Star Wars Rogue One [GAME OVER]

[Pine-A-Tonics]

First!

VOTE: Pine

I don't trust this guy.

~Think

VOTE: Pine

Y'all are just jealous of my awesomeness. And you also forget that Gin and I are hydra'ing. Fail less in the future, mmkay?

VOTE: BBMolla

Hey BB. Sup?

Pine

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You suck at page tops.

~Your face sucks.

Quality modding.

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You suck at page tops.

~Your face sucks.

Quality modding.

Pine.

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Dead off the bat, not a good start for a large theme...

So you're Leia, then?

#Too soon

Pine

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Dead off the bat, not a good start for a large theme...

So you're Leia, then?

#Too soon

Pine

I immediately regret this joke.

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Hey guys

What's shaking?

Your mom, after I made her.......

You know what? That retort veered sharply pornographic. Consider it withdrawn in deference to site rules.

Pine

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All that tells me is that you'd prefer the NC-17 version of what I did to your mom.

VOTE: LUV for being a sick fuck.

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I voted you for your desperation posting regarding Pine and your overly friendly nature, which you immediately 180ed on. You still seem to be flailing about, which is odd for page 2 and me barely posting.

Pretty much every assertion here seems entirely premature.

Aww, Titus, we're not going to be friends this game, are we?

VOTE: Titus
#srsvote

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Pine

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I voted you for your desperation posting regarding Pine and your overly friendly nature, which you immediately 180ed on. You still seem to be flailing about, which is odd for page 2 and me barely posting.

Seriously, Titus, do you believe any of this shit? We're in RVS, and the guy's got three posts, most of which are fluffy nonsense.

Overreaching.

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@Infinity If I am misreading your tone, again, you're still supposing I am town here and yet you're voting me.

The followup post is even more scummy. Like you had to remind yourself of your read on page 1 or 2.

@Pine, I believe all of it, and I am well out of RVS. I have caught scum before post 20 in another game. I tunnelled too hard and town let it go.

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Pine why do you feel the need to defend me

Don't give a shit about you. There's just as much chance this is an attempt to distance from you.

What stands out is that Titus is leaping to serious conclusions based on jack all. It comes off as very contrived.

TLDR: Attacking Titus =! Defending you

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That's fine, as long as you actually do reassess.

UNVOTE:

I think this is fine given titus's playstyle.

However, something bothered me about pine's first post and he continues to seem somewhat fake.

VOTE: pine

You keep voting for Pine, rather than the hydra. Respect the Gin, please.

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Well, 13 v 4 also had a number of quirks. First, it was a very low-power scumteam. We had a 1-shot strongman, plus a group power we could activate to get one of three 1-shots, though that also gave Town a 1-shot. Plus, one of our team was a Lover with Town, which is a negative utility role. So I don't know; I could buy a 14:3 from Firebringer in a power-heavy game, he likes his scumteams relatively weak.

Ack! Hydra slip.

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Boring game is boring.

Star Wars should not be boring.

Moar Titus votes.

PEdit: I can't call it Beetlejuicing if you post first, Titus.

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And you're still pushing nonsense little stuff as if it were a real case.

Pine

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Again, I don't have an opinion on Infinity. I have an opinion on you. Argument through repetition won't change that.

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I'm working on it. It's early game, and he hasn't done anything that inspires either a SR or TR. He acquitted himself acceptably well in response to your moon logic attack, but that could just be scum playing it cool. My experience with Infinity suggests that his scumgame is pretty tight, but so is his Towngame. Gun to my head, maybe a weak TR, but that's mostly due to the horribad attack you're pushing on him.

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Spoiler: In Regards to what to call us

Not much is happening in the thread but I'm assuming that's because people playing in this game are older vets who understand the concept of not just posting to post but post meaningful discussion. Idk how much I'll learn from this game, I'm just hyped for it.

Going back to the actual game at hand, I'm content with our vote on Titus because Pine brought up a good point that it feels off to have a strong personality saying she caught scum right out the gate but have the level-head to produce VCA which apparently she's good at doing.

Right now I do have a couple questions as I'm confused on the purposes of some people's actions.

First one is about the RVS stage and SirCakez, I was quite puzzled when Infinity said he didn't like the wagon forming on Cakez and then Cakez voted Infinity soon after. Question is mainly for Sir because I don't see what would make him vote Infinity after saying that.

