Mini 1867 -- TBD Mafia [game over]

[KainTepes]

I AM KAIN TEPES

[Aristophanes]

you guys are making me feel so old

Are you??

aren't we all

Best one yet! XD

[Aristophanes]

to me that is often how it goes on D1 though

I often get shit for weak-ass reads on D1 and I'm like "I can't fake having a stronger read when it's not there, it's early in the game, I'll be patient and let them develop"

I know, but it's not just weak ass reads. That I get. It's a lack of engagement in the game that is pinging me!

Take a read there. It's a quick Iso to do. Tell me what you see.

[Aristophanes]

I AM KAIN TEPES

Wait...since when!?

I thought you were Not_Mafia!

[drealmerz7]

Take a read there. It's a quick Iso to do. Tell me what you see.

it almost all looks like towny to me, that's the towniest slot in the game atm (narna we're talking about right?)

the only thing that caught me was this:

I think Dreal is being thrown by KT's aggressiveness. I think it would be really smaret to share some of our answers. Like I actually wonder if we can figure out if the gae is multiball through the votes.

scum usually want to know if it is multiball more than others, in my experience

as town I just am worried about scumhunting, I don't care about how many teams there are

[Azral]

Way to be as vague as possible. I only cased one person, and they are doing a decent enough job of responding to my points that we are making progress. Your last statement is out of left field and makes no sense. If that statement was consistent with my mentality, then drealmerz would be my #1 scumread.

I mean. Desperado basically said two things:

- McMemmo is scummy. (He is.)

- Any interaction between players can be studied, but focusing too much on the questionnaire gives scum an easy IIoA avenue. (This shouldn't be controversial.)

This led to you accusing him of confirmation bias, being dodgy, ignoring other wagons, not having reads and generally having a bad "methodology."

Doesn't feel genuine to me on D1.

[Azral]

ATTENTION; ALL THREE OF THE CURRENT WAGONS ARE ON TOWN.

Can you elaborate on this?

[drealmerz7]

ballsy scumtell?

[ɀefiend]

Way to be as vague as possible. I only cased one person, and they are doing a decent enough job of responding to my points that we are making progress. Your last statement is out of left field and makes no sense. If that statement was consistent with my mentality, then drealmerz would be my #1 scumread.

I mean. Desperado basically said two things:

- McMemmo is scummy. (He is.)

- Any interaction between players can be studied, but focusing too much on the questionnaire gives scum an easy IIoA avenue. (This shouldn't be controversial.)

This led to you accusing him of confirmation bias, being dodgy, ignoring other wagons, not having reads and generally having a bad "methodology."

Doesn't feel genuine to me on D1.

Ok, so you're not actually reading the game. You're skimming it and summarizing people's points to what you feel. I'm not going to engage you any further. If you want to have a nuanced conversation about it (like Desperado and I did) then I will try to work with you again.

[ɀefiend]

to me that is often how it goes on D1 though

I often get shit for weak-ass reads on D1 and I'm like "I can't fake having a stronger read when it's not there, it's early in the game, I'll be patient and let them develop"

I know, but it's not just weak ass reads. That I get. It's a lack of engagement in the game that is pinging me!

Take a read there. It's a quick Iso to do. Tell me what you see.

Do you always talk to your scumreads like this?

Or are you no longer scumreading drealmerz?

[Davsto]

I could have sworn I've posted within the last 48 hours. Apparently not.

Anyone got any question to direct at me? Am tired and didn't see anything hugely attention-grabbing in my time away except some posting from zefiend (which wasn't scummy and as such puts him up into a townier read purely on how many players aren't posting anything with substance) and a couple of others which I can't really recall

[xyzzy]

"none of you have actually changed your votes since the last votecount," says the omnipotent voice in the sky, "but there's a couple of prods in the mod notes, so here's another votecount!"

"what the fuck is a votecount, and what the fuck is a mod notes," says everyone in exasperation simultaneously. it's actually pretty impressive.

