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Post Post #25 (isolation #0) » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:08 am

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Ego post so I can watch Mastinas game
<<< I would prefer people not currently in the game to not post in the game, considering that if everyone not in the game who wanted to be in the game did so, we might have two or three pages worth of ego posting. :P >>>
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Post Post #235 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:18 pm

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Post Post #236 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:21 pm

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In post 25, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Ego post so I can watch Mastinas game
<<< I would prefer people not currently in the game to not post in the game, considering that if everyone not in the game who wanted to be in the game did so, we might have two or three pages worth of ego posting. :P >>>
@Mod, LOLZ

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Oh wait. That's what you're doing now. >>>
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Post Post #238 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:26 pm

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In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote: This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly.
What.
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Post Post #240 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:28 pm

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In post 80, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 70, shannon wrote:
In post 55, Alisae wrote:
In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.

vote: Alisae
for reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;

@Alisae what are the reasons?
In post 72, shannon wrote:Ugh sorry, that was a typing fail.

@PranaDevil - - reasons??
This is actually Scummy I think. There use to be a tell out there that Scum misspell stuff or don't say stuff correctly. I also find it Scummy that they are asking for reasons. Should be clear it is RVS and I don't buy that its an attempt to push the game forward so either they are not very good Town or obvious Scum.

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Okay hold up. You're saying that asking for reasons, which equate to explanations, that equate to further analyzing of said reasons, don't promote the game forward?
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Post Post #241 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:35 pm

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In post 105, Alisae wrote:
<<< I'm one of the three queens of VCA, so when I mod games, I give every possible variable that players would be interested in tracking during VCs. Hella lots of work, but worth it. <3 >>>
In post 106, Alisae wrote:wtf did I just write.

There will be a king.

<<< Something something "the mod is an awesome woman" something. So, just the usual. >>>
Damn straight.

<<< Since that "there will be a king" quote wasn't part of Alisae's original post, I'm assuming there's a potentially botched quote response here, but I can't fix it because I'm not absolutely sure. >>>
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Post Post #242 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:39 pm

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In post 124, XnadrojX wrote:Allow me to destroy another post.

In post 104, karnos wrote:Seems like you tried to guess the reasoning, and then assumed I had none afterward. Weird.

If LQ is scum, you are the partner jumping to derail the lynch.

I wasn't scum reading him based on his logic, it was his defensiveness and over-explaining himself that pinged me.

Also, isn't an opportunistic vote usually characterized as jumping on a growing wagon?
1. It's not weird, it's what Town does when they see a naked vote.
2. That's a trash argument, that's essentially saying he's scum for questioning you.
3. Not looking like that the way you voted
4. An opportunistic vote is when you see the opportunity to vote someone with little possible repurcussions, in this case, LQ was likely going to be wagoned and leading the wagon in advance like this has little implications on you tomorrow.

PEdit: I told him to go back to a newbie after he said this is a newbie game for questioning his analysis. I got pissed and telling him to go to a newbie is my way of telling him that he shouldn't tell people they suck when he's the one sucking.
I responded to LQ's points because they were absolute bullshit and you can't expect a straightminded person to just sit around and let such an obviously bullshit argument fly by without being questioned.

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Post Post #243 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:40 pm

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In post 241, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 105, Alisae wrote:
<<< I'm one of the three queens of VCA, so when I mod games, I give every possible variable that players would be interested in tracking during VCs. Hella lots of work, but worth it. <3 >>>
In post 106, Alisae wrote:wtf did I just write.

There will be a king.

<<< Something something "the mod is an awesome woman" something. So, just the usual. >>>
Damn straight.

<<< Since that "there will be a king" quote wasn't part of Alisae's original post, I'm assuming there's a potentially botched quote response here, but I can't fix it because I'm not absolutely sure. >>>
Fuck I botched it.

Yeah I was going to be all like "King me"

<<< As you wish. >>>
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Post Post #244 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:48 pm

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In post 165, shannon wrote: But XJordan's response in took it way too far. His counter to Lickety looked way OTT, not to mention opportunistic.

Gut feel is that Jordan was afraid of looking opportunistic for voting Lickety.
Is he opportunistic or not?
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Post Post #245 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:54 pm

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In post 188, karnos wrote:Not much else to directly respond to. I get the sense that there is a clique of players here who all know each other pretty well, which usually means I get miss-lynched. My style always seems to come across as scummy when playing with people I haven't played with before.

That said:

UNVOTE: LicketyQuickety

Probably not scum based on what has occurred in the thread.

VOTE: XnadrojX

Best bet for today. Might just be annoying town, but he is using a lot of shitty scum logic.

Mostly away today hosting a D&D game, so I don't expect to be around again until late or tomorrow.
One does not simply say someone is using shitty logic and doesn't explain how.
Might I say, does not simply get voted by one player and vote the accuser.
Good posting would have been you explaining the err's in his ways.
Unforunately, you decided to do fuck all.
So, I am willing to lend my vote.

I put a little easter egg in there for you to munch on.

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Post Post #246 (isolation #10) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:59 pm

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Yeah no, BBT and Pep, you need to start doing the thing where you vote. Don't be like America and not fucking vote.

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Post Post #247 (isolation #11) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:04 pm

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One not so serious post before serious post.

Does the winning team get cookies?

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Post Post #248 (isolation #12) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:09 pm

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Bad
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Lickety

Kinda Bad
BBT and Pep (VOTE)
KTthecreeper

Meh's
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Decents
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Post Post #252 (isolation #13) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:19 pm

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The day you have a content to fluff ratio of about 1:1, that is the day I am no longer an atheist because there must be a god(dess for Mastina)
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Post Post #255 (isolation #14) » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:22 pm

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If I thunk it, you should think it.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:06 am

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So Shannon, you're saying that, from your point of view, Jordan's play was like throwing a punch at LQ but holding back so he doesn't get the blame for it?
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Post Post #264 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:10 am

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In post 258, Pepchoninga wrote:Second - the next person who says I'm bad for not voting is getting a lol.
If you don't vote I'm calling you Pepe le Pew for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #17) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:07 am

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LQ, why should I like you?
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Post Post #271 (isolation #18) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:18 am

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In post 269, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 267, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:LQ, why should I like you?
Why should you like me? IDK.

I understand full well I don't play like most people (its even in my sig).

I just ask you reserve judgement until you see what my weird way of playing leads to. I am actually not bad at this game. I just play differently and because of this it gets me Scum read sometimes.
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Post Post #274 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:37 am

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No time to read it as I'm leaving for lunch(grandma's birthday) but realize I joined in the game at like 2 or 3 in the morning. I caught up but if I missed something, don't be surprised, just correct me.