The next one is what AJ thought was overblown when he said it in post 48, the follow up question is after Infinity asked him what AJ's thoughts about it was, is why he never continued his questioning of Infinity?

Also if I'm correct in the terminology, his posts are fluffy?
I know it's the RVS stage and it's hard to pick stuff out, I just don't know why an actual opinion hasn't been formulated from that slot in regards to anything useful.

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Spoiler: In Regards to what to call us

Not much is happening in the thread but I'm assuming that's because people playing in this game are older vets who understand the concept of not just posting to post but post meaningful discussion. Idk how much I'll learn from this game, I'm just hyped for it.

Going back to the actual game at hand, I'm content with our vote on Titus because Pine brought up a good point that it feels off to have a strong personality saying she caught scum right out the gate but have the level-head to produce VCA which apparently she's good at doing.

Right now I do have a couple questions as I'm confused on the purposes of some people's actions.

First one is about the RVS stage and SirCakez, I was quite puzzled when Infinity said he didn't like the wagon forming on Cakez and then Cakez voted Infinity soon after. Question is mainly for Sir because I don't see what would make him vote Infinity after saying that.

The next one is what AJ thought was overblown when he said it in post 48, the follow up question is after Infinity asked him what AJ's thoughts about it was, is why he never continued his questioning of Infinity?

Also if I'm correct in the terminology, his posts are fluffy?
I know it's the RVS stage and it's hard to pick stuff out, I just don't know why an actual opinion hasn't been formulated from that slot in regards to anything useful.

/Gin

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@SirCakez, this chain of events right here. For context the counterwagon was started with you. I'm curious as to what Infinity said that made you want to vote him?

Don't like this counterwagon shit

You could even say I have a bad feeling about this

VOTE: infinity
VAC

/Gin

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Niiiiiice.

Hey NC.

Vote Titus with me.

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I mean so far Titus' case on Infinity is absolute junk but SCFTWR.

lolwut is SCFTWR

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movie time.

Things to discuss while I'm gone.

Is Cakez bad town or scum?
Does Titus have a crush on me?
Why did Pine vanish?
Will Ari ever post?!?
Why Nero Cain rocks.

and finally

what was the best star wars movie?

We vanished? When? This is our tenth post in this thread today. If you want more, you can stick your head in a thermal exhaust port.

As for the best movie, people always go nuts for ESB, and for good reason, but Return of the Jedi has always been my favorite. The wife is sitting next to me and says A New Hope, but she's wrong.

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What assumptions specifically do you not like?

Singleball. I think it's foolish to assume that this early.

This game is confirmed singleball (Rebels vs Empire)

Read....the....OP.

/Gin

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Was that it?

Pedit: oof. That is an awkward, awkward post right there!

What is it you find awkward? It's a pet peeve of mine when someone is intentionally naive for whatever they're doing. It's like pulling a push door that says "PUSH" and the person just stands there frustrated that they can't open a door by pulling it.

Yeah I never read the OP

This shit ^ makes me want to grind my teeth.

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How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?

Cakez, I'm concerned about your question as it's feels like a loaded one. Correct me if I'm wrong but you're asking why a townie should act...townie.

It just feels like you're saying people aren't acting scummy and you want them too.

/Gin

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I wouldn't say this AI as LUV said he never reads an OP. If this was a singular case then I'd be more inclined to have the dumbtell hold weight but that's not the case here.

/Gin

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Q: Would LUV dumbtell like that as scum?

Hey Desperado, what's your opinion on it?

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Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.

VOTE: SirCakez

Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"

/Gin

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About the Rogue Leader thing, I think it's a disservice to vote yourself as captain. The way it's set up, it's like we can vote to lynch someone and that's who we think is scummy, as for voting for rogue leader, it's like voting for who your strongest town read is.

Basically, if you're town, then people will see that and you'll be elected and it seriously discredits a whole other dimension to the game that can be analyzed if you vote yourself.

/Gin

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alban, which alignment do you prefer to play?

Most definitely town.

But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.

There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.

In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.

Did you play with someone called Secret Agent Jin? I don't recall playing with you

/Gin

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About the Rogue Leader thing, I think it's a disservice to vote yourself as captain. The way it's set up, it's like we can vote to lynch someone and that's who we think is scummy, as for voting for rogue leader, it's like voting for who your strongest town read is.

