Newbie 1769: Happy New Year! (Post-Game)

[RadiantCowbells]

I think he saw weakness in my slot with Grey having already voted me and Creature supporting the vote.

[Raskolnikov]

Hey RC can you go into your schadd townread pls thanks

[mattblackguy]

It wasn't out of the blue. I said earlier that RC/Schadd were in my top 3 scum teams.

And there was no Eureka moment. Just the way Schadd/Shade interacted and the how RC has been acting since he joined the game.

[cassielle]

yeah thats my read. i dont think hes ever pushed a wagon that didnt have weight on it all game long? cba checking but

nothing comes to mind. sheeped gbt, sheeped me, sheeped you, sheeped you AGAIN, sheeped grey

[RadiantCowbells]

I'll get you mroe detail on schadd in 20 minutes.

[cassielle]

sounds good, i eagerly await

also mbg: that doesnt fit with you sheeping rc twice, recall rc's criticism of grey and his compromise vote on schadd_ with me? yeah, its not good play to sheep your biggest scumreads

you should be voting on them, not with them

i do not buy these arguments you have

[Raskolnikov]

yeah thats my read. i dont think hes ever pushed a wagon that didnt have weight on it all game long? cba checking but

nothing comes to mind. sheeped gbt, sheeped me, sheeped you, sheeped you AGAIN, sheeped grey

so what exactly happened? you were reading ISOs and it just really stood out?
what put it so much above the other teams?

[cassielle]

misquoted rask :p but i know you meant 1402

[Raskolnikov]

i have to go to bed...

obviously no one force any claims or do anything crazy while im gone

this day at a minimum is going to see gigabytes contributions

[Raskolnikov]

sounds good, i eagerly await

also mbg: that doesnt fit with you sheeping rc twice, recall rc's criticism of grey and his compromise vote on schadd_ with me? yeah, its not good play to sheep your biggest scumreads

you should be voting on them, not with them

i do not buy these arguments you have

i want to say, if someone is actually working with scumteams and associative stuff instead of individual reads its plausible

[RadiantCowbells]

Or your mattblack townread just sucked which is what happened.

[cassielle]

the problem im having with "plausible" here is that all of that plausibility is hinging on one aspect of an otherwise content-free argument in favor of lynching a vulnerable slot, an argument you yourself noted feels hastily constructed

"plausible" on one corner of a structure thats supposed to have three still leads to a falling building, and so it is with this argument

i do agree though, i want gbT on board here before day ends and id like rask to be able to wake up and give conf-town reads on the situation before we hammer

IDEALLY id like to draw the day out to near deadline but im aware by now that this is unpopular and im really really sure of scum!mbg

[Aeronaut]

- VoteCount 2.7 -

With 8 players still alive, it's 5 to lynch!

[L-3]

mattblackguy -

RadiantCowbells, Cassielle

[L-3]

-Grey- -

Raskolnikov, Creature

[L-5]

schadd -

[L-4]

RadiantCowbells -

mattblackguy

[L-5]

Raskolnikov -

[L-5]

gigabyteTroubadour -

[L-4]

Creature -

schadd_

[L-5]

Cassielle -

Not Voting

- gigabyteTroubadour, -Grey-

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2017-01-28 20:00:00)

[-Grey-]

Yeah, still good with this.

VOTE: matt

[cassielle]

mbg at L-2, lets not go to L-1 until gbt adds their $0.02 and rask returns please

im also wanting to see schadd_ and creature pitch a couple posts in before hammer. this is the sort of situation that i want to get a little of everyone to post on before we hammer the slot, better reads d3

[schadd_]

l0l

gonna talk this evening

[Creature]

I don't want to lynch matt.

[mattblackguy]

I don't want to lynch matt.

Well the lynch options for today are Me, RC, and Schadd. If I get lynched today then town lynches RC/Schadd tomorrow, and then the other on day 4.

No point in mislynching any other townies today.

[cassielle]

and what precisely about his past few posts has said town to you creature

i cannot see a town motivation here. he sheeped his way around the whole game, no original reads. he pointed at other peoples' posts to come up with solid-looking reasons for why.

this time he has some original reasoning: and his two original points are just "nah i see it like scum" but without much explanation of why. the hammer maybe is a solid point, yeah, but its also the part he could have sheeped off of my earlier posts, gbT, etc... long list of people who really didnt like Radiant hammering.

the explanation that IS there relies wholly on reading as scum to begin with and falls apart if one flips green or even just disagrees with the premises -- for instance just read 1381, how can mbg possibly know why shade replaced out? esp considering shade hasnt posted since anywhere on the forums. (feel free to check if you disbelieve.)

thats NAI, period, but without a solid platform on shade his schadd_ read's original reasoning falls apart and dies (NOTE: not saying schadd_ doesn't look like scum, saying mbg's reasoning is flimsy) and without having the schadd_ read his RC read dies. its nonlinear reasoning couched in the appearance of logic:

Q: why is schadd scum?
A: because shade is scum and schadd_ had a read i dislike on that slot.
Q: why is radiantcowbells scum?
A: because it's the same slot as shade and supported schadd_.
Q: why is shade scum?
A: because he replaced out and i attached scum motives to it.

take shade out:

Q: why is schadd_ scum?
A: because ???
Q: why is radiantcowbells scum?
A: because they supported schadd_

and then on top of that, only jumping on wagons with weight already on them, and more importantly only active wagons, not stalled ones?
concern with appearances d1?
a definite change in tone toward the cartoon villain end of things when hes pushing a weighty wagon?
(if you want references for that last one, i have a couple here, let's see. 913, 1292)

defend a townread of this slot and i will take my vote off. yes, even if my other scumreads can defend it. because i dont think its defensible and if anyone can deal a blow to the scumread i have on mbg i cannot reasonably trust anything i think about this game

[Raskolnikov]

I'll get you mroe detail on schadd in 20 minutes.

[Raskolnikov]

I'll get you mroe detail on schadd in 20 minutes.

[Raskolnikov]

@matt

It wasn't out of the blue. I said earlier that RC/Schadd were in my top 3 scum teams.

And there was no Eureka moment. Just the way Schadd/Shade interacted and the how RC has been acting since he joined the game.

so what exactly happened? you were reading ISOs and it just really stood out?
what put it so much above the other teams?

fixed quote, this was for you

[Raskolnikov]

[quote="In post 1416, Creature"][/quote]
who do you think is scum if you townread both rc and matt?

[Raskolnikov]

WTF

[Raskolnikov]

*

I don't want to lynch matt.

who do you think is scum if you townread both rc and matt?