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Post Post #40 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:16 pm

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Hey guys :D

What's shaking?
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Post Post #41 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:20 pm

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@Mod: I'll be v/LA until the 13th.
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Post Post #43 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:24 pm

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In post 42, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey guys :D

What's shaking?
Your mom, after I made her.......

You know what? That retort veered sharply pornographic. Consider it withdrawn in deference to site rules.

Pine
Hey I'll have you know sir, I'm a veteran, and I will be respected as such :cool:
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Post Post #62 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:04 pm

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Titus, I think you're letting your aggroance be your worse enemy again.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:19 pm

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VOTE: Drunken Piper
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Post Post #69 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:20 pm

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In post 64, Infinity 324 wrote:How's it going LUV? Any reads yet?
Good. Nice to see you again Infinity!

I have a gut scum read on Drunken Piper for his entrance. Felt a bit too try hard for an RVS vote.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:53 am

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In post 79, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 69, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 64, Infinity 324 wrote:How's it going LUV? Any reads yet?
Good. Nice to see you again Infinity!

I have a gut scum read on Drunken Piper for his entrance. Felt a bit too try hard for an RVS vote.
if problems you have with my rhyming ways,
then yes kill me now, for you are in for longer days.
Fine.

UNVOTE:

I'll be watching you though! :cop:
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Post Post #134 (isolation #7) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:14 am

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You sound like you're overreacting to being called scummy about the issue. If you didn't care to comment on it, you should've just said why and moved on.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #8) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 143, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 134, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:You sound like you're overreacting to being called scummy about the issue. If you didn't care to comment on it, you should've just said why and moved on.
I see this post, up in this joint,
and it leads me to ask, what is the point?
It was my way of telling him to calm down and move on. I don't find the Titus vs Infinity, Nero, and PAT argument interesting at all and I wish everyone would just ignore her until she drops it. It is more noisy than helpful in figuring out their alignments at this point.
In post 144, Heartless wrote:alban, which alignment do you prefer to play?

I'm on the same wavelength with Antihero regarding the vote.
Which head said this? What was the purpose of the first question?
In post 148, Desperado wrote:
Vote: Infinity 324 for Rogue Leader
I can get behind this.

VOTE: Infinity for Rouge Leader
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Post Post #262 (isolation #9) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 224, Heartless wrote:mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ari's hydra getting prodded does not bode well
Wanna find out if this is his scum game once he and TB come back from v/LA?
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Post Post #263 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:00 pm

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In post 247, BBmolla wrote:im vigging the ever loving shit out of drunken sailor, im not dealing with that self post restriction all game
Literally missed that it was a post restriction. Annoying.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 264, SirCakez wrote:Someone hasn't posted while on V/LA? Must be scum...
Wasn't what I was implying...

Ari tends to lurk as scum and I was suggesting to PP if they would like to see if this is him pulling that once him and TB come back.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:20 pm

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In post 266, Heartless wrote:
In post 262, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 224, Heartless wrote:mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

ari's hydra getting prodded does not bode well
Wanna find out if this is his scum game once he and TB come back from v/LA?
won't be that hard

who's PP?
Pretty Princess. I mixed you guys up apparently.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:33 pm

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I like that he was one of the first people to mention that we should discuss who should be the Rouge Leader for Night 1. I don't really like the assumptions he made about the setup. Null overall.
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Post Post #271 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:06 pm

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In post 270, Heartless wrote:
In post 269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't really like the assumptions he made about the setup.
???

what are these?
Check .
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Post Post #273 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:12 pm

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In post 272, PrettyPrincess wrote:What assumptions specifically do you not like?
Singleball. I think it's foolish to assume that this early.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:25 pm

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In post 275, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 273, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 272, PrettyPrincess wrote:What assumptions specifically do you not like?
Singleball. I think it's foolish to assume that this early.
In post 1, Firebringer wrote:This game is confirmed singleball (Rebels vs Empire)
Read....the....OP.