Basically, if you're town, then people will see that and you'll be elected and it seriously discredits a whole other dimension to the game that can be analyzed if you vote yourself.

/Gin

Gin is overthinking things. Nero is bleeding Town all over the place, and is actively gamesolving. He's a good Rogue Leader for now.

VOTE: Nero for Rogue Leader

Pine

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Can someone help an older gent out...
why is he scummy and unwanted like the gout?

this was to refer to SC,
some explain the case on he.

Iso Infinity,
For answers saught by thee.


/Gin

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This game is boring. How dare you people make Star Wars boring!

Not really liking LUV, and I completely do not buy Drunken Piper's post restriction. It looks a LOT like something fabricated to excuse minimal content.

Drunken Piper, please discuss your restriction, or confirm that you're just dicking around.

VOTE: Drunken Piper

Pine

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well his title is "couplet typer" so i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is a posting gimmick

Oh. That does explain things.

That's irritating.

VOTE: LUV

LUV is mostly a gut read. It's based on a broad reading of their ISO, nothing specific. Sorry, it's a boring game, people are playing things close to the vest, and Titus has been reasonable lately.

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^Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine

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1) As I said, it's broad interpretation of demeanor and attitude, not specific things.
2) It appears self-imposed, and hence NAI.

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Scummy, obv

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Okay, serious answer - everything you're doing seems calculated to be safe and inoffensive. Like you're trying not to be noticed, like you're trying not to ruffle feathers. Not one thing individually says that, but your vote patterns and calm but unproductive attitude does.

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Maybe I need to play more like KainTepes

No.

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I am curious on how you acquired,
the title of the Rhyming Squire?

It is also to much disappoint,
That the syllables are not on point.

Even if Pine's mouth fills with foam,
I'll engage in the wit of poem.

The question you ask Pine, I do not know.
Its answer appears as soon as he shows.

I do not think I am at fault,
to ask you if this is an alt?

/Gin

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As long as I can find that you are sincere,
I'm okay with you drinking thy rhyming beer.

If found you use this humour as a ruse,
just know you will be met quick with a noose.

/Gin

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nix that, i see you were blawb

When you read, I'm under Blawb yes, however note that after D1, my two buddies flaked the hydra so I stopped signing the posts. I made a post in game IIRC saying that I would stop signing, so after that point if you're reading for research, just know that everything past that point was my own writing.

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Drunken Piper, please discuss your restriction, or confirm that you're just dicking around.

My title says it all, your vote is lame.

curious, did you go and see if I have done this in another game

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this question however still stands.
you didnt go check if I have done this in other lands?

I did, but only after the title was pointed out. This was already discussed here:

well his title is "couplet typer" so i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is a posting gimmick

Oh. That does explain things.

That's irritating.

VOTE: LUV

LUV is mostly a gut read. It's based on a broad reading of their ISO, nothing specific. Sorry, it's a boring game, people are playing things close to the vest, and Titus has been reasonable lately.

1) As I said, it's broad interpretation of demeanor and attitude, not specific things.
2) It appears self-imposed, and hence NAI.

My suspicion of you was based on the notion that you were restricting your content in order to conceal intent, but seeing that it wasn't restricted to this game obviated that, and I am satisfied with your explanation.

Pine

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How do you look at blank votes and pick what is town and what isn't town?

/Gin

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How do you look at blank votes and pick what is town and what isn't town?

/Gin

My favorite part about technology and things on the internet is that they don't go away.

Just like this question.

Also slow the fuck down on your catching up if it means you're just going to say "town" or "scum," whenever you read a post.

P-Edit: I've read a lot of your articles and wiki links and I expect you to follow your own advice in looking in the motivations behind the post and not at face value. To just say "town or scum" looks to me as fake for someone who posts bigger walls than Trump could ever dream of.

/Gin

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damnit I realized in the P-Edit I saw your answer making the post redundant

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Actually no, that answer means absolutely nothing. I'm still content with my question until I get a real answer.

/Gin

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I've read a lot of your articles and wiki links and I expect you to follow your own advice in looking in the motivations behind the post and not at face value.

First rule of mastina: do as I say, not as I do.
Second rule of mastina: If it doesn't look like I am doing as I am saying, there's at least a 50% chance you're reading it wrong and I am in fact doing exactly as I say.

