:I mean, the issue more than anything else is that they published it without proper confirmation right? That's an issue even if it was ultimately true.


they also loudly stated that these are unverified and potentially unverifiable claims
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Post Post #10395  (isolation #77)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:28 pm

he obviously frequents the donald which is literally an offshoot of 4chan pol (same memes and 4chan speak) so i don't expect him to critically read anything when they unironically have n* hate threads and shit on the (((globalists)))
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Post Post #10488  (isolation #78)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:31 pm

If it doesn’t fit, you must acquit
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Post Post #10634  (isolation #79)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:43 pm

In post 10628, Psyche wrote:
In post 10625, karnos wrote:
In post 10622, Davsto wrote:Ahahahahahaha using the daily mail as if it's a legitimate source ahahahahahaha you tickle me in so many ways, none of them right



Attacking the Person (argumentum ad hominem). Definition: The person presenting an argument is attacked instead of the argument itself.

LMGTFY:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Maria+L ... e&ie=UTF-8

Ohhhh man. Someone call the emergency room, Davsto just got BURNED!

karnos is the kind of person who thinks these posts are exceptionally clever


he also legitimately doesn't know what ad hominem actually is

saying a rag like dailymail or breitbart is not a reputable source is not ad hominem lol
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Post Post #10636  (isolation #80)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:50 pm

In post 10635, Untrod Tripod wrote:it is however a bad argument to dismiss a news item out of hand because a source is openly partisan

the political leaning of the Daily Mail has no bearing on whether or not the attack actually happened


agreed. their habit of grossly exaggerating events and sometimes outright lying, however, does have bearing on whether the facts are actually presented correctly
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Post Post #10649  (isolation #81)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:46 pm

its so sad watching karnos post because he can't put two ideas together but at the same time interesting because he can completely sidestep any rational criticism without effort
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Post Post #10683  (isolation #82)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:00 pm

In post 10654, karnos wrote:
In post 10634, inte wrote:
he also legitimately doesn't know what ad hominem actually is

saying a rag like dailymail or breitbart is not a reputable source is not ad hominem lol


It absolutely is, against the article. Davsto attacked the character of the source rather than the actual substance of the article.

I can see that from the narrow viewpoint that Davsto isn't attacking me it's not an ad hominem attack against me, but that was never what I meant. It's still a fallacy, whether it's used against me or the news website.


not everything is a debate. saying daily mail is a shit source is not an argument against anything except daily mail and he in no way tried to present any other points while you cried ad hominem erroneously
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Post Post #10687  (isolation #83)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:05 pm

In post 10680, Lurker wrote:
In post 10381, Psyche wrote:i just don't think karnos would be singing this tune if the unverified claims were about, say, a child sex ring in a boston pizza parlor


I've been to the Voat where the current investigation is going on.

It's a war zone down there.


oh you mean neo-4chan where literal pedos, racists, misogynists flocked to in 'protest' so they wont be 'censored' by the librul platform that is reddit.

xxxxxdddddddddddd i would totally take anything there seriously
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Post Post #10690  (isolation #84)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:07 pm

In post 10686, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 10678, karnos wrote:Of course it's still pretty laughable even if confirmed.

*sigh*

Let's play pretend. How outraged would you be if this happened to an Obama cabinet pick?

In post 10679, karnos wrote:Those emails were 100% verified legit. The only attack on them was that "the Russians hacked them", i.e. they aren't even denying the corruption, they are just blaming the Russians for revealing the corruption.

As opposed to the fake dossier made by some 4chan regulars. Ah yes, excellent comparison. Is that the best you can do?

The salaciousness of the contents of the emails were exaggerated by your trusted sources to the point where a karnos-level idiot attacked a pizza company.

And the "4chan regulars" who took credit were proven liars since reports about the existence of the documents preceded their bragging about creating it.


its honestly quite funny how people take anything from 4chan seriously when literally it says

"The stores and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact".

"haha i tTOOOTALLLY HACKED THE CIA"
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Post Post #10691  (isolation #85)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:11 pm

In post 10688, Sesq wrote:
inte wrote:
In post 10680, Lurker wrote:
In post 10381, Psyche wrote:i just don't think karnos would be singing this tune if the unverified claims were about, say, a child sex ring in a boston pizza parlor


I've been to the Voat where the current investigation is going on.

It's a war zone down there.


oh you mean neo-4chan where literal pedos, racists, misogynists flocked to in 'protest' so they wont be 'censored' by the librul platform that is reddit.

xxxxxdddddddddddd i would totally take anything there seriously


Reddit censorship DOES happen. Doesn't make voat any less of a shithole


thats the point tho. did you actually go to coontown or creepshots? only degenerates would have associated themselves with either of those subreddits. i'm not saying reddit is a paradise now, but straight up voat is 4chan-esque
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Post Post #10696  (isolation #86)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:31 pm

>stupid shit happens because of me
>"FALSE FLAG!"