/Gin
Yeah I never read the OP :lol:
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Post Post #290 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:45 pm

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In post 284, Desperado wrote:
In post 103, PrettyPrincess wrote:This game is
confirmed
singleball with 17 players
@LUV so when PP said those why did you interpret it as an assumption?
Overall tone of the post.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:15 am

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In post 302, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 282, Desperado wrote:Q: Would LUV dumbtell like that as scum?
Not sure, leaning towards no

@LUV Has anyone other than me in this game played with you before?
Ari, Nero, Pine, ThinkBig, and Titus.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:17 am

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Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.

VOTE: SirCakez
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Post Post #312 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:40 am

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I'm not really seeing why people are scum reading KL. Entrance was awkward and the over justification for the prod dodge is a bit of a concern but she at least gave some reads. She'll have to explain those when she gets back at least and if there is more than just what has been discussed, she'll have to interact with that as well. I rather wait and see with her.
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Post Post #356 (isolation #21) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:52 am

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In post 328, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.

VOTE: SirCakez
Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"

/Gin
I'm scum reading SC because I found that he's not really taking any initiative and his case on Titus is poor.

Take his for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.

In his and , he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.

I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in . I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
In post 339, SirCakez wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 281, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 198, SirCakez wrote:How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?
Cakez, I'm concerned about your question as it's feels like a loaded one. Correct me if I'm wrong but you're asking why a townie should act...townie.

It just feels like you're saying people aren't acting scummy and you want them too.

/Gin
Yeah I'm dumping this point. I was wrong I think, too much evidence to the contrary.
In post 285, PrettyPrincess wrote:"Confirmed" is used by newer (read: bad) players the way that millennials use "literally"
As a millennial this both offends me and is also probably true
In post 292, Heartless wrote:
In post 279, SirCakez wrote:
In post 265, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 264, SirCakez wrote:Someone hasn't posted while on V/LA? Must be scum...
Wasn't what I was implying...

Ari tends to lurk as scum and I was suggesting to PP if they would like to see if this is him pulling that once him and TB come back.
Not you, Heartless's

LUV is pinging me
the SAAAAAAASS

i only saw the v/la post after i flipped the page from fire's prod post.

ari still has a reputation for being a lurksack as scum so i don't know why you would go out of your way to give me shit for that.
I'm aware of Ari's lurking as scum, I just wanted to make a joke.
In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 257, SirCakez wrote:This avoids the question
No it doesn't. You asked why you would fake your response, I said you probably couldn't help but fake it.
Not that, the "what is fake about it?" that was the initial question.

Nero scumreading me is unsurprising, probably town really as I think he'd want to keep me around for a later mislynch as scum
LUV's "I read his ISO and older games and don't think this is town!cakez" is total bullshit though, especially since it came right after I said he was pinging me
Molla's naked voting is shity too but iirc Molla never explains things
Princess's complete lack of game awareness with their vote on me for Rogue Leader is odd but I want to say it's derptown, as I think scum wouldn't want to stick out so much with trying to put someone being wagoned in a power position
I'm not really scumreading Titus anymore (she's null now) so

VOTE: AJ

P-edit: Hi TTH! I'm not avoiding you guys, I just didn't think to ask about your Princess read. TBH I can't remember why I was town reading them which isn't really a good sign so I'm going to reread them and Klingon since Klingon is being wagoned and I have no read there.
My LUV scumread was initially from how it feels like he's following the crowd (sheeping my alban scumread, sheeping a vote for Infinity rogue leader, sheeping Molla on Piper's post restriction being annoying) and then jumping to respond to a joke that wasn't aimed at him felt weird. And then his vote with some really weak reasons on me is terrible.

VOTE: AJ
Reposting this in case Fire misses my vote in the spoiler
A couple of your points are blatant misrepresentation.