Granted, there's the 50% chance that I did in fact not follow my own advice, but this? Not one of those times.

Think about that for a moment.

Oh my god you're like a modern day sphinx

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Okay no, seriously. How did you judge RVS votes as town/scum?

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both ^^
/Gin

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Spoiler: Blatant ShitPost but starwars related

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The amount of text in this game just doubled in a page
I'm excited for another round of arguing with mastina

What are your first impressions on Mastina?

/Gin

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Nero or Infinity can do me the solid here but both Pine told me that Nero is bleeding town and Infinity is saying Nero has a distinct scum game so could I get a link of one of his games as town and scum? I'd like to be in the loop if anyone brings up an argument for town/scum Nero in regards to meta.

I'd just like some eye candy for when I'm at work tomorrow because I don't like phone-posting that much but I can still read.

/Gin

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I saw you post, then Heartless wrote down "SirCakez," I remembered Infinity was pushing cakez and then remembered Infinity also saying you have a distinct type of play that's hard to fake as scum. I've been meaning to ask for it but I was too lazy; welcome to my brain lol

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I'm screaming

I consider that having your cake and eating it too.

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So continues the hilariously long history of Mastina being completely unable to read me correct. At least she's Town this game.

Pine

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Boring game is boring. Star Wars should not be boring. Moar Titus votes.

Fuckit.

VOTE: Pine.
When I get a chance to lynch a scum Pine.

Yer damn right I'm gonna take that chance to lynch his scummy ass.

Waaaait...Mastina's here too...

Why does my pc break when all the legends are here?

Yeah, right?

At least she's Town this game.

Yes I am! You, however, are your usual scumfuck self!

Which should really tell you that I'm Town. Come on, Mastina, you know as well as I do that your instincts with me are routinely backwards.

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Pine

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I don't have time to post but huh...Klingon is 2 years old. For her age she's a hella smart baby.

/Gin

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So continues the hilariously long history of Mastina being completely unable to read me correct. At least she's Town this game.

Pine

is this a meta read or was it a carry over from princess or...... what?

Mastina and I have played dozens of games together, to the point where I don't need much for a solid read. Unfortunately, she has a long, long history of kneejerk reading me opposite my actual alignment. She reads my scumgame as Town, and vice versa. Sometimes she comes around to the right answer sometimes, but the pattern is hilariously long and consistent.

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Alban, whats your opinion on the cakez wagon and do you think AJ is the better lynch or no?

I'm checking in before I go to bed and I realized I don't actually know what your opinions are on the game right now

/Gin

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If you're worried, there's a simple solution. Put pressure on him and start asking for definitive answers.

I personally think word choice matters a lot when indicating alignment and just in general you can reveal a lot of behind the scenes info when doing it. For example, in post 755 LUV says "could lead to unnecessary attention." What pings me about it is that the motivation behind it feels moreso him telling a player to just shut up before they are pressured than just a general observation.

It's starting to become a theme as well where he is discouraging conversation. He thought the beginning was just noise and I can't recall from memory if there were other instances but this brings another example as to LUV discouraging discussion and I don't like it at all.

/Gin

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How is he discouraging discussion?

I'm not sure where Gin's going with that, exactly, but playing it safe stifles discussion, as does limiting choices to the popular ones. We see this all the time when people get on others' case over a vanity vote when there are viable wagons.

I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

Hmm, really? What risk would that be in this particular case?

The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.

Not sure how that attention would be a bad thing though. He's already drawing attention to himself with his unorthodox play.

Yes but he's a player I feel that is set in his ways in terms of play style. He can't help it at this point. Voting for Rouge Leader is something he can control.

Consider these. LUV is limiting choices, attributing things to play style instead of motive, and generally discouraging independent thought.

Please note that I'm not at all convinced that the above is alignment-indicative, (I think it deserves some discussion post-game,) but I think that's what Gin is getting at.

Pine

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post 134, post 261, post 312 are the posts that pinged me from earlier on.

It's the fact that he'll say he doesn't like the discussion at hand but didn't give off an alternative.


like, one can go "Hey I think this conversation is just noisy, lets talk about this instead because I find it to be blah blah."

Do you understand or am I being asinine?

