Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

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Me 1st

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VOTE: Narna

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Yeah that was pretty mean

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CommKnight made a good point about James claim tbh

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I don't know if James is scum though, if he was scum really planning to coast like that wouldn't it be more viable to claim to be a doc or some other protective role

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He's not a good lynch today regardless tho

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Yeah it's unlikely James is scum with that claim

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Comm's reasoning makes sense from a newbie town perspective though, from first glance the timing and claim itself is weird enough to hop on, especially if you lack experience with the site

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Id daykill myself

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How are you guys playing Yu gi oh when dueling network shutdown

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@___@

VOTE: James

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Actually you're right

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Comm is obv town here though

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Yeah I don't like James OMGUSING everyone that calls him out, when he said he always claims D1 for reactions I expected more but I don't see any reads so far that go deeper than "he thinks im scum"

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I can't tell if he's lying or just playing badly tho

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How are you guys playing Yu gi oh when dueling network shutdown

This must be what it feels like when someone who doesn't know Michael Jackson died finds out Michael Jackson died

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???????

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Yeah

more people should post

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There's no reason not to believe his claim

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Unless you think he's scum really trying to pull off a quicklynch on a townie this early in the game

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He prob just likes to do it lol

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I respect that tbh

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I'm on my phone rn I got you in the am

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I think LoX/Comm/ssbm/james are town

The last game I was in PV was scum and he was lurking through pretty much all of it, based on that experience he can be town cuz he's active right now.

As of right now Id lynch Sly/Tywain/Uzi

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VOTE: Uzi

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A lot of the conversation between him today feels like he's really on everyone case, that's not really a problem but I don't really feel like he's truly digesting anything. He's kind of gone from tunnel to tunnel when transitioning from Comm to Knight and he hasn't really commented on many other players between then. The lack of pause strikes me as weird since he seems like a more detailed type of player

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I could be wrong tho, I don't like Uzi's voting pattern so far based on his sheepness so I wanna go with him

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I meant Comm to Sly

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I think he already established he thoughts on James before the vote

I guess those other two things are legit but that's not really much

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They both strike me as TvT.

Specially, newtown vs newtown. Will look at it more after work, but comm looks new to Mafia based on him thinking his claim there was a good idea, since it doesn't really cc anything. They're both modified cops, although one is a non-consecutive role cop, the other a 1-shot normal cop. They both basically outted themselves without reason. Being a role cop should've told comm to expect things like a scum/town roleblocker, scum/town cop, etc, because there's no point to a role cop over a normal cop otherwise. Usually, town role cops need a reason to search for roles instead of simply guilty/innocent, so I think that should've been common sense to him. Due to that, also having a weak 1-shot cop makes sense and fits balance-wise, especially with the 'time shifted' mechanic in play. I think they're both newtown at this point, and regardless, neither are the correct lynch D1.

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What

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What does that quote have to do with anything

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I guess I just assumed the post happened earlier off memory my b

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Nah I was just mistaken

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I can't believe I get vilified for posting in 1 liners @_______@

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Ram vs Comm looks like town v town

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I highly doubt he'd claim like that if he was scum in that situation, he did it specifically because he thought he had a CC on James and scum wouldn't cc here

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Yeah I just don't see that move coming from scum, unless they're both scum and faked it all which would be pretty cool tbh

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The cc itself, I only see it coming from scum if they're both scum and made it up as a way to clear each other

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Idk that's between you guys lol but I just don't see any reason to think he's scum with the way things went down today

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Do you really think he'd cc as scum? He's got nothing to gain from that, unless it's something more elaborate than I think Im pretty sure he's town here.

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Is life ever that simple

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Skelda is town too I think by the way he reacted to the pressure on him earlier

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I still wanna lynch Uzi today

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I still wanna lynch Uzi today

Wynaut Pep?

With love, Ali

He could be scum but I haven't really noticed him

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What are you guys talking about

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I just meant in general like whats been going on in the last five pages

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I keep thinking ssbm and kyouko are different people it's very confusing when I read

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Whats the case on Harp

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I'm slow :/

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Honestly no idea whats going on in this game rn but I want you guys to know that im here and I care

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Has fitz always been in this game

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nvm I just noticed he replaced in

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and the quote trees and walls in this game are killing me
17 players is too many for this style of posting

I'm claiming

2-Shot Conciserizer

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Target: Ramcius
Target: CommKnight

All your posts must now be under 100 words (including quotes) or you will be mod-killed.

Is this a real role

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Define surprised

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I mean I guess it'd be interesting to hear why but getting called scum is part of the game

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Why do you think im scum

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Why do you spell it Wifam lmao

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I do feel bad for not atleast trying to be useful tho im not gonna lie

I'll try harder for you, ram

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Im not mad I thought it was funny

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Why do you think im scum

I find your lack of presence disturbing.

