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Post Post #23 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:08 am

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VOTE: infinity
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Post Post #31 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:21 pm

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In post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:You like your VCA don't you

Does CWing mean anything to you this early?

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I need flips. I can theorize with wagons but please don't try to "help" with my VCA with your votes. Just vote. Trying to help or get me to VCA on page 1 is creepy as fuck and your push on Pine reeks of desperation.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:45 pm

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In post 32, KuroiXHF wrote:VOTE: Titus

I didn't know that you were in this game.
This is not the scum you are looking for.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:03 pm

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Even I think VCA is too early for page 1, and I'm practically a pioneer of the new age analysis.

What do you think of Infinity trying to get me to do that so early?
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Post Post #49 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:41 pm

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I voted you for your desperation posting regarding Pine and your overly friendly nature, which you immediately 180ed on. You still seem to be flailing about, which is odd for page 2 and me barely posting.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:47 pm

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In post 50, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 49, Titus wrote:I voted you for your desperation posting regarding Pine and your overly friendly nature, which you immediately 180ed on. You still seem to be flailing about, which is odd for page 2 and me barely posting.
Pretty much every assertion here seems entirely premature.

Aww, Titus, we're not going to be friends this game, are we?

VOTE: Titus
#srsvote
Not if you take figuring out things before you as a sign of scumminess.

Sad cause I like being friends and I SR Infinity and he doesn't likely beg for a wagon on his buddy. You can call it "premature" but the posts speak for themselves.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:55 pm

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In post 9, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: pine

Serious vote
In post 17, Infinity 324 wrote:Don't like this counterwagon shit
In post 18, Infinity 324 wrote:You could even say I have a bad feeling about this
These three posts were you flailing for a Pine wagon.


In post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:You like your VCA don't you

Does CWing mean anything to you this early?
Overly friendly and supposing I am town doing VCA.

You 180 in your next post, voting me and abandoning your push for a Pine wagon. You look more concerned with being liked and having others at the forefront.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:00 pm

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@Infinity If I am misreading your tone, again, you're still supposing I am town here and yet you're voting me.

The followup post is even more scummy. Like you had to remind yourself of your read on page 1 or 2.

@Pine, I believe all of it, and I am well out of RVS. I have caught scum before post 20 in another game. I tunnelled too hard and town let it go.
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Post Post #67 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:14 pm

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In post 60, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 58, Titus wrote:@Infinity If I am misreading your tone, again, you're still supposing I am town here and yet you're voting me.

The followup post is even more scummy. Like you had to remind yourself of your read on page 1 or 2.

@Pine, I believe all of it, and I am well out of RVS. I have caught scum before post 20 in another game. I tunnelled too hard and town let it go.
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No, but it means I am capable of it. You were griping because no one could believe what I believe. I do.

If evidence comes to the contrary, I will reasses. Yet, as of now, Infinity is the best lead.
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Post Post #83 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:42 am

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In post 78, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 58, Titus wrote:
@Pine, I believe all of it, and I am well out of RVS. I have caught scum before post 20 in another game. I tunnelled too hard and town let it go.
such a brag, such a boast
what game dear sir, so we can toast?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... s&start=25

It was before post 30. Made a typo but still...:/
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Post Post #140 (isolation #10) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:33 am

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In post 126, Infinity 324 wrote:It's because it was a major issue you didn't address
Not everyone who disagrees with you is a major issue.

In fact, I find it pretty telling that people are suggesting I am "trying too hard" for highlighting your awkward push on Pine. Yet, no one comments on you trying to steer RVS?

When you eventually saw my points, you immediately jumped back to Pine. It sounds like you are trying to control the thread through volume and dictate no one talk about you.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #11) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:39 am

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In post 142, Infinity 324 wrote:People can still talk about me, but that doesn't mean I have to address every point when I don't believe anything good will come out of it.
The selective push does tell things to me. Namely, that whatever your alignment is, you're likely doing something scum want. The hyper, extreme defense of your awkward push on Pine says as much. Then people pretend you were not trying. Major bullshit. Even if you argue senantics on awkward, you were trying to have Pine lynched.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #12) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:39 am

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In post 144, Heartless wrote:alban, which alignment do you prefer to play?

I'm on the same wavelength with Antihero regarding the vote.
Which votes?
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Post Post #152 (isolation #13) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:32 am

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In post 151, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 146, Titus wrote:
In post 142, Infinity 324 wrote:People can still talk about me, but that doesn't mean I have to address every point when I don't believe anything good will come out of it.
The selective push does tell things to me. Namely, that whatever your alignment is, you're likely doing something scum want. The hyper, extreme defense of your awkward push on Pine says as much. Then people pretend you were not trying. Major bullshit. Even if you argue senantics on awkward, you were trying to have Pine lynched.
I don't think I get it?

Yes I was exaggerated my dislike for the counterwagon if I didn't say it already. But like, it's still something to notice especially when there's not much else going on. And no, of course I wasn't pushing for a lynch on page 1.
Your "exaggeration" sure looked like pushing a Pine lynch to me.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:35 am

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Why do you have such a hard on for defending Infinity when he's back to voting you but apparently not pushing it?

I want to understand what he is doing. Why are you getting in the way?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:37 am

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And why don't you try to form one?
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Post Post #187 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 185, Nero Cain wrote:Titus has a tendency to town read those that town read her/agree with her and scum read those that scum read her/don't suck up to her
More accurately, I tend to townread honesty and scumread deception, but I am weak to people playing to my ego and people who piss me off tend to be false positives. Masons trigger as false positives for me because they know someone is town and thus do not scumhunt them.

@Infinity, if you think I'm not good at VCA, why were you asking me to do it on page 1?
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Post Post #188 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 186, SirCakez wrote:Good point.
I would like to see her address my accusation of her.
I'd like to see an accusation that can be addressed. I don't smoke weed provided by "the fates", so...
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Post Post #190 (isolation #18) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:27 pm

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In post 180, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 165, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 162, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:it feels off to have a strong personality saying she caught scum right out the gate but have the level-head to produce VCA which apparently she's good at doing.
This is titus in a nutshell
Saying you are good at VCA is like saying you are good at breathing. VCA is hilariously easy to do. Like its a decent tool but if it takes 3/4th of the player list to be dead before you can call out scum then you aren't that good to begin with.

So maybe its more Pine WKing Titus than you. I think this is incredibly bias and not really true but lets just say you agree with it...why does yjis makes you unvote Pine?

Also tell me what you liked about the AJ wagon?
Pine WKing me? He's voting me.

Pine WK Infinity sounds better.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:28 pm

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In post 24, Infinity 324 wrote:You like your VCA don't you

Does CWing mean anything to you this early?
This is a request to do VCA, Infinity.

Why are you asking me to do VCA day 1 if you think my VCA is shit?
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Post Post #196 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:31 pm

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In post 193, SirCakez wrote:
In post 192, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 186, SirCakez wrote:Good point.
You've played with her and you didn't know that?
I forgot, I haven't played with her in a while.

@Titus
In post 86, SirCakez wrote:
In post 82, Heartless wrote:go on...
Well these spirits, they told me that Titus was trying too hard too early and that she was scum trying to build early towncred. I'm just following what they said.

Hope you get better soon Aero
Yeah, I don't smoke the weed your spirits do. Trying to hard is not scummy in any way shape or form.

If your spirits are not on weed, they are absolutely on scum.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #21) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:32 pm

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In post 195, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 61, Infinity 324 wrote:Pine why do you feel the need to defend me
In post 65, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 61, Infinity 324 wrote:Pine why do you feel the need to defend me
Don't give a shit about you. There's just as much chance this is an attempt to distance from you.

What stands out is that Titus is leaping to serious conclusions based on jack all. It comes off as very contrived.

TLDR: Attacking Titus =! Defending you
In post 66, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok, that's the answer I was expecting
Did you miss this interaction titus?

Separately but related, I don't see why you think pine is trying to defend me and not just attack you. Can you explain that better?
The refusal to form an opinion on you when you've been voting him for a majority of the game, yet stating your actions appear rather town motivated. There's no effort to take you from Null.

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Post Post #202 (isolation #22) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:34 pm

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In post 198, SirCakez wrote:How is trying too hard not scummy? What's the motivation for town to try overtly hard to look town?
There is no such thing as trying to hard. I'm always full tilt. You should know this by now. You also don't seem to be reassessing this claim in light of other conversations going on. I did quote and explain how I caught scum by post 30 before, and went too hard. I was town there. I only come with Full Tilt or IRL. Why are you repeating what is said?
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Post Post #203 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:35 pm

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In post 182, Infinity 324 wrote:Uhh

Ok so thinkbig was saying what he said because he thought it was a contradiction in personality, I responded to say no that just how titus is. The thing about being good at VCA...ok, I'm not sure I completely agree with you and I'm also not sure that it matter. My point was that there's no contradiction there.

I liked thinkbig's post because the last 3 paragraphs were good observations and said in a genuine noob town way.

AJ is fluffing it up and giving commentary instead of scumhunting.
This is polite speak for VCA is shit.

Infinity, please stop lying less than 200 posts in.
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Post Post #209 (isolation #24) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:49 pm

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In post 205, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 199, Titus wrote:@Nero, My repair droid is in working order. I assure you. Take a look at Wake's Role Madness.
You're welcome to try and repair my insides anytime though.
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*barf*

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I didn't mean it like that... :(
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Post Post #211 (isolation #25) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:50 pm

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In post 206, Nero Cain wrote:but also you'll always be X-Men (and you usually are!) Titus to me.
Even in X-Men, I was half right. But yeah, when pressured early, my reads are less accurate because people justify voting me with lies.
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Post Post #213 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 208, Nero Cain wrote:VCA is junk. Drop its and sheep me, Kids.
If I'm alive Day 3+ with a scum lynch not based on a guilty and you're alive, we make a bet. My VCA versus your reading the thread. First one to be wrong sheeps the other.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:03 pm

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In post 214, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 213, Titus wrote:
In post 208, Nero Cain wrote:VCA is junk. Drop its and sheep me, Kids.
If I'm alive Day 3+ with a scum lynch not based on a guilty and you're alive, we make a bet. My VCA versus your reading the thread. First one to be wrong sheeps the other.
I don't think you are really understanding my argument or I'm not explaining it well but in the grand scheme of thngs it doesn't matter. What does matter is that Cakez is a stormtrooper and should be ejected out of the nearest exhaust pipe.
Why is he scum instead of just annoying me by not listening to what I say?
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Post Post #220 (isolation #28) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:05 pm

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I'm asking Nero. I don't trust you Infinity.

