Mini 1868 - Sakura Wars: So Long, My Love Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Reflektor]

They would sheep the wagon on town!!!

[Reflektor]

(Trying to determine where scum is going to vote isn't useful until we actually know something).

[Reflektor]

I'm disappointed that there aren't more LUV opinions in thread right now, especially from Fate; I understand you might not want to follow, but I'd hope a bro vote would at least be worth an honorableention.

[Realeo]

Which means that we are going to mislynch, right? How are we capable against 4 scum?

My mind shifts from "Which one is scum" to "Which town should I mislynch that gives the most information~ideally VT?"

And hopefully scores nice VCA in the future.

[Realeo]

There 13 players, it takes 7 players to lynch.

From those 7 player to lynch, it takes only 3 town to vote.

Scum has majority.

[Realeo]

(Trying to determine where scum is going to vote isn't useful until we actually know something).

We are a little bit desperate at this point.

[Realeo]

(Trying to determine where scum is going to vote isn't useful until we actually know something).

We are a little bit desperate at this point.

Vig and GS really should consider shooting and gunning

Vig should shoot for more info.

GS should gun for a clear in potentialy D2 lylo.

[Fate]

if you're giving up on lynching scum D1 youre in a paranoid corner that has no hopes of a glorious scum sweep


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=66116

This is how you play mafia with Fate and Nacho town

believe in the you that believes in me and open up the mind to possibilities

[Reflektor]

Honorable mention holy shit I fucked that up

[Realeo]

It's not about the scumhunting skill.

It's the fact that scum can have majority in the lynch wagon.

[Reflektor]

It's not about the scumhunting skill.

It's the fact that scum can have majority in the lynch wagon.

Majority is 7. There are 4 scum.

[Realeo]

Here's my naive read list with extra analysis paralysis, Creature style

Gamma Emerald
Reflektor
randomidget
Lil Uzi Vert

Empking

Aj The Epic
BBMolla
shadonra

-Grey-

Fate

Persivul

Medea The Alien

[Realeo]

It's not about the scumhunting skill.

It's the fact that scum can have majority in the lynch wagon.

Majority is 7. There are 4 scum.

It takes 7 to lynch, right?

We can have a lynch wagon of 4x mafia , 3x town. Town is in

an implicit

minority.

[Reflektor]

It's not about the scumhunting skill.

It's the fact that scum can have majority in the lynch wagon.

Majority is 7. There are 4 scum.

It takes 7 to lynch, right?

We can have a lynch wagon of 4x mafia , 3x town. Town is in

an implicit

minority.

What?

[Reflektor]

Realeo, step away from the ledge. You are having a paranoid meltdown.

[Realeo]

VOTE: Aj the epic

Scum used to be hard to find

*insert snarky response about you just being bad*

There's really no point in worrying about D2 already. If Vig shoots tonight and misses, then we'll have to mass claim tomorrow. That's about all there is to it.

Empking! BbMolla! Why don't you scumread this? Isn't this robotic~not scared of apocalyptic commet attack attitude

[Realeo]

Oh shoot. I forgot mod color.

@Mod: Why the hell GE is not replaced?

[Keybladewielder]

Oh shoot. I forgot mod color.

@Mod: Why the hell GE is not replaced?

Gamma Emerald has been on V/LA until today.

[shadonra]

I don't think that the shallowness of this observation makes it a weaker town case. It is clearly shallow. If you believe that Medea, just returned from hiatus, would fake this conversation as scum, fine. But I find this unlikely.

I think the problem is more with the premise that scum don't talk about or don't need to talk about setup speculation; if Cabd is playing, setup speculation is a part of his approach to the game regardless of alignment so townreading him for that is meh. In general, I don't think that talking about setup spec is a town tell like you think it is; that's why I find the observation shallow/weak.

ok, we disagree

re: randommidget post:
He made the argument that scum likes to setup spec inthread essentially to fake activity. This was not the basis for my townread, and his argument doesn't strike me as having thought things through - he's just trying to score a point.

He didn't understand your point, sure - why assign him scumpoints for it?

it looked to me like he was just trying to score a gotcha, but i've reconsidered. i think this wagon is leaving too readily.

i'm not down with medea wagon. slot doesn't look like scum to me. i'd rather have bbmolla or grey: bbmolla bc i actually hated the sideline comment on the randommidget wagon and grey for tossing mad shade everywhere (also indigo wasn't good, but not much posts so ..). uhh, i might also be able to go for realeo. widely townread tammy makes me reconsider, tho i'm having a pretty hard time getting a read on her myself.