1.) I'm not scum reading Alban and I never was. He's been null for me since the start.
2.)The joke you made about v/LA wasn't clear who it was directed towards.
3.) I didn't give more than one reason prior to this post for why I'm voting for you.
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Post Post #370 (isolation #22) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:36 am

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In post 359, Desperado wrote:
In post 312, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'm not really seeing why people are scum reading KL. Entrance was awkward and the over justification for the prod dodge is a bit of a concern but she at least gave some reads. She'll have to explain those when she gets back at least and if there is more than just what has been discussed, she'll have to interact with that as well. I rather wait and see with her.

All of her reads were townreads. Which alignment do you propose is more likely to give out townreads like candy, especially that early, especially when they don't think
literally anything that's been discussed up to that point was alignment indicative?
Generally scum but I think it comes down to play style. Some people prefer town hunting or are better at town hunting than others.
In post 363, Infinity 324 wrote:LUV, how do you see the difference between your town and scum meta? Do you think you could fake your town meta as scum?
Hard to say really since I always get that I'm a hard read as either alignment. I will say that I'm more loose as town but I'm not sure if that's the right word. Definitely think I can fake my town game though.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #23) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:43 am

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In post 365, SirCakez wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 354, Infinity 324 wrote:Well

That's why I asked for anyone else
Riiight.
In post 355, Titus wrote:
In post 353, SirCakez wrote:I would <.<
I feel like no matter what I say you're gonna keep scumreading me anyway tho
@infinity
Don't play the pity me card. I will vote you on principle. Fibd scum. Not this vote the popular wagon crap.
I wasn't trying to get pity, I was telling off Infinity for acting like what I answered would actually affect his opinions
And I'm voting AJ, who is definitely not a popular wagon right now
In post 356, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 328, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.

VOTE: SirCakez
Can you carry on this train of thought? Anyone can read and it doesn't tell us much, I want to know what stood out to you and made you think "scum"

/Gin
I'm scum reading SC because I found that he's not really taking any initiative and his case on Titus is poor.

Take his for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.

In his and , he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.
Ok yes I could have done more to lift the game state when it was dead, I admit.
But how can you say I haven't followed up my AJ suspicions? I'm voting him.
I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in . I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
The spirits thing was a joke. Why can't I make a joke while making a serious vote?
The "effort is NAI" thing I've already spent a while arguing over, and I've realized it's wrong since.
-snip big quote-

A couple of your points are blatant misrepresentation.

1.) I'm not scum reading Alban and I never was. He's been null for me since the start.
2.)The joke you made about v/LA wasn't clear who it was directed towards.
3.) I didn't give more than one reason prior to this post for why I'm voting for you.
-Your "you're overreacting" post aimed at alban was definitely implying a scumread
-I thought it was, but I'm biased since I asked so I'll leave you alone on that.
-You gave "Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC."
Which is presumably meta and a dislike of some kind of my posts (???). So two reasons, if you will. Not really a big deal, but both of those reasons suck without being backed up.


Also, Alban's recent posts read like scum fluffing trying to avoid producing serious content
alban wrote:
In post 144, Heartless wrote:alban, which alignment do you prefer to play?
Most definitely town.

But I am good as scum too. In the two games I was scum, I won one, and in the other I was unfortunately night-killed by the serial killer :( but had I been alive, I wouldn't be caught I think. Gin was a part of it.

There was one more on one other site which went terribly for me coz I misunderstood the rules of the greater mafia set-up. I unfortunately revealed something which caught up to me, all coz it was my first time playing that set-up and coz mod didn't get back to me about my queries.

In short, I am comf-ier playing town, but I could turn out to be a sly mafia. I have a guilty conscience as mafia which I think reflects in my posts and makes my posts appear pretty town-like. Also probably coz people think I am too dumb to be a mafia :facepalm: Usual suspects kinda scenario I guess. Which helps me escape lynches effectively.
alban wrote:Oh yeah. It was Jin. Not you.
1.) No it was not implying a scum read at all. If it was, I would've voted for him when I said it.
2.) I mentioned I reread your ISO to make it clear how I came to the conclusion that this isn't your town game. My only reason given there was meta.
3.) I missed your vote on AJ but the point still stands for now, but to be fair he hasn't been here to answer questions you may have for him.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:05 pm

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In post 450, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 445, Heartless wrote:well his title is "couplet typer" so i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is a posting gimmick
Oh. That does explain things.

