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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:33 am

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Yo Molla are you town
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Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:18 am

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VOTE: Aj the epic

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Post Post #122 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:31 pm

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My vote was serious
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Post Post #124 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:34 pm

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Yeah and his post on this page wasnt really that quality either
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Post Post #145 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:45 am

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Every post AJ has made are my reasons
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Post Post #150 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:47 am

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The low effort gold posting will commence for Tammys sake
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Post Post #227 (isolation #6) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:22 am

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This game does deserve some effort on my part. Vote well deserved

Which hydra is Nacho again?
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Post Post #228 (isolation #7) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:23 am

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AJ is town, my apologies. I see Nacho is in Reflektor
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Post Post #234 (isolation #8) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:22 pm

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VOTE: Medea the Alien

I'm on harmony with lots of people and thata dangerous

Seeing LUV/Alien/shadonra as decent placea to start
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Post Post #235 (isolation #9) » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:46 pm

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Interrupted during my re-read, but this game is a bit difficult to get a grasp on. I mean Tammy/AJ are universally town read, and thats why Im not voting LUV right now because my reads were in the same place at the time of that post.


shadonra is making blatantly scummy posts and I don't really want to go that route just yet either. Empking is leaning town at the moment
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Post Post #263 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:22 am

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Oh hohoho what is this?

I get to play find scum on my wagon?
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Post Post #265 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:38 am

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I figured shadonra had posted more than once and I had missed it in my skim.

I dont see scum making that move with their first post.

Randommidget and Pesrivul's follow ups are by far the worst votes on my wagon
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Post Post #266 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:43 am

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In post 259, shadonra wrote:I think Medea is town. I find scum unlikely to talk about this or lie about this conversation:
I posted a couple times, we talked more about the setup while getting ready to go out and agreed with my initial reaction that no-lynching and massclaiming weren't good ideas, considered if there were any obvious things to suggest in-thread be done with the set-up, decided no (that changed for me tonight with floating hypo claiming). Went out and didn't think about it again until tonight.
I don't like the look of Indigo - justifies their actions a bit too thoroughly, but I don't think I'm interested in it right now. They do the weird thing too consistently and it might be meta for them.

Why are people townreading AJ? I saw an appeal to meta somewhere, but I still don't like his posts very much at all.
This is why I feel Medea is scum. Thats both an easy conversation to fake having had and also extremely safe.

Medea's posts have been generally skirting around actual scumhunting and making sure set-up things are taken care of. Also focusing on people alignment through the lenses of MC talk or all that is much safer than actual confrontation.

Now that I've written that I think Persivul's got a bit more balls for actually being confrontationally with me and direct, so he gets less scum points.

AJ's tone and general timing of posts has been town from what I've read.


Randommidget just showing up and placing a vote on the biggest wagon is about as coasting scum as you can get. Especially when I'm such a juicy mislynch (if I'm mislynched town's chances of winning go WAY down).

BBMolla hasn't done anything that has stood out to me as scum but I still would guess town and probably leave him for another day down the road.

I like Reflektor's posts from what I can read of them. They are a bit too wall heavy for me to get a clear read but the content is at least taking stances IIRC
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Post Post #267 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:44 am

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Indigo is pretty townie in tone as well.

I'm down with Alien/Midget/????/Persivul wagons in that order.

??? is a mystery scum read that may come to light when they've shown more of their darkness
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Post Post #268 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:46 am

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In post 264, Aj The Epic wrote:Well you get to play mafia but so far that's been an unused option too.
I've been phone posting and on the road until yesterday, during which time I had a friend come over. This isn't an excuse, but its context for why I haven't sat down and read the thread and posted on a laptop.

There's something to be said for sitting in front of the screen with mafia, probably how my brain was trained to play it and how it operates best now.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #15) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:49 am

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In post 262, Persivul wrote:VOTE: Fate L-2

- basically votes medea and hides behind other peoples' reasoning

- as noted previously the comment on shadonra pinged me, but I wanted to see a VC before voting. Also "I mean Tammy/AJ are universally town read." He's too concerned with what other people are thinking, not coming up with much of his own.
So Persivul lets talk.

You were voting Alien, now you're voting me for what I know to be pretty shallow reasons. I am obviously concerned with the reads other people have, but they do not guide my reads if thats how it came across. I was noting that my reads coincided with others.