Also blame Mastina for just sending me a role PM instead of asking me to replace ;)
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Post Post #280 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:12 pm

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before I read, wow. That's quite the wall. Let's not keep that trend :p
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Post Post #282 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:24 pm

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What was my slot saying that was so bad? lol

"ISO myself" sounds weird

Also not an attempt to buddy but even tho it was a wall post, twas good posting by you.
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Post Post #283 (isolation #22) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:30 pm

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Yo Prana, I know you're voting LQ, good vote but you should come join me on the pressure wagon on Pepe le Pew

VOTE: Pep
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Post Post #286 (isolation #23) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:38 pm

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Back to putting my vote to somewhere useful then

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Post Post #288 (isolation #24) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:40 pm

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Alisae, do that thing where you say why someone might be scum, if not join my karnos wagon
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Post Post #293 (isolation #25) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:46 pm

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everyone might be scum, that's how it works?

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Post Post #297 (isolation #26) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:52 pm

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I just really don't get where you're coming from with someone using the word "might." I mean no offense but it's silly so I don't know how to take it seriously.


The point of the Desperado?

P-Edit: oh lord VCA is neigh useful until later on with flips. In order to do VCA without flips, you set yourself up with confbias. Basically, you fit the evidence to work with your narrative instead of using the evidence to build the narrative. Sets you up for failure.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #27) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:00 pm

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My town game changed immensely actually. Ever since something embarrassing happened, I PM'd Mastina in how to become a better player and I read literally all of her theory work and any articles she recommended. I spent about a good 5 hours just reading and studying. Now I've improved myself about 10 fold :)

I'm not saying you can't scum read me but I'm saying you should start off with a clean palate when reading me as using previous meta on me will lead you to confusion.

P-Edit: Yeah, I can't really defend a post that wasn't written by me. So there's that.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #28) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:42 pm

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I bet if you ask the mod of this game, she won't have a problem boasting- I mean helping you ;)
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Post Post #306 (isolation #29) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:46 pm

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Post Post #310 (isolation #30) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:05 pm

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Is Pep not worthy of a vote Alisae?
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Post Post #315 (isolation #31) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:22 pm

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Okay first off. HOLY SHIT MASTINA WHY 3 FUCKING WEEKS :lol:

<<< Well, one: I give you three weeks. You don't have to use all of them. That's YOUR fault if you do, not mine. :P
Two: you answer the question yourself below; I want towns to have that option.
Three: easier to have the time and not use it than not have the time and wish you did.
Four: laziness. Aside from lacking plurality lynching, this is my Large Theme ruleslist; I did not bother to reduce the times for the smaller game size. >>>


Secondly, we have 3 weeks. We can do what the fuck we want for the first week mainly to produce content. By starting a wagon on Pep that would pressure him to actually produce content.

Also tried to start the wagon but I was only really talking to Prana and it stopped before it started so I stuck the vote back on my main concern.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #32) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:22 pm

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This, I did not know that. Still miffed about it.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #33) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:59 pm

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Who are the people Jordan is referring too? It's hard to understand what you're saying. Just tell me a narrative and include the post number.

Like I don't know the context of the posts. So tell me Jordan said that "Player X" is townie for doing "action X" but I see a contradiction that Jordan says "Player Y" is scummy for doing "action Y"

If you could explain it to me in that form it would be very much appreciated because I'm having a hard time following what you want me to see.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #34) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:23 pm

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I know who xnadrojx jordan is lmao I'm asking for the context in who Jordan was talking to or about in the quotes Karnos posted.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #35) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:36 pm

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I believe, if my memory is good, post 281 or 271 I said I liked your diction.

For now I am reserving judgement as per your request.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #36) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:50 pm

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In post 337, Lexa wrote:I'll likely wall post later in the week
Noooo.

Be concise or your points are drowned in your own words
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Post Post #342 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:00 pm

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Oh my god I'm in love with Mastina and her Vote Count Godsend.

<<< <3 >>>


Karnos was the first to vote LQ, just check the spoiler for people who have been voted on.

Opportunistic voting is usually found in the butter zone of wagons which is in the middle, usually votes 3-5. To say the first vote on any player is opportunistic is seriously misusing the common terminology because it sounds nice.
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Post Post #346 (isolation #38) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:04 pm

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@Lexa,
I prefer players to do real time interactions over wall catch up posts because real time is a lot harder to fake reads on players. So when you want to talk about something, make an opening statement, let someone talk to you and discuss it; like right now let's do it.

Who in the game is giving you the bad vibes?
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Post Post #347 (isolation #39) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:10 pm

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@LQ, I will leave a comment that your play intrigues me but I do not yet no how I feel about it.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #40) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:30 pm

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In post 348, Lexa wrote: Obviously All Alone isn't rubbing me the right way. You are actually giving me odd vibes, on the surface you seem extremely towny but I'm catching hints of asking a lot of questions and pushing activity without especially contributing new information yourself which is an effective strategy where I play.
What you say is true, I haven't really done hard pushes but that's mainly because I've been trying to sort out the Karnos/LQ/Jordan debates; I think it's evident in the posting that I'm making sure I understand every players arguments before I make my conclusion and move on.

Yes, it can be seen as scummy to just ask for clarification and not actively push but the main issue I'm trying to resolve is that the Karnos/LQ/Jordan debates feel like they are causing chaos or dissonance and I want to establish order and clarity to either resolve the issue or find that we have our lynch of the day. With that being said, I think my actions so far are justified given how the current gamestate feels.


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<<< Have YOU tried to type out a votecount with a purring, kneading, suckling kitten rubbing against your skin?!? It's not as easy as you'd think! >>>
Yes I have, t'is very easy

<<< Okay, then answer me this: how do
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Post Post #356 (isolation #42) » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:10 pm

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Don't worry about my content just yet. I'll become verbose the later the day goes on. I'm an unfortunately in a perpetual snowball effect loop no matter how much I try to not spam/push a lynch. So far I'm happy with my balance. As for now I'm going to sleep and will attempt sorting things out tomorrow or Tuesday depending on my day.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #43) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:19 am

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LQ, what are you doing this upcoming weekend?
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Post Post #386 (isolation #44) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:22 am

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It's a date.

As soon as you said town hunt I felt a town jam urge.

So. That is what we shall do.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #45) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:24 am

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You ever done a town jam before?
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Post Post #389 (isolation #46) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:30 am

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Exciting.

Basically, you let the game naturally develop in it's own course and then with the 3-4 strongest town reads and you just go ham seriously dedicating some time to just rip the playerlist to shreds.

You form a townbloc and then you town hunt. If you make the townbloc stronger in the process, you progress the game forward to winning by a huge factor :)
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Post Post #391 (isolation #47) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:40 am

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Post formatting is not alignment indicative. I'm sorry but it's silly.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #48) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:04 am

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You're judging a book in the means if it's a hardback or a softback cover. You need to actually analyze the reading inside the book. The rest doesn't matter.

Now, what you might be getting at is a person naked voting as scum and then voting with reasoning attached to the same post as town. If that's it, then I understand that.

