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Post Post #454 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:03 am

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Glad to be replacing! I'll be reading tonight when I get home. Can anyone summarize the game so far? Anything I should pay close attention to?
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Post Post #455 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:09 am

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In post 7, XnadrojX wrote:One shot*

<<< No, I'm pretty sure it was one shit claimer. >>>
Well played, moderator. Well played.

<<< Just because I'm the moderator doesn't mean I can't play the game!
...Wait, this is a mini normal?
...Fuck. >>>
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Post Post #456 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:14 am

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In post 17, LicketyQuickety wrote:Hello.

I am here to tell you I have a hell of a role. I have the best role as I always have the best roles because I am the best and play the best games.

Yours Truly,

LicketyTrump.
This made me laugh.

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<<< Fake news! FAKE! NEWS! >>>
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Post Post #457 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:25 am

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I'm only five pages in and have already had to piss twice from reading the moderator's edits. This is going to be a fun game. Love this mod already :D

<<< <3 >>>
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Post Post #459 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:29 am

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Sounds good. I see that Karnos is the biggest wagon right now. I'll definitely be paying close attention to him. Few pages in and not really liking either Karnos or LQ. I think there is a scum between the two of them.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #5) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:42 am

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As of page 8, town read on Shannon and Garmr. Null town on Alisae
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Post Post #462 (isolation #6) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:43 am

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In post 461, Alisae wrote:Thanks Obama
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Post Post #463 (isolation #7) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:02 am

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As of page 12

TOWN
Garmr
Jin
Shannon
Devil

NULL
Alisae
All Alone
Pep
Lexa
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BlueBloodedToffee

SCUM
LicketyQuickety
Karnos

I'll be happy to vote either LQ or Karnos
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Post Post #464 (isolation #8) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:14 am

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In post 401, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 400, All Alone wrote:
In post 365, PranaDevil wrote:All Alone doing absolutely sod all is bad. As in super terrible. All that has happened, and you turn up, unvote and nothing else? No. Do something. Definitely moved into the scum read territory.
The disingenuous posturing store called, they ran out of YOU!

VOTE: PranaDevil
The OMGUS is real.

VOTE: AA

This feels very opportunistic.
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Post Post #466 (isolation #9) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:20 am

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In post 465, LicketyQuickety wrote:How so? How many votes does AA have?
Right now he has 3.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #10) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:22 am

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Headed out for the evening. I'll vote when I get back and give a full analysis of what I see so far.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:23 am

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In post 467, LicketyQuickety wrote:What about my vote didn't you like? Why was it bad besides the buzzword of opportunistic?
Accusing AA of an OMGUS vote. That's why it felt opportunistic. I disagree with the reason behind your vote, and I'll explain why when I get back. I don't think it is alignment indicative and I don't think it is OMGUS.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:24 am

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In post 467, LicketyQuickety wrote:Alisae strikes me as the type of player who is likely to change votes often.
I've played with him in several games. I remember one game in which he voted for every single player alive and even voted for a no lynch. He seems to sheep a lot and goes with the WOTC.
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Post Post #477 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:43 am

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In post 474, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:ThinkBig are you town?
No, I am scum.

Oops game solved. Ez game is ez

/sarcasm
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Post Post #478 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:44 am

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But yes, I am town.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #15) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:53 am

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In post 481, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 445, mastina wrote:
<<< KTthecreeper has requested replacement. Searching now. >>>
The asshole in me wants to put this slot at L-2 and scare the piss out of the replacement
Good thing I don't have any votes on me right now.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #16) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:04 pm

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It's a joke. Nothing to be taken seriously.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #17) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:07 pm

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Lol. I have made those jokes before and even been mislynched because of it.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #18) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:09 pm

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Will provide the links when I get home.
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Post Post #499 (isolation #19) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:16 pm

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VOTE: LQ

For attempting to make something out of nothing. I'll give my full analysis when I get home. I'm leaving my vote here for now.

<<< WHAT DID I JUST TELL YOU?!? >>>
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Post Post #502 (isolation #20) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:16 pm

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Too late! Suck it mod.

<<< :evil:
I mean, didn't stop me from getting the pagetop, but it did mean that I was forced to hastily edit said post and as a result, my post is tarnished by two edits rather than none. >>>
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Post Post #537 (isolation #21) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:00 pm

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Thanks for the welcome vote, Shannon!
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Post Post #539 (isolation #22) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:12 pm

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Shit posting time is over. Time to get serious. I'll give my thoughts when I get home.