And how is it different from every other time when I'm bandwagoned for nonsense?
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Post Post #222 (isolation #29) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:12 pm

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In post 221, Nero Cain wrote:and so begins Titus' being full of herself and fucking the game over.

You say and do silly things that are not pro-town. We can lynch scum without your help. That's fine.
I am asking you to differenitate between bad town and scum. If that's full of myself, that's a long game. You've criticized me for not liking everyone who disagrees with me, so I'm asking for where to draw that distinction, and you're claiming I'm full of myself...

Ok, I'll just let you do your thing and scumhunt Cakez my own way.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #30) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:30 pm

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In post 229, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 222, Titus wrote:I am asking you to differenitate between bad town and scum. If that's full of myself, that's a long game. You've criticized me for not liking everyone who disagrees with me, so I'm asking for where to draw that distinction, and you're claiming I'm full of myself...
no you aren't. You are trying to force your view point that you get unjustifiably wagoned since I guess you have it in your mind that you are super duper town. I don't agree but ok, in the interest of getting scum lynched I am going to agree with the things you say about yourself. I think Cakez is hilariously bad as town and I am fullt aware that I have a hard time telling the difference between bad town and scum. I just think Cakez argument that you were try hard town was bad and I'm ok if that dies.
Anytime town get lynched the people responsible need to look at why. Moving onto your argument.

I'm ok with that argument that Cakez is anti-town and should die and back away from this "spirits" nonsense. I am just not sure that it's scum. I'm going to wait a bit and see what SirCakez does.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:25 am

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In post 348, PrettyPrincess wrote:and anyway, SC looks town enough so... I'm fine with my RL vote where it is
Why is SC town?
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Post Post #355 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:30 am

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In post 353, SirCakez wrote:I would <.<
I feel like no matter what I say you're gonna keep scumreading me anyway tho
@infinity
Don't play the pity me card. I will vote you on principle. Fibd scum. Not this vote the popular wagon crap.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:39 am

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Why do you give anything your scumreads want if annoying enough?
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Post Post #446 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:40 pm

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Sorry I am a we bit behind here. My pc died.

I would like to see if Heartless/Desperado/Nero can agree on crap because I TR all 3 atm.
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Post Post #452 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:06 pm

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In post 447, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 445, Heartless wrote:well his title is "couplet typer" so i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this is a posting gimmick
Oh lol
In post 446, Titus wrote:Sorry I am a we bit behind here. My pc died.

I would like to see if Heartless/Desperado/Nero can agree on crap because I TR all 3 atm.

Me too
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Post Post #578 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:51 pm

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In post 519, Desperado wrote:The game definitely hasn't hit it's stride yet--even normally high-frequency posters like Titus seem like nonentities 20 pages in.

I'm not really buying the Cakez wagon--Aero is RVS, Alban is giving off a lot of scum vibes and his vote was RVS and then it became real, Nero looks town but his vote is fencesitty trash, Uzi said something about rereading old games and this not being TownCakes but then built a case that didn't include a single word about meta, and AJ said Cakez is scum for voting him after only mentioning him once
in the same post that he votes Cakez without ever mentioning him before at all
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I want Klingoncelt dead.

You've already joined me on Infinity for Rogue Leader.

Think that's about it really.
Why can't you just have good judgment all the way around?
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Post Post #579 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:52 pm

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In post 520, mastina wrote:
In post 153, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Boring game is boring. Star Wars should not be boring. Moar Titus votes.
Fuckit.

VOTE: Pine.
When I get a chance to lynch a scum Pine.

Yer damn right I'm gonna take that chance to lynch his scummy ass.
Waaaait...Mastina's here too...

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Post Post #583 (isolation #38) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:55 pm

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In post 525, mastina wrote:
In post 358, Indigo wrote:I am sorry, i am here, i have read up to page 11 but wanted to post to say that i am almost caught up but it appears that i have 3 hours left to pick up my prod. I am here.
Town.
Don't see it. He seems aware enough to press the fact 3 hours until replace but has done less than i have.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #39) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:56 pm

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In post 526, mastina wrote:
In post 396, Desperado wrote:Yo, Cakez wagon; you sure we can't do Kling? I could quote 389-394 but that would seem redundant since it's on the same page and all.
If I had no experience with Klingoncelt, then I would probably be okay with this.

Having experience with her, the very things you're pointing out to say she's scum make me think she's town.

Sorry.
Klingon saying scummy shit is NAI, but contradicting herself makes me lean a little scum. Doubly so with Infinity's avoidance.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #40) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:58 pm

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In post 527, mastina wrote:(Also Nero may be town but it's a little too early to tell for sure there.)
I am ok with proxying my Nero read for day 1.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #41) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:59 pm

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In post 542, Desperado wrote:@ Mastina I don't buy the Cakez wagon as a righteous town wagon at all and I have no clue how you've arrived at that interpretation.
Who is scum pushing it?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #42) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:00 pm

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In post 550, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Nero or Infinity can do me the solid here but both Pine told me that Nero is bleeding town and Infinity is saying Nero has a distinct scum game so could I get a link of one of his games as town and scum? I'd like to be in the loop if anyone brings up an argument for town/scum Nero in regards to meta.

I'd just like some eye candy for when I'm at work tomorrow because I don't like phone-posting that much but I can still read.

/Gin
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Post Post #589 (isolation #43) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:01 pm

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In post 555, Desperado wrote:
In post 553, Nero Cain wrote:What do you dislike about the Cakez push? I think his vote was trash and Titus trying to write him off as bad town is fairly horrible. I think having some slight reservations is not the fencesitting you claim it is as town have no way to know that they are right or wrong until they flip. Also Kling is a day 3 player, leave her alone.
You said more than once that Cakez is really bad as town, I don't consider that slight reservations, I consider that having your cake and eating it too.
That's nero though...:/
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Post Post #592 (isolation #44) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:03 pm

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In post 577, mastina wrote:
In post 542, Desperado wrote:@ Mastina I don't buy the Cakez wagon as a righteous town wagon at all and I have no clue how you've arrived at that interpretation.
Well SirCakez is scum, so there's that. There maaaaaaaaaaaaaaay be bussing involved in the SirCakez wagon (would have to double-check who the voters there are), but that doesn't change the fact that he's scum. Lynching scum is lynching scum.

Which, speaking of, is why I am voting Pine.
Huh? Why not vote the bigger wagon?
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Post Post #593 (isolation #45) » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:04 pm

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In post 590, Desperado wrote:
In post 587, Titus wrote:Who is scum pushing it?
Holy fuck did you not finish the post you read to find that quote too?
Sorry been slow.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #46) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:21 pm

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That vc is a steaming pile of shit. Infinity is scum.
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Post Post #699 (isolation #47) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:33 pm

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In post 698, Heartless wrote:ok

so why aren't you pushing someone else for rogue leader?
Because all the other choices involve endorsing antitown behavior.

I would be endorsing Desperado's shit read on Infinity if I elected him, or endorsing Nero's play on the other wagons.
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Post Post #727 (isolation #48) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:34 pm

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VOTE: AJ

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Post Post #862 (isolation #49) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:33 pm

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Ok, this game is next on my catchup list tomorrow.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #50) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:10 am

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In post 839, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 836, Aeronaut wrote:... Go on?
I thought the point was a good point, and I was wondering the same question he had

Don't know what else you want
Why do you seem overly obsessed with satisying people?
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Post Post #884 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:12 am

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In post 853, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Town is fucked the day Ari decides to actually post as scum. Therefore, no meta defense saying "I don't do this as scum," IMO is ever valid. It's great to start looking into suspicions but to base a complete read on it, is highly fallible.

/Gin
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Post Post #886 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:13 am

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In post 864, BBmolla wrote:infinity are you just scum reading me cause you're mad I don't you rebel leader

like you can admit it if so it's ok
That's not why...
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Post Post #887 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:13 am

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In post 885, Infinity 324 wrote:Titus, generally when someone asks me a question, I try to answer it to their satisfaction.
So do I. Your point?
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Post Post #896 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:14 am

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Why did it stagnate though?
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Post Post #899 (isolation #55) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:25 am

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It does. Town can compromise and lynch scum. This dead drop can occur if

A) Scum are not voting
B)Town refuse to compromise

Do you think Cakez is town? What do you think of his recent posting?
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Post Post #904 (isolation #56) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:11 am

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The Klingon vote was better.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #57) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:34 pm

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In post 905, Desperado wrote:Ya, agreed. I will vote Kling whenever wherever.

It wasn't happening tho
Nor was Infinity but jyst because the group isn't smart doesn't require derping
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Post Post #962 (isolation #58) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:35 pm

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In post 916, mastina wrote:
In post 868, BBmolla wrote:mastin always misreads me though, so that doesn't apply to her. she actually probably "townreads" me more as scum than as town.
I'm pretty sure my ability to correctly read you has gone up with time.

Same with Pine, really.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #59) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:37 pm

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In post 923, mastina wrote:
In post 895, Desperado wrote:@ Cakez wagon: who else will you guys lynch? It's stagnating and I don't see anyone trying to push it forward.
Aside from Pine-and-Gin, my current vote?

I'd vote The Thinker.
I've laid out my reasons for why Molla is scum.

I'm pretty sure that's our scumteam: SirCakez, Pine, The Thinker, and Molla, so I'd prefer not to vote outside of there.
MASSIVELY prefer not to vote outside of there.
Like, you could maybe talk me into spite-voting a more nullish read like LUV, but I'd vote there fully expecting a town flip rather than a scum one.

If you want to lynch scum, lynch Pine.
Else, lynch Cakez.
Else, Molla.
Else, TheThinker.
Weren't you just saying Pine could read BBMolla? Now they're buddies?
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Post Post #964 (isolation #60) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:38 pm

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In post 928, TheWayItEnds wrote:
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Post Post #965 (isolation #61) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:40 pm

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In post 931, mastina wrote:
In post 918, Firebringer wrote:Pine-A-Tonics [2] mastina, Klingoncelt
SirCakez [4] alban, Nero Cain, Lil Uzi Vert, Aj The Epic
mastina [2] Drunken Piper, The Thinker
Lil Uzi Vert [1] Pine-A-Tonics
Aj The Epic [4] SirCakez, BBmolla, Titus, Desperado
The Thinker [2] Infinity 324, Heartlesss
Not Voting - [2] Gamma Emerald, Aeronaut

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Desperado (1) Infinity 324,
BBMolla (1): Titus
Infinity 324 (5): Desperado, Drunken Piper, Lil Uzi Vert, Heartless, Mastina
Nero Cain (2): BBmolla, Pine-A-Tonics
Heartless (3): Nero Cain, AJ The Epic, The Thinker, Klingoncelt
Like, this was our last-given VC and I think the votecount here kinda speaks for itself. The SirCakez wagon? Basically while there's the ever so slightest chance of Nero being scum bussing (I don't think so), or LUV being scum bussing (still don't think so), it's town.
Contrast the AJ the Epic wagon, which has SirCakez and Molla voting it back-to-back. Similarly, the Rogue Leader vote has Molla and Pine back-to-back on Nero. A fair sign Nero's probably not scum (I don't think scum would advocate strongly for a scumbuddy to be the Rogue Leader), but also a fair sign that they want to avoid giving it to Infinity, who is pretty damn solidly an all-town wagon.
You'd have to be postulating scum voting back to back, which doesn't happen often.

