Mini Normal 1866: Landmark Mafia! (Mafia Victory!)

[Alisae]

Don't mind me I'm just gonna quickly skim 7 pages.

[Alisae]

I am a miller.

k

[Alisae]

Perfect!

o.o

I think that means I'm winning!!

VOTE: Srceenplay
Somebody has a deal with the mod! xD

That statement is untrue. That makes you a liar. Vote all liars.

VOTE: Pep

Fucking disgusting

[Alisae]

Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.

I agree with this statement 100%.
Mostly because I know em.

[Alisae]

a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.

I think it's more likely for a scum to claim miller early than for scum to counterclaim miller. This is in part because of how unlikely two millers are.

If Firebringer is scum, then claiming miller was a big risk for him that could also have paid off. On the other hand, if RadiantCowbells is scum, claiming miller would be a terrible move, since at best he'd get a mislynch on Firebringer and then be confirmed scum, and at worst he'd be lynched straight off Day 1.

It almost seems to me like we should put such a bad scum move past RC and vote Firebringer, but that's WIFOMy.

I'm not doing anything either way until RC confirms that his claim was serious.

Fucking scumposting right here.

I dunno if it I missed it, but where's the vote

[Alisae]

I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.

Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

Don't understand how you find any connection between the two posts. In the first one I say I'm not a complete Newbie and it is pretty insulting saying that (even if I make dumb mistakes) and in the second one I say that since I don't know you as players as well as you know each other, I cannot say if somebody would do something or not, like some of you have done till now.

If you're not a newbie, you don't need to know us personally to read us.

Read between the lines, newbie.

Hey now, play it nice. Also please read what I'm saying and to waht I'm replying before you actually start lynching for no reason.

You're talking to Grey. Good luck with that.
With that said, I like you.

[Alisae]

grey is back to null with his recent behavior. His constant attacking seems kinda forced.

Hi, my name is Grey, it's very nice to meet you.

[Alisae]

Hi everyone! Really excited to start playing forum mafia again!

VOTE: Obvious Alt for what she said in the Queue.

/in mini

Saying this here, before role PMs go out, so saying it later is NAI. This account is experimenting with a new strategy to test its validity. I will be leaning HEAVILY on initial gut reads, and will be unlikely to respond to alternate views coming from others.

Everyone here owes it to the town to participate fully in discussion and scumhunting, and a great deal of that happens with back-and-forth argument and working off of each other's ideas. Trying to fly solo, though it may not be scummy in this one particular case, is anti-town IMO. So let's put her through some extra scrutiny by votes.

Bullshit.

Hi everyone! Really excited to start playing forum mafia again!

VOTE: Obvious Alt for what she said in the Queue.

/in mini

Saying this here, before role PMs go out, so saying it later is NAI. This account is experimenting with a new strategy to test its validity. I will be leaning HEAVILY on initial gut reads, and will be unlikely to respond to alternate views coming from others.

Everyone here owes it to the town to participate fully in discussion and scumhunting, and a great deal of that happens with back-and-forth argument and working off of each other's ideas. Trying to fly solo, though it may not be scummy in this one particular case, is anti-town IMO. So let's put her through some extra scrutiny by votes.

First, hello to everybody and second I hope that Alt takes a serious approach to the game and is gonna participate to the fullest, else he might actually ruin the experience. But this is also not something you should use as a clear argument before everyone got to even say hello.

I fully intend to take it seriously, it has merely been my experience of late that the more people allow themselves to be influenced, the more they tend to be manipulated. I'm going back to basics, and trusting my own gut - not yours.

I'll listen to and engage with discussion, but I'm going to be listening to myself most of all.

I am a miller.

Acknowledged. Thank you for following protocol.

It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.

All aboard choo choo choo.

Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

Is this for real?

It's time for us to gloriously VOTE: Draw.

All aboard choo choo choo.

Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

What if we are both miller? O_o

Super unlikely.

Town read on antora

I concur.

Grey you sound like a house alt

I was thinking the same, actually.

Pending a confirmation from RC, my guy says Grey should go.

VOTE: Grey

Edit: Those last posts from Garmr make me suspect him too.

Why again?

[Alisae]

No Lynch is never an option on d1.

Yet you voted for it.

Hello captain obvious

Garmr, why are your posts so fixated on Firebringer?

Answered this yet you never bothered inquiring further into why not?

Also I cc miller so powerlynch Firebringer.

What if we are both miller? O_o

It's much, much likelier that one of you two is scum.

RC, you serious about your miller claim? Because if you are then we have at least a 50/50 chance of lynching scum Day 1 and that's a great place to start.

I feel like your just posting this shit to make it seem like your involved. Anyone who's not new can see rc is bull shitting at this point with the lack of vote.

a scum should be idiot to claim miller. (I'm sure Fire and RC are not idiots - ) [I'm joking! I love you both] cause there is a meta to never let a miller reach mylo lylo.

I think it's more likely for a scum to claim miller early than for scum to counterclaim miller. This is in part because of how unlikely two millers are.

If Firebringer is scum, then claiming miller was a big risk for him that could also have paid off. On the other hand, if RadiantCowbells is scum, claiming miller would be a terrible move, since at best he'd get a mislynch on Firebringer and then be confirmed scum, and at worst he'd be lynched straight off Day 1.

It almost seems to me like we should put such a bad scum move past RC and vote Firebringer, but that's WIFOMy.

I'm not doing anything either way until RC confirms that his claim was serious.

engage in wifom then right off your own post as wifomy what's the motivation as town to do this. It seems counter productive and just looks like something someone would post to make it look like their doing something.

ahh let me make the case then:

No. No Lynch is never an option on d1. That you are feigning objection to it for now and keeping it open as a possibility for later if town is amenable to it gives me scum vibes.

@Anotora , You stated your not a fan of Grey no lynch vote, but thats a topic to discus later in day. Grey beleives you're scum for pretending/suggesting No lynch is a viable discussable option in day 1.

what that makes you think about Grey and his rvs no lynch vote and then his next vote on you?

You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on his actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.

Compliments grey on his scum hunting and calls him pro town doesn't list anypoints seems like a generic make believe read.

no I asked what that particular thing I said means to you.

Could you rephrase that? I don't understand.

You're asking what my read on Grey is? My very early read on him is somewhat pro-town based on his actual scumhunting effort, with clear posts with clear points to them.

I'm protown for scumreading you with clear posts with actual points to them?

Sounds like a confession if I ever heard one.

VOTE: Anotora

Why are you votehopping?

Contradicts the last post by calling him out for vote hopping. If grey makes good points why are you asking him about his vote hopping and instead not try and argue against his case against you. Instead of trying to figure out why he scum reads you. You scarecrow him in a different direction.

and I mean I like to know what is your opinion about the fact that "he scum reads you for believing Not voting is a topic to be discussed later in day"

I mean, it was a reasonable thing for him to criticize, especially considering that was only page 1 and we didn't have a lot to go off of.