My activity fluctuates a lot regardless of alignment, im probably the type of person who can only play one game at a time


I have reads though


Skelda/Lox/Comm/Ssbm/James/PV all look town to me

The rest im not sure I or I haven't really looked into


Don't really have any big targets I wanna go after as scum specifically atm


If I had to do id lynch Uzi/Ty/Pep/Sly atm

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Add in ram for town too

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If we could get everyone to stop wasting time with posturing and start working together on a lynch, that would be awesome.

Like who tho

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VOTE: pep

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Yeah that Skelda vote sucked

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I'm just chilling man going at my own pace you know


How is not keeping up with the game and being lost scummy? If anything it's NAI

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That question was more about your read on Skelda

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ITT: Ramcius is trying to save his buddy.

I doubt it

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ramicus is pretty town he's just stubborn

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ramicus is pretty town he's just stubborn

Explain

His tone and questioning feels like they're coming from town, his attack on Comm when he first started seemed really town motivated even though I dont disagree with it, he's a pretty solid townread atm

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Who did you replace Nero

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Why do you think SSbm is scum sly

I could see Tywain

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VOTE: Skalda.

The fact that this guy hasn't been voted at all by anyone makes me believe he's scum.

That's NAI. Other people's actions are not indicative of a different person's alignment.

Not that I'm against a Skelda lynch, but that's just bs shade throwing.

What's the exact case on Pep?

I've pretty much forgotten he exists.

That's more reason to vote someone than "nobody voted this dude hurr de hurr"

You and vifam's reaction to my single vote on Skald is very interesting. I wonder why you both reacted so strongly to a single vote? Do you TR Skald, and if so, why? What makes you so upset about a single vote on a very inactive player?

I think he's town but it's your reasoning behind the vote that I really have a problem with, I don't see how anything you mapped out is scummy on Skelda's part and it feels pretty weak tbh

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Why ram

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wait for the tl;dr imo

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Yeah I don't think Ram is scum either

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tbh im not sure about pep either but I am sort of more interested in continuing at this point

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But Ram just outright feels like a bad lynch

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Isn't the deadline coming up

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I'll lynch whoever at this point fuck it

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Well not really

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oh okay that's nice

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I forgot I was in this game

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Alright well what do you guys wanna do

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We don't even have a lynch setup yet @____@

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Last minute lynch here we go

VOTE: Harp

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I thought we were letting him live

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I thought we were letting him live

Why? Like RC can't defend against anything PEP said/did but he's here and we can judge his play. Didn't you think PEP was slightly scummy anyways?

I just thought we were gonna be nice and give the slot the benefit of the doubt but if he's the lynch im okay with that whatever you guys wanna do honestly im just sick of this day

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Like aren't you guys bored now I wanna see a flip

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Like aren't you guys bored now I wanna see a flip

we can flip you, wouldn't that be fun?

idk I don't hate that game that much that I wanna die but I do wanna like end this day

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Last minute lynch here we go

VOTE: Harp

hmmm, he replaced like a week ago lol

Yeah, that's Fitz now.

Damm my bad

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VOTE: RC

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Shoulda tried that a week ago

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I know lol

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@___@

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This day has ran its course

Lynch pep/rc with me

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Join the RC wagon bruh we've got like a day left @____@

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Are you even that close to a lynch

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Is anyone close to a lynch at this point omg

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No reason it can't be Ramcius, turn.

He's town I think but whatever ends this day tbh

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We're gonna end up no lynching his game is so shitty

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this


I mean it's all our faults tho but still

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@___@ ill self vote if you guys get me to L1

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Cuz no lynching is lame and we're literally about to do that let's just lynch someone anyone tbh

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Like we already fucked up this day let's just get on with it

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Idc let's just lynch someone lol

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I'm just bored man

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Being a jester would be cool

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I'm a VT seriously tho

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Then I'm scum I guess @___@

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If you guys do seriously lynch me look into RC/Tywain/LoX there's scum in there

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Let's just end this day however we can

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If you guys do seriously lynch me look into RC/Tywain/LoX there's scum in there

why we shouldn't lynch you?

I'm town but we gotta fucking lynch someone my man my flip doesn't mean we lose so

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I'm cool with dying but I'm not cool with having no info D2 and having to go through the same shit again that we just went through

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Plus all night actions are delayed which means no nightkill so I'd have to talk to all the same ppl with the same amount of info again, no thanks lol I'll take the lynch

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RC no offense but you're a huge nerd

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Like I don't wanna be mean but man :/

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It's ok we all have things we feel we're very good at and should be recognized for, your thing happens to be roleplaying games, that's cool too

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That's cool too

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I'm sure you're great at a lot of things

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Yeah that's fine too your life still matters

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Tywain please stop lying

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Idk why get so riled up over forum mafia it makes me not wanna play when everyone gets all elitist and weird about it