/Gin

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Town is fucked the day Ari decides to actually post as scum. Therefore, no meta defense saying "I don't do this as scum," IMO is ever valid. It's great to start looking into suspicions but to base a complete read on it, is highly fallible.

/Gin

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Ari, stop working against yourself. Just analyze the game and give us your opinions. Whether you are town or not will come solely off of being able to tell what your true intentions are.

We don't need you to figure out who you are, that's our job, now you do the same and try to figure out everyone else, ya feel me?

/Gin

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Nacho, tomorrow night, be there or be square. It's a date.

/Gin

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I mean any time this weekend I'm good to do it, Sunday noonish I'm taking my grandma out to lunch for her birthday but besides that I'm good.

I'm struggling with this hydra thing because signing in and out is getting tedious and I don't enjoy not being on my main account as much as I like being on the hydra. I just need to set up a time where I only focus on the hydra and stop trying to switch so yeah it's okay, even if it's a "get together jam"

/Gin

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I wanna vote thinker with you but I don't think we can get 5 other people to do it in 3 days.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

We are not lynching Ari under any circumstances until I talk to him. Ari is not a player you can yell at and expect work to be produced. I've found the best method is to do a snowball like effect where you start off by asking his opinion on your own opinion about a post and then you get him working on it trying to analyze bigger posts that you think have a lot of meaning behind it.

My opinion as it stands is that Ari has stuck to defending himself and just talking about people accusing him because that's what is in front of him. Get him away from the crowd and talk to him 1 on 1 and he blossoms like a flower. If he can't do that then it's scum 99% but I fully support not lynching Ari until that session has occurred.

The only thing that sucks is that he is V/LA :/

Regardless, that slot looks like it's begging for a mislynch and I don't feel like a deadline lynch should damn that slot. He can easily do the 1 on 1 session on D2 or D3 and if that fails after a good hour of talking, then he's gone and it's scum!Ari confirmed.

Also, if anyone is up for some town jam sessions hit me up, I've been in the mood and I feel like a piece of shit for neglecting this game.

/Gin

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Yeah fuck that.

You'd be surprised what can happen in 3 days.

Now if you want to be petty and ask me questions like that, then I'll gladly ignore you and get to work; or you can work with me and remove all that uncomfortable feeling I get when someone says they think I haven't been scummy and then votes "Because deadline."

/Gin

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Post 165, 182, 746, 891 of you thinking I'm town and then you vote me out of "shaking things up" and argue that deadline is the reason you advocate a lynch on who you're voting for.

That's suspect as fuck.

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Didnt' read P-Edits but I want to talk about this now before I can trust you because I just smells of bullshit to defend me so adamantly and then push my lynch.

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Post 165, 182, 746, 891 of you thinking I'm town and then you vote me out of "shaking things up" and argue that deadline is the reason you advocate a lynch on who you're voting for.

That's suspect as fuck.

Didnt' read P-Edits but I want to talk about this now before I can trust you because I just smells of bullshit to defend me so adamantly and then push my lynch.

/Gin

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My view on deadline so we understand each other real quick. My homesite I played on, days lasted 24 hours. I had a reputation of lynching scum D1 and the record on that site holds to about 7/9. A LOT can be done in 24 hours. Granted the caliber of MS is way above my previous pay grade but it's not like it's an impossible task.

/Gin

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You remember the page you talked to Mastin about it?

/Gin

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24 hour days means a lot more activity within those hours. On ms people are offline, inactive, etc or just stubborn so in my experience quick compromises usually don't work out.

Key word is usually

It's 3 days is the deadline. That means people are forced to come online at least one more or two more times to not be prodded meaning they have to produce content. Now, I'm always up for smashing D1 going over everything that happened and then break the day and conclude who's scum in a town jam of 24 hours or less.

All I need is a couple people who are willing to be hyperactive with me for a few solid hours going over each player and GG.

/Gin

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Basically where my vote already is on, LUV. Last thing I remember about him is that we called him out on safe playing and he still hasn't really come out of his shell. He's continued to safe play and it's very unlike him to want to replace out so much.

It sounds hypocritical coming from a slot that just got prodded but the difference here is that I'm playing with conviction here and I'm trying to put in work where I can, when I can; his slot is "hasing a sad" and doing nothing about it.


/Gin

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Pushing a lynch right now is not what I actually care about tho. I just want someone I can talk to about my reads on players going over them. I need fucking Nacho.