So it's ok early game to not say much ok.

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Okay, I'm good with going back to this.

It almost seems like you're rewarding me for townreading you, by taking your vote off of me and putting it back on Pepchoninga. That's the scummiest thing you've done so far.

But grey has such good town read right you think his points on pepchoninga were good from his perspective. You don't seem fussed with his actual reasoning to vote you in the first place. Seems like your just attacking here for a possible vote.

VOTE: anotora

I like you as well

[Alisae]

Garmr laid that out pretty good. Good job.

VOTE: Anotora

[Alisae]

Garmr laid that out pretty good. Good job.

VOTE: Anotora

Hey everyone, if you ever want to see what a lurker looks like, go read Srceenplay's ISO.

Well that didn't work.

I'm sorry.
What have you done this whole game?

[Alisae]

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

[Alisae]

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Woooow. All that from five posts.

I know right!
Aren't I amazing at this game!

[Alisae]

BTW did I ever mention how I don't like you nor your growlithes?

[Alisae]

Did I ever mention how I don't like you either?

[Alisae]

BTW did I ever mention how I don't like you nor your growlithes?

That's racist against my species.

Yeah yeah, let me show you my squirtle squad real quickly.

[Alisae]

Firebringer, if you're trying to buddy up to me, it's not working.

FB is obvtown even without his Miller claim.

Huh?
Let me reread his ISO real quickly.

[Alisae]

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Woooow. All that from five posts.

I know right!
Aren't I amazing at this game!

Give that person a medal!!!




Write FAIL on it.

Wait. Is that the only shit you have to say to that?

[Alisae]

VOTE: Srceenplay

I never would have expected that from you.

I would have expected no defense from you.

[Alisae]

So, we can't really talk much about it because of Rule 11 (ongoing games), but Srceenplay's meta is interesting and everyone here should definitely check it out.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Alisae]

Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.

I agree with this statement 100%.
Mostly because I know em.

You say I'm a noob too?

That's why I don't like playing with ya

Don't throw shade at me!
I wanna work with you!
Hell, you get benefits from it too!

[Alisae]

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Woooow. All that from five posts.

I know right!
Aren't I amazing at this game!

What the hell was that tho? Seems like Grey asked a provocative question, Alis answered with a sarcastic answer and got a passive response...is this a buddy request?

Grey buddying me?
Fucking Disgusting.
I don't think Grey would ever buddy on me, moreso I would buddy on him. But I don't wanna do that

[Alisae]

Pepchoninga feels flat scummy but in a very newbie way. He might just be newbie.

I agree with this statement 100%.
Mostly because I know em.

You say I'm a noob too?

That's why I don't like playing with ya

Don't throw shade at me!
I wanna work with you!
Hell, you get benefits from it too!

I would work with you if you admit I'm your superior...you have wounded my heart enough

Now, please don't go to far in my private space

I don't think you are anything close to townleader if that's what you mean.

[Alisae]

Grey buddying me?
Fucking Disgusting.

That was just mean, buddy.

Okay Grey. Let me ask you this honestly: Would you ever buddy me?

[Alisae]

Grey buddying me?
Fucking Disgusting.

That was just mean, buddy.

Okay Grey. Let me ask you this honestly: Would you ever buddy me?

I wouldn't rule anything out as a possibility. It all depends on circumstances, buddy.

Alright fine. I'll apologize to you as well.
I am sorry for saying that you wouldn't buddy me. I thought you wouldn't buddy me mostly because it's your character not to and you are ususally a very aggressive player when you're town.

[Alisae]

I do get quite insulted when I'm called a newbie.

Fair enough, I haven't played with you lot, so I cannot talk about what one of you would or would not do.

VOTE: Pepto Ninja

Can't have it both ways, mate.

Don't understand how you find any connection between the two posts. In the first one I say I'm not a complete Newbie and it is pretty insulting saying that (even if I make dumb mistakes) and in the second one I say that since I don't know you as players as well as you know each other, I cannot say if somebody would do something or not, like some of you have done till now.

If you're not a newbie, you don't need to know us personally to read us.

Read between the lines, newbie.

Hey now, play it nice. Also please read what I'm saying and to waht I'm replying before you actually start lynching for no reason.

You're talking to Grey. Good luck with that.
With that said, I like you.

You like me, or Grey?

I would like and answer btw.

From that specific post you. I like Grey for other reasons.

[Alisae]

I would like and answer btw.

Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

...
You're different.

[Alisae]

I would like and answer btw.

Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!

No...This isn't a slip Peppy...
I usually like to push people who push slips that aren't slips hard, but this is definitely not a slip.
But he either said that for 2 reasons.
A. He actually is trying to pocket me.
B. Sarcasm. I bet it's the 2nd one.
Either way the reasons are WIFOM

[Alisae]

I would like and answer btw.

Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!

No...This isn't a slip Peppy...
I usually like to push people who push slips that aren't slips hard, but this is definitely not a slip.
But he either said that for 2 reasons.
A. He actually is trying to pocket me.
B. Sarcasm. I bet it's the 2nd one.
Either way the reasons are WIFOM

Maybe I misunderestimated you.

Huh?
Okay you are definitely acting wierd.

[Alisae]

I would like and answer btw.

Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!

No...This isn't a slip Peppy...
I usually like to push people who push slips that aren't slips hard, but this is definitely not a slip.
But he either said that for 2 reasons.
A. He actually is trying to pocket me.
B. Sarcasm. I bet it's the 2nd one.
Either way the reasons are WIFOM

Maybe I misunderestimated you.

Huh?
Okay you are definitely acting wierd.

Admitting fallibility is weird?

No, you are playing wierd right now in general. I don't know what to make of it. It's not something I've seen you do before.

[Alisae]

Off the top of my head and so I can remeber how I'm feeling for latter
Confirmed town
Yoshi

Confirmed town to me
Myself


Solid Town reads
Firebringer
Alisae
Rc

slight town leans
Pepchoninga
-grey- his slot has been jumpy to me through but it hasn't dropped past a null.


scummy
Frozen angel- I think I have to elaborate on this one. Frozen has 30 post 8 pages in and she hasn't really put down a solid stance. Her vote is own me with no real serious reasoning for it to be there other than I voted her. I noticed that she was implying that grey was scummy but didn't jump on him in post 71. She ask for peoples opinions on players and does nothing with it. After this she is just defending herself from firebringers weak push (no offense buddy but your push on frozen seems kinda weak). Frozen angel to my memory is a paranoid player who is quick to push for reasons that puzzle me sometimes. She is not that she is not parinoid she is content with the situation she is in despite actually not hunting or anything. This is not a town frozen.

Anotora-Stated my reasons multiple times.

Where the fuck is that Screenplay?