>stupid shit happens because of someone else
"DAMNING EVIDENCE! Sad!"

kek

In post 10695, Sesq wrote:I'm not talking about them deleting subreddits like that, I'm talking about the stuff that gets posted to places such as /r/undelete. I have no problem with some creepshot place not being around.


the point i was making is that most of the makup of voat are out of touch with life degenerates who would believe in some crazy shit like pizzagate and an armed gunman showed up. its the status quo for losers like that

shit that hits undelete is mostly partisan drama and treating it true journalism is pretty naive at this point
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Post Post #10721  (isolation #87)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:34 am

In post 10711, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 10708, Lurker wrote:
In post 10707, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 10705, karnos wrote:Like I said, it doesn't matter. It's a false flag attack. It's a nutjob who beleives all the conspiracy theories. Either way makes no difference to me.

Another dodge.

The question is: do YOU believe conspiracy theories? Are YOU able to differentiate between a conspiracy theory and reality?


Just remember: There's a conspiracy theory about the phrase "Conspiracy theory". To a true believer, this won't faze them.

I don't think karnos is a "true believer". He's just dishonest. He'll collect "facts" like Welch's job to throw in someone's face just so they have to use their time and energy to investigate and inevitably refute. I have no idea how much of his own bullshit he believes. This is just a game that he loses everyday.


The epitome of the "HMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK" pol meme
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Post Post #10733  (isolation #88)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:39 am

'zomg'
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Post Post #10734  (isolation #89)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 9:40 am

more """HMM REALLY MAKES YOU THINK""" rhetoric haha this is getting predictable
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Post Post #10741  (isolation #90)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:09 am

In post 10740, karnos wrote:Image

Independent unbiased fact checking.


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Post Post #10743  (isolation #91)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:16 am

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Post Post #10744  (isolation #92)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:16 am

weird that didn't work for me xd
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Post Post #10775  (isolation #93)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:35 pm

>sketchy ad on hooker website without any real info
>its not confirmed fake so we gotta treat it as real

>unverified/able dossier from informants passed around capitol hill and floating around intelligence agencies
>FAKE NEWS - DEBUNKED

cucked again
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Post Post #10778  (isolation #94)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:39 pm

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Post Post #10788  (isolation #95)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:24 pm

i don't think that the death penalty thing is not really a contradiction because there can be cases where there is almost 100% certainty and especially heinous crimes (dylann roof for example) but be against it in most cases. the real hardline is deciding where it stops
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Post Post #10792  (isolation #96)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:57 pm

In post 10790, Sesq wrote:
In post 10784, theplague42 wrote:I recommend both of you check out this link some time. Your labels and categories don't make sense.


I know the labels aren't actually correct dictionary-wise, but then again the dictionary does have feminism as an equality movement, sooo....

it begins


can we be honest with ourselves? there is definitely a distinction between a definition and then the practice of the definition

feminism is supposed to be an equality movement but because there really aren't any barriers to entry that it can be hijacked by detractors
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Post Post #10793  (isolation #97)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:59 pm

people who get hung up on the definition of words are almost as bad as people who are ignorant as to what they mean

pretty fucking stupid to conflate liberals with authoritarians (control left) tho
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Post Post #10796  (isolation #98)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:17 pm

(((globalist)))

oi vey goyim
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Post Post #10797  (isolation #99)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:17 pm

literally a pol meme spouter
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Post Post #10803  (isolation #100)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:15 pm

In post 10801, Accountant wrote:
In post 10764, kuribo wrote:The cops can't prove I did it because I have an alibi. So, they never convict me.

Did I still do something wrong? Am I still a violent menace to society? By your logic, no. I'm not. I deserve to be called innocent because I managed to avoid justice.

If that happened Jane and Joe Busybody on the internet have no right to spread vicious rumors that you are a thug, whether or not it is true.


But what if they evaluate the facts and believe it to be true? Is it still a vicious rumor?
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Post Post #10805  (isolation #101)  » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:19 pm

p i z z a g a t e
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Post Post #10827  (isolation #102)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:56 am

lmao radfem "poison m&m" rhetoric
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Post Post #10837  (isolation #103)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:13 am

nope
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Post Post #10842  (isolation #104)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:21 am

In post 10829, chamber wrote:Illegal immigration laws ARE largely enforced. Can you provide instances where they are radically ignored, or ways in which they could be improved without massive cost (See a wall).



http://www.snopes.com/obama-deported-more-people/

ICE and Border Patrol budget doubled while he was in office

tell me more how he was soft on illegal immigrants

he also just ended the wet foot dry foot policy for cubans 6 days ago
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Post Post #10844  (isolation #105)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:25 am

In post 10843, karnos wrote:He didn't build a wall.


people talk about fiscal responsibility but people keep advocating for one of the most stupid fiscal proposals in the history of the united states
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Post Post #10848  (isolation #106)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:36 am

In post 10847, karnos wrote:
In post 10844, inte wrote:
In post 10843, karnos wrote:He didn't build a wall.


people talk about fiscal responsibility but people keep advocating for one of the most stupid fiscal proposals in the history of the united states


People sitting around not working is better than giving them a job to do?