<<< Shitposting time might be over, but is shit-editing time over?
I THINK NOT, MY FRIEND! >>>
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Post Post #541 (isolation #23) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:13 pm

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In post 540, Alisae wrote:TB If I didn't love you I would mock you right now <3
Love ya to! <3
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Post Post #545 (isolation #24) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:38 pm

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All Alone is at L-1. Please be careful.

<<< L-3 by my count, actually. Votecount to come as soon as I've read the remaining three pages. >>>
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Post Post #549 (isolation #25) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:40 pm

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I'm going through AA's ISO right now. From what I have seen, I certainly would not mind a PL. But it is way too early to end the day.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #26) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:41 pm

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I do have the feeling that should AA flip town that we will find a lot of scum on his wagon. He's an easy mislynch target and in my experience with him, he usually has very low content and low quality posts.
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Post Post #560 (isolation #27) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:01 pm

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Here's my analysis of AA's ISO:

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In post 32, All Alone wrote:VOTE: nydushermain
RVS vote.
In post 285, All Alone wrote:
In post 273, karnos wrote:
In post 263, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So Shannon, you're saying that, from your point of view, Jordan's play was like throwing a punch at LQ but holding back so he doesn't get the blame for it?
It's worse. He is throwing shade on LQ, and then when someone (me) took his words seriously he turned around and accused me of being scum jumping on an opportunistic wagon (of course, it was a wagon of 0 at the time I voted).
Why do you say you took nadroj's words seriously here? You said you voted LQ for defensiveness and over-explaining rather than his logic, but as far as I can tell nadroj's "shade throwing" was only based on LQ's logic.

UNVOTE:

don't really want my vote anywhere right now tbh
In post 398, All Alone wrote:
In post 289, Alisae wrote:Ok
In post 285, All Alone wrote:don't really want my vote anywhere right now tbh
They don't want to pressure anyone atm nor do they have SRs on anyone atm.
Why do you think I'm more likely to not have any scumreads as scum than town?
In post 399, All Alone wrote:
In post 337, Lexa wrote:
In post 135, Alisae wrote:Fine. I'll be patient and wait look a good child.
The condition for my posting reasoning for my vote on All Alone has now been fulfilled. That condition was All Alone posting so as to see possible reaction / lack thereof in response to my vote.

Prior to my joining this site and signing up for this game I spent some time reading through a couple of the longer games on this site to get a feel for how the game was approached here (sidenote: super helpful, scumhunting tactics I picked up made me so much better in the game I'm currently in on my main site). One of the games in particular featured both All Alone and Alisae, providing a reference point for meta reads. At the time of my vote, Alisae had several votes on him as a result of his posting style and I decided that adding additional pressure to him was less beneficial than putting pressure on All Alone in an attempt to create reactions to base reads on him from.

Based on that previous game that I had read (which I believe is still ongoing last time I looked ~a week ago), I am reasonably confident that Alisae is town. His actions this game are entirely consistent with his behaviour in the previous game and his scumhunting, while arguable how effectual it is, follow similar patterns. That being said, I'm not willing to consider them a lock town at this point in time as their posting style inherently creates a looooot of noise that can hide more legitimate tells on them.

All Alone having posted is now grounds for me to place a FoS on them. Their previous meta as I interpreted it had them being, while not necessarily a lot more active, considerably more proactive in their scumhunting tactics. Their post 285 shows them unvoting as their only post of content since RVS based on "not wanting their vote anywhere" right now. While I'm willing to give this a pass for players who are more actively using their vote and have shown some kind of previous commitment to reads, his lack of activity on that front means that his unvote here looks considerably more like a scum who doesn't want their vote to be tied to someone they can be held accountable to for their opinions should they unvote and wagon in the future.
My scumhunting tactics are really more reactive than proactive, to be honest.

And also,
I
do
expect to be held accountable for my opinions, even when my opinion is that I have no scumreads. That's why I came in here and admitted as much.
This is, IMO, AA's best post of the game.
In post 400, All Alone wrote:
In post 365, PranaDevil wrote:All Alone doing absolutely sod all is bad. As in super terrible. All that has happened, and you turn up, unvote and nothing else? No. Do something. Definitely moved into the scum read territory.
The disingenuous posturing store called, they ran out of YOU!

VOTE: PranaDevil
This is ew. Like seriously. Really really bad. I don't like his reason for the vote and the shades that he attempts to throw on Prana.
In post 514, All Alone wrote:
In post 414, Alisae wrote:They're harder to fake, no?
Either way, the fact you didn't want to pressure anyone is a red flag to me.
LOL fake scumreads are much,
much
easier for me.
When I'm scum I figure out fake scumread reasons on as many slots as possible just so I know what to say in advance if I want to change positions, and I usually don't even have to think about it
. It's way harder to come up with scumreads when I actually need them to be accurate.