If that's true, the only reason to be so hapazard is if SC was a scum important role they needed to save.
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Post Post #966 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:40 pm

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In post 933, Nachomamma8 wrote:oh yeah
I also have a one-shot secret vote
if I were scum I'd use it to quickhammer town power approximately 100% of the time
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Post Post #967 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:42 pm

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In post 949, mastina wrote:Infinity
Drunken Piper
Nacho
Aeronaut
AJ the Epic
TWIE

Heartless
Desperado
Titus
Klingoncelt

Nero
LUV

The Thinker
Molla
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Thereabouts. Molla, SirCakez, and TheThinker are all pretty equal; LUV and Nero keep trading places; the lines in the town list are a bit arbitrary and I could place dividers between Drunken Piper-Nacho, Nacho-Aeronaut, Aeronaut-AJ, Heartless-Desperado, Desperado-Titus, and Titus-Klingoncelt; I cold remove the divider between Heartless and TWIE; I could keep the dividers exactly as they are and switch around almost any of the names in most sections; it's a really, really loose approximation.
Why is Aero so high and Heartless so low?
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Post Post #981 (isolation #64) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:24 am

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Bb, stop arguing with scum. It gives him legitimacy.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:10 am

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In post 986, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 964, Titus wrote:
In post 928, TheWayItEnds wrote:
vote: thinker
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:57 pm

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Desp, doing VCA without flips....why? It's setting yourself up for confbias.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #67) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:58 pm

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In post 1012, TheWayItEnds wrote:...ok but what do sharks have to do with that
He likely didn't have a bitch gif.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:59 pm

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Desp, can we agree on a rogue leader? Both choices suck
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 999, Nachomamma8 wrote:people are writing antihero off too easily.
his scum game ends up being bad on average but he has okay scum range (aka he does have the ability to turn it on); he's not out of scum range yet. doesn't mean he's a great lynch (my vote was more "hi!" which is why whoever asked me about it got a snark answer), but it does mean that all of the confidence around him is misplaced.

@titus who has her eye on me: why give a warning signal to Nacho!scum that you're onto him? why not do something infinitely more useful and push me/ask me about something?
I don't think you're scum. I also know that my schedule and your style do not mesh well with an outright push on you even if I did. Still, probable town with unbridled power make the dumbest decisions.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #70) » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:28 pm

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@SC, Nacho, underwhelming? Really?

You t


@SC, Nacho as underwhelming? And trying to dismiss him? He's been pretty focused on drawing me out.
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #71) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:29 am

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In post 1179, Desperado wrote:
In post 1164, Infinity 324 wrote:Pine is the scummiest viable wagon imo, so I voted pine. Thats all there is to it.
Then make another wagon viable. You have town cache and you're just limply voting with a scumread?

What the fuck?
That's because he is scum. Join me.

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Post Post #1188 (isolation #72) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:29 am

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VOTE: Infinity
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #73) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:40 am

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In post 1190, Desperado wrote:
In post 1187, Titus wrote:BBMolla sees it. You see it. Together, we can do something awesome.
No, I don't see it.

You're scummy for suggesting otherwise.
You literally just quoted a reason why Infinity is scum. They've been hyper agreeable all game without actually pushing their own scumreads and awkwardly buddying me.
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #74) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:41 am

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You just disagree with my conclusion.
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #75) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:47 am

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In post 1198, Desperado wrote:
In post 1196, Titus wrote:You literally just quoted a reason why Infinity is scum. They've been hyper agreeable all game without actually pushing their own scumreads and awkwardly buddying me.
Thinker was Infinity's wagon.

Whatever you think is being biased by what you perceive his relationship to you as being. Step outside of that.
Dude, I am not biased by baggage. I see buddying when I see it. You have too. I just don't get why people cannot get to the last finish line and vote him to actually have a decent wagon.

People tell me I post too much, and that's why my d1 scum targets don't get lynched. Now people complain it's not enough. I wait for people to see it. They do...but nothing.

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Post Post #1202 (isolation #76) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:48 am

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In post 1199, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1195, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
In post 1193, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 295, Klingoncelt wrote:Just a prod dodge here, I don't need to get involved with VCA arguments or multi/singleball arguments, most of the discussion here has been empty fluff worthy of a Victorian-era luncheon.

Good entrance by Nero, maybe he's Town. I always Townread TTH. Molla and the Piper look Townish. No reads at all on everyone else.
Alright, so I don't like it when people openly admit to prodging but I don't have enough experience to judge if it's AI or not. What I don't like here is that she's saying she doesn't need to get involved in two arguments she listed, but the thing is; is that it was more than just talking about game mechanics/tools.

Like, IIRC there was discussion of white knighting, opinions on counterwagons and overreactions about said arguments beforehand. It feels like an overall generalization to make it look like it was not worth looking into at all when there was actually content in there to begin with.

Also, there is no way it wasn't said before but I'm getting bad vibes from the fact that not a single person pinged as scummy.

Actually after typing that, it really doesn't make much sense at all to say the "VCA and Multi/Singleball arguments" meant nothing but could find that people were townish during that period of posting.

/Gin
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I agree with you, I also found that post scummy
Why? You're voting Pine but you agree with his scumhunting now. You just really need everyone to like you don't you.
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #77) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:58 am

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In post 1203, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Titus, how much input have you put forward about Klingon?
None. They're a dead slot due to their IRL issues. I'd lynch them at deadline but they're not even doing their usual post from behind catchup that stops posts short. They are likely to be replaced.
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:01 am

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In post 1205, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1202, Titus wrote:Why? You're voting Pine but you agree with his scumhunting now. You just really need everyone to like you don't you.
Just because someone is somewhat scummy doesn't mean everything they say is wrong. Plus, some of those things were already pointed out. I agreed that post was scummy at the time, and I agree now.
Yeah, but you're just voting whatever is popular. You're not doing analysis to see whether the popular wagon is correct or not. Rather, you are playing it safe. If Pine's wagon crumbles, you've buddied him too.
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Post Post #1209 (isolation #79) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:08 am

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In post 1208, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1206, Titus wrote:Yeah, but you're just voting whatever is popular. You're not doing analysis to see whether the popular wagon is correct or not. Rather, you are playing it safe. If Pine's wagon crumbles, you've buddied him too.
What was that whole thing with mastin if not "doing analysis"?

Now tell me how being suspicious of mastin and heartless is "playing it safe" or "going with the crowd".
You're not suspicious of them. Offhand comments you do nothing with are not suspicion.

Both Heartless and Mastina are pushing Pine. You claim to see townie things in Pine. Yet, you're voting with your alleged suspicions and buddying your vote target. You are also trying to limit viable wagons.

So pardon me if I don't buy your routine of going against the grain.
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #80) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:17 am

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You're trying to cut off the wagons when the highest scumread you have is a null at 5 days left?

Dude, all the major wagons are town. Calling it.
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #81) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:23 am

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In post 1216, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1166, Infinity 324 wrote:I'd rather lynch town than no one.
But why try to make the lynch wagons just town? Why are you creating a false dilemma of limited time?

I got lynched in 5 minutes before in another game.

Each slot must post once every two days. Lots of time.
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Post Post #1222 (isolation #82) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:24 am

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In post 1218, Pine-A-Tonics wrote:Titus, you have a chance of being right if LUV wasn't a wagon.


Infinity, you got me fucked up saying you just vote who you think you can lynch instead of voting who you think is the scummiest.
Dude, vote Infinity with me and we can have out whether Infinity thought LIV was viable tomorrow.
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #83) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:25 am

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In post 1221, Desperado wrote:Titus, your opinion on Kling also appears to be biased by something that not everyone is privy to. She hasn't even been formally prodded and she's posted within the last 24 hours. There's no indication that she's going to be replaced and she has more than enough content to build a read.
Everyone who plays with Klingon is privvy to them being perpetually behind in larges.

She has nothing but I am town and will catch up later to me. If I cannot engage someone, I cannot read them.
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #84) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:30 am

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In post 1224, Desperado wrote:If you can't talk with someone in real time you can't read them?
Generally until VCA comes out, I will not feel confident in a read barring a scumslip or something really scummy yeah. Real time pisting exposes the logical flaws that get to the root of what people believe.

Like right now, you're positing that Klingon is scum for the repeated self vouching. I'd agree with that but for that being obvious Grandma NAI. If someone else repeatedly said, I'm town while doing little else, I would expect your vote there.

Without the interaction, it's harder to get a read.
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #85) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:33 am

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Nothing. I would vote it if I had to. It's a nullread for me though. I feel better about Infinity.

Let me guess, this is the time where you're telling me there's a sub 20% chance Infinity gets lynched today and I need to vote Klingon?

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Post Post #1235 (isolation #86) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:34 am

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Fine, but we do Infinity tomorrow.

VOTE: Klingoncelt
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #87) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:40 am

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I am going to go shoot things in Xcom. If you want to be in my character pool, post in the Arcade.

I also have a Upick mimi in signups.

I will check back later.
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #88) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:51 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=92&t=65069

Yup, I did a recording once when xcom 2 came out but my pc couldn't handle it.

Since my PC died, I am doing a new one Gin.
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Post Post #1407 (isolation #89) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 9:56 pm

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:facepalm: TTH is TellTaleHeart, a head of Heartless.

Heartless, why can't we have shiny lynches on ebil people?
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Post Post #1439 (isolation #90) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:16 am

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I struggle to see how this is College Mafia Ari, SirCakez.