Building the wall is a low-skill job, will employ a LOT of people. The money spend to build it is just going to flow right back into the economy. It's win-win.


fine if you look at it as more of a jobs program

though low skill labor position.... hmmmm sounds like something americans find themselves above and mostly immigrant mexicans do. totally sounds like we have a major workforce ready for this
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Post Post #10862  (isolation #107)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:12 pm

In post 10861, Annadog40 wrote:Yes. I bought out the country last Tuesday.


wow bussiness is booming
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Post Post #10864  (isolation #108)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:19 pm

In post 10863, Maestro wrote:
In post 10854, karnos wrote:Something doesn't have to be 100% effective to be worthwhile.

ACA?


no thats for librul cucks
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Post Post #10909  (isolation #109)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:29 am

https://mobile.twitter.com/keithboykin/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AMIRITE
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Post Post #10910  (isolation #110)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:36 am

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Post Post #10915  (isolation #111)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:14 pm

the dossier is real, what is outlined in the dossier is unverified, or potentially false

fake news means completely manufactured. we know that christopher steele provided the documents which means they are real, but doesn't mean they are true

honestly karnos i hope your roof sucks
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Post Post #10916  (isolation #112)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:17 pm

real sad that you have to explain things to trump supporters like they're a 2nd grader
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Post Post #10919  (isolation #113)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:46 pm

In post 10917, karnos wrote:
In post 10915, inte wrote:the dossier is real, what is outlined in the dossier is unverified, or potentially false

fake news means completely manufactured. we know that christopher steele provided the documents which means they are real, but doesn't mean they are true

honestly karnos i hope your roof sucks


Are you real?

Nobody thinks the document doesn't exist, it was posted in entirety on the buzzfeed website. Fake doesn't mean it doesn't exist, fake means it's not a real intelligence document. It's fake. Made-up. Not real news.

Come on now, when some pro-trump news comes out and you call it fake news, you wouldn't retract that claim if someone pointed out: "no it's not fake, it's a right here on this website, see totally real (but it might not be true)".

No F that. Everyone knows that fake means false, untrue, illegitimate. Nobody claimed the document didn't exist, that isn't what was meant by fake.

Nice try.


are you denying that christopher steele doesn't exist, or he isn't a real ex-intelligence source, or that he completely fabricated it, or what? what is your supporting evidence that it is not a real document? you've not said one thing that would actually convince someone that it shouldn't be believed or taken seriously. you just keep yelling "WAAA FAKE FAKFKAE FAKFAKFKE FAKE FAKE" like a fucking baby

just that it was only reported on by buzzfeed? didn't you just try to claim ad hominem when we were saying that dailymail is shit?
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Post Post #10920  (isolation #114)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:47 pm

still nothing of substance from karnos at all
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Post Post #10926  (isolation #115)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:35 pm

In post 10922, karnos wrote:
In post 10919, inte wrote:
are you denying that christopher steele doesn't exist, or he isn't a real ex-intelligence source, or that he completely fabricated it, or what? what is your supporting evidence that it is not a real document? you've not said one thing that would actually convince someone that it shouldn't be believed or taken seriously. you just keep yelling "WAAA FAKE FAKFKAE FAKFAKFKE FAKE FAKE" like a fucking baby

just that it was only reported on by buzzfeed? didn't you just try to claim ad hominem when we were saying that dailymail is shit?


So are you now saying you think it's real?

It's not fake because it was posted on buzzfeed, it's fake because it's made up and provably false.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586

[Ironic thing being NBC News owns a portion of Buzzfeed, lol.]

"A 35-page memorandum published by BuzzFeed on Tuesday includes claims that the Russian government has been cultivating, supporting and assisting Trump for five years — even obtaining compromising information in an effort to blackmail him. (BuzzFeed is partially funded by the parent company of NBC News.) The document, which was not prepared by the U.S. government, contains obvious errors. It was originally generated as part of opposition research by anti-Trump Republicans and then shopped by Democrats."

Fake, in every possible way. Are you still going to try to deny that and make yourself look an even bigger fool? Be my guest...


why did you come to the conclusion that it is fake? noway does anything you quoted or anything in the article disprove christopher steele or his credibility or the credibility of the dossier? that article was published before his name was public btw

does the fact its part of oppo research indicate that the contents are false?

what is the proof or even supporting evidence that it was "shopped by Democrats" as the NBC article claims?

lets go back to buzzfeed's original article

Buzzfeed wrote:The document was prepared for political opponents of Trump by a person who is understood to be a former British intelligence agent. It is not just unconfirmed: It includes some clear errors


NBC article doesn't tell me anything new

all the article tells me is that two senior officals (Trump's Chief of Staff and Kellyanne Conway) say he wasn't made aware of the dossier during a briefing with the intelligence agencies

again, where is the proof evidence that this dossier is 'completely fabricated' or 'fake news'? please explain to me how its 'provably false'
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Post Post #10928  (isolation #116)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:37 pm

also, don't strawman me

In post 10915, inte wrote:the dossier is real, what is outlined in the dossier is unverified, or potentially false
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Post Post #10935  (isolation #117)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:01 am

its honestly going to be rough as we're competing with emerging markets for jobs. the main reason ford is making factories in mexico is not mostly for import, its for the domestic market.
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Post Post #10957  (isolation #118)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:26 pm

against karnos displaying that hes intellectually dishonest haha so sad
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Post Post #10971  (isolation #119)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:38 pm

In post 10960, karnos wrote:
In post 10915, inte wrote:the dossier is real, what is outlined in the dossier is unverified, or potentially false

fake news means completely manufactured. we know that christopher steele provided the documents which means they are real, but doesn't mean they are true


"fake news means completely manufactured."