And also I did want to pressure someone. But I had zero conviction to put behind any pressure I could have placed, and pressure without conviction is no pressure at all, to be honest.
Interesting you should say that. This is basically exactly what you did with your vote on LQ and Devil. Your two votes, and the reason for those votes, scream scum fake hunting. You're basically voting for people because they scum read you and/or don't like what they have to say about your slot. This is very anti-town. Your attempts to throw shades has duly been noted.
In post 515, All Alone wrote:
In post 410, PranaDevil wrote:So... AA and BBT do nothing of anything for ages, and charge right in and vote the person who called them out for doing feck all, sure, sounds legit.

If either of you have any sort of case though please share it with the class. Can hardly respond to votes when there's no content there. At the same time, reads on everyone else rather than tunnelling would also be beneficial to town. (If you're town it helps us hunt, if you're scum, well... it'll help the rest of us hunt)
In post 426, PranaDevil wrote: Just not a fan of doing nothing, then acting like someone's scummy and voting for them while providing no information.

However BBTs recent posting is fine, in understanding his reasoning I mean, as unlike me he was updating as he went, thus saw my few posts prior to that which very much could look like scum keeping their head down up to said wall. Perfectly fine reasoning. I'm going to say AA clearly doesn't have that reasoning as they quoted from said wall. Thus outside of OMGUS voting, I expect an actual case on me sooner than later from them.

Not going to say AA is scum for it, they may well have good reasons. It would be a bold scum move to charge in and go all guns a-blazing on someone with no votes, though I never completely rule things out.
These posts have convinced me that PranaDevil's push on me is a legitimate attempt to work out my alignment after all. I will therefore move on to OMGUSing the current worst push on me:

VOTE: LicketyQuickety
I do not like this post and I do not like this vote. Like not at all.


From my analysis, I have seen that in just 7 posts, he has produced low quality content and has made no attempt to scum hunt or solve the game. He has yet to post any reads or any analysis of his own. I seriously would not mind a policy lynch
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Post Post #562 (isolation #28) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:04 pm

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My town read on Gin has gotten much stronger. Also still strongly town read Shannon.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #29) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:05 pm

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In post 563, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 561, Alisae wrote:WOWIE! THAT'S 1 HELLAVA 180 MISTER!
Who this at? Context?
I believe it is @me in relationship to AA.
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Post Post #566 (isolation #30) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:06 pm

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I skimmed the thread when I first replaced in and missed some context/content. I was unsure of AA at first and now he is my biggest scum read.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #568 (isolation #31) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:07 pm

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My vote was not on AA. It was on someone else.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #32) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:09 pm

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Even if my vote was on AA, I'd still would have unvoted as I don't want anyone at L-1 right now.

P-edit: Nice shade throwing.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #33) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:10 pm

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Because I'm not ready to end the day yet.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #34) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:12 pm

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Why is that?
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Post Post #580 (isolation #35) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:19 pm

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In post 491, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 489, ThinkBig wrote:Lol. I have made those jokes before and even been mislynched because of it.
Links or it didn't happen.
To answer this post here:

Micro 662 made the joke with Pine during RVS. We were both town, though I replaced out later in the game.

There's another game, but since that's ongoing, I won't post the link in the thread.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #36) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:20 pm

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In post 581, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I WAS IN THAT GAME
Though you were killed before I replaced in.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #37) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:21 pm

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In post 578, Alisae wrote:Hey TB, remember this game?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8687489
I know you do because you have it in your signature.
You know the post I just linked? Huh, I wonder what you are doing right now.
You're literally arguing:

1. AA is low-hanging fruit
2. As scum, I go for low-hanging frut
3. Therefore, I am scum.

This logic is bad and you should feel bad.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #38) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:21 pm

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I also remember winning the game for town despite Alisae's paranoia :D
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Post Post #587 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:23 pm

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I'm not SRing AA for being low hanging fruit. I'm SRing him because he's scummy af. Why don't you respond to my analysis of him?
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Post Post #590 (isolation #40) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:26 pm

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In post 588, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:THINKBIG YOU JUST EXPLAINED A SOUND LOGICAL CASE AND SAID IT WAS BAD
Yes, because it was neither sound nor logical.
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Post Post #594 (isolation #41) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:33 pm

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In post 593, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 585, ThinkBig wrote: 1. AA is low-hanging fruit
2. As scum, I go for low-hanging frut
3. Therefore, I am scum.