Meanwhile, Klingon shows up, says she's town, does little scumhunting and you hope off. Infinity does too. #sideeye
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Post Post #1454 (isolation #91) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:39 am

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In post 1453, Heartless wrote:
In post 1439, Titus wrote:I struggle to see how this is College Mafia Ari, SirCakez.
simple

ari wasn't scum in college mafia
He was the evil serial killer.
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #92) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:40 am

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In post 1440, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1275, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1183, Desperado wrote:I could also vote LUV but I'd rather see AJ and/or Cakez flip before I make a determination on that.
just to clarify your lynch order is Kling>>>AJ>>>>cakez>>>Luv?
In post 1234, Heartless wrote:Infinity, Nacho, Desperado, and Aeronaut are my choices.
Why was I kicked out?
In post 1273, Infinity 324 wrote:mastin is too good of a potential town player to get rid of d1.
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Yes that's the real reason DP. And I think they're scummy obviously.
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #93) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:01 am

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In post 1456, Desperado wrote:
In post 1454, Titus wrote:He was the evil serial killer.
And we all know you know that SKs play to their town meta, not scum, so...???
No. SK personality tell, the only meta worth anything, is to scum meta because if they get lynched, they lose.
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Post Post #1459 (isolation #94) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:08 am

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Can't blame a girl for trying.
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Post Post #1487 (isolation #95) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:15 am

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VOTE: Infinity
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #96) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:00 am

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Why can't we lynch Infinity? He's Sir Sheeps a lot.
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #97) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:02 am

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In post 1492, Nero Cain wrote:
vote:Titus
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just a reminder that these two are still scum.

I'm ok with a Kling lynch later on.
All you are "reminding" people of is your inherent biases, at best.

Now, why are you not voting Infinity?
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #98) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:11 am

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In post 1496, Desperado wrote:Hey Titus, your infinity read is straight garbage.

Vote someone else. Preferrably Kling.

Thanks!
Why? Did you not read the same EoD yesterday?
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Post Post #1499 (isolation #99) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:17 am

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In post 1497, Infinity 324 wrote:@Titus Without using pre-flip associatives, who is scum other than me?
I am a social psychologist. I read people by how they relate to each other. When you're telling me not to do that, you're voiding your question. That's why I also need to interact with people. I know I am town, so there's a solid point of knowledge.

I am looking next at the most suspicious slots on the Thinker train. You, jumping on anything with a pulse, fits.
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Post Post #1505 (isolation #100) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:47 am

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In post 1502, Desperado wrote:
In post 1498, Titus wrote:Why? Did you not read the same EoD yesterday?
You mean the one where Kling hammered without a claim?

Ya I saw it. Why are you pussy-footing around with a shitty vanity wagon?
Why are you pussy footing around with this, while knowing thread consensus was that he would have claimed if not vt and we needed a lynch?
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Post Post #1507 (isolation #101) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:52 am

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In post 1506, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok. So heartless, desp, me, and nacho were in the rogue crew last night, and then pine joined the crew in the middle. This creeped all of us out, but gin made some towny posts in the pt so yeah. I still think mastin/pine is SvT, and I'm strongly leaning towards mastin being the scum there.]

In the PT, TTH asked me about my LUV read so here were go.
In post 261, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Which head said this? What was the purpose of the first question?
I like this because the question's purpose wasn't obvious and it's a town mindset to make sure people aren't asking fluff questions
In post 356, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Take his for example where he described the game state. Instead of making an effort to change it, he simply just sulks and calls it dead. Prior to that post, PP had suggested that we should talk about who to vote for Rouge Leader and Titus casts a naked voted for Infinity. Those posts were things he could have commented on if he found the game was dead.

In his and , he seems to be hinting that he has a scum read on AJ and me, but doesn't follow up at all with his suspicions.

I didn't pay much attention to it the first time but after a reread I noticed how awkward he was when he voted for Titus in . I'm not sure if was a hint at a role or what but it read to me like he was trying to play his vote off as a joke because he either had a very weak reason or one that he thought wouldn't be too convincing if people questioned him on why he voted for her. The reasoning for the vote is also pretty bad. Effort is NAI and trying too hard can easily come from town who want to work with people they town read or have people sheep their reads because they are confident in them.
I thought these were all good and I believe original points.
In post 617, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 582, mastina wrote:
In post 549, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Why do you have Aero and Indigo so high?
Because they're town, yo.
Help me see what you're seeing.
This always pings me as town, scum doesn't care so much about seeing someone else's perspective and would rather push an agenda.

With that said, there was less towny in his ISO than I originally thought, and the end of his ISO is somewhat worrying to me (specifically , , and ), and I tend to weight pretty strongly someone's play when they're disengaged from the game. So LUV will go back to null I guess, maybe slightly below.
Why the hell would you out this? By withholding the names, we could have seen which of your buddies knew too much... oh wait...

If TTH asked you in the PT about a read, why not answer him in the PT?

The rhetorical help me see things us an excellent question if scum need to move a vote or want to prop up town.

So my question is, why are you publicly propping up Uzi?
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Post Post #1509 (isolation #102) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:57 am

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You sure are treating Uzi like he's town there.

I like this post... he has original thoughts, and then throwing a bit of distance at the end, so you aren't stuck with it.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #103) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:57 am

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I will need to compare who Uzi is pushing/defending there. It will tell me a fair amount about your partners.
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Post Post #1519 (isolation #104) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:23 am

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In post 1512, Infinity 324 wrote:Titus, what percent of the time when you tunnel on a player are they scum?
In what percentage of games does Nero attempt to discredit me?

I'll let my recent finished games speak for themselves. Wake's rolemadness (wrong once out of 7 or 8 in multiball). Open 661 (nailed 2 or 3 scum, died while reaction testing the third).When I lock on, the target is most likely scum.
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #105) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:44 am

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In post 1523, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: klingon
Titus what happened to wanting to wagon Klingon?
Klingon was a compromise if I couldn't get Infinity and this Klingon lynched seeming preplanned without me worries me.
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #106) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:28 am

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In post 1449, Desperado wrote:I think if they were going to claim PR, town or scum, they would have done it already.
So, did he claim VT by his actions or not?
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #107) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:05 am

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In post 1542, Desperado wrote:It doesn't matter what you interpret his actions as. I certainly never said that. Their actions said they were too busy to even respond to being at L1 and probably should have replaced out. But they didn't, and Kling hammered them without giving them the full allotment of time, and now we're here.
Telling me what I think doesn't matter is an excellent way to persuade me to get on your wagon. I would have taken that as a go ahead to hammer if I didn't think the reason The Thinker was wagoned was shit. Thinker should have replaced out. You are right there.

I'd rather focus on the scum accellerating the day and forcing dumb decisions.
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #108) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:09 am

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In post 1545, Infinity 324 wrote:I wasn't accelerating shit, it was a large with 3 days left and there was no serious wagon. Of course there's cause for concern.
You were trying to force any wagon but yourself well before 3 days.
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #109) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:15 am

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I would have quoted but you jumped votes onto major wagons under the guise of doing things, shaking things up, or biggest wagon too many times. So, basically almost every vote with a week to go.
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Post Post #1551 (isolation #110) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:22 am

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In post 1549, Infinity 324 wrote:Like, I had townreads and scumreads, they weren't a secret. I wasn't pushing randomly by any means

Again, my posts have text in them. If you don't like my reasons, explain why, but don't ignore them completely and look at my ISO as a sequence of votes.
Reasons are charisma. Scum's job is to have good reasons. I look at the behavior, not the spin.

You're wanting to spin your hop on anything attitude as town oriented because deadline.

The rest of the town may believe you. I don't. The one thing I learned is arguing with you lets you spin.

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Post Post #1553 (isolation #111) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:28 am

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In post 1552, Infinity 324 wrote:So basically you're saying hopping on wagons is scum-motivated 100% of the time no matter the reasons.

Ok...

Let's hear some other reads.
Opportunistically hopping on the largest wagons.

It's scum indicative.

You trying to strawman what I said into just moving your vote is scum indicative.

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Post Post #1583 (isolation #112) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:05 pm

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In post 1574, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1526, Titus wrote:
In post 1523, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: klingon
Titus what happened to wanting to wagon Klingon?
Klingon was a compromise if I couldn't get Infinity and this Klingon lynched seeming preplanned without me worries me.
Klingon quickhammered a vig without a claim and is near-universally scumread and you think this wagon is "preplanned"?
Yes, to defend Infinity scum.
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Post Post #1596 (isolation #113) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:57 pm

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In post 1587, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1583, Titus wrote:
In post 1574, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1526, Titus wrote:
In post 1523, SirCakez wrote:VOTE: klingon
Titus what happened to wanting to wagon Klingon?
Klingon was a compromise if I couldn't get Infinity and this Klingon lynched seeming preplanned without me worries me.
Klingon quickhammered a vig without a claim and is near-universally scumread and you think this wagon is "preplanned"?
Yes, to defend Infinity scum.
Who is scum on the wagon, then?
Haven't decided yet. There may not be. Sometimes town can be so proud and wrapped up, we tune others out. I think that is why the Thinker was lynched over Infinity.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #114) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:36 am

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In post 1684, Drunken Piper wrote:well since action on this wagon I cant get,
clearly I need to step up the threat.

PINE IS SCUM, this I KNOW.
scum probably knows why by now, but why is the town so slow.
Smack me over the head then.
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Post Post #1700 (isolation #115) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:37 am

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In post 1693, Infinity 324 wrote:@piper who do you think is scum with pine?

I think it's time for some more serious VCA
It's Day 2. Serious VCA cannot happen yet. Flips and a non guilty scumlynch needed.
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Post Post #1715 (isolation #116) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:07 am

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What guilty? But Pine playing dead is wtf...
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Post Post #1734 (isolation #117) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:01 pm

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Post Post #1782 (isolation #118) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:50 am

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In post 1776, Nero Cain wrote:I do not think its outside the realms of possibility that Molla fakeclaims that his buddy targets him. Its tinfoily and jazz but you could say the same for a still living investigation role. Titus and/or Mastin are my preferred lynches thus far.

vote:Titus
Dude, your shade hat is in full force. You are not directly counterclaiming Molla, as you're pushing my lynch instead. If my memory serves, Molla also claimed his result before the guilty.

This looks like a roundabout way of just attacking anyone who suspected Infinity and is really worse given that I was right on Klingon.

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Post Post #1783 (isolation #119) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:52 am

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In post 1779, Infinity 324 wrote:But why would pine waste a valuable vanillize shot on maybe making his buddy townier?

Also nacho townread molla and implied he'd defend molla later. Both WIFOM, but both good points nonetheless.
In Nero's scum theory land, Molla is not vanilla, but lied about Pine targeting him.