"we know that christopher steele [manufactured] the documents which means they are real, but doesn't mean they are true"

Fixed that for you. Hope you realize just how you are contradicting yourself.


do you realized that provided does not equal manufactured in this context? so fucking dishonest

now provide your proof that christopher steele faked the documents. you literally wrote "it's fake because it's made up and provably false."

where is the proof? or does proof mean nothing to you and you just feel that its fake? whaa my feelings are hurt :((((((
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Post Post #10972  (isolation #120)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:41 pm

trump supporters spit out dishonesty as quick as trump does lmao. fucking typical
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Post Post #10981  (isolation #121)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:25 pm

In post 10977, karnos wrote:
In post 10971, inte wrote:
do you realized that provided does not equal manufactured in this context? so fucking dishonest

now provide your proof that christopher steele faked the documents. you literally wrote "it's fake because it's made up and provably false."

where is the proof? or does proof mean nothing to you and you just feel that its fake? whaa my feelings are hurt :((((((


Are you saying it's all true? You are being so wishy-washy. Your own posting reveals how you know it's a fake, you refuse to take a stand and say it's all real legit true information.

Why should I bother doing the work to prove it wrong when even you yourself seem to be admitting it's wrong? If you want to take a hard stance I'll gladly destroy you.


i'm asking for your proof when you asserted "it's fake because it's made up and provably false." because you're making an illogical leap of faith to automatically dismiss anything thats negative about your god emporer

i have never pretended to assert that it is either true or false. i have only stated the facts of which you ignore
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Post Post #10982  (isolation #122)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:29 pm

or don't or whatever. keep fighting your strawman i don't really have any skin in this game other than to make you look more like an idiot
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Post Post #10983  (isolation #123)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 6:32 pm

In post 10979, Psyche wrote:the same stupid dance


while frustrating trying to explain logic to a child, i'm actually having fun
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Post Post #11014  (isolation #124)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:47 pm

karnos i hope you get the help you need
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Post Post #11111  (isolation #125)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:10 pm

In post 11102, Sesq wrote:
In post 11101, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 11100, Sesq wrote:authoritarian?

where?

"Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before spreading to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum."


No, what has he said that's fascist?

This is the stupidest accusation I've heard of him thus far. He looks to have a libertarian bias.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/2 ... of-Fascism
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Post Post #11119  (isolation #126)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:32 pm

In post 11117, Accountant wrote:I have a particularly low tolerance for people who try to justify their own incorrectness by hiding behind a flimsy notion of human rights and freedoms today. Maybe I woke up on the wrong side of the bed.


human rights and freedoms are categorically correct
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Post Post #11324  (isolation #127)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:45 am

In post 11257, theplague42 wrote:False and fake are not the same word.


its so funny his comprehension is so low he can't understand this lol
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Post Post #11325  (isolation #128)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:11 am

In post 11322, kuribo wrote:
In post 11298, karnos wrote:
In post 11297, kuribo wrote:I mean okay so she's an idiot


It doesn't change the fact that hundreds of thousands of women hate trump enough to stand outside and protest

Her having stupid views doesn't mean those people didn't show up or even mean those women agree with her


Because, and this may be a shock


You don't have to agree with every single view held by a public figure to agree with them


Since you seem to be such an expert on it, let me ask you:

What was the goal of the march?

Because seems to me that they had zero actual demands, zero goals in mind, and they just wanted to make a lot of noise and trash our city.


You sure are making a lot of assumptions about my position

I don't recall making any statement supporting the March, only that it being organized by an idiot is irrelevant


PICK A SIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!! EITHER THE MARCH WAS REAL OR IT WAS FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Post Post #11327  (isolation #129)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:05 am

In post 11326, theplague42 wrote:
In post 11325, inte wrote:EITHER THE MARCH WAS REAL OR IT WAS FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Would the march be considered fake if it was funded by George Soros?


no, it would be double plus un real

shouldn't confuse conservatives
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Post Post #11331  (isolation #130)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:32 am

DO YOU SUPPORT THE MARCH OR IS IT FAKE???!~?!?!?!?!?!!!11
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Post Post #11333  (isolation #131)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:43 am

In post 11330, karnos wrote:
In post 11324, inte wrote:
In post 11257, theplague42 wrote:False and fake are not the same word.


its so funny his comprehension is so low he can't understand this lol


Trump said fake. KK said "not fake". I said fake. Nobody said false, so what is your fucking point?

Are you also in the business of lying?


In post 10922, karnos wrote:It's not fake because it was posted on buzzfeed, it's fake because it's made up and provably false.


