Mini Normal 1866: Landmark Mafia! (Mafia Victory!)

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Plus Screen, me and Grey usually have the relationship of I TR him he SRs me.

So
What does that have to do with any thing

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Yes, D1 you followed grey around like a little puppy

Tbh I followed grey a little bit as well since his thoughts lined up with mine.

Who are you following around today?

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Plus Screen, me and Grey usually have the relationship of I TR him he SRs me.

So
What does that have to do with any thing

If I think he is most likely town I will sheep the fuck out of him and let him do all the work.

That is why you are not town. Town doesn't hide in the shadows and let someone else do all the work. You just told on yourself

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So you are saying you are not paying attention to this game that's why you sheep?

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Just right now or all game?

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Just right now or all game?

All game. Hence why before my #shittheorycase my posting was very limited.
I've mostly thought of this game as me being in a state of apathy.

You have the second most amount of post.

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Bored with this game. That's why he doesn't post and just sheeps

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Stupid sheep

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VOTE: pep


I still think
Pep Gama Alisea

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Kill Pep and gamma tomorrow

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What right idea?

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VOTE: Alisea

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VOTE: Alisea
L-1

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VOTE: Alise

That's hammer!!

Ok you can tell everyone your real role now.

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You are trying to hard to push a fast lynch before everyone gets a chance to get in here and talk.

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VOTE: Alisea

Come on, sheep me today! You haven't even paid attention to the game to know what's going on.
Follow me!!

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Screenplay Vote Gamma or Panther or tell me why they are town.

Be cause you want them lynched right now!!

Tell me why you are town!?

VOTE: Alisea

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VOTE: ALISEA

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Your misspelling his name lol

My phone says it's OK.

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Tell me why you are town!?

Why should I care about proving to you that I am town?

Don't answer a question with a question, it makes you look stupid.

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Saying the same shit over and over again doesn't work.
Saying why and using other tactics does.
If your current tactic isn't working, try a different one.

Like you vote hoping trying to appease?

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Please I'm not trying to appease, I'm trying to lynch scum. Hence why I'm hopping between Gamma and Panther.
If I wanted to appease I would care if people TR'd me or SR'd me.

You trying to lynch scum is not true. The only people you have lynched is town. The one scum that was lynched you didn't even vote for.
You have skated by in this game on other people's coat tails saying you are uninterested and not paying attention. So why now should you be the one opening the day with who our lynch options are.

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Hey Screenplay, you wanna know why you'll be brought to MYLO/LYLO?
Becuase you are hard SRing a townie.

Explain?

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So you say you want me in lylo because you think I will vote a town???

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Suicide so we won't be in that situation then.

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You still dodge questions and that doesn't make you town

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^ So

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You still haven't said why you are town. Trying to use your past experience to manipulate me isn't going to work. I'm playing this game. Talk to me about this game.

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No, scum will keep us both at Lylo because you will vote a townie (aka, me).

But you don't care to make me believe your town before we get there???

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Plus you've confbiased me this whole game so I'm not going to change your opinion.

In not the only person who suspected you. FA. Now she is dead. Night killed. An odd night kill at that.

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And again you don't answer any questions.

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Nope. If you want to confbias me and shoot first, ask questions later, go ahead.

That's not a positive attitude

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You have not done anything to help town. You derail conversations, sheep other people and lynch town.

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I'm asking for some facts but you don't give any

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I can't figure why you are not scum. I'm asking you what did I miss talk to me about. Tell me what you have done.
Your answer continues to be defiant. Why would you not want to work with town if your town?

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You keep deflecting


GN

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I'm not say anything about miller.
VOTE: Alisea

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Silly hats and then tic tac toe. Another conversation derailed.

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Can you explain more why Alisea is town to you?

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You could say Alisea is a bastard and doesn't belong in this game as well.

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That was unnecessarily harsh Srceenplay.

It wasn't meant to be personal.

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That's why the FA murder makes no sense. What reason could they have for that? It was a one shot role that was done?

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Alisea you were so close to lynching a scum this time.

Can anyone else add why they think Alisea is town. He doesn't want to help me. Can someone else whom me there perspective?

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That last bit was also WIFOMy as fuck tho about NKing him...With that said...Garmr said something about treating you as conf town...Hmm...FA wanted to sheep you as well...Hmm...Pep also confirmed you (could be lieing but I doubt it)...Hmm...
You won over a sheep.
VOTE: Firebringer
Sorry Growlithe.

This kind of tone?

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You ok voting Gamma while prodded?

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You ok voting Gamma while prodded?

What's this supposed to mean?

I thought it was common curtesy to the slot to wait for a response before lynching??

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What did it look like?

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I see it

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I am chilling until the slot gets filled.

So move on to the next lynch

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Welcome Elena fisher.

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What's your role first?

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Wait Fire was doing something...
Sorry Fire, you sniped me ;~;

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Wait Fire was doing something...
Sorry Fire, you sniped me ;~;

Hi Mister Conf Bias.