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Thinker is out of the question until he comes out of V/LA.

What was your case against Klingon and AJ?

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Im gonna cry. Oh my god that Klingon case

/Gin

[Pine-A-Tonics]

Alright, I like to talk about one person and focus on them before I make a determination, so be prepared to talk about Klingon for a bit

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Just a prod dodge here, I don't need to get involved with VCA arguments or multi/singleball arguments, most of the discussion here has been empty fluff worthy of a Victorian-era luncheon.

Good entrance by Nero, maybe he's Town. I always Townread TTH. Molla and the Piper look Townish. No reads at all on everyone else.

Alright, so I don't like it when people openly admit to prodging but I don't have enough experience to judge if it's AI or not. What I don't like here is that she's saying she doesn't need to get involved in two arguments she listed, but the thing is; is that it was more than just talking about game mechanics/tools.

Like, IIRC there was discussion of white knighting, opinions on counterwagons and overreactions about said arguments beforehand. It feels like an overall generalization to make it look like it was not worth looking into at all when there was actually content in there to begin with.

Also, there is no way it wasn't said before but I'm getting bad vibes from the fact that not a single person pinged as scummy.

Actually after typing that, it really doesn't make much sense at all to say the "VCA and Multi/Singleball arguments" meant nothing but could find that people were townish during that period of posting.

/Gin

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VOTE: Infinity

The level I'm salty at because you didn't say "Vote Infinity and Beyond" is very high.

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Spoiler:

Just a prod dodge here, I don't need to get involved with VCA arguments or multi/singleball arguments, most of the discussion here has been empty fluff worthy of a Victorian-era luncheon.

Good entrance by Nero, maybe he's Town. I always Townread TTH. Molla and the Piper look Townish. No reads at all on everyone else.

Alright, so I don't like it when people openly admit to prodging but I don't have enough experience to judge if it's AI or not. What I don't like here is that she's saying she doesn't need to get involved in two arguments she listed, but the thing is; is that it was more than just talking about game mechanics/tools.

Like, IIRC there was discussion of white knighting, opinions on counterwagons and overreactions about said arguments beforehand. It feels like an overall generalization to make it look like it was not worth looking into at all when there was actually content in there to begin with.

Also, there is no way it wasn't said before but I'm getting bad vibes from the fact that not a single person pinged as scummy.

Actually after typing that, it really doesn't make much sense at all to say the "VCA and Multi/Singleball arguments" meant nothing but could find that people were townish during that period of posting.

/Gin

I'd like ya'lls input before I move on

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Titus, how much input have you put forward about Klingon?

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Why? You're voting Pine but you agree with his scumhunting now. You just really need everyone to like you don't you.

Just because someone is somewhat scummy doesn't mean everything they say is wrong. Plus, some of those things were already pointed out. I agreed that post was scummy at the time, and I agree now.

You said I was the scummiest viable wagon, not somewhat scummy

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Then the fuck where you voting me for?

hydra slip

/Gin

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Titus, you have a chance of being right if LUV wasn't a wagon.


Infinity, you got me fucked up saying you just vote who you think you can lynch instead of voting who you think is the scummiest.

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I'd rather lynch town than no one.

What the fuck is that

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Titus, tell me in that ISO what is town.

Fuck me....

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VOTE: Klingon

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Infinity, Nacho, Desperado, and Aeronaut are my choices.

You only get 3

VOTE: klingon

So much for me being the most viable wagon huh?

Last time I'm hydra slipping for the game


P-Edit: It's think it's a bad idea to force yourself into arbitrary boundaries where you don't look at other options as it essentially makes you go blind to what's in front of you.

Oh TRUST ME, I know exactly what it's like to be frustrated about a game. Deadlines suck but you can't let yourself sink into apathy or it all goes to shit.

/Gin

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I am going to go shoot things in Xcom. If you want to be in my character pool, post in the Arcade.

I also have a Upick mimi in signups.

I will check back later.

This on MS? I might actually check that out as i've never heard of this

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30% of 17 is 5.1. Rounding down and including ourselves, I'm under the impression we have four. Am I wrong?

yep you're right

392

Funny that you guys think my ISO is so horrible when this post makes it clear that you didn't actually read it.

Fuck me silly

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Is ThinkBig on V/LA?