LOL caught in a lie

Are you also in the business of lying?
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Post Post #11334  (isolation #132)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:47 am

p r o v a b l y f a l s e
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Post Post #11335  (isolation #133)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:47 am

karnos BTFO
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Post Post #11348  (isolation #134)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:45 pm

karnos backpeddaling BTFO when caught in lie LMAO
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Post Post #11350  (isolation #135)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:47 pm

In post 11339, karnos wrote:
In post 11333, inte wrote:
In post 11330, karnos wrote:
In post 11324, inte wrote:
In post 11257, theplague42 wrote:False and fake are not the same word.


its so funny his comprehension is so low he can't understand this lol


Trump said fake. KK said "not fake". I said fake. Nobody said false, so what is your fucking point?

Are you also in the business of lying?


In post 10922, karnos wrote:It's not fake because it was posted on buzzfeed, it's fake because it's made up and provably false.


LOL caught in a lie

Are you also in the business of lying?


Man, you are really bad at this.

Can you see the post numbers?

Hint: post 10922, post 11257

Maybe you aren't a math wizard, so I guess it could be an honest mistake, but 11257 doesn't come immediately after 10922. In fact, it's not even close. Not even on the same page, nor one page away. theplague42's post doesn't quote any of mine, nor does it include a link to 10922 or any other post.

Basically, I see what you did there. You went through the previous 300 posts, desperately searching for one where I used the word false.

Except, even for all your stupid effort, you still failed. You see, in post 10922, while I did use the word false, I ALSO used the word fake.

Fake still means fake, idiot.


you said its fake because its provably false but yet haven't been able to prove it? haha so many lies its hard to keep track of them huh
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Post Post #11359  (isolation #136)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:57 pm

In post 11353, karnos wrote:
In post 11350, inte wrote:
you said its fake because its provably false but yet haven't been able to prove it? haha so many lies its hard to keep track of them huh


Yep, that is right. You got owned back then 300 posts back and you still don't even understand how.


it was 4 days ago on friday. some people have social lives outside of an internet forum on the weekends

are you so senile that you can't remember your lies from 4 days ago?
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Post Post #11360  (isolation #137)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:00 pm

karnos admits that #pissgate is not false lmao
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Post Post #11374  (isolation #138)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:20 pm

THIS JUST IN

karnos lying again
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Post Post #11385  (isolation #139)  » Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:19 pm

maybe if you had any thoughts that weren't garbage you might say something coherent
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Post Post #11438  (isolation #140)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:19 pm

you're honestly retarded if you don't see that abortions are massively more fiscally responsible than any "pro-life" stance. i say that because nobody who claims they are pro life actually cares about people after they are born
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Post Post #11439  (isolation #141)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:20 pm

especially when infrastructure isn't provided for like roads and schools and they can't handle the amount of growth. then u get shit like india where the poor literally shit in the streets and have absolutely no way to provide for themselves without aid
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Post Post #11441  (isolation #142)  » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:17 pm

In post 11440, CooLDoG wrote:yeah, trump is going to destroy the environment. At least he won some awards for being an environmentalist though. TRUMP 2020!


i think i read this on reddit somewhere or maybe here but maybe hes actually pulling a mr house type of shit knowing that the world is fucked which is why he wants to rapidly improve infrastructure and military here so we can lead the new world order

maga tho
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Post Post #11501  (isolation #143)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:08 am

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is this a record? who made this dude so mad
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Post Post #11536  (isolation #144)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:26 pm

In post 11532, theplague42 wrote:Joke's on you, TSO. Trump is slashing legal immigration as well.



eurocucks btfo
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Post Post #11548  (isolation #145)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:52 pm

In post 11545, Sesq wrote:
In post 11544, karnos wrote:
In post 11538, Accountant wrote:
In post 11517, karnos wrote:
In post 11515, Accountant wrote:Why does karnos post pictures of facebook statuses or tweets or captioned pictures like they are messages from god


Are you saying we are not gods?

Yes


Someone needs to watch Ghostbusters again.

(The real one, not the alternate unfunny feminist version).


The new one was actually OK. The director is kinda dumb but the feminist stuff didn't end up seeping in at all.


meh theres so much backlash on the movie its been poisoned for me. i don't think i could enjoy it
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Post Post #11556  (isolation #146)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:32 pm

In post 11553, theplague42 wrote:
In post 11552, Annadog40 wrote:
In post 11523, T S O wrote:We elected a man who promised us change and he's bringing it already.


You didn't elect anyone.

I think TSO is one of those people who thinks his vitriol spewed on the internet somehow convinced the Rust Belt to vote Republican.


can we deport TSO from this thread?
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Post Post #11558  (isolation #147)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:36 pm

haha, LIE-bruls
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Post Post #11567  (isolation #148)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:53 pm

In post 11564, karnos wrote:
In post 11563, Psyche wrote:karnos that is an op-ed


When it comes to CNN, what isn't?


anything that doesn't say its an op-ed
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Post Post #11580  (isolation #149)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:05 pm

In post 11578, Sesq wrote:Is anyone else hype for Justice Democrats?


i would like to get involved xd
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Post Post #11586  (isolation #150)  » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:19 pm

greed is a systemic issue but idk what we can do about it
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Post Post #11620  (isolation #151)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:50 am

In post 11613, T S O wrote:Mexico is going to pay for the wall. At the very least, it will be 50/50.


from 100% to 50%

if i thought i was going to 50% in my investment, i would pretty much divest immediately haha
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Post Post #11652  (isolation #152)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:47 pm

In post 11631, karnos wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316022-abc-apologizes-for-misleading-quote-about-spicer

Some more fake news, this time from ABC.