I wasn't hiding behind others reasoning I simply didn't have time to expand on my own while phone posting
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Post Post #271 (isolation #16) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:25 am

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Well I'm here buddy

Lets go over why you think I'm scum
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Post Post #272 (isolation #17) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:37 am

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I mean tight lips and gut reads are fine

but when I'm on that list you're gonna have to dance with me
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Post Post #283 (isolation #18) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 273, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 12, Fate wrote:VOTE: Aj the epic

Scum used to be hard to find
In post 145, Fate wrote:Every post AJ has made are my reasons
In post 150, Fate wrote:The low effort gold posting will commence for Tammys sake
this kind of posting seems low comittal and active lurky to me. iirc you were doing a lot mroe early game in summer mafia
That's some weak meta, and now that I've cleared up why I wasn't very active you haven't adjusted your vote accordingly.

VOTE: Random

Let's see whats up with this
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Post Post #284 (isolation #19) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:02 pm

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In post 274, Persivul wrote:
In post 265, Fate wrote:I figured shadonra had posted more than once and I had missed it in my skim.
You assumed he had made more than one post, and assumed that those other posts were "blatantly scummy."
Randommidget and Pesrivul's follow ups are by far the worst votes on my wagon
Here's molla's vote on you and explanation:
In post 208, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Fate
How is my vote worse "by far" than that? :?
You sound like pretty upset scum.

The lone vote he made was blatantly scummy, so I figured yes the other ones were probably of the same caliber
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Post Post #285 (isolation #20) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:04 pm

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Hypo-claiming is optimal play in the format that camn described in this one GD thread. I don't understand what you have against it Empking?
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Post Post #296 (isolation #21) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:44 am

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In post 287, Reflektor wrote:I thought I was the second vote on Fate (hence the "deserves more pressure" but apparently I was the fourth. I'll still leave it.

I'm not sure I'll be able to catch up tonight, I will if I can but otherwise I'm going to wait to see what Nacho says about Medea.

-Prism
And what has Nacho said about me? Curious that opinion didn't cross your mind
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Post Post #300 (isolation #22) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:47 am

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Well hopefully the vig knows to shoot random.

VOTE: Medea

You haven't really addressed any of the issues I had with your slot.

I am biased in my read on Indigo because I like the color. If he's V/lA for a week its really not a pressing issue anyway.

Weren't you voting Persivul before? We agree that read. Why are you no longer interested in pursuing him?
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Post Post #307 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:48 am

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I am voting Medea the Alien as of this page


Alien now that you see Indigo is AFk from this thread, it supports my claim that youre not actively taking risks because what the hell is that wagon going to do?
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Post Post #310 (isolation #24) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:48 am

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That's not where you want to be voting right now AJ
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Post Post #312 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:05 am

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Do you have any thoughts though

Any
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Post Post #313 (isolation #26) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:10 am

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*on Medea
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Post Post #327 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:10 pm

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I asked you specifically to have Nacho comment on my alignment and your hydras vote on me, Reflektor.

This is top priority, especially now with Tammy down I'm short on players I can trust if they're town
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Post Post #344 (isolation #28) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:20 am

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No history but well see what their entrance is

Empking what are your actual thoughts on the game? The mislynch wagon on me feels cold but what are you doing to stop it with any other reads

Molla are you done clowning around
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Post Post #345 (isolation #29) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:25 am

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Oh hw has entered...

If you dont see the difference between what those posts offer the thread and tammy well

I'll reserve judgement until he's fully caught up
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Post Post #373 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:51 pm

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In post 361, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 360, -Grey- wrote:
In post 273, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 12, Fate wrote:VOTE: Aj the epic

Scum used to be hard to find
In post 145, Fate wrote:Every post AJ has made are my reasons
In post 150, Fate wrote:The low effort gold posting will commence for Tammys sake
this kind of posting seems low comittal and active lurky to me. iirc you were doing a lot mroe early game in summer mafia
This being said after 268 is mehh.
yeah, my scumread of fate dropped off between my vote and his pressure on me for it
and yet you're still voting me


CAN WE FUCKING KILL IT YET?
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Post Post #374 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:53 pm

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-Grey-'s catchup of the thread reads naturally enough for me to give it a town read.