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Of course they are

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I'm just not comfortable lynching Ari until I have the chance to talk to him.

Klingon, we have content to go over and ya read the damn ISO you understand why it deserves a vote.

Tell me why Klingon is town before suggesting to vote Ari


/Gin

P-Edit: It's me

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hahahaha

So comparatively, is your argument bad content vs no content with it being Klingon and Ari respectively?

/Gin

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Don't know why I'm expecting this to be a flashwagon with this gamestate. If he actually produces content my vote's going straight back to Klingon

VOTE: TheThinker

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Site-wide post: Apologies for absences, I have been having some internet connectivity issues to cap off a week of rough personal issues, including illness in the family and problems at work. These should (I hope) be clearing up in the next day or so. I'll be catching up site-wide as soon as humanly possible.

Pine

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Wanna know what I hate? Anyone want to know? Take a guess I'd love to hear it.

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Yes if it was a different player that grinds my gears when they do it but not this time.

What I hate with a beautiful passion is people that lie.

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I basically taught TheRealGin-N-Tonic how to town it up behind closed doors. (Not directly, but indirectly, via my theory work. Most recently seen here, but elsewhere too.) Because, uh. Yeah. They're closed fucking doors. We can't see them. It's easier to manipulate two or three town players than it is the entire town.

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Articles I read by Mastina and that I have actually bookmarked because I like to reread them.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15932
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... y:MastinMD
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16540
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15933

This neighborhood does not exist. The only talking we did was in a couple of PMs.

In which I asked her for helpful articles and she shamelessly admitted to shameless self-promotion. I'm waiting for the Mod to answer my question if I can post a screenshot of our PMs as it isn't mod communication.

I. Fucking. Hate. Liars.

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What I dont get is why she lied.

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wow im sure this will be productive.

cant wait.

I'm sorry what concerns me doesn't concern you. What are your concerns?

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wow it is way too early for me to be making real posts.

Making real posts?

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VOTE: klingon
Titus what happened to wanting to wagon Klingon?

Klingon was a compromise if I couldn't get Infinity and this Klingon lynched seeming preplanned without me worries me.

Klingon quickhammered a vig without a claim and is near-universally scumread and you think this wagon is "preplanned"?

Yes, to defend Infinity scum.

Bruh

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how

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This is conformable by other members of the RC but there are two key things that are missing here.

1) There was one reason I used the ability, that was to talk to Nacho. Otherwise I never would have joined the crew.
2) While in the crew, I had one simple question for Nacho and if IIRC it was,

"Nacho, you and Mastina are like blood. Can I trust her?"

Nacho made 1 post in the crew but never actually answered that question.

I think you can start to connect the dots in why Nacho, who wasn't presenting himself as a threat, needed to go N1. My hypothesis is that Mastina is so daftly afraid of Nacho being able to call her shit out that he held priority over everyone else.

/Gin

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Yo there is this animated series called Star Wars: The Clone Wars and it's actually pretty freaking lit. If you wanna binge it with me be my guest

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Nacho is dead. You two talked about Heartless once. Then he died.

You didn't give him the CHANCE to engage. Now that we have the flip with Nacho was town, that means if you were scum, you knew he was town, killed him before he was able to engage because you know it'd be a battle you would lose.

he has won every time we've actually engaged

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I've gotta call bullshit on Drunken Piper. I'm not entirely sure why he's targeting us, but this is clearly a reaction gambit, and it isn't working. He wants to softclaim a guilty? Fine. Bullshit. He can't have a guilty on Town, and the Rogue Crew powers that were available weren't Cops anyway.

So fuck off. I've been taking advantage of Gin's presence to kind of cruise control this game, but if he's panicking about a fake guilty, it's time to pay more attention.

Pine

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VOTE: Pine since guilty and they're being dodgy about the crew infiltration thing

How are we being dodgy? We are Galen Erso, Jyn's dad. The one who designed the hole in the Death Star's defenses, and got the plans out of Imperial hands. Our special ability is "This is for you, Stardust," which allows us to join the Rogue crew once in the game. Gin and I saw no reason to wait and plenty of reasons to join, so we did.

We are otherwise a VT.

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Pine^

And if Drunken Piper is hardclaiming a guilty, then either there's a Redirector or a Framer/Tailor, because it's not accurate.

Drunken Piper, what's your flavor, please?