You make it hard to change my mind.

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He..

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Is scum

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He is trying to buss you.

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I find it really fucking difficult to believe that Mlmooney investigated me of all people.

I'm thinking it might be time to lynch that slot.

If Alisea flips town I'll vote Mandy but my money is still on Alisea. I have confbias

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Sheeps and derails conversation

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I hope it isn't a blind date setup because it's not going to work.

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Screen Alisae RC

Care to take a guess?

I don't know what you are trying to do.

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Wait a minute....
How was mlmooney supposed to get an investigation off?
Did the rb just not block them?
That doesn't make sense to me.

Because your partner was gone and you can only take one action.

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Wait a minute....
How was mlmooney supposed to get an investigation off?
Did the rb just not block them?
That doesn't make sense to me.

Because your partner was gone and you can only take one action.

Scum!me rb's mlmooney instead of NKs because that's the better play.

In hindsight

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Blind date. I knew it

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VOTE: Mlmooney

That makes literally no sense and their claimed invest makes literally no sense and the amount of claimed investigative power in this setup is absolutely nuts.

If I could have I would have invest you.

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I already know about you remember.

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Don't get mad because I got you.

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If you had an ability like that why not use in on gamma?

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I pref to not be shot if you have that power.

Lol of course

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He's considered obv scum to me at this point so using it on you and you die would win us the game if we lynched Gamma.

But it still is the wrong play. If you use it a confirm scum you confirm yourself as town without the risk of town losing a player.

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And if you don't you put town in a losing situation

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I don't see any reason to scumread him. You are voting so you obviously do. Why is he scum?

Have my case

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Your case was based on five posts. Five. Posts.

Lol. This basically what I said about Alisea

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I don't see any reason to scumread him. You are voting so you obviously do. Why is he scum?

Have my case

I think I established that I really don't like Screenplay. All of their posts are mostly votes. None of them really have reasoning behind them.
I think it's moreso oppertunistic play coming from them.
Also they've done nothing to progress the game.
And they're basicly sheep.
VOTE: Screenplay

Your case was based on five posts. Five. Posts.

Lol. This basically what I said about Alisea

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Stupid double post

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Bump

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Come on. Time to make some easy choices.

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VOTE: Elena

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UNVOTE:

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Don't want the conversation to top yet

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Can you give me one more day to read day 3 or is that a no

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I'm still taking what FA said about setup into account. That's where my mindset still is.

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VOTE: Alisae

Clearly going from wanting more time to give more information to now giving out quick votes to try to distance and discredit.

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yeah garmr is screeming town, and I was roleblocked so RC is town. You are the town you were d1 so

pep: ?!! / anotora:vt / aliese : vt / screenplay : ? / gamma:assicetic / ML : ?

pep/anotoro /gamma and aliese as a reserve <-

I like to flip in ano and gamma so we get the roleblocker which will confirms me as town - more indicated to do see gamma flip

pedit : IF I was scum with a strongman!pep , Pep wouldn't do the kill on grey when no healer would heal him bacause of my claim.

ascietic is counter point of me. It makes no sense with miller

It is perfect as a godfather for weak cop and it will deflect the alignment cop.

= ascetic is scum

I get that reasoning, but have you considered there could be two ascetics on both alignments to further neuter the insane investigative potential that town has?

2 ascietics , 1 miller , 1 role stopper, 1 cop , 1 weak vanilla cop , 1 watcher = 7 tpr + 1 already flipped vt = 8 town

your saying town started this with 3 vanillas?

So you are reading town off role claims, what makes sense to you in a setup?

They make total sense together with the restrictions they have. (and mandy because they were concerned about grey claim day 1 in an obvious manner)

thats why scum has ascietic and the protective role (me) makes my target ascietic and there is a miller

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What did panther claim?

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The right lynch now would be to lynch the gamma slot. That would tell us if we were going the right direction or if we nes to look else where.

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Why even take anything Pep said into account?

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Gamma/Alisea
Alisea/Firebringer
Mandy/RC

These are my scum reads

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Why?

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Alisea then

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FA was begging to see that possibility

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Grey noticed it as well early

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I would say Mandy/RC
But that leaves Fire and Gamma slot. Do both them go together as town? So that would void the Mandy/Rc and leave a Mandy/Fire

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What is panther role?

Like I said if you can't have fire and gamma together then it can't be Mandy/RC

The only way it would be possible for RC to be scum is with a Mandy team. She cleared him. If Mandy is not scum RC is not scum.

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What the heck happened I was at L-1 and then all the pressure on me somehow went away I don't mind but it's strange I don't think this is because everyone is being kind enough to let me re read day 3

That is what it is unless you want to throw in the towel?

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Are you done reading?

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Do you think it is a probable setup with a town miller and ascetic?

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What reason is there to clear the Gama slot?

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What is QFT?

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VOTE: Elena

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Except...

What about Alisae/Elena?