[Alisae]

Garmr makes some really nice points here. A common thing I see is the Ano seems to be trying to hard to be involved. His posts seems kinda forced at times, also he took more time on the stupid milner ccs then needed, even tho it is widely expected that it was just some RVS messing combined with other reasons. Props to getting Screenplay into the scene, since lurkers are quite dangerous, but still this doesn't ignore my last point. I might be repeating what others have said but this is the thing that mostly stuck out in his posts and other people's cases on him

Why do you think he (who the fuck is he in this case) spent more time on the miller ccs then he should have?
Screenplay lurking? EHHHHHHHH Thats a stretch.
Screenplay not contributing? That sounds more about right.

[Alisae]

I would like and answer btw.

Stop pressuring him until I get him pocketed, geez.

I will take that as a slip!

No...This isn't a slip Peppy...
I usually like to push people who push slips that aren't slips hard, but this is definitely not a slip.
But he either said that for 2 reasons.
A. He actually is trying to pocket me.
B. Sarcasm. I bet it's the 2nd one.
Either way the reasons are WIFOM

Maybe I misunderestimated you.

Huh?
Okay you are definitely acting wierd.

Admitting fallibility is weird?

No, you are playing wierd right now in general. I don't know what to make of it. It's not something I've seen you do before.

Reread my 259.

I always play controversially as town.

It's still weird, okay!
It needs a bit to sink in!

[Alisae]

RC how do you know it wasn't a stream of consciousness?

[Alisae]

For some reason RC's avi reminds me of Metal Sonic. I never actually played with Metal Sonic but I heard stories about him.

[Alisae]

Also am I going fucking crazy, or did's Grey's tone feel like it durasticly change?

[Alisae]

Metal Sonic adapted my Annie avi at one point. He was a pretty cool dude. Are you a pretty cool dude?

I hope I am a pretty cool dude.
I moreso identify as loli tho.

[Alisae]

RC I see it, but I'm hesitant. I think he's just being very stupid.
Plus I like my vote on Screenplay better currently.

[Alisae]

I am leaning town on Screenplay and am extremely opposed to the wagon.

Why?

[Alisae]

I don't see any reason to scumread him. You are voting so you obviously do. Why is he scum?

Have my case

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

[Alisae]

RC that's fair that you aren't in a rush to make them do much.
I also want to add that Screenplay's defence is shitty.

[Alisae]

Anyhow RC, what exactly are your reads as of currently?

[Alisae]

Kay. I don't like you.
Your vote is on a townread, yet you have scumreads.
VOTE: RadiantCowbells

[Alisae]

Oh really?
I missed that vote honestly.
My bad.
VOTE: Screenplay

[Alisae]

Hey! I'm sorry!

And I don't like that mindset you have Grey. You mentioning Lynchbaits really comes off as self-conscious.

[Alisae]

I don't want you to be sorry I want an in depth explanation of why you thought it was scummy that I was still voting Firebringer.

Okay. It's scummy that you were voting Fire because I don't see how it makes logical sense to be voting a townread.
Also that vote could have probably been in RVS in which case, mybad.

[Alisae]

I don't want you to be sorry I want an in depth explanation of why you thought it was scummy that I was still voting Firebringer.

Okay. It's scummy that you were voting Fire because I don't see how it makes logical sense to be voting a townread.
Also that vote could have probably been in RVS in which case, mybad.

Okay, so it's illogical. Why is it SCUMMY. Why would SCUM be apt to be voting Firebringer for a reason that TOWN would not?

It's scummy because it's something I don't see town doing.
I don't see town voting their top townread.

[Alisae]

I find it really weird that you remembered that my vote was on Firebringer but claim to not realize that the vote happened in an early stage of the game nor that it wasn't serious nor that my vote changed.

I can believe that you forgot that my vote changed but that just makes this feel like you fishing for reasons to vote someone.

To be fair I did sorta just look at the most recent VC.

It's scummy because it's something I don't see town doing.
I don't see town voting their top townread.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person that does things to bait reactions.

RC could probably write a doctoral thesis on it.

Why does this come off as buddying RC?

[Alisae]

I can believe that you forgot that my vote changed but that just makes this feel like you fishing for reasons to vote someone.

Look at the way he's been poking me lately, too. You ain't special!

Difference is I haven't voted you.

[Alisae]

There we go, that's the Grey I know!

[Alisae]

There we go, that's the Grey I know!

Did you like how I appeased you there, buddy?

Okay, you're driving me crazy with your tone differences.
Why are you trying to get me to vote you?

[Alisae]

There we go, that's the Grey I know!

Did you like how I appeased you there, buddy?

Okay, you're driving me crazy with your tone differences.
Why are you trying to get me to vote you?

Why would scum try to get you to vote them?

Why would scum say "Why would scum do x?"

[Alisae]

- Contribution is limited beyond "I like you", "I don't like you".

"I like you" and "I don't like you" means "I think you're town." or "I like this post" and of course the other means "I hate this post" and "I don't like you."
Just FYI for someone who didn't understand cause that's what it seems like.

[Alisae]

Good post, with actual opinion. That's a first. I am active but I'm not really going ham for reasons already explained. I would like to wait for everybody to post there first posts, so I can get my reads up. You can't start a disscussion when there are people who haven't even gotten into the game. We have 2 weeks to form opinion and to execute our game plans. Why should I rush something like that? You know if I was scum I would I want long days? I might be newish, but I'm not stupid. I want to prevent fast and unnecessary wagons until we have everybody up and running. I am getting into discussions and provoking reactions. Please reread the situation of Grey, since if you take anything in those posts seriously I think you need a doctor. As I said, if I was serious for a second about the Grey slip I would've started making a case on him and ultimately going for a lynch. In the light of that I don't see how this argument is valid. Why is post #268 so bad? And no, I won't vote you for something so little. What you did is gave you a slight scum read but this doesn't mean I would lynch you. When I see a target I am sure about you will see me attacking with full strength. I belive that lynching people is not always a good thing. It is a way of pressuring and a way of starting/continuing/finishing the action of killing. But it's also a tool that if placed wrong could get you lynched without doing anything. I belive we should deduce what people do and have discussions about it and then starting to throw pressure lynches and straight up wagon lynches. My vote on Screenplay was a RVS vote and I also have commented on the Screenplay situation.

A. Why don't you just get your reads up now with what you currently have?
B. You can start a discussion with those currently in the game.
C. Shadethrow.
D. Attack someone will full strength. It's better then what you're currently doing.
E. In this case a lynch is better then a no lynch.

[Alisae]

Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward

So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?

Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.

And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

[Alisae]

Oh! Pepcho! You're right, I completely missed your chiming in on Srceenplay in #289.

Screenplay hasn't stayed for an actual disscussion so you can actually say "Yes, he is here, but he isn't contributing". Also this isn't exactly the Screenplay I know, but he might just not have anything to go for still.