Don't you find Nero's chainsaw wierd?
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Post Post #1785 (isolation #120) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:00 am

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In post 1784, Infinity 324 wrote:How it is a chainsaw, just because he voted you?
Molla and I were the two players who have suspected you all game. If you were town that just finished a real vote analysis, you would be observing of that. I would be countering your shit, rather than ignoring it, but we do not have a non guiltied scum flip yet.
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Post Post #1787 (isolation #121) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:24 am

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In post 1786, Infinity 324 wrote:I didn't look at individual votes during the VCA, just wagons.

Also chainsaw isn't a tell when the chainsawed player is town afaik

Also I'm confident enough nero is town that I'm really not trying to sort him anymore
Yuck. Just yuck.

I am not sorting the guy chainsawing me because I am town.

Chainsawing can also be buddying. We're talking indicators, not tells.
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #122) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:26 am

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If I had an outright tell, I would be tempted to just claim a guilty and watch you two scumfuckers squirm. Alas, no outright tell.
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #123) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:20 am

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I will later. I am still swamped at work.
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Post Post #1792 (isolation #124) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:21 am

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In post 1789, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1787, Titus wrote:Chainsawing can also be buddying. We're talking indicators, not tells.
Ok but nero's play throughout the game is inconsistent with him buddying me and generally inconsistent with him being a member of the mafia
Yeah, that's just words saying stop pushing me and you're obvtown. Why isn't Nero buddying you if you're town?
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Post Post #1809 (isolation #125) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:41 am

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In post 1798, Infinity 324 wrote:The second kill is from a crew ability
And you believe this because?
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Post Post #1833 (isolation #126) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:57 am

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In post 1810, Heartless wrote:it was a rogue crew ability + known to rogue crew
Then why outright claim it? That can be a tool to force anti-town players to shape up under threat of death. Now that Infinity claimed it, scum do not have to fear it and there will be no speculation about evil third parties.
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #127) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 1831, Nero Cain wrote:Titus being dumb is null 'cause dumb Titus is a thing regardless of alignment. The only slight difference is that she's willingly dumb as scum.

I've been pushing Titus for ages and she's ignored me the majority of the game but NOW she's claiming that I'm chainsaw defending you? Well why not say that before? Why the delayed response?

The only slight misgiving that I have is that scum voted her but I really don't think her delayed OMGUS and her incredulity at the Kling wagon doesn't seem town like at all.
I haven't ignored shit. I've been contributing heavily for being VLA. Delayed response... I've been VLA and I'm technically still on it.

So being right when everyone else was wrong is a reason to scumread me? Really Nero? You can sit down and shut up.
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #128) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:35 pm

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In post 1835, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1535, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1526, Titus wrote:this Klingon lynched seeming preplanned without me worries me.
like this is too dumb to come from town Titus.
This. It was obvious why the Kling wagon was a thing and she's acting like she didn't know why.
I know why Klingon had a wagon, but not why there is an absolute refusal to listen to alternatives. Given we know that Klingon is town, and BBMolla is probably town, it reeked of an easy mislynch.
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Post Post #1838 (isolation #129) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:36 pm

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In post 1836, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1834, Titus wrote:Delayed response
I've been calling you scum since the end of d1. Why are you
only now
OMGUS scum reading me and claiming that I am chainsaw defending Infinity?
In post 1834, Titus wrote:So being right when everyone else was wrong is a reason to scumread me?
good thing that's not what I'm pushing you for.
Dude, name a game where you haven't pushed me day 1 for being me?

I'm not going to keep giving you attention for breathing.

Now, why is Infinity town?
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #130) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:37 pm

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Yeah, I looked through page 2 and 3, RVS bussing.
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #131) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:41 pm

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In post 1840, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1837, Titus wrote:but not why there is an absolute refusal to listen to alternatives.
there wasn't?

Who were the scum pushing the Kling wagon?
Already answered. I lack the data and interactions to know if there was scum as opposed to bullheaded pride.

Yesterday was a lol guilty that I was AFK for the most of. Nothing's changed overnight. I haven't spoken with people.
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Post Post #1843 (isolation #132) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:42 pm

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In post 1841, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1838, Titus wrote:Now, why is Infinity town?
Its guts and you are scum pushing him so...
And my gut says there's a red PM between you two. So what? Gut means nothing.

Now, I'm going to actually be more productive when someone town shows up so we can actually discuss analysis.
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #133) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:52 pm

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In post 1844, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1778, Nero Cain wrote:actually....Molla full claims his previous role or eats rope/lead depending on which he finds tastier.
I support this.
In post 1782, Titus wrote:
In post 1776, Nero Cain wrote:I do not think its outside the realms of possibility that Molla fakeclaims that his buddy targets him. Its tinfoily and jazz but you could say the same for a still living investigation role. Titus and/or Mastin are my preferred lynches thus far.

vote:Titus
Dude, your shade hat is in full force. You are not directly counterclaiming Molla, as you're pushing my lynch instead. If my memory serves, Molla also claimed his result before the guilty.

This looks like a roundabout way of just attacking anyone who suspected Infinity and is really worse given that I was right on Klingon.

VOTE: Nero
VOTE: Titus

No this isn't chainsawing, this vote from Titus is just atrocious. Her play around Klingon still makes sense as scum.
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Post Post #1850 (isolation #134) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:56 pm

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In post 1848, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1846, Titus wrote:
In post 1844, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1778, Nero Cain wrote:actually....Molla full claims his previous role or eats rope/lead depending on which he finds tastier.
I support this.
In post 1782, Titus wrote:
In post 1776, Nero Cain wrote:I do not think its outside the realms of possibility that Molla fakeclaims that his buddy targets him. Its tinfoily and jazz but you could say the same for a still living investigation role. Titus and/or Mastin are my preferred lynches thus far.

vote:Titus
Dude, your shade hat is in full force. You are not directly counterclaiming Molla, as you're pushing my lynch instead. If my memory serves, Molla also claimed his result before the guilty.

This looks like a roundabout way of just attacking anyone who suspected Infinity and is really worse given that I was right on Klingon.

VOTE: Nero
VOTE: Titus

No this isn't chainsawing, this vote from Titus is just atrocious. Her play around Klingon still makes sense as scum.
Now, why would you want to rope me and Rolefish BBMolla? Scum vanillaizing themselves isn't even moonlogicky enough for me.
Because if Molla is scum he could easily be lying about being vanillized?
And he'd lie before the guilty?
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Post Post #1894 (isolation #135) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:34 pm

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In post 1891, Aj The Epic wrote:As for whose scum, I haven't been terribly accurate in any of my recent games. I'm actually tempted to say Mastina, while good, isn't THAT good but I know RVS is actually one of those areas you can pick up a tell in and catch people unaware really easily. Just... Don't think Pine did anything suspicious in RVS. I'm still bothered with Molla to an extent, I want a claim to back up his vanilized talk. Really that's what I'm running off of right now.
Ok, let me explain something to you.
Yesterday's lynch of Pine happened because there was a hint/flirtation/claim of a guilty.
BBMolla claimed vanillaized before the guilty was announced.
If the claim was after, we could argue that BBMolla was taking advantage of the scumteam's impending loss of Pine to fakeclaim vanillaized. Otherwise, a vanillaized fakeclaim just costs them a use down the line.

Second, claiming his role helps scum PoE. Knock this off.
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #136) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:42 pm

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In post 1895, Aj The Epic wrote:It really doesn't... The roles are pretty non-standard this game.
They may be nonstandard, but it was still reviewed. The key to solving Fire is to find the core eccentricity the game runs on. They have information. They can compare Molla's role to thevdead town and their own and figure out what's needed. This is a game of mafia legends. They can do setup spec.
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #137) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:14 pm

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In post 1897, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1833, Titus wrote:
In post 1810, Heartless wrote:it was a rogue crew ability + known to rogue crew
Then why outright claim it? That can be a tool to force anti-town players to shape up under threat of death. Now that Infinity claimed it, scum do not have to fear it and there will be no speculation about evil third parties.
But how could town use it to threaten anti-town players without...claiming it? Scum probably already knew exactly where the second kill came from.
I don't presume scum know anything, without strong reason. Plus scaring derpy town with a vig shot works, even if scum knew. There's little utility in claiming a shot on town early.
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Post Post #1926 (isolation #138) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:32 am

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In post 1918, Drunken Piper wrote:okay, just spent an hour minus a half
reading Infinity's ISO to see if he is aligned on scum's behalf.

I dont really think so, or at least it doesnt make sense.
I think I am just bothered about the Bolla defense.

I also think tonight I should be the leader.

unless someone has a counter point and that post I will be a reader.

I read AJ and there was no (little?) interaction with Pine.
Pine only mentioned AJ when asking people's thoughts of him.
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In post 1699, Titus wrote:
In post 1684, Drunken Piper wrote:well since action on this wagon I cant get,
clearly I need to step up the threat.

PINE IS SCUM, this I KNOW.
scum probably knows why by now, but why is the town so slow.
Smack me over the head then.
explain this post, please be true.
I thought you were just straight up derailing Infinity wagon with your pride.

By the way, loved your scumchat scene but that only takes place if Scum!BB knew scum!Pine was going down. Yet BB claimed first. Do you have any evidence suggesting scum knew you had a guilty over stubborn pride?
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #139) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:34 am

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In post 1920, Infinity 324 wrote:VOTE: piper for rogue leader
Why do you immediately vote for the guy who wants to lynch you as Rogue Leader?
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Post Post #1928 (isolation #140) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:36 am

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Post Post #1930 (isolation #141) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:01 am

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Read 1918 again.
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Post Post #1967 (isolation #142) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:42 am

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@DP, I am waiting on Infinity's explanation for his rogue leader vote.

@AJ, You have forced a pointless claim from Molla and now you're misrepping my meta to a group of people who have played with me for years. Meta isn't really alignment indicative, but what people say about it is.

Why did you not follow up on BB's claim (unless I missed it)?
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Post Post #1968 (isolation #143) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:44 am

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In post 1941, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1918, Drunken Piper wrote:okay, just spent an hour minus a half
reading Infinity's ISO to see if he is aligned on scum's behalf.

I dont really think so, or at least it doesnt make sense.
@titus
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Post Post #1975 (isolation #144) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:30 pm

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In post 1970, Drunken Piper wrote:
In post 1967, Titus wrote:@DP, I am waiting on Infinity's explanation for his rogue leader vote.
and I am waiting on why YOU have not
voted me for leader yet, you sot.
Infinity wants it. I am fully against anything infinity wants until I figure out why. With you thinking he's scum aligned, his vote doesn't make sense. Buddying?
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #145) » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:02 pm

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Read the next sentence.
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Post Post #2097 (isolation #146) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:51 am

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If you fuckers are going to lynch Molla, that will make this game unplayable for me in most regards. I am bet my life levels of confident Molla is town, and I lack the time or inclination to read through mountains of garbage when the truth is obvious.