That's irritating.

VOTE: LUV

LUV is mostly a gut read. It's based on a broad reading of their ISO, nothing specific. Sorry, it's a boring game, people are playing things close to the vest, and Titus has been reasonable lately.
Any posts of mine in particular giving you that gut feeling?
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Post Post #457 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:06 pm

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Piper's restriction seems bastard for scum so if it's real, I'm leaning town on him.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:11 pm

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Well I mean, how you would describe my demeanor and attitude?
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Post Post #461 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:17 pm

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Use a different word please :lol:
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Post Post #463 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:20 pm

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Honestly that's how I play. I get some variation of what you said practically every game.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:21 pm

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Maybe I need to play more like KainTepes :(
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Post Post #467 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:29 pm

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In post 465, Infinity 324 wrote:LUV, would you say you played that way in the newbie game?
No, I'd like to think so at least. My play style has drastically changed since then. I was more fencesitty and cautious.
In post 466, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 464, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Maybe I need to play more like KainTepes :(
No.
But Kain is the best mafia player ever.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 11:38 pm

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In post 468, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 467, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I'd like to think so at least. My play style has drastically changed since then. I was more fencesitty and cautious.
Wait but pine's criticism
is
that you're being too safe/cautious.
I think what he ultimately means is calacuating and shrewd, which is a bit different than cautious.

Point is, I don't think how I played in the newbie is anything like I'm playing now.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #32) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:05 pm

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@Mod: Replace me. I'm not really feeling this game.


Best of luck to both sides!

~Noted
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Post Post #548 (isolation #33) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:20 pm

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Hey I'm back.

Didn't want to write notes because I'm lazy.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:23 pm

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In post 529, mastina wrote:Infinity
Drunken Piper
alban
Aeronaut
AJ the Epic
Indigo
Heartless
Desperado
Titus
Klingoncelt
LUV
Nero
Molla
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Why do you have Aero and Indigo so high?
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Post Post #552 (isolation #35) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:26 pm

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In post 550, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Nero or Infinity can do me the solid here but both Pine told me that Nero is bleeding town and Infinity is saying Nero has a distinct scum game so could I get a link of one of his games as town and scum? I'd like to be in the loop if anyone brings up an argument for town/scum Nero in regards to meta.

I'd just like some eye candy for when I'm at work tomorrow because I don't like phone-posting that much but I can still read.

/Gin
This is probably not scum!Nero:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=68980
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Post Post #617 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:33 pm

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In post 582, mastina wrote:
In post 549, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why do you have Aero and Indigo so high?
Because they're town, yo.
Help me see what you're seeing.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:22 pm

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In post 622, Heartless wrote:
In post 617, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 582, mastina wrote:
In post 549, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why do you have Aero and Indigo so high?
Because they're town, yo.
Help me see what you're seeing.
when you have a second could you plz say a word or two about what tth said in , particularly about the klingon post
I wasn't defending KL nor did I say the scum reads on her are problematic. I was just stating how I felt about her prod dodge post and how I will be approaching her this game.
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Post Post #722 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:22 pm

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In post 622, Heartless wrote:
In post 617, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 582, mastina wrote:
In post 549, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why do you have Aero and Indigo so high?
Because they're town, yo.
Help me see what you're seeing.
In post 635, mastina wrote:
In post 617, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 582, mastina wrote:
In post 549, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why do you have Aero and Indigo so high?
Because they're town, yo.
Help me see what you're seeing.
I mean I quoted their posts where I declared them town, so.
That you did, thing is I'm still not seeing what you're seeing. Could you try breaking it down? Why am I sensing a bit of resistance here?
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Post Post #723 (isolation #39) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:22 pm

