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[Vifam]

What does everyone else think though? Aside from AC and Math

[Kmd4390]

What does everyone else think though? Aside from AC and Math

Still obvtown to me.

[Vifam]

You think McMenno is obv town?

[Vifam]

Do you guys see something I don't see lmao

[McMenno]

man I could totally see luv/pepchoniga being a thing

VOTE: luv

[Vifam]

Uzi do you still think AC is scum?

[Kmd4390]

You think McMenno is obv town?

Thought you meant pep. I'm townreading mcmenno but nowhere near as strongly as with pep.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Uzi do you still think AC is scum?

Don't care anymore really.

AC/Colombo/Mal/McMemmo

[MathBlade]

So let's start from what we know:

Vifam is confirmed town unless 5 scum in 13 which is shit.
AC is likely town because of PR results on Nero claimed. If he doesn't get killed before LyLO then reexamine here.

Since there were 4 scum there then 3 or 4 scum makes sense.

[MathBlade]

Pepochinga (1/5) - MathBlade
MathBlade (1/5) - Pepchoninga
Luv - AC,McMenno
Not Voting: Ms. Columbo, Kmd4390, Lil Uzi Vert, Malpascp

With 3 or 4 scum if LUV was Town scum would just win the game unless AC and McMenno are scum together.

Since scum did not dogpile on Pepochinga this means either Pepochinga is scum or there are three scum.

[MathBlade]

Well it could also be three scum and one of AC /McMenno differing alignments and not the other.

[Vifam]

No they're probably just two scum left

[Vifam]

Lets lynch McMenno today

If McMenno flips town look into Malp/Uzi/Pep/Colombo

[MathBlade]

Either way there is some severe questions that need answered:

Why was Tywinn killed over an exposed PR soft?
Why was I left alive when no one except Pep scumreads me?

The twyinn move is rather odd.

It actually makes me think AC is scum.

VOTE: Almost Chara

That move of Tywinn caused LyLO over there and with how messed up three Town vigs is I think you traded for that reason. You didn't give Titus or Grey because you knew they were scum and it was all for show.

Dodge I owe you an apology.

[MathBlade]

Lets lynch McMenno today

If McMenno flips town look into Malp/Uzi/Pep/Colombo

I don't see a good McMenno scum case.

[Vifam]

I think KMD is town, at the very least Pep/KMD aren't scum together I think

[MathBlade]

Furthermore AC asked if I could work with Titus if they traded me.

If AC knew Nero was going over like he seemed to imply that meant he had to take a Town away else it wouldn't be LyLO and then people would flip on Titus. So Tywinn had to be the kill in case masons weren't lynched we would have no info to work with.

Bravo. Bravo AC.

[MathBlade]

I think KMD is town, at the very least Pep/KMD aren't scum together I think

I think I am getting there actually. Trying to figure out who is scum with AC. But I still think at least 3 scum.

[Vifam]

That's a cool theory

[MathBlade]

That's a cool theory

Cool is irrelevant. Do you agree?

[McMenno]

man I just feel like

if ac was scum, why didn't they keep leonshade here

[MathBlade]

@Leon:

I HATE YOU for making me do this. You should know (and most of those who played more than one game with me do know) one of my weakest aspects of the game is trying to make cases, whether these are scum or town cases. I'll do my best though.

Nero came out of the gate blazing. He did not even use his site-meta earned right to RVS, but rather expressed a scum read on KMD and voted there. Furthermore, he didn't hesitate in voicing out hi opinion on SD (sum reading Maria) when it was still debatable whether scum hunting in SD was considered scummy or not.

In other words, Nero makes no reservations and is paying little if any attention how anyone could try to angle-shoot his play. This -to me- is genuine aggressive scum hunting, which makes him Town in my eyes.

As for you, your #31 contained 3 lines: 1: Sarcasm. NAI, 2: defending McMenno. Minor Town credit, 3: Town reading Narna. More Town cred.

Your #71 looks more detailed in why you defended McMenno, and has a true statement in that scum will likely push on a joke as they tend to try to find "something" to start their attack on Town. So, not only did you not join the push, you defended McMenno with reason and logic.

Still, I've put you as my 4th on the list, so if it comes down to you vs Narna, Nero or McMenno I'd be lynching you over any of them. However, I don't wan you gone over anyone else apart from those 3, and we only have one lynch, so I'm trying to narrow down my options for the day.

@Narna:

Unfortunately we canNOT draft KT over here no matter what he says he is. First; until he DOES start producing results there's nothing confirmed about his role to begin with. Second; his play is annoying I'd rather be lynched myself over bringing him to play in my own brand, let alone by my own choice. Third; it's not just me. There are several players who feel uncomfortable with KT's play, and it's not going to be any smoother if we had him here. The noise he produces could very much cloud the air to the point we can't see scum mooning us and brushing their behinds to our faces. Why would I want to poison the air in my brand's thread?

In short, we have several other choices that are all better than KT to bring over here. Titus (if not the one massive picks to be undraftable) is a great choice. Tywin (Obv!Town in my book) is a good choice too. Grey (whom you seem to have reservations over) I have a Town lean on for both his play of late AND Titus being confident of his alignment (Titus can tunnel town thinking they might be scum, but rarely ever gets stubborn over a town read if she's not fairly confident in it). Maria is my own Town read, but I might not draft her for fear she might work as a distraction to Nero. Vifam is another alternative I might consider since both our slot (myself and Chara) and Nero Cain are leaning Town on him.

So, FIVE alternatives to pick from there with 2 that I don't think anyone could argue against.

Suffice it to say, our choices are:

- Titus: Top choice if she is draftable.
- Tywin: No problem here, but Titus wants him there
- Maria: My personal preferred 3rd choice, but Nero doesn't like her
- Grey: Looks like a decent pick, but you (my top Town read) seem to have reservations
- Vifam: May be the best compromise draft if Titus isn't on the table considering they don't like him much there as we do here

P.S. Your feedback is VERY appreciated. I won't try to run this brand as a dictator unless I'm forced to. Both myself and Chara agree that we can properly play our role w/o being total jerks about it.

P-edit:

I may have misunderstood, but if by "double-lynch" you mean using a finisher AND having a normal lynch, I believe Vince said somewhere that someone tapping out WILL end the day. Apologies in advance if I did misunderstand.

~A50

Mainly here. If A50 was town he'd just say he'd never make a case or rage at me in bold letters whenever I don't do what he wants. Here with Leonshade it's a different approach. No one makes A50 do anything.

That post is just disgusting.

I think another reason Leonshade wasn't kept around was that he wasn't obv town. The townread at this point by AC was completely unjustified.

[KuroiXHF]

Jso4ry guys. I'll try to do a vc tomorrow

[Almost50]

AC is likely town because of PR results on Nero claimed. If he doesn't get killed before LyLO then reexamine here.

Did you read my posts? I explicitly explained it was NOT an investigative PR claim, but rather a reference to Nero's neighbourizing ability with which he targeted us on N1. WE ARE NOT AN INVESTIGATIVE PR.

[Almost Chara]

AC is likely town because of PR results on Nero claimed. If he doesn't get killed before LyLO then reexamine here.

Did you read my posts? I explicitly explained it was NOT an investigative PR claim, but rather a reference to Nero's neighbourizing ability with which he targeted us on N1. WE ARE NOT AN INVESTIGATIVE PR.