You are completely unjustified in defending Srceenplay like this, and a post like this gives ground to suspect a Pepcho/Srceenplay scumteam.

Good theory but I'm just pointing out the obvious. Just as many players here know each other and how they play, I also know Srceenplay a bit, since I'm curently playing in another game with him. He either is a very bad scum or has other good explanation for his bad contribution to the game and sometime cocky responses.

Do you wanna know what would make your defence on him genuine? An unvote.

[Alisae]

Let me be perfectly clear, then, if you don't think I'm clear enough. I think Pepcho/Srceenplay are a scum team, and the third scum is either one of the inactives or a relatively skillful player we can't root out yet with the given information.

Great, we have a game solver...tbh, your recent posts seem to be very aggressive. Is it of frustration or because you are angry that your game plan didn't work? This isn't provocative or anything I'm just trying to see a reaction and an answer.

Um...You know gamesolving is a good thing. Right?
I'm starting to think all the other shit I saw earlier was fake.

[Alisae]

I don't see any reason to scumread him. You are voting so you obviously do. Why is he scum?

Have my case

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Don't all votes have reasoning and help progress the day?
Are all sheep scum?

Your votes don't.
Not all sheep are scum. But implying that I meant that all sheep are scum is a fallacy.

[Alisae]

Frozen Angel

+ Asks the right questions to move discussion forward

So?

What has she done with the answers to those questions?

Not much, which is why I have a null-ish read on her.

Why didn't you do straight up reads? Cuz this seems like a thing to blow the waters away.

And where are your reads again?
Not to mention people do reads differently.

Explained in last post. Reads will be given, when everybody has catched up.

And yes, this might be true, but he hasn't done reads. He is giving pluses and minuses but not explaining them, nor connecting them with his opinion of the players as a whole. Also we have found many inconsistencies with his "read" (if we can call them that as you suggest) and his previous posts.

No, fuck you. Do them now.

[Alisae]

btw Frozen reads as if she's just getting into a TvT.

[Alisae]

A lot of TvTs.

[Alisae]

C: Don't see what is shaddy here. Care to elaborate?
D: I think you do know I'm more then capable and willing to attack with full strength. But I curently don't have suspects that are good enough for that, except maybe Ano. But still, I'm IN NO rush. 13 days is more then enough tho.
E: People tend to make arguments from lynches. Many times lynches that aren't thought out with good reasoning can get you a false lynch. I want to be certain in what I do.

C. No you are throwing shade at people. By telling someone to go see a doctor. You also threw shade at me with the "alidick" thing.
D. No I'm not lmao. Stop saying you'll fucking do it and actually do it. Unless your scum. If Ano is a suspect do it for Ano.
Let's also add if Ano is your only suspect you can make a case for, why isn't your vote on them?
If you're delaying yourself on purpose, and not voting someone who you think is your strongest scum case, then at this point you're just delaying the day.
E. IIoA. I'm pretty sure this whole stuff you've been saying is super fucking fake anyways because you said it a bit too much. You saying it once gave me a TR read. You saying it multiple times made that TR read go away.

[Alisae]

Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.

The bolded are ones you should be explaining.
Also it would really make your top scumread a lot more genuine if you were voting for them.

[Alisae]

BTW I'm not questioning why Firebringer is a townlean overall. I am questioning why YOU think Firebringer is a townlean.

[Alisae]

Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.

Fake

I agree.
With both your post and the reads.
If they were fake, wouldn't you want to attempt to ask for why some of the reads are what they are or attempt to strike them down?

[Alisae]

Is it funny that Ano and Pep started to buss each other after the two were suspected to be scum buddies? Oh gosh, they're so obvious, don't they?

You wanna know what would make this post genuine? A vote on either one.
VOTE: Pep

[Alisae]

Is it funny that Ano and Pep started to buss each other after the two were suspected to be scum buddies? Oh gosh, they're so obvious, don't they?

You wanna know what would make this post genuine? A vote on either one.
VOTE: Pep

A counterwagon would be nice to the caught-scum. Cheers!

VOTE: Pep

Appeasement.
Let's be clear: I don't like you so far.

[Alisae]

D. When you're absolutely sure that's not a pressure lynch anymore.
Now you're just fencesitting.
I hate the "Why would I do that as scum" bullshit as of recently. Same thing as "I would do X as scum" All just a bunch of WIFOM
You're also not attacking them either.
E. Where have I asked the same questions over and over again?

[Alisae]

Frozen I think that's more targeted at Anotora

[Alisae]

Possible Scum:
Anotora

Slight Scum lean:
Srceenplay

Null:
Obvious Alt, -Grey-, Frozen Angel, Radiant Cowbell, keyenpeydee

Null leaning Town:
Alisae, Firebringer

Town:
Garmr

If I have missed any active player, please tell me.

The bolded are ones you should be explaining.
Also it would really make your top scumread a lot more genuine if you were voting for them.

Alt is a player I cannot judge since he has like 2-3 posts at max. His explanation was semi-good, but I need more. Same with Radiant Cowbell. I can't really read him at this point. Grey is a person that is very inconsistent in the way he behaves. This means that he is usually constantly moving from slight town to slight scum leans. Atm tho he is a solid null. Frozen seems very shaky in her defense but I also belive she is town from her response and reactions. Fire's claim was beliveable enough and also while he isn't very active what he has done seems pro-town at least for now. You have been doing good job with asking questions and doing something about, so I like that. Tho you are the same old bote so you are still not a very strong town.

Gun to your head all of your null reads.
Saying their null because you can get a read off of what they have posted is bullshit.

[Alisae]

Anotoro accused pop of defending screen. screen said something, you said that an unvote would made it more genuine.

if his response was clarifying he is not defending screen (like the way it is) why he didn't react to your sentence? Antono accusation happened before the particular sentence

Is this for me or for Pep? I'm confused now.

[Alisae]

I'm asking you is this a scum move? What do you think I should do to make you change your opinion? Asking what you think I should do.

Appeasement IMO.
Delaying the day could be a scum move.
If you have to ask what you have to do to make me not SR you the answer would be nothing at this point because your scum unless you do something that's townish.

[Alisae]

Dear Keyen and Screenplay
Please add shit to the game.
Love, Alisae

[Alisae]

Hey Fire, what are your reads currently?

[Alisae]

Dear Keyen and Screenplay
Please add shit to the game.
Love, Alisae

I'm waiting for D2 and I got my post count up just for you.

LOLWTF WHY?
Are you basicly saying that you have no stance on what is going on and that you have no reads?

[Alisae]

Dear Keyen and Screenplay
Please add shit to the game.
Love, Alisae

I'm waiting for D2 and I got my post count up just for you.

LOLWTF WHY?
Are you basicly saying that you have no stance on what is going on and that you have no reads?

Screenplay answer this.

[Alisae]

Also RC I think I got that if you were doing what I think you were trying to do.