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Post Post #11657  (isolation #153)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:24 pm

In post 11654, karnos wrote:
In post 11652, inte wrote:
In post 11631, karnos wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316022-abc-apologizes-for-misleading-quote-about-spicer

Some more fake news, this time from ABC.


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Still stuck in stage 1.

I wonder how inte's brain actually reads this. "well, herp durp, the ABC apologized for reporting fake news, but they were probably forced to do that by evil Trump! they probably reported the correct news in the first place, and evil Trump made Ari Fleischer claim he said something else just to make ABC look bad!"


bad journalism =/= fake news and every time you conflate the two it makes the term less impactful. good job i guess
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Post Post #11658  (isolation #154)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:26 pm

good strawman though
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Post Post #11663  (isolation #155)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:35 pm

In post 11660, karnos wrote:
In post 11657, inte wrote:
bad journalism =/= fake news and every time you conflate the two it makes the term less impactful. good job i guess


Taking a quote out of context to reverse the intended meaning is fake news.

"Bad" implies it was due to stupidity rather than malice.

edit: they apologized because they got caught and called out. If it was just an error, they would have fixed it before being called out.


no its not and it wont ever be despite how much you insist
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Post Post #11667  (isolation #156)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:38 pm

when talking in millions and billions most people literally can't comprehend that 1 billion = 1000 million. its just not on any frame of reference for 99.9% of people
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Post Post #11671  (isolation #157)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:41 pm

In post 11666, karnos wrote:
In post 11631, karnos wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316022-abc-apologizes-for-misleading-quote-about-spicer

Some more fake news, this time from ABC.


In post 11657, inte wrote:fake news
impactful.

good job



inte seems to think quotes out of context aren't fake. So he shouldn't have a problem with this.


thats called misquoting
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Post Post #11677  (isolation #158)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:51 pm

In post 11672, karnos wrote:
In post 11671, inte wrote:
In post 11666, karnos wrote:
In post 11631, karnos wrote:http://thehill.com/homenews/media/316022-abc-apologizes-for-misleading-quote-about-spicer

Some more fake news, this time from ABC.


In post 11657, inte wrote:fake news
impactful.

good job



inte seems to think quotes out of context aren't fake. So he shouldn't have a problem with this.


thats called misquoting


It's not fake though, according to you.


he did say those words though right? it wasn't made up with absolutely no base for the claim?

maybe thats where our definition of "fake news" diverges. its always seemed to be targeting those blog-type websites and reporters who report that "obama is a secret muslim" or "obama's birth certificate is fake" type of idiots. not just something thats misleading.

"It looks to me if the ball was dropped on Saturday, Sean recovered it and ran for a 1st down on Monday."

vs.

"It looks to me if the ball was dropped on Saturday"
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Post Post #11679  (isolation #159)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:53 pm

In post 11670, karnos wrote:
In post 11667, inte wrote:when talking in millions and billions most people literally can't comprehend that 1 billion = 1000 million. its just not on any frame of reference for 99.9% of people


inte essentially saying corruption is okay if it's only a few (75) million dollars.


no i didn't

but keep fighting that straw man though
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Post Post #11683  (isolation #160)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 1:59 pm

In post 11680, karnos wrote:
In post 11678, theplague42 wrote:
In post 11676, Davsto wrote:In my view, what happened is Trump tried to bargain and blackmail Mexico to bend to his will using threats, Mexico promptly proved that they couldn't care less, removing Trump's bargaining chip (and likely damaging his pride while they're at it).

I don't think people like karnos realize how wealthy Mexico actually is as a nation. They're not some tiny, poor country that will bend over when Trump tweets they will pay for a wall.

We also trade a lot with Mexico and it's stupid to threaten our collective benefits over something as petty as this.


MUST SAVE THIS QUOTE.

Much embarrassment is coming for theplague42 in the near future, I guarantee it.


they are the US 3rd largest trading partner idk man thats dangerous to fuck with business partners like that
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Post Post #11686  (isolation #161)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:14 pm

http://www.areyousorryyet.com/

schadenfreude to the max
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Post Post #11689  (isolation #162)  » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:37 pm

In post 11688, Shaziro wrote:Karnos, I believe you got distracted and missed a post of mine.


nah he just ignores posts he doesn't have a trump-esque quip about
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Post Post #11737  (isolation #163)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:20 am

reminder that karnos is a liar and is not to be trusted

In post 11333, inte wrote:
In post 11330, karnos wrote:
In post 11324, inte wrote:
In post 11257, theplague42 wrote:False and fake are not the same word.


its so funny his comprehension is so low he can't understand this lol


Trump said fake. KK said "not fake". I said fake. Nobody said false, so what is your fucking point?

Are you also in the business of lying?


In post 10922, karnos wrote:It's not fake because it was posted on buzzfeed, it's fake because it's made up and provably false.