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In post 702, BBmolla wrote:I think Nero is the only person reading this game the same as me


wtf are you all reading
Why aren't you sheeping Nero on SC if you're claiming you two are reading the game the same way?
In post 705, BBmolla wrote:Infinity is controversial enough that he shouldn't be Rogue Leader. I'm uncomfortable with them as Rogue Leader can we choose someone else please, doesn't have to be Nero
What's so controversial about Infinity? I'd argue KL, Mastina, and Titus have been more controversial than Infinity has been.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:00 am

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In post 725, BBmolla wrote:
In post 723, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why aren't you sheeping Nero on SC if you're claiming you two are reading the game the same way?
I'm fine with SC lynch but AJ is more obviously scum
I don't know. My past experiences with AJ have led me to believe he gets scum read for his personality and play style a lot. I liked a few of the things he brought up about SC and the Heartless for Rouge Leader vote is interesting. The latter goes against the grain a bit and I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.

In post 749, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.

VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics
I want to based off her experience, but so far, her confidence hasn't been too assuring.
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Post Post #755 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:13 am

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In post 754, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 753, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.
Hmm, really? What risk would that be in this particular case?
The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:28 am

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In post 756, Infinity 324 wrote:Not sure how that attention would be a bad thing though. He's already drawing attention to himself with his unorthodox play.
Yes but he's a player I feel that is set in his ways in terms of play style. He can't help it at this point. Voting for Rouge Leader is something he can control.
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Post Post #787 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:20 am

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In post 760, Desperado wrote:
In post 753, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't know. My past experiences with AJ have led me to believe he gets scum read for his personality and play style a lot. I liked a few of the things he brought up about SC and the Heartless for Rouge Leader vote is interesting. The latter goes against the grain a bit and I don't think scum would want to take such a risk standing out.
Voting for a townread is risky?

lol
It's not just voting for a town read. Whoever the Rouge Leader is for the night is in charge of making sure they can trust whatever classified information they may be able to receive or plans to sort out a players alignment with the players they choose. This means that you really have to have good reasons to vote someone with such responsibility, as it's easy for one to influence the players they've chosen for the night or be influenced and duped themselves.
In post 761, Desperado wrote:
In post 755, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:The popular choices for Rouge Leader have been you and Nero. Voting someone else without an explanation for Rouge Leader like AJ did could lead to unnecessary attention.
I kinda feel like LUV is just making shit up right now

cuz this is bad
Why's it bad?
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Post Post #788 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:21 am

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In post 765, The Thinker wrote:
In post 753, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 725, BBmolla wrote:
In post 749, Klingoncelt wrote:I'm amazed that everyone hasn't auto-sheeped Mastina.

VOTE: Pine-A-Tonics
I want to based off her experience, but so far, her confidence hasn't been too assuring.
What Mastina experience do you have upon which this is based!?
I've read a few of her articles and just a lot of her theory on mafia seems very solid. I think she's one of the best players on MS.
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Post Post #824 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:27 pm

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In post 792, Desperado wrote:@ LUV: It's bad because you are suggesting that AJ as scum would feel pressured to go with the crowd on the Rogue Leader vote when that just isn't true. He doesn't even have to think infinity is scum to justify it either, he just needs to be able to defend what he is declaring as his best townread.

^This is not a risky thing to do as scum and suggesting otherwise is...bad.
Maybe if you think too much in generalizations.
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Post Post #1005 (isolation #46) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:49 am

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In post 836, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 104, Aj The Epic wrote:FWIW your math is wrong. You take the percentage of the whole populace, not the assumed scum:town ratio. 4/17 is 23% scum ration, 5/17 is 29%. Not that it's completely relevant to anything, but that's how you'd measure it.
Aj's posting at this point is what seems like just enough to be just enough.

e.g. it's nothing
In post 112, SirCakez wrote:I assume it's 13 v 4 like Firebringer's last 17 player large theme.