So

Mafia Encryptor / Mafia Roleblocker / Mafia Ascetic vs Weak Vanilla Cop / Non-Consecutive Watcher / Odd-Night Cop / Miller / 1-Shot Rolestopper

And somehow in all that insanity they forgot to roleblock the cop.

Didn't really forget. If gamma is scum and he has been afk there was only one scum available to make a one night action

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Then that leaves Elena RC Mandy

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If you are invest do we need a Mandy invest? That is ballzy for scum to claim pr do early?

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Fast audit

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Alright audit is done.

2. PantherPunt- Getting pushed to talk which makes me wonder if he walked into a scum role. But him personally I don’t see as scum. Leaning more town but on the fence.
3. Srceenplay- suspected him at first but kinda thinking I might have been wrong. On the fence here.
5. Elena Fisher- Waiting for more of a read but my vote will go here if I don’t see anything convincing.
6. Alisae- The whole fake hammer thing makes me doubt he is scum but I would vote him after dealing with Elena and FB.
9. RadiantCowbells Town
12. Firebringer- Willing to lynch on miller status has nothing to do with FB himself. I don’t know where I would lean on him without that claim.

Elena
FB
Alisae
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RC

It sounds as if you are saying you are reading everyone nullish but RC. Am I wrong.

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Elena most of forgot about us.

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Looking at the setup, how many invest roles are normally possible in games here?

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Garmr panther mandy grey
That's four invests. Is that out of the norm for a game here?

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My gut is still telling me Elena/Alisea

If we go with to many invest thought

Mandy/Fire

Panther/?

Panther was one of the only people who tried to argue with me to lynch Pep.

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I pref to not be shot if you have that power.

this post is hilarious by the way

it's an accidental scum claim

just went to look at iso to see if she was in any way trying to solve

For this reason I would like to lynch this spot

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Fire RC and Alisea have been on all the ML

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I'm still considering the motion detector claim.

It's only added to my motivation to powerwagon Mandy.

Why believe that over Mandy?
It's a risky move to claim or that early when your scum partner just got caught.

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Fire has Alisea at L-1 right now.

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Possible
I would assume either you or Fire is lying. Both wouldn't be town right?

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I wanting for people to talk it out.

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Fire if she is town you will have been on three ML. Would that be a coincidence?

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I'm almost ready to vote fire more.

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I investigated Garmr N1 he was what he flipped to be.
N2 no ability.
N3 investigated RC. He is town.

I can't investigate tonight so I'm useless again.

Vague

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I wondering if she's going to respond?

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Is he?

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A Mafia Goon or a Serial Killer with no other abilities should give the same result as a Vanilla Townie.

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Being wrong makes you scum?

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Being wrong makes you scum?

no, but if you were role cop would you not check miller claim night 1?
it makes no sense, especially with "I don't trust miller claims" ~Mlooney

Ok.

But it's still not a slip, bad play.
We should listen to what she says first.

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I was reading back trying to find were she claimed. All I could find was just cop.

Also at the beginning of the day I noticed Alisea pushing RC hard.

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Almost like it was the planned move when grey died.


Thought I would throw my confirm bias out there.

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Was she right about your role?

I thought that was checked that you can have two cops?

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Being wrong makes you scum?

no, but if you were role cop would you not check miller claim night 1?
it makes no sense, especially with "I don't trust miller claims" ~Mlooney

Ok.

But it's still not a slip, bad play.
We should listen to what she says first.

It is a slip. She's claimed different things.

can you quote the claims?

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Just because you are the same every game doesn't mean I have to be.

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VOTE: Alisea

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I have never claimed

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No

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The thing is I see it as fire/elana as one and panther/Mandy as the other. So it's odd to me that you both are ready and ok to lynch this spot right now.

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VOTE: elena

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Nice

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So who didn't vote to end the night early??

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That was a close game. It's over now and you lost it. Might as well just vote yourself. We could have done this two days ago if you skipped the night.

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Mandy sick or something?

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Anything to say for yourself Fire?

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I already have made up my mind yesterday who I was voting. It's harder when I actually have to do it.

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They're dead

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VOTE: Mandy

Like I said I already made up my mind before. If it was between panther and Mandy I would think about it more. Can't drag it on though. Hope I'm right.

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Figures.

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Hints were there but I ignored them.

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I hammered. I will take it

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He shouldn't have been allowed to get this far into the game. We all agreed it in the beginning. Everyone who knew him continued to let him live. It's kinda hard to policy lynch this late in the game.

Mandy your not checking miller claim when you could was a tipping point for me. That's what made my decision.

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I'm not blaming you I'm just saying that is what made my decision.

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Again sorry town. I saw the hints but thought I was over thinking it. Mandy's claim and NA looked suspicious.


Question, with fire claiming miller why didn't we policy lynch him instead of anotora? If no one was going to lynch Pep should that have been the action?

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I will also add it is disheartening to hear people calling some one stupid or idiot for there actions. It is possible to drive people away from the community never getting the opportunity to get better.

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Another question where do you sign up to make a hydra? I want to make one with my son

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+1 ^