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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:59 am

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I think Gamma is a fairly easy lynch for scum to push/join, given that he's the only one not contributing atm. I feel like his flip won't give us much info given that he hasn't interacted with anyone in any meaningful way. I kind of want a lynch that people have stronger opinions about, but I'm not opposed to it either. I don't have a better alternative right now.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:00 am

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Well that was fast.

I guess the best answer to your question was when I made the lynchpool it consisted of just people that I haven't seen anything townish from. Implosion's TR has degraded a lot but compared to the three in the list he's at least done SOMETHING townish.

Though I really really really really don't like the KT hop. At all.

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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:04 am

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Sorry lol, I didn't mean it to. Blame it on everyone in this game not really doing anything all that scummy I guess? You also seemed to be townreading everyone in your big posts and doing POE when asked who you scumread.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:12 am

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implosion is the townread that's closest to null for me as well - KT and CK have both gone up and down on my rankings while implosion just kinda sat there.
Why do you not like the KT hop? Is it too opportunistic? Just pings you the wrong way?
I read it as him reading CK as town after the whole claiming discussion, then rereading and seeing Kain's vote come after his and that made him suspicious. He does seem to be more liberal than most of the players here in regards to moving his vote around onto anyone he wants to pressure, but I think that's probably more of a personal gameplay thing than AI.

Of course, I haven't read his past games so I can't say for sure.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:17 am

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parama is at work and doesn't feel like phoneposting tbh I've just been skimming the thread
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:17 am

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the walls are especially demotivating.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:52 am

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In post 180, Parama wrote:the walls are especially demotivating.
This.

So far I've learned from readable posts that Stormcloud is town, and I want to say Syr is likely town for having a similar thought process to mine.
In post 133, KainTepes wrote:
In post 13, KainTepes wrote:japan is an island by the sea nad it is BEAUTIFUL
oh so it looks like your issue is with this post,,

now i see why you think i was being opportunistic,, because i voted RIGHT after implosion vote

it is simple really, the explanation is just pretty dumb,, i was busy watching the history of japan video linked in the first post of the MODERATOR when people were posting and then quoted it,, i wasn't reading the posts at that point,,
I find this explanation pretty believable.
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, what do you think?

There's a majority consenus on town!Comm (at least I think), but I'm not as sure about him yet. I'll have to look closer into a couple of his walls when I'm off my phone. For now..

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What information do we gain from, say, a doctor revealing his role? What does this do to spur discussion?
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:04 am

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In post 175, Stormcloud wrote:I think Gamma is a fairly easy lynch for scum to push/join, given that he's the only one not contributing atm. I feel like his flip won't give us much info given that he hasn't interacted with anyone in any meaningful way. I kind of want a lynch that people have stronger opinions about, but I'm not opposed to it either. I don't have a better alternative right now.
that is POSSIBLE,, and lurker flips are usually also not very informative,, BUT scum is known to hide among lurkers becuase its a strategy that doesnt attract much attention until LYLO, upon which there may be even more lurkers to hide WITHIN........ since scum will kill off the more activlely scumhunting players,,

so i like to keep my vote PARKED ON THE GEMMA EMERALD for now,,
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:10 am

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Well they'll have their work cut out for them killing active scumhunting players in this game...
I'm curious to see how Gamma's wagon develops in the future.

After a reread, my top suspects are Transcend and Syryana - not a huge change from where I was before or anything, just that rereading has not made me feel any better about the two of them. Don't think they are scum together though, unless they both enjoy bussing.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:11 am

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Storm:

I'm one of the most bizarre players you'll meet

As either alignment

I don't want you to town read me based on a previous game
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:12 am

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I'm definitely not townreading you based on your previous game - I'm saying that my gut instincts on you, whatever they are, might be affected by your odd playstyle. I'm aware of this, but I don't think it's heavily influencing my read right now.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:13 am

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Yer breakin my heart here storm
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:13 am

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And you're (relatively speaking) one of my stronger scumreads atm so don't worry lol. I'm still plenty paranoid about you ;)
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:15 am

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Syryana are you saying I'm running in circles? I thought I've been pretty transparent about how my reads developed over time. I have to scumread someone, and it's currently not going to be Tweet, implosion, CK or KT. Parama is falling off for me right now but still just outside the POE.
Which leaves you and Transcend, and our resident lurker.

Who would you have me scumread instead of you?
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:24 am

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Nah, it was a joke in reference to the comment you made about bussing.

Why are you so certain of your implosion read?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:30 am

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In post 141, Stormcloud wrote:let's see...i'm actually curious too as it was mostly a gut read from a couple pages back.

I liked the vote on CK and the later explanation for the vote change - that it's something he often does on day 1 to start discussion. It was the first "serious" vote of the game and I like that. I haven't looked at past games to see if he's telling the truth about this being a common action for him though.

Next he talks a whole bunch about the claiming stuff so that's NAI. He's generally skeptical of CK's instant scumread, and doesn't react defensively at all. At this point I'm feeling either town or pretty experienced, flippant scum.

He pointed out the same thing that bugged me about your page one posts (which bother me quite a bit less now, I do accept your explanation at least for today). But picking up on similar scumtells makes me like him.

He later votes for Transcend, joining a growing wagon. This is opportunistic and it's probably the scummiest thing he's done, but I can see the town motivation - discussion about CK was stalling a bit and pressuring people/forming wagons is generally pro town. If this went to a lynch and Transcend flipped town I'd look a little harder at the timing of how implosion joined the wagon, but given that it hasn't yet and I'm also lightly scumreading Transcend, I don't mind implosion's vote here.

He then questions Transcend about his POE system. The questions seem pretty genuine and like he's really just curious about Transcend's mindset, not like he's trying to get him mislynched. Obviously it's a bit early on day 1 for the mafia to hard scumread someone and try and push a mislynch, but that doesn't seem to be implosion's goal here.

So yeah, light townread, the lightest of my three probably.
Any specific questions?
I'd like to hear more from him for sure - if he's lurking I don't like that, there's tons to comment on. But he's only been gone for 11 hours - probably just work/sleep.
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:33 am

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I feel that my reads aren't going to change or develop much further until Gamma, implosion and/or Parama have given some thoughts. I'd be happy to chat with you and answer any questions you have though :)
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:37 am

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Nope, I think we've reached a point where we more or less understand each other. You agree?
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:38 am

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Yeah. I'm honestly kinda sad that I'm scumreading you - I like you as a player and I don't want you to turn out to be scum lol.
But gotta separate emotion from reads as much as I can.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:14 am

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193 is town gold btw

Gamma might have site flaked

My vote was only for pressure so ima vote here again.

VOTE: implosion
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:16 am

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OPPORTUNISTIC VOTE JUMP AHOY!!!!!!!!!!!!! VOTE: IMPLOKSHION

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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:16 am

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You're a cow again

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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:17 am

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but yeah i'm doubting all SHADE CASTERS and since Storm's got a good explanation for hers,, its IMPLOSION TIME
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:17 am

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In post 196, Transcend wrote:You're a cow again

I like you
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:19 am

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Quick little unofficial VC I was doing to keep track for myself, hopefully correct

[3] Transcend (Gamma Emerald, Parama, implosion)
[1] Gamma Emerald (Morning Tweet)
[1] CommKnight (Stormcloud)
[3] implosion (CommKnight, Transcend, KainTepes)

[1] Not Voting (Syryana)

I'm ok with some pressure on implosion. This wagon is intriguing me. Not gonna join it yet though.
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