Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

[gigabyteTroubadour]

giga, I think you owe me a wall.

quoting this so i can refer back to it

i owe cassie thoughts on creature's D2 (general thoughts are ??? he's hitting his personal towntells but Wave-skim (haven't finished, i just got to when creature replaced in but he doesn't feel super town) makes me a little paranoid that i just got really cocky with my super-mathematically-proven-scumhunting techniques)

and creature and cassie schadd_?

Sorry to hear that

nbd it's just something i gotta deal with

I don't have much to say about this game. I just want to see Creature lynched.

fair enough tbh

[mattblackguy]

Giga who do you think would be the best person to lynch today?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Giga who do you think would be the best person to lynch today?

at the moment casielle but i really need the weekend to re-read, write out my thoughts, and stuff like that

i don't want to slow the game down but i'm far from ready for a lynch

[gigabyteTroubadour]

Preflip associatives are trash, people.

First, flip scum. THEN find their partner.

Yeah, though we need to find scum first.

We have, but you don't want to bus.

Instead, you'd rather throw out scumreads with no reasons behind them and discredit your buddy's wagon.

when did you start scumreading creature? this feels really out of left-field

[gigabyteTroubadour]

tbh schadd_ flipping town would also help.

coming from literally anyone else i would vote creature as soon as i saw this but this is such a town!creature post i hate it

[Creature]

grey can i get a reads list

If I had one, sure.

At this point, all I know for sure is that I don't want to lynch you or Creature.

RC is fishing for lynches here, and I'm getting fed up with it.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

bwuh

?????????????????????

didn't he just say he was townreading me or at least heavily insinuate it??

grey your brand of assholery needs explanation please and ty

[Creature]

I feel like I'm supposed to have a Post Explosion (see my wiki), but I don't feel inspired to make it.

[schadd_]

and creature and cassie schadd_?

?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

-grey-: i'm leaning town. we have someone on dominion forum that's very similar (argumentative, likes to tick people off, pulls shit like 1131) and he is more helpful and easy to deal with as scum, to the point of being a tell. obv they're different people though, but that's the parallel that i have

this is really spot on for grey tbh but it's far from a surefire tell if that makes sense

his townread of me is still icky

and creature and cassie schadd_?

?

they want me to write a wall about how literally every post you write bleeds town

[mattblackguy]

Preflip associatives are trash, people.

First, flip scum. THEN find their partner.

Yeah, though we need to find scum first.

We have, but you don't want to bus.

Instead, you'd rather throw out scumreads with no reasons behind them and discredit your buddy's wagon.

when did you start scumreading creature? this feels really out of left-field

grey can i get a reads list

If I had one, sure.

At this point, all I know for sure is that I don't want to lynch you or Creature.

RC is fishing for lynches here, and I'm getting fed up with it.

Oh shit I can't believe I didn't notice this.

VOTE: Grey

[gigabyteTroubadour]

townbloc with threatening people (SEs) and nightkill within it to trim the numbers

i dont think it's an effective strategy, or at least for someone like me

i've only played scum once and it was a really easy game because town had a death wish and refused to lynch scum

so basically i have 0 confidence in my ability to persuade people to keep going when i'm clearly pushing the game in the wrong direction, which is what such a strategy entails (sticking to your guns for basically the whole game)

speaking of how i'd approach this game as scum i want creature to elaborate on why he thinks this can't be scumplay based on my one game? usually when people have meta reads like that i want to know how legit it is

[mattblackguy]

Giga, isn't Grey like conf scum now?

[gigabyteTroubadour]

I know the explanation for the read on you is pretty accurate from my own experience. A lot of those are similar tells to how I read you.

But I don't think faking townreads is particularly difficult, if you have experience with a player especially and know their meta. If based on past games the expectation is for them to easily read you I don't see the read as anything unexpected, especially if there was the incentive of trying to buddy as well.

agreed w/ the sentiment here in general

do you think my townread on creature has been used to buddy him?

Giga, isn't Grey like conf scum now?

no not really

but that was a pretty awful set of posts

[gigabyteTroubadour]

literally every slot in this game that isn't conftown is what i call a "frog-in-a-blender" read

constantly moving at 500 mph

red and green. red and green.

@rask is there anything you want to ask me that i can answer quickly (like not in a wall post)?

[schadd_]

Giga, isn't Grey like conf scum now?

nop. my guy that i'm comparing him to will do that thing, addressing someone as scum, while being like "nah they're town." it's still possible to be scum that forgot his reads tho

[schadd_]

literally every slot in this game that isn't conftown is what i call a "frog-in-a-blender" read

constantly moving at 500 mph

red and green. red and green.

gah

[mattblackguy]

I still think Grey is scum, and just fucked up really bad.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

literally every slot in this game that isn't conftown is what i call a "frog-in-a-blender" read

constantly moving at 500 mph

red and green. red and green.

gah

except you tbh

also matt why did you ask 1312?

[mattblackguy]

also matt why did you ask 1312?

I wanted to see if you would try to defend him or not.

I still don't see how a townie can call someone scum, and then a little later say that they don't want to lynch the person they called scum.

[cassielle]

wrt gbT:'s thoughts thus far on creature d2: waiting for rask to talk about it, i really want conftown's thoughts more than yours tbh

wrt mbg/rc scumteam: i see it from matt in a sense but the same is true when it comes to a large amount of the players here tbh-- HOWEVER!
however, mbg has been pushing for lynches with a bit more invective on the side when it comes to the lurkslots of d1. see: when RC questions TB on schadd_ wagon 913 and 1292 and compare to 99.9999% of mbg's ISO

mbg doesnt get that sort of acid in his tone outside of pushing for d1 lurk slot lynches (e.g. tb, shade/-grey-). hell, even i dont get the same sort of reactions from mbg when he pushes on my slot. thoughts guys?

ftr: i dont agree that mbg matches well with rc, because rc doesnt feel scum to me atm

[mattblackguy]

nop. my guy that i'm comparing him to will do that thing, addressing someone as scum, while being like "nah they're town."

As a joke or being serious? Because it didn't look like Grey was joking.

[cassielle]

EBWOP: (e.g. tb, shade, -grey-), not shade/-grey-

[gigabyteTroubadour]

also matt why did you ask 1312?

I wanted to see if you would try to defend him or not.

I still don't see how a townie can call someone scum, and then a little later say that they don't want to lynch the person they called scum.

why would i defend him if i pointed out the initial inconsistency though? dgi

also cassie i'm basically on the same page wrt matt/rc. plus matt's last few posts are kinda..............

i think jumping from voting me and saying {creature/grey} buddy the next day to voting grey over a perceived scumslip is just such an "easy" thing to do i would totally expect it from newbscum, and 1312 just pinged tf out of me

rask what are your thoughts here

[-Grey-]

Preflip associatives are trash, people.

First, flip scum. THEN find their partner.

Yeah, though we need to find scum first.

We have, but you don't want to bus.

Instead, you'd rather throw out scumreads with no reasons behind them and discredit your buddy's wagon.

when did you start scumreading creature? this feels really out of left-field

I was being snarky.