In other news I reconnected with the spirits and they've tentatively told me that the Piper and Princess are town and that alban is scummy (i;e I reread the game to answer Heartless's question and noticed that alban was sort of dodging the Titus issue on page 2 which doesn't look good).
As were like half the thread, especially including the player in the post above?
In post 146, Titus wrote:
In post 142, Infinity 324 wrote:People can still talk about me, but that doesn't mean I have to address every point when I don't believe anything good will come out of it.
The selective push does tell things to me. Namely, that whatever your alignment is, you're likely doing something scum want. The hyper, extreme defense of your awkward push on Pine says as much. Then people pretend you were not trying. Major bullshit. Even if you argue senantics on awkward, you were trying to have Pine lynched.
No, not in any way, no. Infinity was not trying to have Pine lynched on page 1. You could argue that he could have been trying to get votes to go and therefore stay in that direction, you could argue that he was trying to look busy, but you definitely can't argue that he was trying to lynch a player in RVS.
In post 237, Nero Cain wrote: what was the best star wars movie?
This one.
In post 269, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I like that he was one of the first people to mention that we should discuss who should be the Rouge Leader for Night 1. I don't really like the assumptions he made about the setup. Null overall.
Um, what exactly about that made you like him? If anything, that's NAI. Scum can take initiative too. Also, I know later on you realized that he knew about the setup from the OP, but of you were concerned that he knew too much, why not share that earlier instead of waiting for someone to ask?
In post 272, PrettyPrincess wrote:What assumptions specifically do you not like?
PP comes out of the woodwork just to inquire about himself; doesn't seem like someone whose trying to solve the game to me :good:
In post 295, Klingoncelt wrote:Just a prod dodge here, I don't need to get involved with VCA arguments or multi/singleball arguments, most of the discussion here has been empty fluff worthy of a Victorian-era luncheon.

Good entrance by Nero, maybe he's Town. I always Townread TTH. Molla and the Piper look Townish. No reads at all on everyone else.
Kling in in exactly the same boat as PP.
In post 301, Infinity 324 wrote:(But I like the other parts of the post as well)
... Go on?
In post 838, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 310, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah after a review of his ISO and just from rereading old games I don't think this is town!SC.

VOTE: SirCakez
This is god awful.
In post 331, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:About the Rogue Leader thing, I think it's a disservice to vote yourself as captain. The way it's set up, it's like we can vote to lynch someone and that's who we think is scummy, as for voting for rogue leader, it's like voting for who your strongest town read is.

Basically, if you're town, then people will see that and you'll be elected and it seriously discredits a whole other dimension to the game that can be analyzed if you vote yourself.

/Gin
Yeah, I feel the same way here. I think the rogue leader votes are going to be important later on to look back on, so voting yourself really isn't helpful to anyone. I'm also someone who loves the use of neighborhoods/neighborizors in general, for anyone that's played my games, and I think they're a lot more powerful than most people give them credit for.
In post 336, Heartless wrote:
In post 279, SirCakez wrote:
In post 265, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 264, SirCakez wrote:Someone hasn't posted while on V/LA? Must be scum...
Wasn't what I was implying...

Ari tends to lurk as scum and I was suggesting to PP if they would like to see if this is him pulling that once him and TB come back.
Not you, Heartless's

LUV is pinging me
Hi Cakey! ^_^

Anti told me to talk to you because he thought you were being horsey with him. I'm having a little trouble getting a bead on you since we're really out of step in terms of reads. It mildly troubles me that we've both expressed an opinion in direct opposition to yours ( and , regarding Princess) but you apparently don't want an explanation from either of us. I know you're not a random person who's never played with us so that makes me think you're avoiding us.

Can you be any more descriptive in your Princess townread or your LUV scumread? Please?

-TTH
This post along with the following one look authentically town to me; granted, I don't know the Heartless scumgame and while I assume it's pretty tight, I feel good about them for now just based on pure towny-logic alone. For one, I don't see a world where scum bothers going after Cakes for failing to respond to opposite opinions to them; if anything, it makes the most sense for scum to either let that go since it creates more opposition, or to just call it scum like the rest of us and just jump right on the wagon.