[Alisae]

Frozen Angel is not my lover.
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one.
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

Sounds to me like a personal problem.

Screenplay what is this? Like you are openly just posting crap across the board.

I may be contradicting myself, but you have not been lurking for the past few hours. You have been actively making fun of the game state.

VOTE: Srceenplay

This is scum!pep attempting to push Screenplay cause he was caught.

[Alisae]

Weren't you voting and pushing Screenplay?

I was.
If you are wondering what makes our pushes difference, pushed early and then unvoted to push Pep.
To me Pep feels like he's trying to push to get pressure off of him.

[Alisae]

@Alisae what do you think of me?

Scum

[Alisae]

@Alisae what do you think of me?

Scum

why?

You aren't really doing anything to contribute to the game and I think you're just sheeping my 2 biggest scumreads.

[Alisae]

@Alisae what do you think of me?

Scum

why?

You aren't really doing anything to contribute to the game and I think you're just sheeping my 2 biggest scumreads.

So you feel like I'm sheeping you, correct?

Ye

[Alisae]

@Alisae what do you think of me?

Scum

why?

You aren't really doing anything to contribute to the game and I think you're just sheeping my 2 biggest scumreads.

So you feel like I'm sheeping you, correct?

Ye

What if if I tell you I base my votes and reads on my guts and I also find those 2 biggest scumreads of yours scum too, does it still considered I am sheeping you?

There are also people who are voting your 2 biggest scumreads, why not accuse them of sheeping?

If they are gut reads fine, atleast you explained why you are sheeping me.
And I think you specificly are sheeping me because if you really thought Pep was fake, you wouldn't have to have me call you out on not voting, you would just do it.

[Alisae]

Or they can just vote the person independantly with their own reasons as to why they're scum?

[Alisae]

Yeah I can tell xD

[Alisae]

Grey I forgot Boxxie was a meme lol.

[Alisae]

Dear Keyen and Screenplay
Please add shit to the game.
Love, Alisae

I'm waiting for D2 and I got my post count up just for you.

LOLWTF WHY?
Are you basicly saying that you have no stance on what is going on and that you have no reads?

Screenplay answer this.

No.
hope that answers your question.

If you have reads then give them.
If you have stances to take then take them.

[Alisae]

I'm not lynching you today FA. If you are in fact town then just focus on scumhunting.

Glad we're at a mutual understanding.

So, from my understanding, Pepcho voted for Srceenplay in RVS, kept the vote there for about fifteen pages, removed it "because my RVS vote seems to be causing so much trouble", and then just REVOTED Srceenplay for no additional reason because now he's under pressure to make a case.

...And people think my contribution is worse than his?

VOTE: Anotora
I really dislike this post.
Like, a lot.
L-1, claim.

[Alisae]

Why do you dislike it Alisae?

UNVOTE:

Feels like they're trying to derail the wagon by shadethrowing.

[Alisae]

mlmooney, where am I?!?!?!?!

[Alisae]

My game play has been consistent all game.

LOL IT'S KINDA TRUE ACTUALLY.

[Alisae]

Why do you dislike it Alisae?

UNVOTE:

Feels like they're trying to derail the wagon by shadethrowing.

To be fair alisae anotora has been shade throwing at their town reads the whole game.

Difference here is they're voting Pep.
anotora isn't TRing Pep

[Alisae]

Alisae- Good convo but that doesn't mean much doesn't look town or scum yet

How does this make me null?

[Alisae]

Fire what are your reads again?

[Alisae]

Town: angora

Huh?

Scum: Frozen angel

Huh?

[Alisae]

L-1
This is the part where you claim.

[Alisae]

Cuz ya know, that's a town thing to. Right?

[Alisae]

L-1
This is the part where you claim.

Is ther intent somewhere?

Not from me cuz I'm already voting them. Why?

[Alisae]

I don't really get what you're asking from me? I mean, an intent to hammer would be nice but I much rather get a claim out of the way before deciding on a lynch.

[Alisae]

Becuase claiming before a lynch is pro-town?

[Alisae]

if you think someone else besides you is going to intent to hammer ano right away, you are impatient.

[Alisae]

Becuase claiming before a lynch is pro-town?

Yes claiming before a lynch is good but why do it if it's not needed. Needlessly claiming is bad for town.

Are you implying that it's not needed?

[Alisae]

Ano is at L-2 because RC unvoted so that when Ano get's home, they can post shit.

[Alisae]

atleast that's how I interpret the unvote.

[Alisae]

Town: angora

Huh?

Scum: Frozen angel

Huh?

Angora equals antora

No I mean explain the reads.

[Alisae]

You don't get to decide how your posts are read by others, Pep. That's kind of the point of the game.

Yes I do, when you are completely shifting there meaning. This is common tactic of scum. You are shifting my comment so they can apeal to your cause when I've explained multiple times the meaning of that post.

So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?

Rolefishers gonna rolefish, lol

I'm not role fishing. But you are trying to make me look bad with ONE quote. You don't have a good case on me and you don't seem in the slightest to be interested in digging up one. Also lets not forget your contradict way of reading the way and not having any real arguments against any of your case. You seem to be trying to look active by making big post where you just say how people look more scummy then you.

UNVOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: Anotora

You've been looking bad this whole game as well.
VOTE: Pep

[Alisae]

You don't get to decide how your posts are read by others, Pep. That's kind of the point of the game.

Yes I do, when you are completely shifting there meaning. This is common tactic of scum. You are shifting my comment so they can apeal to your cause when I've explained multiple times the meaning of that post.

So I'm gonna ask you now. You gonna claim?

Rolefishers gonna rolefish, lol

I'm not role fishing. But you are trying to make me look bad with ONE quote. You don't have a good case on me and you don't seem in the slightest to be interested in digging up one. Also lets not forget your contradict way of reading the way and not having any real arguments against any of your case. You seem to be trying to look active by making big post where you just say how people look more scummy then you.

UNVOTE: Srceenplay

VOTE: Anotora

You've been looking bad this whole game as well.
VOTE: Pep

Yeah sure, I'm always playing bad, and you are always godly.

Give reasons for your vote

Same reasons as before and your scummy.
To quote you "Go look back at my earlier posts for reasons"

I'm actually thinking that Screenplay is lurking town.

[Alisae]

Actually you know what I don't oppose a pep wagon. I just don't want my scum read anatora to fade into obscurity because people are being pussies about a subtle yet intintional power role drop with out a claim. Scums capable of doing that to lol.

I think scum would have just flat out claimed if they had a PR role because it's relatively safe. Sorta WIFOM tho.

[Alisae]

Back home, brb reading up on this shit.

[Alisae]

now you need to

Stopped reading right there.

I don't need to do anything but find scum.

You can think whatever you want of me, that's not my concern.