No scum would fake being vanillaized before DP revealed his guilty.

So present me evidence of BBMolla knowing (which likely means scum in the hood) or this is just another distraction from Infinity scum or protecting Infinity scum.

DP, for BBMolla scum (which you leave open) you would nearly certain need someone to inform him of your cop check. You are not acting like that is a possibility. You are postulating that BBMolla scum and keeping the hood the same, which violates Occam's Razor.

Meanwhile, BBMolla is being a dumbass for claiming, so I cannot elect him Rogue Leader.

AJ is pants on head reading Molla today but right on Nero being a vindictive sack of shit, like he is regardless of alignment.

No one else is bothering with the spam those two put in the thread.


So tell me, who the fuck will take out the trash of Infinity and Nero along with them not playing Pants on Head level stupid? Yeah, I would vote that for Rogue Leader. Guess what, my townreads are also my dumb as fuck reads. So yeah, you are not getting my vote for Rogue Leader. No one is. I need to see intelligence and logical coherence, even if I disagree with it to vote Rogue Leader.

Right now, I just don't.
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #147) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:00 am

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It's not like anyone needs it anyway, so I am outright protesting the stupidity of this group. If you insist on me voting for Rogue Leader, I will vote for myself. But I refuse to reward stupidity.

A rogue leader vote to me says, you're town and keep up what you are doing. Right now, that applies to no one.
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #148) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:07 am

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In post 2094, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1993, mastina wrote:
In post 1777, SirCakez wrote:I need to reevaluate townreads since I was wrong about Pine and Klingon. I feel safe with this vote though.
VOTE: AJ
"I swear I'm going to reevaluate my reads, but here have a vote which...is not me reevaluating my reads".
It was a day entrance, and I was (and still am) busy when I posted that.
In post 2013, Heartless wrote:
In post 2010, mastina wrote:In fact, half the game didn't even want you to claim your abilities.
is this a fact or an alternative fact?
:lol:

I have been very busy in the afternoons recently so I haven't been able to reread yet. Titus looks like scum on hiding so ya not changing my vote.

zefiend - given that Pine is our only flipped scum, thought it would be worthwhile for you to pay extra attention there. There wasn't really a special motive for it.
This is scum too.

I am hiding? That's the lie you're going with.

Why the fuck are the legends damn stupid here?
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Post Post #2100 (isolation #149) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:08 am

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I am on VLA and STILL doing more than you. Yet, I am allegedly hiding?
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Post Post #2116 (isolation #150) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:03 am

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In post 2104, Heartless wrote:also titus u can't call me dumb as fuck and then turn around and call cakez scum
Are you voting SirCakez? No. Have you been applying pressure there? No.

Are you postulating BBMolla fakeclaiming without explaining why scumMolla would fake vanillaized before DP postulated his guilty? Yes.

Are you tring Infinity and Nero without reason beyond it feels good? Yes. They are going to make you feel good about being wrong. It's not my job to tell you your shit don't stink when it has.

Klingon was also town, but do I see you revevaluating? No. So why should I give you credit for a throw away comment?
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Post Post #2117 (isolation #151) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:06 am

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In post 2113, PeregrineV wrote:Was Kling or Desp a vig shot?
Klingon was a vig shot for the hammer without a claim despite Desperado appearing to endorse it. Scum also pushed that lynch knowing BBMolla would endorse it. He's served his purpose now, so he's one of many lynch candidates up for deflection.
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Post Post #2120 (isolation #152) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:27 am

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In post 2119, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2117, Titus wrote:
In post 2113, PeregrineV wrote:Was Kling or Desp a vig shot?
Klingon was a vig shot for the hammer without a claim despite Desperado appearing to endorse it. Scum also pushed that lynch knowing BBMolla would endorse it. He's served his purpose now, so he's one of many lynch candidates up for deflection.
Who is scum pushing Molla, who is scum that pushed Kling?
You, by your spam discrediting. SirCakez most likely.
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Post Post #2121 (isolation #153) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:29 am

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In post 2118, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2084, ɀefiend wrote:I feel that mastina's defense against his concerns (re: the timeline of game events, and the motivations behind Pine and mastina's actions) was legitimate.
I think Mastina's timeline jazz is just fucking strongly worded bullshit but if you actually read it then it makes no sense. For all intents and purposes we'll assume Mastina is scum in this post. Like Pine had a role that publicly outs his action. Both him and Mastina would know this. Her main argument here is that scum wouldn't know who was getting into the crew, however, this totally ignores that Heartless
DID
state who she wanted in the crew. Why does she gloss over that? Also, from what I understand, Pine joined late so its possible that scum used their action once it was confirmed there was no scum in the crew.

So explain to me why I should just accept that Mastina is town and their history let her scum read Pine. When A.) it makes sense to bus a player that will eventually go down. B.) She was strong arming said lynch with little to no reason. Why couldn't she have just said "oh this post and this post and this post gives me bad vibes." As long winded as she is she could have done so and I don't think she ever did wich I think is sketchy as fuck.
The Timeline to scumread Molla from Mastina makes as much sense as yours. That's zero.

Have you bothered to justify your reads? No, because the thread knows you just spam.
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Post Post #2126 (isolation #154) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:40 am

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No. If I thought you were clear, I wouldn't be asking for you to be so others can see you are scum just attacking whoever is in to attack.

If your timeline is clear, you should have no problem posting that. The only clear thought you have is Titus is wrong.

If you were town, you would let me engage with others to read them. You are not, so...

You were helping the Klingon wagon by avoiding and discrediting me. You are doing the same with Molla. You are not voting him, but your narrative IS pushing Molla. Your recent gripe against Mastina is textbook.

Mastina is right on BB because she is BB's partner with no reason for this..That's what you have been doing. Titus is scum with whichever townie is getting FoSed..
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #155) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:18 am

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In post 2130, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2126, Titus wrote:If you were town, you would let me engage with others to read them. You are not, so...
how am I stopping you? by continuing to scum read you? Yeah that doesn't stop you from posting about others.
The perpetual shading from your slot puts everything I say into a negative light. Between you and the spamming of Infinity (he has over 400 posts as I write this), I cannot interact with anyone fully. In the middle of any interaction, you just come in with a post saying Titus is scum over and over.

I get it. You scumread me. You should be townreading me if you're town, but then again with the personal vendetta, who knows if you're even capable of that. Every single game in the past two years (I think ever since XMen), you have always scumread me and made things impossible.

Most games without you, I have a block of 4 or 5 solid townreads that we are gearing towards a scumlynch or two (without a guilty). Yet, I haven't been able to do that. That's because of you.

I can't even be 1000% sure that I'm not missing or misconstruing Heartless's total inability to defend BBMolla as obvtown as actually what is happening because every time I go look, there's twenty posts by the two of you spouting more garbage that I've given up responding to half of it.

So, for the love of God, if you're town, either present something coherent or shut the fuck up so I can get town going in the right direction or resign myself to BBMolla getting mislynched and praying that town listens to me tomorrow.
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Post Post #2231 (isolation #156) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:28 pm

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In post 2228, Heartless wrote:finally at a computer

1st thing: i need to take back what i said to titus and admit i have no clue what's going on w/ piper and cakez
In post 2093, Drunken Piper wrote:(As DP slept off his last tear, conversation exploded. but he saw this that caught his eye, he will do the other catch up later)
In post 2084, ɀefiend wrote:
I believe Heartless already asked this question, but
@DrunkenPiper
: if you tracked Pine to nacho N1, wouldn't you also have tracked him to BBmolla? If you didn't, isn't that confirmation that BBmolla is lying about being vanillaized? I don't know how Firebringer would resolve that but maybe you should ask him.
you can do this math, if that was the case,
then I wouldnt be talking about BBmolla in this time and place.

hmm, think hard new guy, think hard, try not to use any aids.
and you will probably figure out that I am a...............
at first i thought he was claiming gunsmith and that would explain everything: how he guiltied pine and how he doesn't have a definitive opinion on whether bb is gambiting or not.

but then i looked back and he said very distinctly that cakez didn't visit anyone which a gunsmith wouldn't know so i have no fucking idea what's going on there

In post 1817, Drunken Piper wrote:also n2 Cakez did not target anyone.
if you were curious if he was walking around with a gun.
You're really close, but I think it would be antitown to push you there.

I appreciate the takeback on the DP thing.

Can you clarify your BBMolla read and why?
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Post Post #2242 (isolation #157) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:23 pm

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In post 2233, Heartless wrote:
In post 2231, Titus wrote:You're really close, but I think it would be antitown to push you there.
well there's really no unringing that bell now, so i think clarification is better
In post 2231, Titus wrote:Can you clarify your BBMolla read and why?
town, vanillaized claim/occam's razor

[i also happen to think molla's role being a scum role would prob create very problematic balance issues but i guess that's just me, what do i know about balancing setups?]
DP has a role that let him know the type of action Pine took is my logical guess.

That would limit, by Occam's Razor, that BBMolla was town unless DP told of his guilty to scum in adavance via the starship. The mod could say put in a role that has scum directly ccing DP, but I find that unlikely. Otherwise, there's no way for scum to know that Pine was going down prior to BBMolla's claim. Thus, BBMolla town is extremely likely or BBMolla scum means Starship scum and Pine invaded a group that already had a member. The sheer level of justifications needed and to what extremes means BBMolla is town.
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #158) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:04 pm

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In post 2243, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 2237, Heartless wrote:
In post 2225, Heartless wrote:
In post 2137, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 2103, Heartless wrote:VOTE: zefiend

scum catch up
Why?
bc you use a ton of words to say not very much and the reads themselves are so cookie cutter and meh

talk about this more when not on a phone
anyway back to this

in the opening post i feel like he's just sort of going through the motions and dryly pointing out things that MIGHT be scummy but there's really no direction to any of the thoughts and most all the reads just kind of end up in this weird limbo. i'm not really seeing any effort to go beyond surface level or any attempt to say what the most LIKELY situation is. it's the appearance of "gamesolving" without really solving anything.
I started reading an 80 page game at 9 pm, and between several breaks I didn't finish til 4 am. Maybe I should have waited to post with a clearer mindset, but I really just wanted to get my true, initial feelings down the moment after finishing reading. It wasn't an meant to be anything beyond superficial feelings and reads, but it was meant to give everyone an idea of where my thoughts lay upon an initial catch-up.