However if you're saying it's alignment indicative in a person in how they format posts, ya know basically the aesthetic part of making a post, then I'm just going to say it's silly.
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Post Post #396 (isolation #49) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:32 am

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If after post game this ends up working, I'll consider looking more into your theory work. I am of the opinion that if anyone has any literary talent, they can easily fake emotions. I personally hold more weight to a persons argument and how they present it over emotions. I'm more of the objective over the subjective reader if you catch my drift.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #50) » Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:40 pm

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In post 420, LicketyQuickety wrote:Its never good when you Scum read half the active players.

This is going to be a long 3 weeks.
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Post Post #430 (isolation #51) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:28 am

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Wait for the replacement, frivolous efforts to wagon a dead slot
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Post Post #472 (isolation #52) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:33 am

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I'll be catching up in about 5 minutes but jesus guys it starts with a "G'

<<< No, it starts with a J.

...If you want it to start with a 'G', then you have to say "Guys jesus", not "jesus guys". >>>
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Post Post #474 (isolation #53) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:35 am

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ThinkBig are you town?
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Post Post #479 (isolation #54) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:44 am

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In post 477, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 474, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:ThinkBig are you town?
No, I am scum.

Oops game solved. Ez game is ez

/sarcasm
In post 478, ThinkBig wrote:But yes, I am town.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #55) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:45 am

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^^This is saying I'm interested in your theory work and want to learn it :p
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Post Post #481 (isolation #56) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:49 am

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In post 445, mastina wrote:
<<< KTthecreeper has requested replacement. Searching now. >>>
The asshole in me wants to put this slot at L-2 and scare the piss out of the replacement
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Post Post #483 (isolation #57) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:53 am

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Oh shit you replaced Creeper haha
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Post Post #490 (isolation #58) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:07 pm

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I was content with the sarcasm until he said he's town.

To quote manipulate what he just said, He made a joke and he made it serious at the end.

TB, I'm just saying Hi, I dont want to burn you on the stake just yet
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Post Post #495 (isolation #59) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:10 pm

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ew no page top, rookie Vote Counts ;)

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Post Post #506 (isolation #60) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:20 pm

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In post 505, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 499, ThinkBig wrote:VOTE: LQ

For attempting to make something out of nothing. I'll give my full analysis when I get home. I'm leaving my vote here for now.
Bro, making something out of nothing is my steak and potatoes of my Town game.
To add to this I literally asked LQ to analyze what you said, quit being miffed about it.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #61) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:21 pm

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Alisae, how do you have Jordan and Karnos both scum leaning? If I correctly gauge how the game is going, you either think Karnos is the scum or Jordan is the scum, so how come both?
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Post Post #512 (isolation #62) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:31 pm

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Karnos is null, thought you had 6 lines but why do you dislike both?
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Post Post #516 (isolation #63) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:52 pm

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Ew
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Just because you admit to saying you're OMGUSing doesn't mean you alleviate the scumminess off of the post
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Post Post #520 (isolation #65) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:59 pm

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Interesting that we have an LQ Karnos and AA mexican standoff

<<< Actually, in a mexican standoff, I usually have a connotation of all three sides being loosely equal.
karnos and LicketyQuickety as of this post were at L-3, but All Alone was only at L-4, having only 3 votes rather than their four. >>>
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Post Post #530 (isolation #66) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:18 pm

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In post 529, Alisae wrote:No I'm saying it would definitely be the same because that's just who I am.
I'm not basing further reads off of this because it is now known what I like but does anyone else feel like discrediting one's self is townie?
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Post Post #534 (isolation #67) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:23 pm

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What I'm getting at is that you're saying your tone has stayed consistent throughout your entire time playing leading me to believe you've never stepped in scum shoes as you would immediately know the difference.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #68) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:24 pm

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Still not liking how I can't think of who Pep likes or dislikes
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Post Post #538 (isolation #69) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:03 pm

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Talk.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #70) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:20 pm

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If Jordan stops producing content my read instantly flips that Jordan toyed with Karnos a bit to get heat off of him and decided to become complacent that he is no longer the center of attention.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #71) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:38 pm

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In post 545, ThinkBig wrote:All Alone is at L-1. Please be careful.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #72) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:43 pm

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WHY DO I CONTAIN THE URGE TO SAY FUCK IT.

Well besides the part where I'm in a bad mood but ya know
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Post Post #554 (isolation #73) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:48 pm

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Mastina Vote Count please. It's time to town hunt.

<<< I already informed you that I was away at Tae Kwon Do. I started preparations at 3, left at 4, and returned home at 8. mafiascum is the first thing I got around to, but it still takes time to parse posts and make sure I don't miss any critical changes. >>>
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Post Post #555 (isolation #74) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:54 pm

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I'll be waiting Mastina
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Post Post #557 (isolation #75) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:56 pm

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If you're shit at it, yes.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #76) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:58 pm

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Votes are very important for a reason. With 13 players, we can suspect there to be 3 scums as the standard amount in play. This means that every time a wagon reaches 4 votes, you are promised a townie in the wagon. You play find the townie
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Post Post #559 (isolation #77) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:01 pm

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Shit, I'm on the only 4 vote wagon..

<<< Actually, at the time of this post, the wagon you are on (karnos) was tied with the All Alone wagon, with both at 4 votes. >>>
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Post Post #563 (isolation #78) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:04 pm

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In post 561, Alisae wrote:WOWIE! THAT'S 1 HELLAVA 180 MISTER!
Who this at? Context?
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Post Post #567 (isolation #79) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:06 pm

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In post 566, ThinkBig wrote:I skimmed the thread when I first replaced in and missed some context/content. I was unsure of AA at first and now he is my biggest scum read.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #571 (isolation #80) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:09 pm

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In post 570, ThinkBig wrote:Even if my vote was on AA, I'd still would have unvoted as I don't want anyone at L-1 right now.

P-edit: Nice shade throwing.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #81) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:10 pm

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In post 571, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 570, ThinkBig wrote:Even if my vote was on AA, I'd still would have unvoted as I don't want anyone at L-1 right now.

P-edit: Nice shade throwing.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #82) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:11 pm

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lolhammer equals scum?
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Post Post #579 (isolation #83) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:19 pm

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In post 578, Alisae wrote:Hey TB, remember this game?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8687489
I know you do because you have it in your signature.
You know the post I just linked? Huh, I wonder what you are doing right now.
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Post Post #581 (isolation #84) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:19 pm

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I WAS IN THAT GAME
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Post Post #583 (isolation #85) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:20 pm

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Doesn't mean I can't watch lmao
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Post Post #588 (isolation #86) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:23 pm

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SCFTWR might be what's happening but we will let it play out

I share my love towards Nacho, Mastina, and Pine. Your name is not listed so no.

THINKBIG YOU JUST EXPLAINED A SOUND LOGICAL CASE AND SAID IT WAS BAD
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Post Post #593 (isolation #87) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:32 pm

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In post 585, ThinkBig wrote: 1. AA is low-hanging fruit
2. As scum, I go for low-hanging frut
3. Therefore, I am scum.