That's blantly false. A town win condtion - assuming you're claiming to have won - is to make sure all scums are dead. Unless you're a ascietic bulletproof lynchproof vigilant or a bulletproof innocent child vigilant what you just said makes no sense.

You need to answer the questions that are asked from you because from you're pov I must have more than 50% chance to flip town regardless of you're read (regardless of you're alignemnt). You're read on me is litterally irrelivent. Thats according to your wincondition to answer my concerns and That must be your concern.

It's not Grey's concern to convince you that he is town. It is his concern to lynch and find scum.

[Alisae]

The first is not a lie. It's a misunderstanding.

The second is not a lie. It's remembering events in different orders.

The third is practically the absolute truth and calling it a lie is just you're poor attempt for dodging my questions which is asking why the two above is scummy ^

VOTE: Grey I only omgus scum.

if it's omgus where is the vote?

[Alisae]

That's a scummy explanation when it comes from someone who almost always uses preview-edits.

what the hell are you talking about? I wasn't online at all when he unvoted first. I skimmed the not read pages which was the same reason I mistkaed about the first crap he calls a lie as well and I saw RC unvoting again - so I assumed when pacho pushed for a claim on you you were at L1 naturally.

how is preview-edit related to this at all?

I didn't push for a claim. I asked if he would do one. He was L-1 in and out and I don't know why anybody isn't talking about the inconsistent voting of RC.

Whats the difference?

[Alisae]

I'm not maniplulating using emotions

I was palying based on logic alone and I was being scum readed for being different. No one will change their read on me till they see I can be the way I am atm. No one is listening to the points I make till they see that this is my town meta so my flip is practically more beneficial to game and to myself.

you don't need to feel bad about it. You don't need to fell anything about it. I'm not trying to chnage any of your reads. I'm saying i won't replace out and I won't play the game untill my flip is out.

Pinkie swear

now vote me.

Wowie self-aware lynchbait

[Alisae]

I am up to page 33, ill be done soon.

His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.

There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

why misunderstanding and remembering events in a wrong order - when there was a reason for remembering them in wrong order (RC unvoted agian later which made me think anoto was L1 when pap asked for claim) is scummy?

But I dropped back to L2 waaayyy before Pep tried to make me claim. There should have been no confusion.

She's scum misrepresenting events. End of story.

Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today

VOTE: Grey

Congrats you just summarized Grey's towngame.
Also thanks for confirming my scumread on your slot.

[Alisae]

Also I like Screenplay a bit more. Besides that, nothing new here.

[Alisae]

Congrats you just summarized Grey's towngame.

That's just rude.

Jin misrepped me, that is why his post is scummy.

I know right!

[Alisae]

This is going to bug me so much is alisae metal sonic alt?

WTF how do I remind you of Metal Sonic?
I've been meaning to read up on his games because he really interests me as a player.
But no I'm not really an alt.

[Alisae]

Grey = house

Nope. I kinda wish people confused me with Albert B Rampage, been reading his wiki articles and he seems cool as hell.

Who?

[Alisae]

Grey = house

Who?

[Alisae]

This is going to bug me so much is alisae metal sonic alt?

WTF how do I remind you of Metal Sonic?
I've been meaning to read up on his games because he really interests me as a player.
But no I'm not really an alt.

You honestly have more in common with grey/house than Metal Sonic.
I am just wondering how you know of this guy who hasn't played here for more than a year.

He was mentioned in another game.

[Alisae]

Alisae is an alt of Maria

Lol isn't Sonia one of Maria's alts?
If so, I'm currently in a game with Sonia.
Nice try tho.

[Alisae]

Also why do I see a lot of people with fucking Chao as their profile pic on here.

[Alisae]

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With 13 votes available, it takes 7 to lynch.

Pepchoninga (L-3) - Anotora, -Grey-, Alisae, RadiantCowbells
Anotora (L-5) - Garmr, Pepchoninga
Srceenplay (L-5) - Firebringer, mlmooney89
-Grey- (L-5) - Obvious Alt, Secret Agent Jin
Frozen Angel (L-6) - Frozen Angel

Not Voting (2): kentofan, Srceenplay

Firebringer is V/LA until January 9th

Deadline: (expired on 2017-01-16 14:00:00)

Here you go. No new votes I believe.

[Alisae]

It's easy to call a lie a mistake after you're called out on it.

If she can't get simple details right, she needs to replace out if she's actually town because her analysis is worthless.

The only way her staying in game after making "mistake" after "mistake" after "mistake" (six thus far) makes any sense at all is if she's scum.

not getting the order of events right because of a duplicate unvote and missing a text structure are not lies.

You fail to explain why those mistakes are scummy - so you're just trying to make some shit up here and get a fish from this muddy water.

But that's fine. People will read this again after my green flip - Today

Hey, you wanna know what would be really cool? If you could stop talking.

[Alisae]

That was worse than any of my post.

Mine? If so explain.

[Alisae]

That was worse than any of my post.

Mine? If so explain.

telling not to contribute is not helpful or if that wasn't it being rude not helpful. You can pick whatever reason you want.

A. They aren't contributing.
B. They're flailing
C. Scum can hide under the noise she's making

Hey, you wanna know what would be really cool? If you could stop talking.

see your not the first who asked that and you won't be the last!

Now vote me

No you're just being an idiot.

[Alisae]

A. They aren't contributing.
B. They're flailing
C. Scum can hide under the noise she's making

A. I contributed but no one is listening
B. I'm definitely not flailing
C. So vote me!

why is that so hard

A. Not with this vote me shit.
B. Yes you are.
C. No, you're lynch bait.

[Alisae]

A. Oh but I am contributing with this. Look at how people reacted to this. RC is more full of guilt atm before making me flip and Grey is scared to push me when with his crap reasoning that he can't back up I'm as scummy as pep. His best chance for lynching me is to do that later in game when game is just full of paranoid people about my slot.

Huh...So this is just all one huge reaction test...

Frozen angel stop voting yourself

Yes sir!

You want nothing else sir?

What's the point of not voting myself when without it you can't town read me in any game and all my points are going to get ignored?

Appeasement.

[Alisae]

Frozen angel stop voting yourself

Yes sir!

You want nothing else sir?

What's the point of not voting myself when without it you can't town read me in any game and all my points are going to get ignored

Tell you what, you vote your scum reads and stop talking about lynching yourself I'll town read you

WIFOM

[Alisae]

Tell you what, you vote your scum reads and stop talking about lynching yourself I'll town read you

Nah, You didn't even read the whole conversations till this point.

I actually really like this response.

[Alisae]

Huh...So this is just all one huge reaction test...

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65639

Look at how I got two tracker guilty in row in that game as a claimed macho tracker day 1 when they had a roleblocker?

Now reread my iso and tell me what you see.

Why did you post this again?