The weirdo limbo thing is because I genuinely feel like there's a conundrum between players with regards to their reads (for example, Titus, Nero, and Infinity) and I was hoping to pry further into these nuances. I started chipping away at Nero, and we made some progress, but Infinity's primary reaction was to discredit my efforts and fling absolute bullshit. Titus probably doesn't care one way or another now that she has a supporter for Infinity lynch.

TL:Dr: I wanted to establish a baseline personal "feel" of the game so that I could work off of something as I get in stride. I didn't want to just come out with reads and progression that makes no sense with zero background context. My catch-up at least provides some context and I'm was more comfortable moving forward with one like that.
In what universe do you think that I do not care about your posts because you're voting Infinity?
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Post Post #2247 (isolation #159) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:47 pm

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In post 2246, Heartless wrote:but srsly...

i have no idea what any of that means.
He needs his deep "meditation" I bet. Some people believe in rythym and momentum lynches and crap. This looks to be more of that. I never get that kind of poster (I learned that from Mollie hydra), so I try to stay out of the way of that kind of poster.
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #160) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:01 pm

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In post 2248, Heartless wrote:in my official capacity as someone who knows mollie...

i still have no clue what that means
Given my slowness to learn, that's probably my fault. While I am all about relationships in group dynamics (this wagon is on scum bc town vote and stall), mollie is more about this guy will/won't get lynched bc thread interest and vote motion as it happens. She's never been big on explaining reads but just seeing and controlling the wave of people and what each person will/won't do.

It's hard for me to articulate how she does it or what she does. Yet, that hydra with her was probably the best thing ever for my town play. Since I hydraed with her, my accuracy has been way up and my persuasiveness to. It's not perfect but yeah zefiend seems to be that kind of player.
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #161) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:09 pm

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In post 2252, Heartless wrote:
In post 2251, Titus wrote:Given my slowness to learn, that's probably my fault. While I am all about relationships in group dynamics (this wagon is on scum bc town vote and stall), mollie is more about this guy will/won't get lynched bc thread interest and vote motion as it happens. She's never been big on explaining reads but just seeing and controlling the wave of people and what each person will/won't do.
oh yeah... she calls that "the town herd"

...

i still don't know the relevance to this. sorry.
Replace town herd for personal feel of the gamestate in zefiend's post see if it makes sense. If you still cannot see that, then maybe I am wrong in my interpretation.
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Post Post #2257 (isolation #162) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:12 pm

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Zefiend, you cannot help scum.
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Post Post #2265 (isolation #163) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 6:01 pm

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You attempting to help SirCakez.

Why did you think I wouldn't care about reading your posts?
Why do you think the unhealthy spam argument hasn't been made about infinity besudes by me?
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #164) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:19 pm

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Heartless, have you formed a read on Mastina? Mastina feels different from any game I've had with her, both town and scum. Yet, I can't get a grip on why they aren't seeing the basic logic I am? I expect better from Mastina.
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #165) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:51 pm

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In post 2256, ɀefiend wrote:If you really think that's scummy I can't help you anymore.
SirCakez posted his spoiler before this heavily redacted post.

You cannot help SirCakez see scum because he is scum.
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #166) » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:55 pm

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In post 2271, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 2265, Titus wrote:You attempting to help SirCakez.

Why did you think I wouldn't care about reading your posts?
Why do you think the unhealthy spam argument hasn't been made about infinity besudes by me?
Help SieCakez how?? I feel like you are narrating something happening in an entirely different game or I'm eternally distracted.

Because when you tunnel you don't care why someone has your support as long as they do. Pretty sure you've said something like that before but I'm not in any rush to dig through all our games together to find it.

I am joining your cause to make that argument too. It's not just unhealthy, it's tactically scummy.
That's a very oversimplistic view of my personality. I do actually scrutinize who joins when and what reason. That's why we're even talking rather than me saying yes.

What's unhealthy is refusing to listen to evidence and adjust, which is what most of the thread appears do be doing.

Let's lynch The Thinker. He flips town.
Let's lynch Klingon. She's town.
Let's lynch BBMolla, and he's damn near conftown.

So am I supposed to wait for more dumb errors and compromise when the majority is systemically wrong?
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Post Post #2325 (isolation #167) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:49 am

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Mastina, until you address the substance of my argument, I am not reading your word vomit.
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Post Post #2330 (isolation #168) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 5:55 am

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In post 2326, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 2324, Infinity 324 wrote:I guess my main issue with molla being scum is why he didn't just claim VT. He'd still know he'd been vanillaized if he really was a VT because of the special power.
Scum!molla doesn't necessarily know if a VT gets a message
That's something a mod would answer more likely than not.
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Post Post #2363 (isolation #169) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:53 pm

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Nero, why do you tunnel me in every game? You and Cakez both have mistepresented my early game vla as lurking, and now that I am here, you refuse to engage me but continuously take potshots and spam.

I have asked you repeatedly for your stance on BBMolla and Mastina. Nothing.

Everytime a wagon gets going, you speculate that I am their partner. Yet, you haven't speculated that with SirCakez. Why?
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Post Post #2375 (isolation #170) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:15 pm

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In post 2366, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2363, Titus wrote:refuse to engage me but continuously take potshots
I don't see how this is any different than you.

Can you talk to me about your scumreads because you seem to go back and forth between scum and town all the time.
You don't see how my behavior is different than a 5 game long vendetta that you must emulate as scum? Ok, Sherlock.

I have talked about Infinity. He's the pinnacle of opportunistic spamming.

You have been outright lying calling my play lurking when I am still in the top 5 posting with next to no shitpostinh whatsoever. You've systemically shaded me constantly with no content to back it up.

Cakez also has been lurking around the major wagons and spewing many of the same falsehoods you copy.

Now, I have asked you three times for a coherent story about this Mastina/Pine/BBMolla nonsense you are spouting. Each time you deflect.

You still haven't given a rational universe where BBMolla could be scum, or Mastina. It's histronics and theatre.
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Post Post #2376 (isolation #171) » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:16 pm

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Heartless, when can we take out the trash and you stop attacking people who disagree with you? They've silenced everyone else.
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Post Post #2404 (isolation #172) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:37 am

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@Nero,

Ok, well thank you for detailing in why in the past 5 games (excluding ongoing) that you scumread my slot. I just see the end result every time and go Nero is scumreading me again, as always. I am not going to deny I was scum sometimes but still I just felt like you were doing that.

As for Molla claiming Vanillauzed before the guilty, yeah that's not going to happen unless BB had a reason to think Pine was going down. Pine had limited shots. Either scum had to risk a broken situation occurring by holding one of their vanillaize shots, or whenever Pine flipped we'd get 3 vanillaized claims for two shots. That puts a pool of 1 out of 3 for scum when Pine flips, and the associative tells. Rather than dismissing what I say as moon logic, why not talk to me? That's why I feel you are scummy. In the town versions, you put effort to get down to the root of my thinking. In the scum games, you were opposed regardless of what I said. Given the length of our opposition, it's hard to tell sometimes.

I don't really care that you don't like me stating Rogue Leader is a reward. It is. That's how I use it. I view players voting for town as likely to use their benefits to help scum. It's hard as fuck to get town to listen when I have been right and the collective is wrong.

Even now, giving you the benefit of the doubt since you started to engage me on everything but a plausible reason for a mastina/molla team, you're still wrong on BBMolla.

@Cakez, Dude, lying isn't your forte. I have a few solid reads, and that's despite Nero, Infinity, and my real life. I have tried to engage Heartless and DP, yet they are checked out. DP is prod dodging. Heartless is ego posting and has been since d1.

@AJ, Thank you, but why the fuck did you claim?
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #173) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:37 am

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In post 2403, Heartless wrote:
In post 2376, Titus wrote:Heartless, when can we take out the trash and you stop attacking people who disagree with you? They've silenced everyone else.
who am i "attacking"? what are u talking about?
Zefiend.

Join me on SirCakez.

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Post Post #2406 (isolation #174) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:40 am

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To be clear Heartless, you're SRing people who disagree with you (zefiend) and ignoring the the whole gamestate. Infinity's spamming, SirCakez is lying, PeregrineV has awesome catchup, scum are trying to shade BBMolla (who you seem to think is town and are not stopping), and you're just sitting there fighting with zefiend over lord knows what?
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #175) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:46 am

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In post 2407, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 2404, Titus wrote:@AJ, Thank you, but why the fuck did you claim?
A.) Don't trust Molla's claim in light of my knowledge
B.) It helps town in general if I'm killed just to clear that
C.) Wanted to see if I could use it on the Rogue Leader for effective protection.
1)Scum have a vanillaizer. That might as well be a neon sign that balance is shit this game.
2) One is false, all your death would show is that is you claimed jailkeeper, particularly given your push.
3) Ask the mod that.

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Post Post #2415 (isolation #176) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:15 am

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In post 2412, Heartless wrote:
In post 2406, Titus wrote:and you're just sitting there fighting with zefiend over lord knows what?
i suggest you read the exchange before dismissing it
I will read it again, but I got nothing useful out of it and a hankering to drink to understand. You basically jyst said scum catchup and word vomited to me.

Given you ignoring everything else, it reinforced my beliefs. You, for instance, haven't addressed my scumreads or engaged in why I am wrong, yet you expect me to reread your posting multiple times when your actions make it clear what you are doing and it made no sense the first time.
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Post Post #2419 (isolation #177) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:24 am

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In post 2417, Heartless wrote:
In post 2415, Titus wrote:I will read it again, but I got nothing useful out of it and a hankering to drink to understand. You basically jyst said scum catchup and word vomited to me.
plz read it. IF NOTHING ELSE, read this:
In post 2237, Heartless wrote:in the opening post i feel like he's just sort of going through the motions and dryly pointing out things that MIGHT be scummy but there's really no direction to any of the thoughts and most all the reads just kind of end up in this weird limbo. i'm not really seeing any effort to go beyond surface level or any attempt to say what the most LIKELY situation is. it's the appearance of "gamesolving" without really solving anything.
So he put out notes to solve them later in a stream of consciousness? Ok. Plus town points.

You should look at Smackdown. I was scum with him. Many short posts, not working with anyone and no detail to his catchups. Totally different personalities at play.
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Post Post #2472 (isolation #178) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:12 am

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Welp, TWIE and Molla just confirmed as town.

