Open 665 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over! Town Victory!!!
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Hawk's rebuttal was mostly theory talk and wishy-washy comments that didn't really go anywhere. If I feel the need to respond to it later today when I have more time, I'll do so.
I haven't dodged your question - you asked why he is being lynched for coasting. I'm saying that's not why he is being lynched. What more do you want me to say?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Antihuman Goon
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This is a cop out.In post 550, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Hawk's rebuttal was mostly theory talk and wishy-washy comments that didn't really go anywhere.
Wait a sec, just before you claimed I said he's being lynched for inactivity, now you acknowledge I asked you about coasting.In post 550, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: I haven't dodged your question - you asked why he is being lynched for coasting. I'm saying that's not why he is being lynched. What more do you want me to say?
What is he being lynched for then ?I'm an alt-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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You want to play Semantics?
Because I'm not about that life. I said inactivity, you said you didn't say that, so I changed it to what you said.
I see that you're going to try and pick a problem with whatever I say. I'm cool with that.
Crack on.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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Antihuman Goon
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-Grey- Jack of All Trades
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Idk, ask scumIn post 554, Antihuman wrote:What is Hawk being lynched for?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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BBT, what is your read on havingfitz?“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Lol.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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"-grey- would hardclaim an inno on his obv-scum partner D2 in a micro if he could" - gigabyteTroubadour
"You type like a Bond villain." - DogWatch-
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boring Mafia Scum
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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boring Mafia Scum
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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FancyPants he/himMafia Scumhe/him
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I'm sorry, BBT. If I turn out to be wrong about any major points leading to my conclusion, I'll explain the whole thing later. Until then, we can call it "gut".
Empking is still scummy for basically the same reasons as Hawk, except Empking's defense wasn't as good. A wagon stalling from apparent apathy suggests that there are people resisting it, who are unwilling to voice their resistance. That's scummier than open, active resistance.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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This post is nasssty.In post 513, Antihuman wrote: I'm not townreading him but I feel like his lynch's just "too easy". I can't recall the last time I lynched somebody for 'not being towny enough' and they actually flipped scum. Which is also why I'm not too happy about my prolonged stay on moz's wagon
I can see your reasoning but I don't think this is necessarily a rule. However, I don't see him as scum too.In post 511, boring wrote:.
Snarky has given us non-sheep reads. For example, BBT isn't exactly a heavy favorite for today's lynch. He feels confident enough to pop in, say he thinks BBT is scum, and then turn his back. It's a very bold move for scum. If he was scum, he'd more more likely to sheep and agree with the majority.
What about the Hawk lynch was 'easy'? Where did you get that from?
I detect a tad bit of buddying from Anti to boring here with the comments relating to SS.
How would you feel about lynching Moz?In post 520, Hawk wrote: I'm literally at work trying to form a reads list and responded to all your call outs for early game shit. Lynch me if you want but when I flip green you'll be no closer to winning if you really are town. Which I don't think you are.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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havingfitz Survivor
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I was about to unvote you Hawk because of your reaction to the pressure you got yesterday but on closer look....I still find you suspect and your response to my ISO was weak. And too much "honestly" and "sorry" for my liking btw. I also still suspect Ali. And I'm growing suspect of boring lately as well. I was going to say I wasn't a big fan of Empking and Snarky either because of the lack of effort they seem to be putting into this game and then I realized the same thing applied to most of the players in the game. FP...CMM...Moz....LUV. Fcuk. Actually LUV has posted a good bit. Not sure why it feels like he hasn't.
In response to your 517...
- Being on a wagon for no good reason that get's to L-3 is right on the borderline IMO of being dangerous. The fact that you comment on there being no reason to unvote is what pinged me when clearly there was at least 1, ex. you having no reason to vote him and him being at L-3.
- So you didn't have a strong read on Emp...yet you were ok following Ali and boring onto his wagon bringing yet again...a player to L-3 for reasons unknown to me.
- I'm still having issues with your Ali defense based on meta and the fact you say meta is NAI. How can you defend Ali based on his meta (very limited meta at that) when you do not think meta is NAI? You can't.
- I'm "drawing a lot of conclusions from theory posts?" A lot? One isn't a lot...so show me two conclusions I've made from theory posts. And if one of them is you and Grey being friends...scratch that becuase that wasn't a conclusion. A conclusion would be me saying...Oh look...Grey and Hawk are friends now. I don't say that. I ask if you were to which you were perfectly capable of, and did, reply no. So show me a lot (2) conlusions please.
- "This is probably an error on my part" How can you say you weren't treating the game as a mason game when you had discussed theory about masons potentially facillitating mislynches if they all agree (with mafia) on a mislynch wagon? "probably wasn't unaware of the idea" doesn't fly when you talk about it, more than once, a few ISO posts earlier.
So my vote stays.
So Hawk...why are you still voting Empking? Do you suspect him?
Can you name 2 or 3 players you actually suspect?
Can you name 2 or 3 players you actually think are town?
Here's where I stand at the moment.
Suspects: Hawk, Ali, boring
Suspect a little less: Snarky, Emp, FP, Moz, CMM, LUV & Anti
Suspect least atm: Grey, BBTTown 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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What do you like about Anti's posting?In post 529, Alisae wrote:I like Fitz and AH's words.
Why not?In post 532, Alisae wrote:
Gut and currently I can't.In post 496, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:What about their tone tells you they're town? Can you give specific examples of 'how they've been playing' that makes you think they're town as well please?
How did you rule out TvT or SvS in this situation? What specifically tells out it is TvS?In post 534, Alisae wrote:I'm convinced BBT v Hawk is TvS. Can't figure out who the scum is in this situation.
So I'ma just sheep this
VOTE: Hawk
[/quote]In post 539, -Grey- wrote: I'd rather Lynch mozamis, though. He's done nothing to change my read since I voted him.
I'll lynch Moz if Hawk will.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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havingfitz Survivor
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BBT....what is your read on Ali and do you suspect moz more than him?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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havingfitz Survivor
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You obviously do.....why?Town 57w-66l :: Not Town 29w-16l:: TBD 2
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it's an interesting thought. However, I think if Anti were trying to buddy me, he wouldn't borderline misrep me at every interaction (I say borderline because I'm leaning toward it being genuine miscommunication, as in, we just function on different wavelengths).In post 567, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I detect a tad bit of buddying from Anti to boring here with the comments relating to SS.
P-edit: Fitz, Can you explain why I'm in your highest suspect list? This is the first I've heard from you having anything at all to do with me, iirc. If you can't get Hawk or Alisae today, would you vote for me?
Pp-edit: BBT, I might be able to do Moz. The look of the game would have to change for me to vote Anti now. Why not Empking?-
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BlueBloodedToffee Survivor
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Ah fuck, forgot about Alisae.In post 572, havingfitz wrote:You obviously do.....why?
I wanted to try and create a small lynch pool but for some reason I'm struggling to do it. I would also lynch Alisae so I'll put Anti on the backburner for now.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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