[Alisae]

{Me} <-- It's litterally Me Tier
{Frozen Angel, Grey, Screenplay, Garmr} <--- Not touching today
{RC, Anotora, Firebringer}
{Kentofan, mlooney} <--- Null
{Obvious Alt}
{Pep, Jin} <--- Lynch Pool

[Alisae]

Frozen how are your reads lookin.

[Alisae]

That top tier list is shit

Why?

[Alisae]

That top tier list is shit

Why?

Because it doesn't have me, duh

Any other disagreements?

And I guess I could say that I have a somewhat grasp of his playstyle.

[Alisae]

Never really saw his scum game,
His play seems to be consistant so far with his towngame.

[Alisae]

Whenever he has posted content I really liked it.
Like he's just town lurking. Dude has some good posts just started out badly with naked votes.

Frozen is screaming obvtown to me.

[Alisae]

Never really saw his scum game,
His play seems to be consistant so far with his towngame.

His style seems to be similar to someone I know and makes everything look naturally town.
Anything specific that pings you?

His aggressiveness and how well he tries to keep his focus on Pep (or any of his scumreads really).

[Alisae]

Also he's as Sassy as ever.

[Alisae]

This game is retarded.

[Alisae]

This game is retarded.

Mod the above isn't your fault btw. You're VCs are doing well.

[Alisae]

This game is retarded.

IKR

sorry If I'm not a fun person to be played with.

No it's not anything about playstyle.
In fact I actually enjoy playing with you.

[Alisae]

I am up to page 33, ill be done soon.

His reads are not based on play- their based on momentum and general view.

There is no general view that Frozen Angel is scum.

why misunderstanding and remembering events in a wrong order - when there was a reason for remembering them in wrong order (RC unvoted agian later which made me think anoto was L1 when pap asked for claim) is scummy?

But I dropped back to L2 waaayyy before Pep tried to make me claim. There should have been no confusion.

She's scum misrepresenting events. End of story.

Besides the rude, blatant question-ignoring, hand waving that Grey is doing time after time and the insistence that Pepperoni Ronin be pushed to a lynch, he goes and does the quoted above. He says FA isnt viewed as scum yet he calls her scum on the same page, like two posts later. This needs to die today

VOTE: Grey

Totally agree ^^

Totally not scumbuddies.

[Alisae]

Ill vote Pepito but i swear if he flips green then i will have to be carried out on my shield before i ever stop pushing the Grey wagon the rest of the game.

VOTE: Pepchoninga

In the event of a scum lynch, please look here, because this is probably a bus.

[Alisae]

Ill vote Pepito but i swear if he flips green then i will have to be carried out on my shield before i ever stop pushing the Grey wagon the rest of the game.

VOTE: Pepchoninga

In the event of a scum lynch, please look here, because this is probably a bus.

[Alisae]

Sooo, I'm at L-1. Mostly I'm irritated since I can't defend myself when there isn't anything to defend against exept blind votes just because Grey said to vote me.

I'm pretty sure if the positions were swapped you would say "Just read my posts."

[Alisae]

Sooo, I'm at L-1. Mostly I'm irritated since I can't defend myself when there isn't anything to defend against exept blind votes just because Grey said to vote me.

I'm pretty sure if the positions were swapped you would say "Just read my posts."

You might be true. But I would be confident that I have made a case or a post with somethings to back my punches when I say that. If not I will make a case. Whatever alignment I am I be
Ive that you should be able to say why you dislike someone and think they are scum and actually make good ooints or at least attempt to.

the bold is hilarious.
You're also a hypocrite.

[Alisae]

Town!Grey likes to powerwagon people.

[Alisae]

I am continually blown away at how Pepcho reads my refusal to claim as scummy.

I find it hypocritical at the same time considering the situation he is in.

[Alisae]

Pep at this point you might as well self-hammer and kill the convo if you're scum.

[Alisae]

I don't believe you are digging yourself out of this hole.

[Alisae]

the bolded is hilarious because most people automaticly assume they are town when they are talking about themselves.

[Alisae]

actually
UNVOTE:
Let's not having you kill the convo just yet.

[Alisae]

Frozen feel free to put your vote on him and tell me when I'm okay to Intent to hammer.

[Alisae]

Or don't. Honestly if we put our votes on at the same time it might be better.

[Alisae]

the bolded is hilarious because most people automaticly assume they are town when they are talking about themselves.

I've never done that. I think when you talk about yourself you should talk as a neutral not put yourself as a town. This is just a way for me to play the game.

Fine.

[Alisae]

And would prefer to be kept at an L-1

NAAAAAAAAAAH
I rather play it safe and hammer at the same time Frozen does.
Speaking about that
Frozen, I'm going to bed within the next half hour.
Tell me when your satisfied assuming you are satisfied by then.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Secret Agent Jin
My vote is going here on the meantime.

[Alisae]

I rather play it safe and hammer at the same time Frozen does.
Speaking about that
Frozen, I'm going to bed within the next half hour.

I really like to have the missing slot replaced before night start and to see what people say about the points I just mentioned about SAJ post before a lynch happens.

In that case I will gladly not hammer Pep until I see said replacement.

[Alisae]

Wait jin is kain tepas we are in for one bumpy ride.

I wish

[Alisae]

I don't think SAJ post #1058 (the Pepcho vote) is scummy for the same reasons that FA has stated, but it sure is opportunistic as hell.

The Keyen slot I scumread. SAJ is only confirming that scumread.

[Alisae]

Ok Ano don't be a bitch and read the whole thing.

Told you you are a dirty hypocrite.

[Alisae]

LOL FA towntold like a motherfucker.

[Alisae]

LOL FA towntold like a motherfucker.

What do you mean?

Adapt.

[Alisae]

Well he seemed irritated when he was at L-1 and nobody would really listen to him (I kinda can relate to that atm) and then suddenly Geey lynched me for reasons I still can't understand and all of a sudden Ano started being more calm like he was absolutely sure that he won't get lynched. He made some cocky remarks and this is something that is really suspicious to me.

Ok Ano don't be a bitch and read the whole thing. That is why I'm suspicious.[/quote]

I mean I guess that's an argument for me and -Grey- being a scumteam, if you had legit reasons to scumread me in the first place, before all this business.[/quote]The preiew button didn't die for this shit.

[Alisae]

FA that's the joke.

[Alisae]

I mean there's a strong possibility that SAJ only L-1'ed Pepcho in hopes of Pepcho getting hammered very soon, and the day ending very soon.

This is not just a possibility

He obviously voted to just end the day.

if its a buss or just a very anti-town approach is the question

Really it's hard to say wether he wanted to hammer me or lynch me faster or anything else. We don Have much from him.

Well, FA, since Pepcho is now defending SAJ's approach, I'm gonna go with bus rather than just anti-town.

[Alisae]

FA that's the joke.

Why do you even do jokes on mafia so regularly? To mock people?

You are going to have fun if you ever get into a game with the following players:
Grey
rb
Transcend
KainTepes

[Alisae]

Did I miss any on that list. If so, oh well, going to bed. gnite.