VOTE: grey

[Reflektor]

it looked to me like he was just trying to score a gotcha, but i've reconsidered. i think this wagon is leaving too readily.

This is something that Realeo also brought up and I think it's a silly worry; it's been a full two weeks and the only thing even vaguely resembling a wagon is randommidget at what? 4? I don't think that the scumteam is trying to push through any lynch in particular.

[Reflektor]

bbmolla bc i actually hated the sideline comment on the randommidget wagon

The sideline comment you're referring to is talking about disliking Fate's push on it or...?

[Reflektor]

I think Realeo suspicion at this stage is atrocious and I don't really agree about Grey but we've been over that already. What is your LUV read?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Am I the only one who is townleaning shadonra?

Probably.

^^^

if you want that to change, explaining where your thought process is the most important first step.

To be more precise, I find it confusing that you scumread LuV, but didn't scumread Tammy. Tammy is not fitting in? If I were old timer like Reflektor, I would be alerted, which what Reflektor did.

I'm confused why you're seeing LUV's and Tammy's posting as comparable?
Also, you note that Prism attacked BBMolla for similar reasons, but I think that he was missing a bit of meta context; I've also played pretty extensively with Tammy and ended up townreading her instantly, although I'm not really sure that I needed the meta in order to do so.

Why do you need to have your blood pumping to feel enthustatic about a lynch?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Spoiler: Our Vert

Hey guys.

What's shaking?

I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?

I don't math but sounds about right. Why do you seem so concerned?

You're not? I like to have some chance at winning.

It's a rare occurrence to get a scum lynch day one, and it's a rarer occurrence that a vig kill lands on scum. That puts us at losing night two unless the stars align perfectly.

Not really. I have good feeling about the player list.

I think I'm gonna do RQS this game

Please don't.

I think our best bet is to just play and convince the vigilante to stay put if we mislynch D1.

Spoiler: Their Vert

Checking in.

I'm not familiar with any of the flavor but I feel like it could be indicative of alignment in some way. I'll try to read up on it sometime tomorrow.

Taking all of the claims so far with a grain of salt. I think Lady's post restriction thing might be legit though. Seems like it would be very hard to fake but at the same time it's a convenient excuse for lack of content.

Am I missing something with Camn and Jae? Saw a few votes on them and didn't really see anything too scummy.

Checking in.

I'm not familiar with any of the flavor but I feel like it could be indicative of alignment in some way. I'll try to read up on it sometime tomorrow.

Taking all of the claims so far with a grain of salt. I think Lady's post restriction thing might be legit though. Seems like it would be very hard to fake but

at the same time it's a convenient excuse for lack of content.

Am I missing something with Camn and Jae? Saw a few votes on them and didn't really see anything too scummy.

The bolded, for clarification.

Not once has LLD used it as an excuse for lack of content.

p-edit: hmmmm Spyrex can go up a tier

I'm just saying that it could be used as an excuse since she's having a difficult time so far with posts.

Seems like it would be very hard to fake

Posting with good grammar is hard to fake?

To me yeah. Depending on what and how much you want to say, especially if you have no one to proofread your post.

Okay on a reread I'm seeing what you guys are seeing now. I thought you guys were voting Jae for their vigilante comment which I found fairly reasonable considering what kind of game this is.

I don't understand how Jae originally found a conformation post more worthy of receiving a read compared to someone claiming miller. Even if you have a real reason for not factoring the claim, you could have still commented on her laughing at Lady's claim. I mean that would have most likely been received null but it's better than leaving someone off the list like they never posted.

Why the TR on Magna?

To general meta concerns, I feel like Lil Uzi Vert in the other game didn't feel like he was trying to avoid saying anything marginally uselful/risky; there, he pushed on someone because he thought they were maybe faking a PR claim, he clarified what was going on between players and he gave opinions on it. Here, I'm not really sure how to qualify his play other than coasting.

Vote: Lil Uzi Vert

I'll probably continue a larger case tomorrow when I have a little more time to work with but this is where I want to lynch today.

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I don't think you did your homework properly. This not only lacks context but a comperhensive understanding of my personality. This feels like you scrambled to find a reason to stay away from the Fate-Midget debate. Anyone can pick out a few posts from a previous game and compare them to posts from a current game same said player is in and say this isn't their town game.

VOTE: Reflektor

[Gamma Emerald]

I mean Tammy/AJ are universally town read

Lol at trying to throw AJ in as an universal townread.

what about Tammy tjho