[SETUP] Self Sacrifice

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Post Post #1 (isolation #0) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:53 pm

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That strikes me as pretty unbalanced, with effectively confirmed town that can't be immediately killed, unless you have a bunch of selfish townies who demand to be allowed to stay alive. Maybe it's OK if the self sacrifice only works the first time all game someone tries it?
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Post Post #3 (isolation #1) » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:18 pm

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So I'd think you'd get, presuming that town always sacrifices for a lynch (while consistently mislynching, and presuming scum shoot out the BP):

Day 1: 10 VT, 2 goons
Night 1: 8 VT, 1 IC BP, 2 goons
Day 2: 8 VT, 1 IC, 2 goons
Night 2: 6 VT, 1 IC BP, 1 IC, 2 goons
Day 3: 6 VT, 2 IC, 2 goons
Night 3: 4 VT, 2 IC, 1 IC BP, 2 goons
Day 4: 4 VT, 3 IC, 2 goons

so even given a bunch of mislynches, it gets ridiculously grim for scum team by day 4 (and if they kill ICs instead of dropping BP, it's not really much better)

What MIGHT make sense is if the IC BP is just for that night. Then you get:

Day 1: 10 VT, 2 goons
Night 1: 8 VT, 1 IC BP, 2 goons
Day 2: 7 VT, 1 IC, 2 goons
Night 2: 5 VT, 1 IC BP, 1 IC, 2 goons
Day 3: 5 VT, 1 IC, 2 goons
Night 3: 3 VT, 1 IC BP, 1 IC, 2 goons
Day 4: 3 VT, 1 IC, 2 goons -> mislynch = game over

That's at least a bit more reasonable, although you're probably going to see a weird game state where some people want to be "mislynched" for the clear status, others don't want to save and die because they're ego players, and the scum is going to have to play around with driving mislynches while having excuses for not self-sacrificing.
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