[Alisae]

You mean aliesa is planning to use pep probably green flip as a tool to hide Jin scumminess?

Why does town assume bus when they read Jin's post when Jin was obviously gearing up to vote the vocal player that pushed the d1 wagon on d2?

Here's a better question:
Why would I assume that someone who Screenplay has just about more content then that slot has is scummy?

[Alisae]

I know what hes saying FA.
Hey Grey, question.
Fun question. Grey, would you scumread this person for this post:
viewtopic.php?p=8550184#p8550184

If you wanna read context that's fine honestly.

[Alisae]

Really? He SR a person for one post.

[Alisae]

Well you are right he was a PR.

[Alisae]

Well you are right he was a PR.

Since you think Jin was bussing in his Pep vote, why a you voting Jin now?

Lie !!!!

VOTE: Secret Agent Jin
My vote is going here on the meantime.

#joking

I think he just missed it.

[Alisae]

Hmmm I want to go here for now:
VOTE: Obvious alt

Uuuu, strange vote, tho I am interested where did the guy go. He said he will come and catch up, yet he is nowhere to be found.

Oh no he hasn't posted for one day he must be lurking

Fixed quote tag :)
Jk, fixed it for real this time.
Okay, now I fixed it. Gosh.

[Alisae]

I need a cookie.

sure!

Can I have one too?

Fixed. :)

[Alisae]

hi guise

Heya, have fun reading 53 pages

Could be worse.

Fixed. :)

[Alisae]

Welcome PantherPunt

VOTE: alisea

Shit vote. Try again.

[Alisae]

Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.

[Alisae]

Okay Fire, just got home going to play TF2.

And what, it's dumb that you get towncred and that I read you as town.
Like, you've been contributing good shit when you have been contributing, I just wish you contribute more.

[Alisae]

Last time I checked RC has been giving you a townread as well but I don't remember if that read has changed or not.
And I don't want to force a townread down other people's throats.

[Alisae]

Okay Fire, just got home going to play TF2.

And what, it's dumb that you get towncred and that I read you as town.
Like, you've been contributing good shit when you have been contributing, I just wish you contribute more.

Ohhh fun. Haven't played that in months mostly been playing overwatch and my computer blew up a week ago

What's your favorite class?

Spy or Soldier. I usually go between the two.
I played a lot of comp so they're probably my stronger classes.

[Alisae]

Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.

Why
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially

Look at his ISO and tell me what you see.

[Alisae]

Spy or Soldier. I usually go between the two.
I played a lot of comp so they're probably my stronger classes.

And comp meaning like UGC if you know what that is, not matchmaking.
I'm a veteran when it comes to that game

[Alisae]

While i appreciate all the scum reads, i am not scum. I mean, you all know who i want lynched but someone who he is pushing hard needs to flip town then i can push. Im still trying to catch up with the 12 or some pages that have popped up while i was sleeping.

What's the rest of your reads friend?

Trust me, im trying to formulate reads this is like only the second time i have replaced in and its a bit ovwrwhelmng to me. I will gather them soon though. Obviously i SR Grey and i think that also comes with a Ano SR but im still looking at that slot. I like FA and you (FB) for town. Other than that, i am still gathering reads.

And you voted Pep...
This needs to die.

[Alisae]

I voted Pep so i could facilitate a Grey lynch the following day. You know, the end justifies the means. I dont like Grey and if Pep flips town then that looks bad on all the Pep pushing Grey did.

You should do some research on Grey.

[Alisae]

Panther if you're still reading, read and if you still want to know why I'm TRing Screenplay I'll lead you through my thought process.

[Alisae]

Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.

Why
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially

Look at his ISO and tell me what you see.

Don't redirect me.

I asked for the thought that went through your head after he voted you to say it solidified a townread on him

I'm redirecting you because it'll make it easier to explain but if you don't want me to lead you in my thought process fine.
Screenplay is a quieter Transcend.
He only comments on things when he has a valid point.

[Alisae]

Because whenever he has questioned someone, he was mostly pointing out bullshit.

[Alisae]

Like most of Screenplay's questions have been really good.

[Alisae]

Tho that vote Screenplay sorta soldifies my townread on you.

Why
You very clearly have a logical thought that you worked through to come to this. The way you posted sequentially

Look at his ISO and tell me what you see.

Don't redirect me.

I asked for the thought that went through your head after he voted you to say it solidified a townread on him

I'm redirecting you because it'll make it easier to explain but if you don't want me to lead you in my thought process fine.
Screenplay is a quieter Transcend.
He only comments on things when he has a valid point.

Do you feel my vote on you is a valid point?

Thats moreso comments on your play.
Votes aren't really a point, so they aren't
If anything your play and your vote is just a strong towntell.

[Alisae]

Lol you're cute.
How about this. Why don't you read the thread and build a case on me and then call me scum.
Because all I am saying is that he towntold with his vote.
He's been towntelling the whole game.

Garmr I'll get to you when I can.

[Alisae]

And now Panther, because you refused to look at his ISO so I could lead you through my train of thought, we might not get along.
Because believe it or not, I want to work with you. Immediately saying "Don't direct me, tell me" tells me "I don't want to work with you."
I don't see how that train of thought is coming from town you.

[Alisae]

I don't see how that train of thought is coming from town.

edited

[Alisae]

So until you make an actual push on me, you're going to be in my lynch pool which is currently
{Panther, Pep, Jin, Obvious Alt, mlooney, RC}
Gonna need some convincing on Obvious Alt, mlooney, and RC if anyone wants my vote on those tho.
Anyone outside of those people I'm not touching today.

[Alisae]

Actually nvm on the convincing for mlooney. I'll lynch that.

[Alisae]

And now Panther, because you refused to look at his ISO so I could lead you through my train of thought, we might not get along.
Because believe it or not, I want to work with you. Immediately saying "Don't direct me, tell me" tells me "I don't want to work with you."
I don't see how that train of thought is coming from town you.

You're assuming that both 1) Town aren't likely to be not wanting to work with you and that 2) Scum are.

Okay fine, maybe I am assuming that.
I just don't see why town would say "I don't want to bother trying to see what you are seeing, I want information."

Like Alisae if this were last year I would probably try to policy lynch you because I don't agree with any of your reads and you're getting on my nerves. I'm not surprised people wouldn't want to work with you.

Okay, what reads do not agree with?

[Alisae]

Mostly you saying that you'd be willing to lynch me. I'm really, really tired of being pushed on for no and/or terrible reasons.

That is tiring.
My reason for being okay with a lynch on you is that you wanted to end the day without a replacement.
But that's the only thing you really did, hence why I said I would need more convincing on it.
You're in the null category along with Obvious Alt.

[Alisae]

My answer would be anti-town.

[Alisae]

You can either trust me on this, scumread me for this, or move along.