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It all depends on the situation idk why you guys are discussing this

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This is why I lurked through the day cuz of topics like that that just lead to the same circular arguments let's decide on a lynch now

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I still wanna lynch RC

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@__@

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RC why do you actually think I'm scum

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Ok fair enough

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I have a question. Do you think that Scum!RC in this situation would have any difficulty finding someone besides myself to vote for and pushing a case on them?
'cause there's a point where you have to realize that anything, everything that I do is deliberate. Was the hangman a calculated way to get pressure off? yes. it worked.
But then again I could have done literally anything there and there are so many better ways to get pressure off as scum because doing what I did relinquishes control over the game.
I like controlling the game as scum because I direct the lynches and lead the flow of the game. Playing hangman and trolling does not garner you control of the game.
No, if I were scum I would have replaced in with a strong case on someone that I would have thought up before seeing role PM because I specifically wanted to play town.
Go in fast and hard with a really powerful case on literally anyone in the game, *probably* someone that has never been wagoned up to that point, get them lynched, continue game.
Is that self meta and thus unreliable? Yes, and I even lie about self meta constantly as both alignments. But I'm still town and at some point town needs to trust me so I'll do what I can to enable that.
If you're saying you don't trust the hangman because I'm RC: what exactly IS it that you would trust me to be town for doing, mister?

@___@

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I just @_______@

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I never said you were obvious scum I just want this to end

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You literally just gave a whole self meta speech like please someone end this day

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Were both at L4 someone get together and end one of us

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Someone has to go jesus christ

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If I get to L1 I got you

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I have a question. Do you think that Scum!RC in this situation would have any difficulty finding someone besides myself to vote for and pushing a case on them?
'cause there's a point where you have to realize that anything, everything that I do is deliberate. Was the hangman a calculated way to get pressure off? yes. it worked.
But then again I could have done literally anything there and there are so many better ways to get pressure off as scum because doing what I did relinquishes control over the game.
I like controlling the game as scum because I direct the lynches and lead the flow of the game. Playing hangman and trolling does not garner you control of the game.
No, if I were scum I would have replaced in with a strong case on someone that I would have thought up before seeing role PM because I specifically wanted to play town.
Go in fast and hard with a really powerful case on literally anyone in the game, *probably* someone that has never been wagoned up to that point, get them lynched, continue game.
Is that self meta and thus unreliable? Yes, and I even lie about self meta constantly as both alignments. But I'm still town and at some point town needs to trust me so I'll do what I can to enable that.
If you're saying you don't trust the hangman because I'm RC: what exactly IS it that you would trust me to be town for doing, mister?

that's a lot of words to say...
"I'm RC and I'm amazeballs."
"This is my town meta"
"I lie about my meta all the time."
"Trust me."

In a way it's kinda cute he's like a kid lol

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If he ends not up getting lynched he's gonna do a whole speech about how he replaced into a slot that was about to get lynched and how he turned it all around lmao he's a strange guy

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idk if you're scum tbh but your life before mine at this point, anything but a no lynch we cant afford to go through another day of this with no flips, everyone is already losing their shit and we really need to just thin the herd

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I play the same as every alignment I think

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Im just a calm guy idk what to tell you lol

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What makes you say that

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Or rather what posts specifically make you think I know you're town

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Well I am thinking there scum in RC/Tywain/Lox is scum atm when it comes to my wagon

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I had a townread on them earlier but their vote on my wagon sucked, but Tywain/Pep never really felt that strongly town to me

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The only other people voting me atm is Ramicus and Ssbm and I've always felt they're town so

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My bad who did you replace in for

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@Fire

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Yeah Skelda was townread of mine so you're okay

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If there's scum on my wagon it's RC or Tywin

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Thanks for the hint I guess

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Vifam why didn't you ever answer my concerns on the apathy and you doing this to get town points?

Idk man this is just my general playstyle regardless of alignment

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Yeah probably

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I don't even know you lol

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World renowned forum mafia player RadiantCowbells

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I don't think I've ever tried really hard as town but I guess stuff like that is up to interpretation

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Like in my head im just chilling but maybe people see something different in my towngames

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#justchillen

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You prob just take yourself too seriously

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It's just a roleplaying game at the end of the day

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Like even If I do get lynched today it's a large town can still win plus even if town loses it's not like my life is gonna get any worse lol

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Im chilling regardless what wagon im on tbh

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Plus you said you checked my towngames I was just referencing that

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I thought you liked talking to me

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Yeah I wanted to say that but I'd look like dickhead if I said it myself @__@

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And at this point I don't feel like going back and looking over stuff when were basically at the deadline

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It's not

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Thanks

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My antics aren't that outrageous, FB and LoX literally spammed a whole page

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If I'm getting policy lynched I dont see how it's for my general play, it's one thing to say I'm scummy but to act like I'm a toxic element in a game that's already lurk heavy and filled with trollposting is funny

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Ive given reads and I've discussed why I think why someone is town or why we should lynch ______ my biggest sin so far is not paying attention and lurking lol, which is half the game

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@Vifam
disregard the impending deadline
who are your top three SRs?