Please tell me this doesn't fit the definition of inductive reasoning
As scum, I go for low-hanging fruit
AA is low-hanging fruit
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Post Post #613 (isolation #88) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:18 pm

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{LQ, Alisae}
{TB, Shannon}
{Lexa, Prana, Garmr, Jordan}
{Pep, BBT}
{Karnos, AA}
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Post Post #615 (isolation #89) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:34 pm

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Where am I on the list lol
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Post Post #657 (isolation #90) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:41 am

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Is it weird that I don't remember this playstyle from you Karnos?
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Post Post #660 (isolation #91) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:53 am

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So what changed?
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Post Post #694 (isolation #92) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:37 am

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In post 689, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I mean, I think you're scum, but do I really need to explain to you why you're scum?

Probably not.
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In post 689, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I mean, I think you're scum, but do I really need to explain to you why you're scum?

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Post Post #699 (isolation #94) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:09 am

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In post 697, PranaDevil wrote:
In post 690, Alisae wrote:
In post 686, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Nah, Karnos is a great lynch.

He is trying to scare away a potential hammer by saying he might shoot them.
You're not wrong. He is a great lynch.
Is he trying to scare away a potential hammer? Nah. I think we have more time to spend and we could be looking elsewhere, that's all.
Plus if we do decide to let him live, scum will just NK him.
Hold up, that last line I really, really do not like. If we let him live scum will NK him sounds like you know he's town and scum need him out of the way.

Can anyone explain the sudden BBT voting to me please?
I see it as a talk in theatricals, like when you say the real Vig will just shoot.

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Post Post #717 (isolation #95) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:42 pm

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Okay what does EOD mean?
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Post Post #720 (isolation #96) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:02 pm

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I saw my name and will respond to what I read first because ego. I flat out said what you were saying was untrue and a false push. There was no way I was letting you start a push on someone when you're already wrong before you started arguing.
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Post Post #721 (isolation #97) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:04 pm

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Also the fact that you can't find out why BBT's post is scum worthy concerns me a lot
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Post Post #723 (isolation #98) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:08 pm

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You're cheeky, I also like to use other people's words on them
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Post Post #724 (isolation #99) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:10 pm

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Prana, there was no way you didn't think it was a perspective slip. You would be pushing a perspective slip on something that is seriously talked about as normal and can be said by town.

Have you even tried to look into BBTs post and at least guess why it's scummy?
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Post Post #728 (isolation #100) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:29 pm

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Prana, you're saying it's scummy for me to say your argument is invalid. Get the fuck over it.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #101) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:32 pm

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In post 719, PranaDevil wrote:I don't trust the role claim by itself
Oh so you think Karnos is scum but Alisae is scum who you think told us Karnos was town in a non-perspective slip. They're both scum but Karnos is town because Alisae is scum.

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Post Post #734 (isolation #102) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:59 pm

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In post 733, LicketyQuickety wrote:Can we please NOT do Pre-Flip, Thanks.
Associative are meant for flips, thank you
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Post Post #751 (isolation #103) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 6:02 pm

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YOU STOP THAT

<<< I DON'T WANNA >>>
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Post Post #782 (isolation #104) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:40 am

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Well I'm fucking dead.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #105) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:42 am

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In post 782, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Well I'm fucking dead.
Doc, BB, heal me please. I'm not saying I'm confirmed townie but we can all agree there is no reason to not think I'm worth protecting. Unless of course a PR claimed.
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Post Post #784 (isolation #106) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:43 am

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Karnos, Do All Alone, he was the counterwagon and honestly the player who has done fuck all. We argued policy and he's been scum. Act like a Vig and make it so it's like a double day tomorrow.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #107) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:44 am

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Can't believe that was hammer already so quickly.
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Post Post #786 (isolation #108) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:45 am

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wait he posted, let me review
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Post Post #788 (isolation #109) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:48 am

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Okay AA is good posting
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Post Post #790 (isolation #110) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:50 am

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Nah, All Alone is clear mate. Also you want to kill your town lean?
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Post Post #792 (isolation #111) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:53 am

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You are the only one not town reading me sweetie. You may not think it but everyone knows I'm fucking town. With no PR you protect the towniest MoFo, i.e. me.
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Post Post #794 (isolation #112) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:03 am

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Also you're scum reading me for saying it was blatantly obvious that BBT's post was loaded with scum vibes. That's literally the only reason and even you know that's fishy as fuck.

Well Prana, the thing is, because I'm the highest town read MoFo, there is no reason not to kill me as no one lynches their top town reads. Not that hard a concept.

As scum you NK the unlynchable and strongest players. In this case, you're the only one scum reading me. Everyone else concurs that I'm town.
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Post Post #795 (isolation #113) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:08 am

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If you so badly want to know what I found wrong with that post, it was the pure fact that he said "Do I need to explain why you're scum; probably not." Simply, Karnos is the main wagon and everyone scum reads him so he can go "oh I can vote and skate by without giving reasons. A free mislynch. That's what I read. You ALWAYS explain a vote so people can look at why you did this or that and look at your true intentions. To blatantly ignore that process is being a cheeky scum move.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #114) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:23 am

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If he's a Vengeful townie then it's a dead slot unless we want to use him as a Vig. I mean when you're a vengeful townie, you want to be lynched. It's not exactly a role you'd claim to get votes off of you
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Post Post #800 (isolation #115) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:30 am

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No that's pretty much it. You just don't promote your own lynch as scum lol
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Post Post #803 (isolation #116) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:48 am

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I believe the claim, I see BBT make a scummy post, I put pressure on him. That's how the game works. I don't vote park.

Also for real, when you say you're a vengeful townie, you are promising the town that you won't be alive in LyLo. If all else fails, you promote your lynch as Vengeful to get the Vig shot.

Why is it that the most basic concepts this game make absolute no sense to you? It's like you take common sense and do the exact opposite of it.
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Post Post #807 (isolation #117) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:32 am

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Okay maybe one can answer this question but does anyone have a link to a game they experienced a scum claiming Vengeful townie and got away with it? Unless I see proof, I just can't bring myself to believe that scum would do it.
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Post Post #808 (isolation #118) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:33 am

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I realize it's pointless to ask this as Karnos is already lynched but I'd like to know for future endeavors
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Post Post #835 (isolation #119) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:14 pm

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In post 832, Alisae wrote:I think your both scum.
You for attempting to push AA, who is fuckin obvious low hanging fruit.
And Parna for pushing a slip that wasn't a slip.
So either of ywall gettin rope is fine with me.
Your logic on why TB is scum sucks ass.
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Post Post #836 (isolation #120) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:14 pm

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Hi!
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Post Post #838 (isolation #121) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:17 pm

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In post 837, PranaDevil wrote:I made my case on Alisae before, and Karnos' flip is further evidence Alisae is scum (for those that missed it... first, why aren't you reading properly? Second, Alisae was very very eager to get the wagon elsewhere after the "claim").
I'll be reading back to confirm but is this true?
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Post Post #839 (isolation #122) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:19 pm

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I'll be serious I forgot about this game because 4 days is forever lol

<<< You'd be surprised how much that helps some people. >>>
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Post Post #842 (isolation #123) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:20 pm

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In post 840, Alisae wrote:So you were wrong and you still tried to push it?
Wow, you must really want me to get mislynched

Either way, my flip isn't going to make anyone cry.