LOL caught in a lie

Are you also in the business of lying?
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Post Post #11741  (isolation #164)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:46 am

In post 11738, Papa Zito wrote:We all know karnos is a troll who is using politics as his vehicle, inte. Some people are choosing to continue to engage him despite this for reasons I'm sure make sense to them.


sometimes i take a break from my awesome life to feel negative emotions to make sure i'm still alive

fucking with karnos is one of those breaks
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Post Post #11744  (isolation #165)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:51 am

this is the email that caused anitia sarkeesian to cancel her oct 2014 speech at utah state and which got people who followed 'gamergate' as a hate group or w/e

https://vault.fbi.gov/gamergate

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Post Post #11770  (isolation #166)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:16 pm

In post 11757, karnos wrote:
In post 11753, Davsto wrote:
In post 11751, karnos wrote:Sheep, good.

karnos, who has supported virtually every move Trump has made and almost everything he says, is saying this to kuribo, a supporter of the Green Party


Green party was led by a sheep.

Hillary said recount and Jill said "how many do you need?"


FAKE NEWS
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Post Post #11771  (isolation #167)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:18 pm

In post 11768, kuribo wrote:The idea that GamerGate was about gaming journalism ethics is laughable because even as far back as 30 years ago there hasn't been ethics in "gaming journalism"


just because its been shit for a long time doesn't mean it can't be better. paid reviews and shilling have been the status quo for too long. i agree with davisto on his point that everything else is shit, however.
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Post Post #11780  (isolation #168)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:04 pm

b-b-b-b-but i'm not scared of gays!!!!!!!
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Post Post #11798  (isolation #169)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:27 pm

when a molecule is hydrophobic it doesn't mean its literally afraid of water

the same word can have multiple meanings based on contexts. language is elastic
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Post Post #11816  (isolation #170)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:57 pm

In post 11810, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 11798, inte wrote:when a molecule is hydrophobic it doesn't mean its literally afraid of water

the same word can have multiple meanings based on contexts. language is elastic

Here, have a woosh too.


whats the woosh? you said something stupid and i corrected you.

pedit: its also accepted everywhere in academia. most news outlets use it this way too. funny how its only ignorant people (who are typically islamaphobes and homophobe) that dispute this fact
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Post Post #11819  (isolation #171)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:00 pm

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but i'm not scared of islam! i just want to bomb every brown man i see
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Post Post #11844  (isolation #172)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:36 pm

In post 11831, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 11826, Davsto wrote:
In post 11825, ɀefiend wrote:leftists

Surely leftists are people who are prejudiced against the left? I mean, the "ist" suffix in words like racist and sexist is a well-established suffix, and you can't just change the meaning of it like that!

Derailment from the central point. Not an argument.


its literally the same argument that you're trying to make about islam-phobia
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Post Post #11851  (isolation #173)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:46 pm

In post 11849, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 11848, ɀefiend wrote:Illiteracy is a real concept, islamophobia is not.

TIL you can't be prejudiced against Muslims.


since it doesn't exist, i'm going to create a new word

zefiend you're a cuckold for your prejudice against muslims. i believe we should start calling all islamaphobes cuckolds when they dispute the word islamaphobe
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Post Post #11857  (isolation #174)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:51 pm

In post 11856, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 11844, inte wrote:
In post 11831, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 11826, Davsto wrote:
In post 11825, ɀefiend wrote:leftists

Surely leftists are people who are prejudiced against the left? I mean, the "ist" suffix in words like racist and sexist is a well-established suffix, and you can't just change the meaning of it like that!

Derailment from the central point. Not an argument.


its literally the same argument that you're trying to make about islam-phobia

I know you have a problem with context, but try to keep up. The central point is the use of the term islamophobic to falsely characterize those fearful of Islam as prejudiced or discriminating against Muslims.


just like hydrophobia falsely characterizes molecules to be fearful of water

good job cuckold
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Post Post #11859  (isolation #175)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:53 pm

i mean the reason the label can be viewed as dirty is because it is actually awful to be prejudiced. you can independently evaluate whether its justified without being a bitch though

just like when racists get squeamish at being called out on their racism
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Post Post #11864  (isolation #176)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:01 pm

nah bro nuance only exists in the republican party and STEM
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Post Post #11867  (isolation #177)  » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:08 pm

they must be protecting your fee fees because you're ''friends''
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Post Post #11935  (isolation #178)  » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:41 am

Reality is self evident

Plus nuance only exists in STEM not reality
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Post Post #12061  (isolation #179)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:48 pm

What the fuck page 480
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Post Post #12062  (isolation #180)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:50 pm

Accountants funny is self evident. Deal with it
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Post Post #12063  (isolation #181)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:52 pm

Accountant nobody cares about you're shit waifu
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Post Post #12064  (isolation #182)  » Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:04 pm

In post 12060, Sesq wrote:I believe free speech to be the most important thing, ever.