That and I want to be justified in my thinking Indigo was town for no reason
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Post Post #376 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:50 pm

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no one seems to give a shit about wagonning Random. I'm leaving it to the vig

Can I get a show of hands?
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Post Post #378 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:54 pm

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Potential Glorious randommidget wagon:


(2): Fate, -Grey-

Any other takers?
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Post Post #380 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:05 pm

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looking decent so far, but is it weird to mention I really would prefer him to just be vigged? <_<

I think we'd get more information out of a Alien lynch still
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Post Post #383 (isolation #35) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:11 pm

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I just think hes useless. Voting me this whole time, then when -Grey- calls it out that his vote on me was for shitty reasons given my explanation of active lurkiness, RM agrees his read on me is weak and has fallen off and yet hes still just voting me and not going for anything else.

Is it scum useless? maybe
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Post Post #385 (isolation #36) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:21 pm

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thats why I wasnt really expecting support and am still voting Alien
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Post Post #391 (isolation #37) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:43 pm

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holy shit I'm uncomfortable with how easy it would be to kill rm at this stage


RANDOM GET YOURE FUCKING HEAD IN THE GAME
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Post Post #395 (isolation #38) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:10 pm

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Reflektor am I wrong or are you STILL voting me and haven't explained or followed up with Nacho about how I'm scum here
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Post Post #405 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:08 am

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No I also have townread shadonra ever since his AJ vote.

I admit I may have given Molla too much credit for old times sake as well, hes doing less than fuckall this game

With 4 scum we cant go wrong
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Post Post #416 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:30 pm

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This game needs some consolidation
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Post Post #446 (isolation #41) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:39 am

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Persivul you're trying real hard to paint me as scum.

What's scummy about having a null-read you want vigged and don't want to waste a wagon on? I especially like how you don't comment on random's alignment at all or try to tell us what kind of interaction it is.

Am I trying to mislynch him (if so there's so much support I would've gone for it) bus him? Please do tell
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Post Post #454 (isolation #42) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:22 am

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All right random was active on site and didnt post here


VOTE: random

Calling all those votes now


Persivul I think you are unfamiliar with a playstyle like mine. I'm sure well be see eye to eye at some point if youre town
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Post Post #459 (isolation #43) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:25 am

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If thats all the effort youre going to put into this game then youre scum whether youre mafia or not.

I haven't played in a few years, and I dont remember you at all (no surprise if its this unremarkable)

But if you haven't improved in that much time what the hell are you doing.

No its more likely youre just lurking the bare minimum here as scum
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Post Post #486 (isolation #44) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:41 am

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I don't want flailing. I want actual reads and content and not this limp bullshit OMGUS vote
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Post Post #542 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:55 pm

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I wanted random to produce content thats all.

been busy, but my heart wasnt in that wagon as seen by other townies

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Post Post #544 (isolation #46) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:01 pm

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we had a nice voting bloc going releo...whats up?
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Post Post #557 (isolation #47) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:20 pm

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if you're giving up on lynching scum D1 youre in a paranoid corner that has no hopes of a glorious scum sweep


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=66116

This is how you play mafia with Fate and Nacho town

believe in the you that believes in me and open up the mind to possibilities
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Post Post #597 (isolation #48) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:01 pm

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In post 582, Reflektor wrote:I'm caught up now and I have a lot to discuss. I disagree with a LOT of what is over the past 7-8 pages. I hate hydra dissonance but I think being transparent with my direct thought processes is going to be a lot more helpful than whatever comes out of negotiation.

Fate's on and off with the Random wagon, and general lack of attention to anywhere else, is atrocious. Attacking Random's playstyle as justification for a vote if Random is town is atrocious. I might even agree with it if you swap Fate's and Random's names, because Random might as well be the greatest mafia player alive compared to Fate. The only reason I see to townread him is that he's done it too many times. Nacho is adamant that this game fits Fate's town meta, and I think I should trust him on it, but if this is it it's fucking awful.

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As someone who hasn't played 30+ games with you, how the hell am I supposed to townread you? Your reads have made no sense at all, I think random's content is fine, and your read on Aj still made 0 sense at the time it happened. (Sidenote: Doesn't mean that Random isn't scum, but if he is I can't nail him)

UNVOTE:

I'm not voting LUV today, 0 chance. I've seen him play better as scum and want him to step it up but this wasn't what I meant. I disagree with Nacho on the comparison to the other towngame. Comparing a town game to a town game is worthless, so comparing a single town game to a game he hasn't flipped in yet is virtually useless. Need to compare a scum vs. town first, then compare the unknown to have it really be useful. This isn't even close to the LUV I was scum with.