If you say so
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Post Post #846 (isolation #124) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:22 pm

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"lynch me I don't care" is scum sass
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Post Post #850 (isolation #125) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:25 pm

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crumbing roles is some late 2016 bullshit that can be faked easy as hell either side.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #126) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:28 pm

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nahhhhhhhhh. I gave you a free pass because you wouldn't shut up. Deadass have not cared about your slot at all. Now I do.
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Post Post #856 (isolation #127) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:32 pm

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In post 854, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:nahhhhhhhhh. I gave you a free pass because you wouldn't shut up. Deadass have not cared about your slot at all. Now I do.
God, the millennial in me came out

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The basic idea is to control and harvest your emotions, not let your actions be dictated by your emotions. You're not a robot, so you're going to have emotions. It's a matter of keeping them in check and using them to your advantage. Turn emotions into a weapon. (Heck, a large part of good scum play can be manipulating town players into HAVING certain emotions, which give you an edge in the game.) Which emotion is best suited to serve you varies from game to game, but one large example would be apathy; it KILLS towns, so instilling it (especially in otherwise-charismatic players) is a great way to tip the scales in your favor. Basically, you want to use your emotions, not be abused by them.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #128) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:35 pm

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TB is my number one town read sweetie
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Post Post #862 (isolation #129) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:37 pm

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You tell me first
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Post Post #864 (isolation #130) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:39 pm

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TB, to be clear, you're saying Alisae visited Jordan?
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Post Post #867 (isolation #131) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:47 pm

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ThinkBig this isn't that bloody hard to say. Are you a watcher or no/
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Post Post #869 (isolation #132) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:48 pm

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okay
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Post Post #870 (isolation #133) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:49 pm

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Thought you were going to make today easy
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Post Post #874 (isolation #134) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:51 pm

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Get your shit vote off of ThinkBig
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Post Post #877 (isolation #135) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:53 pm

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ThinkBig is more town than me.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #136) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:54 pm

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Did Alisae actively dismantle the Karnos wagon?
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Post Post #882 (isolation #137) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:57 pm

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His name is in your ISO 18 times
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Post Post #884 (isolation #138) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:59 pm

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Spoiler: Bloop
In post 121, Alisae wrote:Nyd I got salty and I was hard tunneling Pep that game. I also thought DBW in that game was a cop lmao.

Jordan I don't like him responding to LQ's points that were directed towards me. I don't see a reason for to interject there. Also I don't like how he basicly threw shade at LQ telling him to go back to a newbie, it felt like discredditing coming from scum.
Karnos I really don't have a good feel on their posts atm.
LQ is where I'm voting atm mostly because I felt like they were reaching with their jump on shannon. Furthermore they feel like they're playing in a newbie because of the responses they are getting from their analysis is really bad.
In post 254, Alisae wrote:With that said I think I'm going to need to re-read the Karnos stuff. Must be popular for a reason.
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In post 290, Alisae wrote:
In post 288, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Alisae, do that thing where you say why someone
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The bolded part is what triggered gut pings.
In post 313, Alisae wrote:I would too.

And it's not that Gin, it's A. by voting Pep and then switching back to Karnos saying "I should put my vote back on somewhere where it's useful" implies you never thought your vote on Pep was useful to begin with.
B. Seems like he's starting to derail some wagon by starting a new one but maybe I'm just overeacting to it. That shift was wierd.
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In post 437, Alisae wrote:Karnos, Jordan (the x's guy), AA. Reads on those and why.
In post 447, Alisae wrote:I never said I found them towny at all I just asked what your opinion of Karnos was.
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In post 507, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Alisae, how do you have Jordan and Karnos both scum leaning? If I correctly gauge how the game is going, you either think Karnos is the scum or Jordan is the scum, so how come both?
Um I don't have them both scumleaning.
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In post 686, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Nah, Karnos is a great lynch.

He is trying to scare away a potential hammer by saying he might shoot them.
You're not wrong. He is a great lynch.
Is he trying to scare away a potential hammer? Nah. I think we have more time to spend and we could be looking elsewhere, that's all.
Plus if we do decide to let him live, scum will just NK him.
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What we can do is we could leash who Karnos kills.
Suggest like 3 names for him to kill.
And then he kills whoever out of that pool.
Good idea anyone if the claim is real?
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In post 737, Alisae wrote:His play leading up to the claim is fine. If anything he was just trying to get SR'd so he can do his thing.
You're suggested that I slipped that Karnos is town. I didn't. I said scum would probably NK him because they probably don't want to risk him hitting scum if he were to get lynched.
You're pushing a slip that isn't a slip. That's a scumtell for me.
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In post 744, shannon wrote:Yeah it's an OK idea, except how do we all agree on three people? And why three? Let's go ahead and find the scummiest person and give Karnos that name. (Are you trying to draw role claims from three more people who wouldn't want to be NKed?)
Who said we had to agree on 3? And 3 is good because it's not too big or too small. If it's too small then scum has too much influence over it. If it's too big then it doesn't get any reactions.
In post 830, Alisae wrote:What a terrible vote Obama.
You should push the person who thought I slipped that Karnos was town, because as the flip shows, that's obviously not a slip.

Oh wait, ThinkBig is scum.
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Post Post #889 (isolation #139) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:01 pm

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In post 885, Alisae wrote:
In post 872, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 766, XnadrojX wrote: Prana and Shannon seems to be the most agreed on townread based on what is going on.
ThinkBig is a strange mix of scummy posts and townie posts. Don't really know how to read that slot.
Alisae just announced he's scum, and likely with karnos. Bringing off a lot of the votes off karnos was Alisae.
The fact that the wagon just dissipated like that indicates scum, probably a scumbuddy tried to derail.
I dunno about AA, he hasn't made enough posts for me to properly get a read on him, leaning scum for now I think.
That thing from Lexa is NAI, can't blame inconvenient timing looking opportune imo. (Unless I'm too trusting of people which I doubt)
There still was no reason to vote BBT over karnos, karnos still stood as the scummier person.
Speaking of karnos, the claim was shit. I doubt he actually a Vengeful townie (unless Vengeful Mafia but I've never heard of it) it looked a lot like a self defence move to me.

This is the best you're gonna get out of me for the weekend.
Interesting.
I don't see why a townie would bring this shit up anyways.
How does this not look like scum preparing to get a lynch off me?
He fucking flipped town
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Post Post #891 (isolation #140) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:03 pm

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Frame you for a kill?
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Post Post #894 (isolation #141) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:08 pm

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I forgot the game existed, but I remember my actions quite well like anyone else would.