Do you also support freedom from speech or should everyone all the time be subjected to idiotic ramblings by pro lifers on a college campus

Free speech is important but only necessary some of the time.
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Post Post #12232  (isolation #183)  » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:10 pm

In post 12227, Psyche wrote:wasnt donald trump a top donator to the clinton foundation too


no you don't get it paying off politicians and not paying taxes makes him smart
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Post Post #12241  (isolation #184)  » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:21 am

twitter fingers turn to trigger fingers
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Post Post #12273  (isolation #185)  » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:41 am

reminder that karnos is a liar is not to be engaged

In post 11333, inte wrote:
In post 11330, karnos wrote:
In post 11324, inte wrote:
In post 11257, theplague42 wrote:False and fake are not the same word.


its so funny his comprehension is so low he can't understand this lol


Trump said fake. KK said "not fake". I said fake. Nobody said false, so what is your fucking point?

Are you also in the business of lying?


In post 10922, karnos wrote:It's not fake because it was posted on buzzfeed, it's fake because it's made up and provably false.


LOL caught in a lie

Are you also in the business of lying?
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Post Post #12351  (isolation #186)  » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:27 am

reminder

In post 11333, inte wrote:
In post 11330, karnos wrote:
In post 11324, inte wrote:
In post 11257, theplague42 wrote:False and fake are not the same word.


its so funny his comprehension is so low he can't understand this lol


Trump said fake. KK said "not fake". I said fake. Nobody said false, so what is your fucking point?

Are you also in the business of lying?


In post 10922, karnos wrote:It's not fake because it was posted on buzzfeed, it's fake because it's made up and provably false.


LOL caught in a lie

Are you also in the business of lying?
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Post Post #12409  (isolation #187)  » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:53 pm

In post 12358, karnos wrote:
In post 12357, chamber wrote:
There are a couple things here. First, free speech is only free from the government. Platforms like twitter or facebook or Mafiascum or Reddit, have always been free to censor whatever they want to. In the same way a newspaper can choose what to print. Second, reddit largely has decentralized modding. It's possible global admins got involved, but its more likely things were just being done by random mods on a given subreddit. Its even more ridiculous to call that shutting down free speech.



Let me stop you right there.

You are wrong. Free speech is not just a government thing. It's considered a basic human right by many. Now sure, reddit also has the right to not allow you on their site, and certain controls are fine.

Now, reddit has the power to censor, as a private company. But the whole point of a capitalist system is that consumers can be informed and make decisions based on such. If reddit is censoring it absolutely is crucially important to talk about and report all cases of censorship, so that the market can adjust and destroy reddit's business.

Also, there is a little thing known as "common carrier", which REQUIRES that you treat all customers or clients the same. If reddit is systematically censoring certain views, common carrier protections go out the window and the site owners are 100% liable for anything posted on the site. Child pornography, cracked software, hate speech, whatever. It's a very dangerous path to follow.

"t's possible global admins got involved, but its more likely things were just being done by random mods on a given subreddit."

You are speaking as if you know what you are talking about, but right here you let slip the fact that you don't really have a clue.

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/ ... eating_an/

Major admin admitted in plain words to editing multiple user posts without leaving any sign of edit.


WRONG
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Post Post #12410  (isolation #188)  » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:58 pm

TRUMP RAMPANTLY GRABBING PUSSY AND RAPING YOUR WOMEN. YOU VOTED FOR THAT?
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Post Post #12411  (isolation #189)  » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:59 pm

honestly all ardent trumps supporters ive met so far have been disgusting degenerates and karnos doesn't help that image at all
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Post Post #12436  (isolation #190)  » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:17 am

lmao this guys so angry. i may have legit triggered some ptsd.
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Post Post #12437  (isolation #191)  » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:22 am

SNL at 22 year high in viewership

fake viewers
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Post Post #12440  (isolation #192)  » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:30 am

hmm didn't think of that

karnos, you're fired
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Post Post #12442  (isolation #193)  » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:33 am

prob because i got fed up trying to have an honest conversation with him and have been lightweight trolling
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Post Post #12469  (isolation #194)  » Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:35 pm

i think it was blown out of proportion. listening to the clip i don't even think he literally meant grab them by the pussy, it did seem like "locker room talk". consent is finicky, sometimes its enthusiastic, sometimes they just let you do whatever and if its because you're famous or the hottest man on earth then it is what it is. there are certainly many women who would be down for fucking a celeb just cause and i don't believe in regret rape

you can argue the morality of the situation by forcing yourself on someone but in reality there is the societal expectation that men be the aggressors.
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Post Post #12550  (isolation #195)  » Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:59 am

In post 12543, chamber wrote:A lot of undergrad degrees aren't actually that useful in the job you get after school. Even in a directly relevant field. The value of a degree, at least in part, is proving you have the skills needed to get any degree. Work ethic, etc.


nah bro only STEM is useful and i'm working on converting the human race into borgs
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Post Post #12648  (isolation #196)  » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:44 pm

DRAIN. THE. SWAMP.
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Post Post #12654  (isolation #197)  » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:33 pm

In post 12651, theplague42 wrote:Is this what you are referring to? http://www.snopes.com/loretta-lynch-ple ... n-payment/


dont you know? snopes is fake news.
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Post Post #12683  (isolation #198)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:31 pm

stop quoting snopes its fake newss xxxdd

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Post Post #12685  (isolation #199)  » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:51 pm

trump also paid ppl to attend his rallies

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... _says.html
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