This is more of just a feeling on my end that is worth following up on but Persivul bothers me so far. He's made no posts that I scumread but all of his posts that I've liked have been ones that are very
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, in the sense that I don't agree with them but can clearly see the intent or genuine, organic thought process. Getting all of one and none from the other is not a great sign. This is a really hard feeling to describe and I've botched it but it's the best I can do right now. I'd put him as a scumlean right now with weak basis, the problem is he's done nothing to really justify that, at least in my opinion.

I've got more thoughts to follow up on but I've got to run for now, I'll be back in about 6-7 hours with the rest.

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P.S. Again I hate that I'm basically slamming the door in Nacho's face right now, because I don't think public hydra dissonance is a good thing, but to reiterate I think that the ability to see my thought processes both pre and post discussion/negotiation with Nacho will outweigh any negatives that come from the extra noise.
BY ASKING NACHO WHO HAS THAT EXPERINCE WITH ME

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Do you know hwo hard it is to townread you

when you literally have the equivalent of Scissors to cut the paper
and instead you use your teeth?

I don't know how shitty the communication is in your hydra but it would have to be pretty shitty to vote me without nacho's input and then refuse to ask nacho's input for the next 20 pages when I was asking you to.

Random's playstyle of "dont say shit and vote one person and not comment on anything" is complete bullshit compared to mine. Sure you can't follow my thought processes or reads, if you could I wouldn't strike fear into the heart of scums.

But you know where I stand at any point of the day, so you can evaluate me down the line if I don't lynch enough scum the first few days
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Post Post #602 (isolation #49) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:59 pm

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You can't seriously be hung up on the AJ vote which was RVS then pretend-not RVS to increase pressure and generate content

Like

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Post Post #611 (isolation #50) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:18 am

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I'm still fine with the -Grey- slot as town

Alien vs. -Grey- competing waogns would be good to see
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Post Post #631 (isolation #51) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:58 am

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VOTE: Molla

Slight preference for Empking
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Post Post #632 (isolation #52) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:00 pm

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its not what we want to know its that theres scum on my wagon and its you or persivul
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Post Post #636 (isolation #53) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:37 pm

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VOTE: AJ the epic barely

If my pg 1 gut read was right That'd be great
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Post Post #643 (isolation #54) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:41 am

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Over justifying that AJ vote I see

VOTE: BBmolla

I like AJs previous points on him as well
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Post Post #648 (isolation #55) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:47 am

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Hammer him Reflektor
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Post Post #660 (isolation #56) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:44 am

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We can't wait for claims at this point, and scum are obv gonna fakeclaim, thats why Molla can be hammered. If we lynch the GS so be it
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Post Post #661 (isolation #57) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:46 am

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Shadonra give me at least one reason to vote grey if its that srs
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Post Post #666 (isolation #58) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:18 am

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I still read rm as town
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Post Post #683 (isolation #59) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:56 pm

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VOTE: AJ the Epic

most likely a town flip but better than another PR?

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Post Post #684 (isolation #60) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:58 pm

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oh I didnt read your post shadonra

shouldv'e thought that through a bit more =/
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Post Post #686 (isolation #61) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:01 pm

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Post Post #828 (isolation #62) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:22 pm

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hrmmm

well at least the vig didn't shoot him lol
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Post Post #831 (isolation #63) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:27 pm

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I still think Molla's scum here, but that's not where I want to start.

I want more content and reads from:
Gamma Emerald
Empking
BBMolla

I'm 100% sure there's scum in this group coasting by on bare minimum content

Empking in particular stands out as having not done a single thing I can remember this game. Molla has at least bitched and whined and made a couple random votes so he has a shitty track record to lynch off of

VOTE: Empking

Ninja: because the vig was outed and roleblocked? I'd be very surprised if scum roleblocked in the dark and not the vigilante.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #64) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:32 pm

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also we're no int MyLo and I don't understand who said we could have a D2 lylo unelss the gunsmith gave a gun out blindly AND the vig misshot?

Am I just being bad at math or what?

Anyway since we aren't I still advocate Hypoclaiming for the Gunsmith.

So pick a target you would have investigated last night and your result, if you're not the gunsmith do a coinflip

e.g.