Replaced in around 3am, posted and shredded the first 12 pages, then slept, got town read, continued to make posts questioning people, talked to LQ, told me to talk to him later, I went lurker for a bit to see how the game played out, joined Karnos wagon, chilled there, questioned some more people, left the Karnos wagon and voted BBT
(Alisae sheeped this vote onto BBT)
, then some yelling, I apparently got scum read by Prana, I said it would be dumb for scum to claim Vengeful. Now I'm here.

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Post Post #895 (isolation #142) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:09 pm

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In post 893, Alisae wrote:
In post 891, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Frame you for a kill?
YES! HE'S TRYING TO FRAME ME FOR KILLING JORDAN!
He said he wasn't a watcher so he didn't actually get a result on you
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Post Post #899 (isolation #143) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:14 pm

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ThinkBig, are you saying Alisae killed Jordan?

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Post Post #903 (isolation #144) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:15 pm

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In post 902, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 899, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:ThinkBig, are you saying Alisae killed Jordan?
No. It was a reaction test.
I believe it
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Post Post #908 (isolation #145) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:25 pm

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Alisae, talk about Prana and explain that read, I'm not letting you vote thinkbig
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Post Post #940 (isolation #146) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:13 pm

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I now find that there is a large contradiction in LQ's play. (Thanks Gramr, I think I was buddied because I love theory talk :()

Well in the theory talk that LQ was explaining to me, he found it very AI the way people posted and that's how he got a read on him. This game he linked was a town game of Karnos. If what LQ says is what he believes, that means he would think Karnos is in fact town but he sat at null. I don't think it was really that hard to understand you either voted for Karnos cuz he was scummy to you or he was town. I find it odd that he remained null for the longest of times...

Oh, and trying to derail a wagon on a person he didn't think was town :p I'll derail any town wagon I see, even at one vote (as I did with ThinkBig), but I actually sometimes vote my null reads (ask Alisae lmfao) because it helps me discover more about their alignment and how they handle the wagon.
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Post Post #945 (isolation #147) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:47 pm

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So Lexa, don't like walls, they're catch up posts and you just report what happened. What are you pushing for right now?
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Post Post #947 (isolation #148) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:56 pm

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Yeah but you were the one that slapped me out of a daze lol

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Post Post #950 (isolation #149) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:05 pm

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So what is it that you don't like about the theories?

I've seen scum do it 100% of the time and nigh remember a townie doing it, so yeah, fuck walls.
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Post Post #951 (isolation #150) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:05 pm

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Walls as in catch up posts summarizing the thread
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Post Post #953 (isolation #151) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:09 pm

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Here's the thing Lexa that I'm starting to pick up on. Scum are not good at, or choose not to participate in heated discussion. When you have to think of things quickly, it gets harder to produce thoughts that push a scum agenda as you can't manipulate the information but are forced to give out what you think. That's the meat and potatoes of a townie. So far with you doing only catch up posts and describing "this post is scummy and this one isn't" leaves you with being able to give scum reads, look like you're contributing but the key here is that you are not pushing shit.

You didn't even have a vote at the end of your analysis.
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Post Post #954 (isolation #152) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:10 pm

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In post 952, Lexa wrote:I town read LQ, I don't find Garmr's arguments compelling, I find his quotes heavily cherrypicked, and I have three scum reads on the LQ wagon
Explain to me why Garmr's arguments are not to your liking. Don't just say you don't like it. Tell me what is wrong with it.
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Post Post #955 (isolation #153) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:11 pm

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If LQ is your fucking town read you'd best be defending him hard at L-1
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Post Post #957 (isolation #154) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:14 pm

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Lexa you made that during N1?
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Post Post #958 (isolation #155) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:17 pm

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In post 957, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Lexa you made that during N1?
Nevermind this, thought I saw a contradiction but every time you regarded a flip it was about Karnos, thought your post included the Jordan flip.

Oh and I know that and went back and checked because I read it.

Just because i hate it doesn't mean I don't read it so fuck off and give actual reasons why you don't think Garmr is right.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #156) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:22 pm

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Alright, now your thoughts on my post explaining the contradiction in LQ's playstyle and how he read Karnos/never voted?
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Post Post #964 (isolation #157) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:27 pm

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What post (hyperbole warning) screamed town to you? You like to reference posts to explain your reads so I don't doubt you can do me this courtesy to build a town case on LQ.
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Post Post #968 (isolation #158) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:37 pm

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The basis in why I say that is because later on he actually says he will go out of his way to prove that the post formatting is town!Karnos in Evidence A.

Evidence B is 3 quotes showing that he HEAVILY relies on using that as part of his reads as that is apparently what he is really good at, what he uses to form opinions.

So yes, I fully believe that given "LQ's special type of meta" and how he portrayed it, that he would town reading Karnos pretty hard but he didn't. He was at a null.

Spoiler: Evidence A
In post 392, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 390, Garmr wrote:
In post 381, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 378, shannon wrote:Why point out that the post formatting is the same, if it doesn't mean anything Lickety?
Because its evidence that if he is Scum there is no gaping holes in his game by even appearance of his posts. This indicates someone who would be rather proficient as a Scum player if he is Scum in this game.

I often observe and notice things other people don't consider. This is one of those things.
Honestly his format isn't the same if there's so much difference through.
Do I really have to go "Ham" and point out how they are similar, because I totally will.


Spoiler: Evidence B
In post 393, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 391, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Post formatting is not alignment indicative. I'm sorry but it's silly.
How do you know this? Have you even had a conversation about it before?
In post 395, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 394, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:You're judging a book in the means if it's a hardback or a softback cover. You need to actually analyze the reading inside the book. The rest doesn't matter.

Now, what you might be getting at is a person naked voting as scum and then voting with reasoning attached to the same post as town. If that's it, then I understand that.

However if you're saying it's alignment indicative in a person in how they format posts, ya know basically the aesthetic part of making a post, then I'm just going to say it's silly.
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And its not whether its hard cover or soft cover. Its about what the paragraph structure is like, what the diction used is like, what is the range of emotions that person exhibits in their play.
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In post 396, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If after post game this ends up working, I'll consider looking more into your theory work. I am of the opinion that if anyone has any literary talent, they can easily fake emotions. I personally hold more weight to a persons argument and how they present it over emotions. I'm more of the objective over the subjective reader if you catch my drift.
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Post Post #971 (isolation #159) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:47 pm

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Here's the thing. This game is about psychology. One thing I'm actually going to do some theory work is the reaction caused by two scums and having one buddy the other.

Ya see, scum don't like calling their scum partners scum because they don't actually want them lynched, they also don't want to call their scum partners town because they don't want to take any heat for "town reading" someone when they flip scum.

So it is common scum psychology and henceforth the scum motivation to provide a town case for Karnos while not actually out right saying he thinks Karnos is town to not draw attention
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Post Post #974 (isolation #160) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:56 pm

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Mastina, obviously you can't talk to me about it right now but sit on the idea and give me feedback post-game where you may talk without game influence.

