[REVIEW] Open Setup Reviews

[mhsmith0]

@boring: Town can collectively vote on one person to be saved, but scum still has an enormous number of options, which means that the "PR" is pretty low utility.

Note, for instance, that semi-nightless
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... -Nightless
is 9v2 with two nights scum outright can't kill (way more pro town than suggested setup) and that's considered about balanced

FWIW, a more expansive version of your proposed setup has been run a few times on a different site
http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/view ... 07&t=37791

Immunity Idol Mafia
9v4
Day 1: Highest 6 support votes (probably just go HEAL: boring or the like) get idols and can't be killed
Day 2: Highest 5
Day 3: Highest 4
...
Day 7+: No idols

My guess is for MS something like that would need to be more like 10v3, though maybe to balance it you cut the idol count down by 1 or 2 as well (that way you still are guaranteed to have at least one townie available for NK every night for a while, but scum are stymied from getting to kill the players they likely most want to kill for quite a while)

[mhsmith0]

I thought mime lynch = mine and scum win? Do mimes win alone?

[mhsmith0]

wrt mimes, IIRC jesters get endgamed if scum are eliminated and they're still alive, so I'd think same thing applies there. The big question IMO is whether wincons are constructed such that mime wincon is INDEPENDENT of other wincons (so they can win with either faction), or if it's three different factions, only one of which can win.

I think the key here is to make sure wincons are fully understood and explained pre-game, so that everyone knows what they're getting into. Scum rolling in game state but getting beat by mimes when they didn't realize that only one faction could win, for instance, isn't ideal at all.

[mhsmith0]

sounds like popcorn mafia except more townsided