If I was GS, Last night I investigated Releo and got an innocent. I know some people were against this plan but I dont see the downsides. The best scenario is that the GS gets to crumb an innocent, give said innocent a gun for the next day (because he will go unroleblocked) and then we dictate the shot as a town (or GS claims so he isnt shot and is now useless role wise)
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Post Post #834 (isolation #65) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:33 pm

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I am onto something Grey. I got a strong "Cop" vibe from Empking so I left him alone yesterday, but now hes a quality player who skated by all of D1 and did nothing to try to dismantle the "Fate wagon that had bad vibes" etc.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #66) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:54 pm

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that makes it all the more important to determine it as a group.

A townie should participate in the discussion before they shoot. Obviously if the GS didnt get an inno and gives it to a scumfuck THAT person will shoot immediately and end the day
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Post Post #848 (isolation #67) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:55 pm

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Gamma less posting, more catching up and having reads and content please
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hmm you have a point grey, I guess i havent thought it through since its not even relevant was just looking at the GS ability
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Post Post #866 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:33 pm

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You've made a lot of posts without actually saying anything substantial.

At that time I thought BBmolla was townie and he called me out for a bs Random vote and also Reflektor, I don't remember off the top of my head tho
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Post Post #876 (isolation #70) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:30 am

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In post 870, BBmolla wrote:VOTE: Fate

Holy fuck this kid is so fucking obviously scum what are you guys doing????
Really regretting my AJ switch now


You ungrateful scumfuck
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Post Post #878 (isolation #71) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:42 am

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We haven't played together in at least 3 years, probably more.

So short answer is yes. Long answer is my style fluctuates even more with each game than it did before, so it hasnt been a static playstle into a new playstyle, its been a unpredictable playstyle into a probably more unpredictable playstyle.
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Oh wow, that post contains zero reads or strances except set-up shit!

Not surprised
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Post Post #882 (isolation #73) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:04 am

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Molla I dont give a shit if you cant read my playstyle look at the contributions ot the game and see that Empking has done fuckall

thats all I'm asking of you
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Post Post #904 (isolation #74) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:55 pm

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Yes I aas exxagerating, now you answer my question about my reads
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Post Post #910 (isolation #75) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:44 pm

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Im asking you now then, youre being koi
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Post Post #913 (isolation #76) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:11 pm

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How much are you enjoying that I am right about all 3, Empking

You smug scumbastard
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Post Post #921 (isolation #77) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:07 am

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Realeo Im gonna need a LOT more on why youre voting me over Empking
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Post Post #929 (isolation #78) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:14 pm

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Gamma STILL isnt voting or has any reads

with 4 scum hes waiting to see whether he has to bus Empking or can push some bullshit

thats half the scumteam right there. There other two will show themselves soon enough
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Post Post #933 (isolation #79) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:16 pm

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I still feel Grey is town here, especially with that random enthusiasm about his role


If you want to see bare minimum scum coasting see Empking's posts.

Also REFLEKTOR needs a prod

is it just me or is this day moving glacier
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Post Post #939 (isolation #80) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:24 am

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...thats some bullshit?

Give us some stanves dont just run ofd to nature
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Post Post #942 (isolation #81) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:15 am

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What makes it null lurking and not scum lurking?

Quote specific posts if you can please
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Post Post #943 (isolation #82) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:16 am

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FMPOV randoms lurking was null but Empkings is scummy as fuck
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Post Post #948 (isolation #83) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:30 am

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Gamma isn't just lurking, I've actively pointed out that he's posted meaningless content that doesn't take any stances.


And now that the scum have shown their faces I'll claim


I am the Gunsmith with a guilty on Empking.


THAT is why I suspect Empking even though he gave off "cop" vibes.

I wanted to see where everyone stood before coming out with it. Shadonra's vote is the most disappointing because it tipped the scales and I thought he was town, and in the same post he sees how bad Empking vote is.