"well," says the voice in the sky, "wait until I tell you about 'pedits'. that'll blow your minds."

votecount 1.08

3 players voting for drealmerz7 (Davsto, Aristophanes, lane0168)
3 players voting for lane0168 (Narna, drealmerz7, FrankJaeger)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
1 player voting for McMenno (Desperado)
1 player voting for Desperado (ɀefiend)
1 player voting for ɀefiend (Azral)
1 player voting for Azral (KainTepes)

1 player not voting (Gamma Emerald)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in (expired on 2017-01-23 18:00:00)

mod notes: Gamma Emerald is V/LA until January 17 and has been prodded. Narna and Davsto have been prodded. p-edit: Davsto was able to post in the thread in the like 2 minutes between me sending the prod and making this post. good job, Davsto.

[Azral]

Ok, so you're not actually reading the game. You're skimming it and summarizing people's points to what you feel. I'm not going to engage you any further. If you want to have a nuanced conversation about it (like Desperado and I did) then I will try to work with you again.

Ok. I'll keep my vote on you then.

[Desperado]

Can you elaborate on this?

Think I already have. Lane, dreal, and davsto are all town.

[Desperado]

"none of you have actually changed your votes since the last votecount," says the omnipotent voice in the sky, "but there's a couple of prods in the mod notes, so here's another votecount!"

"what the fuck is a votecount, and what the fuck is a mod notes," says everyone in exasperation simultaneously. it's actually pretty impressive.

"well," says the voice in the sky, "wait until I tell you about 'pedits'. that'll blow your minds."

votecount 1.08

3 players voting for drealmerz7 (Davsto, Aristophanes, lane0168)
3 players voting for lane0168 (Narna, drealmerz7, FrankJaeger)
2 players voting for Davsto (McMenno, SnarkySnowman)
1 player voting for McMenno (Desperado)
1 player voting for Desperado (ɀefiend)
1 player voting for ɀefiend (Azral)
1 player voting for Azral (KainTepes)

1 player not voting (Gamma Emerald)

with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

the day will end in (expired on 2017-01-23 18:00:00)

mod notes: Gamma Emerald is V/LA until January 17 and has been prodded. Narna and Davsto have been prodded. p-edit: Davsto was able to post in the thread in the like 2 minutes between me sending the prod and making this post. good job, Davsto.

Davsto wagon is definitely the worst. Like, early contender for Worst Wagon of the Year.

Frank's vote on lane looks the worst, for sure. Dreal and Narna have at least been open about why they think lane is scum, they're just mistaken.

@ Davsto and lane; stop voting dreal and help me lynch McMenno, ya?

[drealmerz7]

in my limited experience with mcmenno he's been like this as town - he seems to like to lurk a lot and gets D1 lynched a lot, I prefer to give him a Day's chance and go after someone who actually has content that is scummy

lowpostinglurkers on D1 is weaksauce wagons

[Desperado]

Do you think scum are active or lurking?

[Desperado]

In this particular game.

[Desperado]

{Azral, Frank, Snarky, McMenno}

2 scum here I reckon

[KainTepes]

i think THERE MUST BE SCUM THAT IS LURKING,,

[ɀefiend]

{Azral, Frank, Snarky, McMenno}

2 scum here I reckon

I would throw VOTE: Aristophanes in there to be sure.

[drealmerz7]

Do you think scum are active or lurking?

you didn't address my point

I have no idea, you obviously do

[Azral]

Can you elaborate on this?

Think I already have.

Don't think so. You explained your drael read, but this is your first time saying davsto is town AFAICT, and you haven't said why. (Wagon composition?)

[Azral]

i think THERE MUST BE SCUM THAT IS LURKING,,

Agree on this.

[Desperado]

you didn't address my point

I don't care if McMenno has been lynchbait in the past or whatever your experience with him. In this game his active lurking and lack of engagement are scummy.