In Memory

[Frozen Angel]

can you explain to me why it makes me suspect???!!

I'm starting to get frustrated and that is not good...

OMFG I'm about to vote you DEO

cause your the only person related to the kill as far as I'm aware. I'm not done reading the game and I won't give solid opinions but I like to see where this paradox leads

[The DEO]

Pedit: I am asking because it doesn't add up unless Lycanfire is a treestump or you killed him twice.

Once to trigger death then again to stop the next day forming stuff that is not explained.

again

Lycan had no need to be killed TWICE

he just had a DELAYED death

Need no. Do I think it happened yes via Lycanfire's redirect.

Once to kill him and trigger the delayed death.
The second kill then stops the delayed death portion and outright kills him giving the flip.

[The DEO]

(All of this is Math)

[drealmerz7]

you aren't even making sense to me right now and my blood is beginning to boil

*breathes*

can you please take me through your thought process, I can't even see where you're starting from

what makes me suspect in your mind in the first place?

[Frozen Angel]

Even if X was not doing an action and he was trying to redirect X, X would have been informed about it?

[drealmerz7]

cause your the only person related to the kill as far as I'm aware.

BUT SO WHAT?!?!?! I KILLED HIM

I really don't get what the problem is

"omg he's dead and drealmer killed him"

YES, yes I DID

SO?!?!?!

[drealmerz7]

I even fucking said I was going to

GRAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

[The DEO]

Even if X was not doing an action and he was trying to redirect X, X would have been informed about it?

That is why I asked about loud and got refer to the first post.

I believe if they perform 0 actions they would however it could go either way.

If a person did 0 actions and was redirected would they get "informed"?

[Frozen Angel]

the point is you can't be the person who killed him last night

calm yourself. Your not accused of anything

[Frozen Angel]

What if scums are killing us during the day?

[The DEO]

The problem isn't that he is dead. It is that he is superdead. And you don't care to hunt why. Or who scum would have killed or anything like that. You may consider my theory insane and I myself called it tinfoil but you aren't even trying.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

just take me through it

why can't I be who killed him?

hmmm...I actually never got any PM from RC or anything about the kill...but it was seeming people weren't necessarily getting PMs about things and I didn't think a second time about it

[The DEO]

the point is you can't be the person who killed him last night

calm yourself. Your not accused of anything

Speak for yourself. I think Drealmerz is scum who got redirected to kill Lycan twice.

If Lycanfire is dayvigged would his delayed death of being able to use his night ability still trigger?

[drealmerz7]

The problem isn't that he is dead. It is that he is superdead. And you don't care to hunt why. Or who scum would have killed or anything like that. You may consider my theory insane and I myself called it tinfoil but you aren't even trying.

~~Math

no, it's not that I don't care to hunt why, it's that that is beyond my game I guess (other than what theories I've already given), please, feel free to try and figure it out if there is something to figure, that is not something I have the ability to do like you are doing, that doesn't mean you should hold it against me that it's not the avenue I'm pursuing

can you tell me what is wrong with the theories I've posed around it?

[Frozen Angel]

no a killer won't be notified of the kill normally

He had a dealyed Death. if a vig shot last night was the reason that killed him he should have been alive today

pedit : I didn't read this completly and I'm not a part of your tunnel visions I will get this done the right way

[The DEO]

just take me through it

why can't I be who killed him?

hmmm...I actually never got any PM from RC or anything about the kill...but it was seeming people weren't necessarily getting PMs about things and I didn't think a second time about it

I am saying you killed him. I am saying you double food killed him.
This can be misleading if you have a scum PT. If you didn't get a PM from RC why wasn't your first thought to ask about feedback?

[The DEO]

Double good*

[Frozen Angel]

Treestump is out of question

RC would menation treestump as treestump and would refer to lycan as treestumped not killed

it is a delayed death that happened immidiatly or the kill happened sooner.

pedit : HE can't double kill him in night omg math/

Lycan was death delayed. even with double kil he would still live FFS

[drealmerz7]

Speak for yourself. I think Drealmerz is scum who got redirected to kill Lycan twice.

OMFG then have a pre-OMGUS vote

VOTE: The DEO

I think you are just trying to write some narrative around the kill because you KNOW what happened and are trying to implicate me - probably the plan all along since I telegraphed my vig. and you probably figured lycan's claim to be somewhat true and so he wasn't the vig.

I KILLED LYCAN, scum did some shit to me or him to implicate me, and I don't even understand how or what the options really are for any of that so you're just screwing me around because you know more about rolemechanics and interactions than I do

fuckoff with that shit

[drealmerz7]

This can be misleading if you have a scum PT. If you didn't get a PM from RC why wasn't your first thought to ask about feedback?

because I killed him and he died

shocker!

[The DEO]

no a killer won't be notified of the kill normally

He had a dealyed Death. if a vig shot last night was the reason that killed him he should have been alive today

pedit : I didn't read this completly and I'm not a part of your tunnel visions I will get this done the right way

It isn't tunnel vision to ask questions of the mod and wonder why Drealmerz isn't hunting why his vig did what it did. Asking questions is the right way. It is not tunnelvision yet as I haven't stopped considering other possibilities. I just want an explanation.

Titus wants zefiend and it is her lead but it doesn't mean I don't hunt.

~~Math

[drealmerz7]

I didn't even consider that maybe I didn't kill him

if I didn't wouldn't THAT have at least generated a PM somehow that my kill failed? I think so

[Frozen Angel]

It isn't tunnel vision to ask questions of the mod and wonder why Drealmerz isn't hunting why his vig did what it did. Asking questions is the right way. It is not tunnelvision yet as I haven't stopped considering other possibilities. I just want an explanation.

lol

yep its not

keep it up

[Frozen Angel]

I didn't even consider that maybe I didn't kill him

if I didn't wouldn't THAT have at least generated a PM somehow that my kill failed? I think so

no you wouldn't receive pm if that failed

I want a link to other games you played before - and tell what were you in them exactly (link the ones you were a Power role in)

[The DEO]

The whole not a treestump is not something I buy without moderator explanation because it sure sounds like a treestump post flip. I don't know the mechanics of the delayed death but a double death to me seems if someone is still alive on the first shot hit again they die makes sense.

Either way I want an answer.

~~Math

@mod: If Lycanfire was killed at night and then killed at night again would that flip him instantly and then country doesn't reform?