Scum are among:

Gamma Emerald
Persivul

DEFINTIELY. I could've waited a bit longer to see Reflektor's true stance but I fear if I wait too long scum will outmuscle the town on this lynch
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Post Post #949 (isolation #84) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:31 am

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so now that I've claimed, the REAL sad thing about D1 was it was the Gunsmith running up the Vig while asking the Vig to shoot the Cop

yeah, I'm not proud. At least I've caught 1 defscum and 2 most likely scum
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Post Post #951 (isolation #85) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:33 am

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For Flavor nerds I am Yuichi Kayama, I own a nice rare merchandise shop in the big apple woo
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Post Post #952 (isolation #86) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:34 am

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Randommidget flipped cop, Empking cannot be a false guilty
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Post Post #953 (isolation #87) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:34 am

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I should correct the thing you quoted ot say:

THATS why I suspect Empking not as a gunsmith when the cop is dead, because IM THE GUNSMITH
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Post Post #955 (isolation #88) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:35 am

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and yes I know I hypo-claimed incorrectly because I had grand plans to get Empking lynched with some COMPETENT TOWN PLAYERS and then live the next day without them knowing I had a guilty
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Post Post #957 (isolation #89) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:46 am

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We have different approaches to the game, Grey
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #90) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:27 am

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We need to lynch the rolebloer today to maximize town win

I gave a gun last night to medea so everyone slow down we have two shots
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #91) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:59 am

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Do NOT shoot Grey


Let me xatchup it may take a few days
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Post Post #1011 (isolation #92) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:09 am

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The luv wagona gonna show us a lot of scum

They were pr hunting very well d1
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #93) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:46 am

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I definitely oppose a shadonra shot

Analyze the reactions to yesterday's wagon, how it was built, how scum tried to save Empking, etc.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #94) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:49 am

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Town might take two seconds to consider WHY I would say cop vibes and not gs and maybe backof
scum push any opportunity for a lynch, and you were chomping at the bit for my lynch oVer Empking

Persivul hangs
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #95) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:49 am

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bad play doesn't equal scum

I'm holding you accountable for that push
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #96) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:01 am

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You can make excuses or you can show me the scum on my wagon or give your account of yesterday

Right now you're just being defensive
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #97) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:27 am

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Persivul needs a gun to the face

Gamma is for rope
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #98) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:50 am

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ah... I forgot that

well my gun was fucking useless then?
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #99) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:51 am

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Except empowering town to shoot the roleblocker instead of us clownfucking around.

Well..


Gamma then. Persivul I just have personal quibbles with


I want other reads from you besides Gamma though, Reflektor
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #100) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:57 am

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I explained it yesterday when you were doing your very underwhelming catch-up post that didn't take hard stances at all.

Then you voted me over Empkng, which I STILL am having a hard time conceiving a townie could do given our respective contributions to the game

I do wish I had watied longer but I was juggling too much
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #101) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:00 am

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so... you voted me...
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #102) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:14 am

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meh, more likely story is that you got pigned because you knew that Empking was scum and you could draw connections between us huh

but since the wagon on me could've gone through over empking you voted that one
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #103) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:10 pm

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In post 1115, BBmolla wrote:I think one of Gamma/Reflektor is scum
this is actually a good read and I'd lynch Reflektor if Gamma flips town

Then again I'M DYING TONIGHT OH NOOES so
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #104) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:46 am

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My gut just heavily says Relektor scum and has for quite some time

VOTE: Reflektor

as my last act of towniness
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #105) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:03 pm

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In post 971, Reflektor wrote:I definitely think the day should have been lengthened here before outing that. I guess I'm catching up on my reading overnight.

Empking was my second/third vote choice anyway (Gamma and Fate himself being the other top contenders off the top of my head)

Big need is probably pinning down Molla/hadon/Grey alignments. Persivul I'm probably going to have to PoE.

-Prism
In post 724, Reflektor wrote:At this point I'm going to assume it flips town, I wasn't really the biggest fan of either vote. Nacho thought Aj over BB and that's more than I had.

Empking/Persivul/Fate are all ondeck for me, even though I doubt those are all 3.

-Prism
In post 667, Reflektor wrote:Sorry I've been tied up elsewhere.

@Molla:
A lot of this confidence in reads is really mysterious/somewhat sudden. I don't think it's a scumtell. It does mean that I think you're wrong and you haven't been transparent. What's with the defense of Empking/confidence in Aj?
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On other players, the biggest thing I want right now is more content from Empking and Gamma. Gamma is a great vigshot at this point, unless we have a really strong scumread, and Empking has given basically 0 that's not tunneling LUV. I don't like the earlier case of the biased vs. LUV as well as his continued tunnel there, especially since I lean town on LUV.