The thing that convinces me more though is that TTH is here trying to understand Cakez motivations instead of just saying "LOLZ OBVSCUM" , attacking him for it and immediately piling on which would have been easy enough. That's a towny mindset if I've ever seen it.
In post 338, Heartless wrote:
In post 295, Klingoncelt wrote:I always Townread TTH.
I remember you from Gistou but not from anything else. :S

Up to that point I'd only made two posts: and . Were you townreading either of those? I'm a little lost on the nature of this read, mostly the described history of "always townreading" me.

-TTH
Along the same lines, questioning someone's TR on yourself because it's bullshit seems overtly towny.
In post 339, SirCakez wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 281, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 198, SirCakez wrote:How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?
Cakez, I'm concerned about your question as it's feels like a loaded one. Correct me if I'm wrong but you're asking why a townie should act...townie.

It just feels like you're saying people aren't acting scummy and you want them too.

/Gin
Yeah I'm dumping this point. I was wrong I think, too much evidence to the contrary.
In post 285, PrettyPrincess wrote:"Confirmed" is used by newer (read: bad) players the way that millennials use "literally"
As a millennial this both offends me and is also probably true
In post 292, Heartless wrote:
In post 279, SirCakez wrote:
In post 265, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 264, SirCakez wrote:Someone hasn't posted while on V/LA? Must be scum...
Wasn't what I was implying...

Ari tends to lurk as scum and I was suggesting to PP if they would like to see if this is him pulling that once him and TB come back.
Not you, Heartless's

LUV is pinging me
the SAAAAAAASS

i only saw the v/la post after i flipped the page from fire's prod post.

ari still has a reputation for being a lurksack as scum so i don't know why you would go out of your way to give me shit for that.
I'm aware of Ari's lurking as scum, I just wanted to make a joke.
In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 257, SirCakez wrote:This avoids the question
No it doesn't. You asked why you would fake your response, I said you probably couldn't help but fake it.
Not that, the "what is fake about it?" that was the initial question.

Nero scumreading me is unsurprising, probably town really as I think he'd want to keep me around for a later mislynch as scum
LUV's "I read his ISO and older games and don't think this is town!cakez" is total bullshit though, especially since it came right after I said he was pinging me
Molla's naked voting is shity too but iirc Molla never explains things
Princess's complete lack of game awareness with their vote on me for Rogue Leader is odd but I want to say it's derptown, as I think scum wouldn't want to stick out so much with trying to put someone being wagoned in a power position
I'm not really scumreading Titus anymore (she's null now) so

VOTE: AJ

P-edit: Hi TTH! I'm not avoiding you guys, I just didn't think to ask about your Princess read. TBH I can't remember why I was town reading them which isn't really a good sign so I'm going to reread them and Klingon since Klingon is being wagoned and I have no read there.
My LUV scumread was initially from how it feels like he's following the crowd (sheeping my alban scumread, sheeping a vote for Infinity rogue leader, sheeping Molla on Piper's post restriction being annoying) and then jumping to respond to a joke that wasn't aimed at him felt weird. And then his vote with some really weak reasons on me is terrible.

VOTE: AJ
Reposting this in case Fire misses my vote in the spoiler
This post is incredibly wishy washy.
In post 341, Infinity 324 wrote: But that, plus the fact that TTH convinced me that PP is scummy, making klingon a bit townier, means cakez is a better vote.
What?
I think it's pretty self explanatory why I liked him. I wasn't concerned with his assumptions, I just wasn't a big fan of them since we haven't had a flip yet.

Why was my vote for SC awful?
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #47) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:53 am

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Yeah, I was way too lazy to edit things out.

I'm willing to compromise on TheThinker. How much time do we have left until deadline?
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #48) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:04 am

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Trying hard not to replace out again..

I still can't get into this game but I strongly feel there is one scum in SC, Mastina, and TheThinker

VOTE: TheThinker
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:31 am

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Quick check-in. Will comment more later.