Heartless, just ffs Nero and SirCakez just joined this wagon to spite me. I don't get how you can't see that. Ever since I doubted Cakez, they pounced on me. I have been right all game.
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Post Post #2476 (isolation #179) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:20 am

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In post 2474, Heartless wrote:
In post 2472, Titus wrote:I have been right all game.
right about what?

i can't believe you'd call me an egoist and then turn around and say shit like this
I am doing that because you haven't listened to shit I said all game and rush through to get the spammers and bullies to join your wagon not noticing they are scum. I was right on almost every verifiable read so far. Flipped scum shaded me. What more do I have to do? Change my name to Desperado?

BBMolla is conftown because of how the mod slipped Pine acted twice. TWIE is conftown because of how Infinity treated him.

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Post Post #2477 (isolation #180) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:22 am

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Just look at Nero and Cakey's votes. The buddy you on BBMolla who is confirmed town now. They buddy you on zefiend. They'd vote Drunken Piper if it got you to vote me.
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Post Post #2484 (isolation #181) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:38 am

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In post 2483, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 2476, Titus wrote:TWIE is conftown because of how Infinity treated him.
titus you're aware infinity is unflipped yeah?
Not to me. If i made Infinity's posts, I would be dead.
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Post Post #2543 (isolation #182) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:49 pm

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Post Post #2569 (isolation #183) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:37 pm

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Post Post #2571 (isolation #184) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:38 pm

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Post Post #2577 (isolation #185) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:41 pm

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If cakez was on jail, he could not do an action.

DP would have gotten that result, not Cakez did whatever.

So excuse me for being annoyed at your lecture spam.
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #186) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:50 pm

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In post 2581, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2493, Infinity 324 wrote:Ok titus, explain why you voted nero for voting you on d3 but not earlier.
I was sorting him. I voted him on day 3 because he's scum or toxic as fuck.

Anything else I missed is waiting until Monday.
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Post Post #2759 (isolation #187) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:45 am

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Did you review Smackdown Heartless?

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Post Post #2764 (isolation #188) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:38 am

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What game was that? Why didn't you tell me about that game? Right now, I see differences in meta + more intelligent thought and you're pushing something that appears not to be true. Why not say X game shows the opposite and have me go look?

The only reasons for you not to engage me on this issue appear to be that a) you feel I am beneath you or constructive dialogue b) the game isn't as strong evidence as you portray it to be or c) you're scum trying to save SirCakez.

Please tell me I am a dumbass and there's an option D I am not seeing.
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Post Post #2773 (isolation #189) » Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:49 pm

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In post 2767, Heartless wrote:seriously titus what is with this chip on your shoulder?

no, i'm not scumreading zefiend for disagreeing. with anything. if i end up being wrong about him, i'll own it. don't paint this as an ego trip.

and if i actually had something against you i would've either /outed or woto'd you from this game AND i wouldn't have even bothered replying to you. so... yeah that's a bunch of nonsense too.

snap out of it.
I want to be able to talk to you and have some hope you will listen. If you view that as an ego trip, I will sub out. I cannot get a decent townblock going when I cannot even have a conversation.

In that quote, you were talking to Nero, not me. Second, the quote you gave to Nero was zefiend's personality as scum but you appeared to be looking at different things. The very sentence structure in the game you linked was short bursts with little information. The zefiend here is long winded and detailed. Both were under pressure, I believe.

Yet, I cannot ascertain whether you actually looked at Smackdown and reached that conclusion solely by you talking with Nero and talking about zefiend's flail. I don't respond well to you talking to others and acting as if you're talking to me.

Right now, the thread as a whole just seems like a big fuck you. In Xmen, I got wagoned solely for the number of posts I had. Yet, when Infinity has 400-500 posts, it's not a problem. Double standard. People do not like it when I tunnel. Yet, it's not a problem when Nero tunnels for 5 straight games on my slot. People say when you're right and give others space, they'll listen.

I gave you two days worth of space Heartless, and now I have to practically yell just to have a conversation. DP is basically noncontributing but skilled PR. Mastina is STILL babbling nonsense about BBMolla being scum. AJ derp claimed for no reason. TWIE doesn't really mesh well with my style of play. I cannot get substance with him, because his playstyle is the opposite of mine. BBMolla is wasting time defending himself from nonsense rather than helping lynch scum. Zefiend is just trying to survive when you still are not being clear what his issue is (and I read multiple times and I still don't get it).

I just need 1 person I can feel is good town with a decent chance to bounce reads off of. Just one. Yet, Nero, SirCakez and Infinity have made it their mission to make sure I cannot.

So, yeah I have a bit of frustration. So either help me, or tell me to get out before I go insane with Nero's toxic crap and talking to a town with closed ears.
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Post Post #2789 (isolation #190) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:52 am

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@DP, Great, you're spam saying I am scum and not contributing. Why?

@Heartless, Personality is one of the few tells I find viable in meta. Is it flawless? No. Yet, given I have been right and you have been wrong, I should objectively be the person being engaged. Yet, that's not happening. It happens in other games.

Now, onto your issue. Zefiend doesn't word vomit as scum from what I have seen. He just lurks away. That's using your definition of just quotewalling back. What I see when zefiend replies like that is someone trying to reach out. Scum zefiend doesn't reach people. Quote walls supporting points are details. They are not the details you want. If quote walls bother you, tell him to use post tags. If I am right, you should see details and ignore the quotes getting in the way. If I am wrong and he struggles to put two coherent thoughts together, we'll lynch him.

Nero, your first quote says enough. You are sick of me. You latch onto one interpretation difference and you tunnel it forever. You do it as town, so you have to do it as scum. Either way, it makes the game impossible. So, you go in my scum pool and if I get a vig, I will shoot you. You block town from recognizing each other.
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #191) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 5:53 am

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In post 2787, Infinity 324 wrote:I considered the possibility of you being scum
Stop it. Stop spamming with nonsense that waffles.

DP is silenced town thanks to your bullshit.
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Post Post #2820 (isolation #192) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:45 pm

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In post 2814, mastina wrote:
In post 2648, Infinity 324 wrote:I once played in a mini normal with a full town doctor and a full town bodyguard. That was a long time ago, but still. More recently, I played in one with 2 night 2 doctors, all the PRs were night 2 in that game but still. I've played in one a JK and a 1-shot BP. All
mini normals
. My point is that it's 100% possible to have a jk and a 1-shot rolestop in a large theme.
And again: what kind of scum power existed to counter those?
The night-2 PR game doesn't count because all PRs that game were night 2 (and it was arguably not a Normal game for that reason alone but I digress). I'm talking about the JK/BP/BG/Doctor combos.

Did they have a form of strongman?
Or a form of roleblocker?

Because I am a NRG member. I'm pretty sure you're mentioning some games I was a fucking reviewer on. And while the scum don't need an answer to every possible protection...they do need an answer to strong town power roles like doctor and jailkeeper.

The JOAT with the rolestop, with the town jailkeeper, simply makes more sense as a scum role.
Why does this feel like you're whining about your scumteam being underpowered?

Why haven't you interacted at all with SirCakez? (According to my memory)
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Post Post #2824 (isolation #193) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:48 pm

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In post 2821, Heartless wrote:i guess mastin probably doesn't think i'm a competent reviewer
I feel like there's baggage here that I am missing subtext on. I did not see Mastina attacking your abilities as a reviewer but this whole review balance thing is hinky.

I have my own theories but I am not there yet.
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #194) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:14 pm

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In post 2828, Heartless wrote:
In post 2826, mastina wrote:And against that, you've got a lot which needs shutting down!
with what we have so far.... not really

if i was a reviewer on this i'd probably say throw in a scum BP and maybe an investigative and that scumteam would be good to go

i mean... if everyone starts claiming james bond super duper power roles, i'll reassess that but i haven't seen anything outrageous so far
We need another scum flip before beginning setup spec. There's expectations. Then there's reality.

So, I guess we wait on zefiend to rearticulate whatever posts Heartless want or we lynch scum Cakez.
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Post Post #2836 (isolation #195) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:46 pm

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Mastina, suppose you are wrong on BBMolla, what does your world look like?
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Post Post #2839 (isolation #196) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:55 pm

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In post 2774, Infinity 324 wrote:Titus, I'm willing to talk to you if you're willing to accept you might be wrong on me.
Sure I am willing to accept the possibility I am wrong on you. Right now, you are so "go with the flow" and spammish, it blocks out everyone else. My biggest issue is you are in the way.

Is anyone saying your posts bring new insight? No. Are they doing things to help others develop reads? No. Your posts are useless for the most part.

If you are town, I need you to talk less but say more opinions to engage with.
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Post Post #2842 (isolation #197) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:00 pm

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In post 2838, mastina wrote:
In post 2789, Titus wrote:Zefiend doesn't word vomit as scum from what I have seen. He just lurks away.
Isn't that...you know, exactly what he's doing now?

A wallpost every three days or so does qualify a poster as not lurking.
You know what yesterday was? The cheater's bowl. Most people leave for that. He's due a prod.

How many wall posts did zefiend have in Smackdown? Like zero. Wallposts full of content is likely something Zefiend would struggle with if he can do it at all. It would also give information.

So let's wait for Heartless to get his questions answered and then just have ziefind do a quote wall. Either me or Heartless will be proven right.
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Post Post #2844 (isolation #198) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:02 pm

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In post 2841, mastina wrote:
In post 2820, Titus wrote:Why haven't you interacted at all with SirCakez? (According to my memory)
I mean.
I could call all his posting scum if you'd like.

But that wouldn't exactly be productive, now, would it?
Yes. Yes it would. It gives reassurance to me that you might be possible to get on the same page, rather than talking to a wall.
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Post Post #2845 (isolation #199) » Mon Feb 06, 2017 2:10 pm

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In post 2843, mastina wrote:
In post 2836, Titus wrote:Mastina, suppose you are wrong on BBMolla, what does your world look like?
Aside from that world never happening, would have to cross that bridge when I came to it, honestly.

I don't have a backup plan.

I don't have a roadmap in this game.

"If X flips town, Y is scum instead".
I don't have anything like that whatsoever.
I don't have an excess of scumreads.
I have reason to townread all of the players in the game, save three.

I would be left on shaky grounds, yes, if I was proven wrong. I wouldn't exactly know where to go next. I'd have to reassess, wouldn't be able to tell you about it now though because it hasn't happened and I don't think it ever will.

It's not this often I feel so confident on a scumteam.
And there's damn fucking good reason I feel this confident about that scumteam.
So, who is your scumteam aside from BBMolla?
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