So hearing me out, one thing I notice is that the scum move of "buddying" a townie to carry in LyLo for the win or just in general has only been done by a scum to a townie. Almost every time I see the associative say "he buddied Player X so he must be town." Now if you were to do that with scum onto a scum, not only would you clear your partner if you flipped, but you also effectively null a town tell which later increases your scum game in the future.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #161) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:58 pm

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Only took him 100 more posts after saying that to say I'm a solid town read.
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Post Post #980 (isolation #162) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:13 pm

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In post 973, Lexa wrote:
In post 971, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Here's the thing. This game is about psychology. One thing I'm actually going to do some theory work is the reaction caused by two scums and having one buddy the other.

Ya see, scum don't like calling their scum partners scum because they don't actually want them lynched, they also don't want to call their scum partners town because they don't want to take any heat for "town reading" someone when they flip scum.

So it is common scum psychology and henceforth the scum motivation to provide a town case for Karnos while not actually out right saying he thinks Karnos is town to not draw attention
I agree that this is often the case. I contend that it's also common for town to be cautious in labeling people scum or town while also building a case for similar reasons, either to avoid being pressured for a vote or read that they may not be certain of or to avoid entrenching themselves in labeling bias. This seems more likely in LQs case than in the null case for reasons such as those seen in 226 where he explicitly states that his methods of reasoning are more fluid and the implication is that it takes time to get to concrete reads.
Also, I don't remember a single townie that thinks, I'm not going to give my opinion on a player because I'm afraid of the repercussions. I also don't think it's right to say that something that is done by scum is also done by townies when it's clearly not.

Like this entire time you defend him by going "Well I agree with what you're saying but town could do it to..."

P-Edit: If that was when I first joined, please read my 1st in game post. It was a literal shit post. The difference here is I just asked a couple questions and called some shit out; with Karnos, he had interactions with multiple players and no read was formed.

Oh and to shoot down ya argument that you gotta give him a minute to form a read, Karnos posted 147 times and not once, not even towards the end did LQ say he thought Karnos was town or scum.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #163) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:25 pm

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Lexa, you said it takes LQ time to form reads, I pointed out that he formed one on me quickly, you said I posted content so that could be a reason, so I pointed out that Karnos had a shit load of content and was lynched and the difference being that I had a read quickly on me, Karnos never got a read from LQ.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #164) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:26 pm

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There was no reason to not form an opinion on Karnos besides following the psychology I laid out clearly on scum players.
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Post Post #992 (isolation #165) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:33 pm

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In post 987, Lexa wrote:I can't speak for LQ but looking at your iso and judging by his stated method of evaluating people, your first 29 posts are highly consistent in tone and style. I can only assume karnos's content was not.
Why couldn't you look at Karnos' ISO to see if he kept the same tone, the fuck?
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Post Post #994 (isolation #166) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:34 pm

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In post 992, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 987, Lexa wrote:I can't speak for LQ but looking at your iso and judging by his stated method of evaluating people, your first 29 posts are highly consistent in tone and style. I can only assume karnos's content was not.
Why couldn't you look at Karnos' ISO to see if he kept the same tone, the fuck?
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Post Post #996 (isolation #167) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:38 pm

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In post 995, Lexa wrote:More importantly the question is whether LQ thought that his play matched up with his previous play or not what what reads he could draw from that
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Post Post #998 (isolation #168) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:39 pm

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Post Post #1000 (isolation #169) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:40 pm

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EVIDENCE A, SWEETHEART
In post 968, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:The basis in why I say that is because later on he actually says he will go out of his way to prove that the post formatting is town!Karnos in Evidence A.

Evidence B is 3 quotes showing that he HEAVILY relies on using that as part of his reads as that is apparently what he is really good at, what he uses to form opinions.

So yes, I fully believe that given "LQ's special type of meta" and how he portrayed it, that he would town reading Karnos pretty hard but he didn't. He was at a null.

Spoiler: Evidence A
In post 392, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 390, Garmr wrote:
In post 381, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 378, shannon wrote:Why point out that the post formatting is the same, if it doesn't mean anything Lickety?
Because its evidence that if he is Scum there is no gaping holes in his game by even appearance of his posts. This indicates someone who would be rather proficient as a Scum player if he is Scum in this game.

I often observe and notice things other people don't consider. This is one of those things.
Honestly his format isn't the same if there's so much difference through.
Do I really have to go "Ham" and point out how they are similar, because I totally will.


Spoiler: Evidence B
In post 393, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 391, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Post formatting is not alignment indicative. I'm sorry but it's silly.
How do you know this? Have you even had a conversation about it before?
In post 395, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 394, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:You're judging a book in the means if it's a hardback or a softback cover. You need to actually analyze the reading inside the book. The rest doesn't matter.

Now, what you might be getting at is a person naked voting as scum and then voting with reasoning attached to the same post as town. If that's it, then I understand that.

However if you're saying it's alignment indicative in a person in how they format posts, ya know basically the aesthetic part of making a post, then I'm just going to say it's silly.
Nope, nope, nope. Disagree so much with you on that. The aesthetic stuff is actually really really good to look at. Reason: Hardly anyone thinks to adapt their game that way. Also, meta tells are almost never as you describe them. Its about what that person plays like, not making a list of things they do or don't do as either alignment. If that is the way you do meta tells, then you will have to play many more games with the same person to be able to get a solid info base, which btw, changes all the time. Its about reading the personality of the player, not a categorical methodology.

And its not whether its hard cover or soft cover. Its about what the paragraph structure is like, what the diction used is like, what is the range of emotions that person exhibits in their play.
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I use both but I am better at subjective stuff.
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #170) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:42 pm

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Here it is wrapped all in one nice pretty post.
In post 995, Lexa wrote:More importantly the question is whether LQ thought that his play matched up with his previous play or not what what reads he could draw from that
In post 1000, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:EVIDENCE A, SWEETHEART
In post 968, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:The basis in why I say that is because later on he actually says he will go out of his way to prove that the post formatting is town!Karnos in Evidence A.

Evidence B is 3 quotes showing that he HEAVILY relies on using that as part of his reads as that is apparently what he is really good at, what he uses to form opinions.

So yes, I fully believe that given "LQ's special type of meta" and how he portrayed it, that he would town reading Karnos pretty hard but he didn't. He was at a null.

Spoiler: Evidence A
In post 392, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 390, Garmr wrote:
In post 381, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 378, shannon wrote:Why point out that the post formatting is the same, if it doesn't mean anything Lickety?
Because its evidence that if he is Scum there is no gaping holes in his game by even appearance of his posts. This indicates someone who would be rather proficient as a Scum player if he is Scum in this game.

I often observe and notice things other people don't consider. This is one of those things.
Honestly his format isn't the same if there's so much difference through.
Do I really have to go "Ham" and point out how they are similar, because I totally will.