I skimmed and I liked what Mastina said about the current game state and I think it got that way shortly after the SC wagon picked up steam. I know I've not done anything at all to jumpstart things back to life so this might sound hypocritical coming for me, but, I strongly feel it's best to look back and see why the SC wagon stagnated, who was trying to shift it, and to whom. We might find scum there.
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Post Post #1355 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 1029, Desperado wrote:AJ + {Nacho, Lil Uzi Vert}
This might be the worst post of the game.
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 1063, Drunken Piper wrote:reading and will post as I go.
will post things noted, so ya know.
In post 936, Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Heartless
welcome, what, and why?
this seems like a random vote from this guy.
In post 941, Nachomamma8 wrote:I like voting town.
if I wanted to be voting scum, i'd be voting Ari hydra.
huh

In post 985, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 949, mastina wrote:
The Thinker
Molla
SirCakez
Pine
I can compromise on a Cakes lynch if no one wants to lynch Pine-A-Tonics. Same with Thinker.
this also seems random, why these people might I ask.
this post seems empty, like a dry flask.
In post 1009, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Trying hard not to replace out again..

I still can't get into this game but I strongly feel there is one scum in SC, Mastina, and TheThinker

VOTE: TheThinker
I think this slot should be in contention for the rope.
Everything post seems to come from a bucket of nope.

(sip, DP is still reading, but does want a wall of words, breaking up post)
What do you mean by "bucket of nope"? Do you disagree with my reads? Or do want to know how I came to them?
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:25 pm

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastina

UNVOTE: Infinity for Rouge Leader[/v]
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Post Post #1358 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:25 pm

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In post 1357, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastina

UNVOTE: Infinity for Rouge Leader
EBWOP.
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Post Post #1359 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:26 pm

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I don't like any of the top leading wagons and I think we would gain more out of a Mastina lynch.
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:42 pm

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For those scum reading me for the same reasons Gin are, I encourage you all to take a look at my Wiki and see that this how I come off, regardless of alignment.
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Post Post #1380 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:48 pm

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In post 1375, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 1356, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1009, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Trying hard not to replace out again..

I still can't get into this game but I strongly feel there is one scum in SC, Mastina, and TheThinker

VOTE: TheThinker
I think this slot should be in contention for the rope.
Everything post seems to come from a bucket of nope.

(sip, DP is still reading, but does want a wall of words, breaking up post)
What do you mean by "bucket of nope"? Do you disagree with my reads? Or do want to know how I came to them?
The constant threat to replace
looks fake and is a disgrace.

also the reads lack substance and feel
false and basically unreal.
I haven't threatened anyone to replace, what are you talking about? I legit can't get into this game and it's exactly for what Mastina pointed out about the gamestate.

I asked if you'd like me to explain a read and you haven't done that so far or even asked me for a reads list so I don't get how you reached that conclusion.
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:50 pm

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In post 1376, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 1359, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't like any of the top leading wagons and I think we would gain more out of a Mastina lynch.
??
Seems pretty self explanatory what I'm saying here.
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Post Post #1383 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:51 pm

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In post 1381, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 502, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Mod: Replace me. I'm not really feeling this game.


Best of luck to both sides!

~Noted
In post 548, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Hey I'm back.

Didn't want to write notes because I'm lazy.
Where is the threats here? How are you reading my tone as hostile here or showing an intent to cause harm?
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Post Post #1386 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:54 pm

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In post 1384, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 1382, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1376, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 1359, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I don't like any of the top leading wagons and I think we would gain more out of a Mastina lynch.
??
Seems pretty self explanatory what I'm saying here.
Why do you like the wagons that lead,
easy to say, harder to explain your read
Mainly because my scum read on Mastina is mostly based on her Pine push and I think KL is town.
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #60) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:14 am

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Let's do Mastina.
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Post Post #1413 (isolation #61) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:06 am

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I really don't want to do though.

Isn't Thinker on v/LA?
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Post Post #1486 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:11 am

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Why's she scum again?
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:46 pm

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Yeah I'm sorry, I can't get into this game no matter how hard I try. I'll do my best to write something for the replacement.

@Mod: Replace me.


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Post Post #4298 (isolation #64) » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:30 pm

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Well I'll be, Mastina was scum lol

Wish I hadn't replaced out now
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