LoX/Tywain/RC atm

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ComnKnight/Ram/Firebringer/Uzi just because his replace out felt town

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The rest I don't really know tbh

I thought PV was town cuz he was being active which wasn't like his scumgame when I played with him earlier but he went back to lurking so

Fuzzy leans town to me, the apathy feels genuine, I guess he could fake that but I kind of don't get that vibe

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LoX/Tywin needed to be sorted out at some point tho

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needs to be, rather

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@Vifam
disregard the impending deadline
who are your top three SRs?

LoX/Tywain/RC atm

Brilliant detective work Vifam.

It does seem you picked the last few posters on the current page though. Do you even know whose in this game, or have you not paid attention at all? I'm curious what you think about 3/4ths of the game. A read list would be great.

What are you even saying

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Literally all those people I listed are in the game @___@

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I love how you've been implying I've had no reads the whole game when I've outright said who I think is town plenty of times

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Yeah he's playing differently than what I've seen of him as town before. He's much less logical and much more reactionary and emotional this game

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Plus I said I had a scumread on him before, he even asked me why I had a scumread on him and I told him. The fact that he's like "Oh it's interesting that you're scumreading me NOW" as if I haven't already said my read on him is sketchy.

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Fuck it VOTE: Tywin

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If you guys end up lynching me please look into Tywin seriously next

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Dont be mean :/

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Honestly Im really thinking Tywin is scum here and a LoX/Tywin team looks really unlikely, I hated LoX's vote on me but he makes a good point about Tywin's play this day

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Im pretty sure Comm is town

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I definitely gave you my reads, I really don't see why you keep pushing this idea that I haven't been given reads when if you go through my ISO for like five seconds you'll see different reads on several players on this game

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In fact I'll do it for you since you're so convinced that I've just been fucking around

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Actually you're right

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Comm is obv town here though

I think LoX/Comm/ssbm/james are town

The last game I was in PV was scum and he was lurking through pretty much all of it, based on that experience he can be town cuz he's active right now.

As of right now Id lynch Sly/Tywain/Uzi

Ram vs Comm looks like town v town

Skelda is town too I think by the way he reacted to the pressure on him earlier

Why do you think im scum

I find your lack of presence disturbing.

My activity fluctuates a lot regardless of alignment, im probably the type of person who can only play one game at a time


I have reads though


Skelda/Lox/Comm/Ssbm/James/PV all look town to me

The rest im not sure I or I haven't really looked into


Don't really have any big targets I wanna go after as scum specifically atm


If I had to do id lynch Uzi/Ty/Pep/Sly atm

Add in ram for town too

ramicus is pretty town he's just stubborn

Well I am thinking there scum in RC/Tywain/Lox is scum atm when it comes to my wagon

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I definitely gave you my reads, I really don't see why you keep pushing this idea that I haven't been given reads when if you go through my ISO for like five seconds you'll see different reads on several players on this game

You've given names, not reads. This is a learn 2 play issue maybe, but random names don't = reads. Give reasons for your reads. Reasons for your votes. Reasons for things you do and say. Not doing so means you don't have reasons, and by definition makes you scummy.

Lol ask me why I think someone is town or scum and I'll tell you why, the fact that you're all "oh wow you're so useless" but you're not even bothering to actually look through my ISO and ask me "Hey Vifam why do you think this" is scummy

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Like Im not going to post cases or long drawn out reasons because I never do that, but ask me and I'll comply. The fact that you're not attempting to work with me and assuming Im scum based off the fact that Im not giving you a detailed explanation for every thing going inside in my head is a serious issue

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In fact the only read that you've actually went out of your way to ask me about is your own, I don't remember you actually going out of your way to ask me how I've felt about any other player aside from yourself when It came to the reads I've been given out consistently

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Yeah were kinda at a stalemate right now @____@

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Its ok someone do something about Tywin at some point, this doesn't feel like his town play and he's honestly spent more time shitting on people and complaining than actually game solving and being inquisitive.

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RC could still be scum but Im really feeling Tywin more at this point

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I don't have experience with RC tho so I don't know if he's always overtly arrogant or if he really is trying to overcompensate

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Skalda was a town slot tbh

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why was that? I still have read nothing

General tone but iirc he had a whole case against Tywin which started purely on his gut and he said he couldn't even articulate it at first. I don't think he'd say that as scum especially that early in the game

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He's the lynch im most confident in atm

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If you're seriously voting me based on a policy lynch that's pretty dumb

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There's no reason to think Im a detriment other than the fact that I voted you, I've been a pretty good boy this game so far tbh