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this is from their ISO taht are references to Empking

ALWAYS mentions them as some 2nd/3rd option, never directly interacts, pretty scum as fuck
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #106) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:22 pm

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your pushes this game have all been crap

no you havent made any obvious slip ups that I can point to

But gamma being bussed as the not RB would make sense and yes Gamma might be town
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #107) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:58 pm

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ok whoa
UNVOTE NOW PEOPLE HE IS AT L-1


this has gotten shady as FUCK and I am not hammering instantly like normally as town bc we got shit to figure out
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Post Post #1157 (isolation #108) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:42 pm

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if you hammer him before the gun goes off the lynch takes precedent

if scum wanted to mislynch Gamma before we re-read caught up and were onto their RB (the only person stopping medea from getting another kill tongiht for more PoE goodness) then yeah

I'd be mad as fuck

especially with such scummy fucking names as PERSIVUL AND REFLEKTOR and help me

I know hes being bussed and I know hes not the roleblocker
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #109) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:48 am

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uh

lol this is real desperate?

Definitely not the roleblocker if you're going to suicide like this...
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #110) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:49 am

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So in your fanciful narrative... I fakeclaimed a PR in an open setup to bus my Buddy who I was in a 1v1 with wagon wise

and then

I gave the gun to Medea, I claimed this before they did (i think?)and they can confirm

so


hrmm
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #111) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:12 am

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well I'm glad you decided to claim scum so I don't have to be paranoid anymore

STill Reflektor as RB
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #112) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:58 am

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Stop trying to pretend you're not scum
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Post Post #1211 (isolation #113) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:10 am

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I didnt know the rb was limited shots

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #114) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:17 am

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Gamma is the only shot today cuz of hia clownie counterclaim
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #115) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:21 am

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If I was rbd why the fuck didnt you shoot someone?? Am I being rolled?
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #116) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:21 am

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would a gunsmith lose his abilty if RBd?
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #117) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:36 am

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I still have my gun.

This makes Reflektor confirmed scum for the slip that I was blocked last night
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #118) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:38 am

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In post 1209, Reflektor wrote:
In post 1207, Fate wrote:well I'm glad you decided to claim scum so I don't have to be paranoid anymore

STill Reflektor as RB
RB is probably out of shots already.
KBW's wacky gunsmith rules weren't clear until today and if the scumteam is so much as vaguely intelligent instead of just blindingly lucky they went for the block N1 and on you N2, so your RB fear is probably overblown.
There was no town information available by the time he made this post to indicate that I had not indeed given the gun to Medea and that I was RBd.

SHOOT REFLEKTOR DEAD BANG BANG
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #119) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:39 am

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Yeah you know what? fuck it its not LyLo, Gamma is confiremd scum already and can be lynched anytime

VOTE: REFLEKTOR

FINALLY

MY REVENGE
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #120) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:51 am

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the fuck are you talking about free investigation?
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #121) » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:15 pm

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No, I think scum DID use their RB on the claimed VIGILANTE

How is that not a basic assumption of optimal play? Run it by me
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #122) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:21 am

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Persivul salty scum huh

SALTY SCUM HUH
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #123) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:35 am

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Um. no.

No you cant act when RBd trollscum

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Post Post #1353 (isolation #124) » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:16 am

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REMEMBER YOUR DESTINY

REMEMBER THAT FATE CANNOT BE KILLED
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #125) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:57 am

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OF ONLY I HAD A GUN TO SHOOT NOTNGIVE YOU SCUMFLEKTORFUCKS
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #126) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:58 am

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Agree my gun ending day fucked town chanves a lot. Oretty sure its integral to balancr
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #127) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:51 am

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Well put, and yes that was definitely going on

BUt


Tbf I scumread the fuck out of nacho this game and never let go of that
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Post Post #1508 (isolation #128) » Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:54 am

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In post 330, Reflektor wrote:
In post 327, Fate wrote:I asked you specifically to have Nacho comment on my alignment and your hydras vote on me, Reflektor.

This is top priority, especially now with Tammy down I'm short on players I can trust if they're town
I think you're town, Prism doesn't. I'm perfectly comfortable with Prism feeling around and doing his own thing for now.
This post alone is punishable by death.

Thr LUV pushes were shit as well.

If town hadnt voted me over Empking your true colors wouldve shown through there as well
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Post Post #1514 (isolation #129) » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:57 am

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Tammy we really needed you to get scumcho lynched

I had no pull this game D1
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