Spoiler: Evidence B
In post 393, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 391, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Post formatting is not alignment indicative. I'm sorry but it's silly.
How do you know this? Have you even had a conversation about it before?
In post 395, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 394, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:You're judging a book in the means if it's a hardback or a softback cover. You need to actually analyze the reading inside the book. The rest doesn't matter.

Now, what you might be getting at is a person naked voting as scum and then voting with reasoning attached to the same post as town. If that's it, then I understand that.

However if you're saying it's alignment indicative in a person in how they format posts, ya know basically the aesthetic part of making a post, then I'm just going to say it's silly.
Nope, nope, nope. Disagree so much with you on that. The aesthetic stuff is actually really really good to look at. Reason: Hardly anyone thinks to adapt their game that way. Also, meta tells are almost never as you describe them. Its about what that person plays like, not making a list of things they do or don't do as either alignment. If that is the way you do meta tells, then you will have to play many more games with the same person to be able to get a solid info base, which btw, changes all the time. Its about reading the personality of the player, not a categorical methodology.

And its not whether its hard cover or soft cover. Its about what the paragraph structure is like, what the diction used is like, what is the range of emotions that person exhibits in their play.
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In post 396, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If after post game this ends up working, I'll consider looking more into your theory work. I am of the opinion that if anyone has any literary talent, they can easily fake emotions. I personally hold more weight to a persons argument and how they present it over emotions. I'm more of the objective over the subjective reader if you catch my drift.
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #171) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:44 pm

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In post 1003, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: LQ

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Post Post #1005 (isolation #172) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:46 pm

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In post 1003, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VOTE: LQ

Pow.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #173) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:47 pm

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No further comments BBT?
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #174) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:48 pm

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Also I love ThinkBig so much, he's my number one
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #175) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:52 pm

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Who you think is the 3rd?
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #176) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:53 pm

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In post 1009, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Who you think is the 3rd?
Forget what I just said, dont say anything
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Post Post #1034 (isolation #177) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:26 am

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In post 1030, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Alisae is today's lynch.

Am I the only person surprised that All Alone died and Real G&T are still alive?
You are not the only one surprised.

I'm going to go ahead and claim now as my death is pretty much in the near future.

I'm another town JOAT, I have a a Cop/Gunsmith/Neapolitan shot and used the first two.

ThinkBig is 100% town, hence why D2, I was saying how much I loved Thinkbig so incase I die, I had crumbs to hint at who invested.

I used the Gunsmith on BBT, he is also clear.

The Neapolitan shot, I really don't know the use for but hell I got it.
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Post Post #1035 (isolation #178) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:27 am

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In post 1021, Garmr wrote:Scum is most likely In shannon,think big and/or BBt. Alisae has down worse shit as town in the past and I can see alisae doing this as town.
2/3 are completely wrong. I'm starting to feel like the 3rd would be wrong as well.
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Post Post #1038 (isolation #179) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:29 am

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What is the possibility that I was kept alive over All Alone because I sided with Garmr yesterday? If I was doing a great service pushing mislynches, I could see it likely being that I was kept alive due to myself being easily manipulated into getting whipped into the read they wanted.

That's assuming a Garmr/Alisae final two scum team.
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #180) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:31 am

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Although I'm more than happy to abide by that, I'm going to wait for Pep.

<<< If this is another request for a Pepchoninga replacement, I will point you to my edited response in , as well as : I cannot replace a slot unless either the slot itself asks for replacement, or it fails to pick up a prod. I cannot prod a slot until 72 hours after day's start. Day has lasted, as of this edit, 13 hours. Pepchoninga would not be eligible for a prod for 69 hours: (expired on 2017-02-06 16:58:09). If day is still ongoing when that meter expires, Pepchoninga will be prodded. Not a moment sooner. >>>


Also, I must give a thousand apologies to Lexa. I am become error.
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #181) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:34 am

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I town read him so freaking hard tho, I knew in my SOUL that he was town and then Garmr told me why LQ could be scum and I liked the smell of it and took off lol
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #182) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:35 am

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Who is scum now?
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #183) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:39 am

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ThinkBig, Gin, BBT, Lexa

are my townies 4lyfe
1. shannon
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9. Alisae
10. Garmr
13. PranaDevil

These guys I need to go back over.
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #184) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:05 am

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In post 1058, Garmr wrote:
In post 1056, ThinkBig wrote:You think my play is shorty and yet you're the one who is town reading someone based on a previous game? Give me a fucking break.
Also you don't believe in meta? Lol when you play enough with someone and look into their past games you get a feel for them.

So lets say alisae flips town will you admit your fucking shit at mafia?
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Post Post #1064 (isolation #185) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:15 am

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You say it like its an impossibility
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #186) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:36 am

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You pushed a mislynch lmao
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #187) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:41 am

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Being completely honest. Someone that plays for 3 years on this site, I don't really see "losing ones shit" to happen so easily, if at all. Being wrong is part of the game and you learn that quickly
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Post Post #1075 (isolation #188) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:42 am

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In post 1068, Garmr wrote:You know what if your going to be that ungrateful for me actually hunting scum and actually defending against two mislynches i'm replacing out.




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Post Post #1078 (isolation #189) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:52 am

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*shiver me timbers*
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Post Post #1087 (isolation #190) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:00 am

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In post 1085, Alisae wrote:Alright everyone
I have an investigation result that suggests I have a guilty ;)
Spill it
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #191) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:46 am

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In post 1088, Lexa wrote:An investigation result from the claimed vanilla town, nice.

VOTE: Alisae
I'm waiting on what she says, claiming VT to protect yourself from a NK is acceptable play IMO, plz unvote before we have an lol hammer and miss the results incase she is actually telling the truth
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #192) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:57 am

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In post 1095, PranaDevil wrote:So... JOAT (with two cop type uses) gets NKd.

Gin claims JOAT, and has used 2 cop like roles within it.

And now Alisae is apparently a cop as well? Either that's some desperate scum, or this should never have made it past the moderators to being a normal anything.
This does irk me
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #193) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:10 am

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I can use my neopolitian on Alisae?

This has me very much confuse
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Post Post #1106 (isolation #194) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:13 am

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Lexa, claim
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #195) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:16 am

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VOTE: alisae
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #196) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:21 am

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I think Pep or Granr, Lexa is town to me
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #197) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:26 pm

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In post 1068, Garmr wrote:You know what if your going to be that ungrateful for me actually hunting scum and actually defending against two mislynches i'm replacing out.




You ruined the game for me think I was a vanilla townie learn to play *u**.
In post 1069, Garmr wrote:I put my soul in this game and tried my hardest not my fault lq was shit and working against town (final post)
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Post Post #1142 (isolation #198) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:00 pm

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I'm slowing the fuck down today because I lynched my top two town reads. This makes me feel like I had pretty bitching reads to begin with.

As for who I targeted, gimme a minute
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Post Post #1144 (isolation #199) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:02 pm

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Well I felt good about it and BBT did a quick hammer, I wasn't actually ready for that day to end and it was my mistake at keeping him at L-1
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