Please tell me this doesn't fit the definition of inductive reasoning
As scum, I go for low-hanging fruit
AA is low-hanging fruit
Therefore, I am scum.
The conclusion does not follow, and cannot follow logically from the premise. It lies under the faulty assumption that town!TB does not/cannot scum read and/or go after low hanging fruit.
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Post Post #602 (isolation #42) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:53 pm

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In post 599, Alisae wrote:Hell, what's the town motivation behind not even putting their vote on AA but saying they are willing to PL it. Doesn't a PL take priority above all else?
Because my vote would be a hammer. Do you really want to end D1 now? Didn't think so.
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Post Post #604 (isolation #43) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:55 pm

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And he has 6 votes right now. At least the last time I checked.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #44) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:56 pm

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Actually AA is at L-2 now that alisae changed his vote. My point remains. Had I voted for him, it would have been the hammer.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:00 pm

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Devil. Though you're right. I did count LQ twice because he voted for him again after the vote count.

His wagon right now is:

All Alone - 3 (Lexa, LicketyQuickety, Devil)
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Post Post #609 (isolation #46) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:01 pm

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VOTE: All Alone

Make that four for AA.
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Post Post #611 (isolation #47) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:03 pm

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It was a vote miscalculation on my part.
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Post Post #614 (isolation #48) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:33 pm

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Here's where I'm at:

{LQ, Shannon}
{Alisae, Garmr}
{Lexa, Prana, Jordan}
{Pep, BBT}
{Karnos, AA}
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Post Post #616 (isolation #49) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:35 pm

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{LQ, Shannon, Gin}
{Alisae, Garmr}
{Lexa, Prana, Jordan}
{Pep, BBT}
{Karnos, AA}

I knew I was forgetting someone.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #50) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:36 pm

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Phone posting and tipsy.

Headed to bed. Night.
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Post Post #621 (isolation #51) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:54 pm

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In post 620, mastina wrote:You guys are really bad at counting votes..
That's why you're the mod and not us.
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Post Post #622 (isolation #52) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:57 pm

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@mod want me to give you a page top for a vote count?

<<< No, but I'll take it anyway! >>>
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Post Post #624 (isolation #53) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:58 pm

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Next post is the top
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Post Post #626 (isolation #54) » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:04 pm

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@ MOD You're welcome

Ok. Back to sleep
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Post Post #670 (isolation #55) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:16 am

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VOTE: Karnos

L-1


<<< Yes, this was in fact L-1. This time. >>>


Policy lynch.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #56) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:25 am

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In post 667, karnos wrote:Yeah okay, that is you. Still going to give XnadrojX a chance. Unless you speak for him?

Did he already tell you how to answer in scum chat?
Stop throwing shades.

I don't even think the scum team has day chat
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Post Post #674 (isolation #57) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:27 am

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In post 673, karnos wrote:
In post 671, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 667, karnos wrote:Yeah okay, that is you. Still going to give XnadrojX a chance. Unless you speak for him?

Did he already tell you how to answer in scum chat?
Stop throwing shades.

I don't even think the scum team has day chat
I'm VOTING XnadrojX.

Get your terms right.
^^Lynch this please^^

I know who you're voting for and you're throwing shades at everyone.

What terms am I not getting right?
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Post Post #696 (isolation #58) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:55 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #701 (isolation #59) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:12 am

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In post 697, PranaDevil wrote:Hold up, that last line I really, really do not like. If we let him live scum will NK him sounds like you know he's town and scum need him out of the way.
I disagree with that interpretation.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #60) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:33 pm

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In post 704, Garmr wrote:if karnos was really vengeful townie he would of hammered himself and then shot me or jordan. This is clearly a survival move because his afraid of a lynch.
This is a good point. I don't TR karnos and don't believe his claim. However, I am not sure we should end the day phase so early.

In post 708, LicketyQuickety wrote:Is anyone Town reading AA? If so Why?
No.
In post 713, Alisae wrote:Actually.
What we can do is we could leash who Karnos kills.
Suggest like 3 names for him to kill.
And then he kills whoever out of that pool.
Good idea anyone if the claim is real?
Who do you suggest that he kills?
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Post Post #726 (isolation #61) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:20 pm

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In post 725, PranaDevil wrote:To me it legitimately reads like Alisae actively knows karnos will flip town
Again, I disagree with this interpretation. Can you please explain why you think that he actively knows Karnos is town?
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Post Post #730 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:31 pm

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@Alisae: Have you ever played scum before? If so, can you please show me a scum game?

@Prana: No way a scum team would allow a claimed vengeful townie to make it into MyLo/LyLo. Alisae's argument is 100% valid. You're attempting to throw shades at him and I'm not liking it.
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Post Post #732 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:34 pm

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VOTE: PranaDevil

I really don't like the shades that he is attempting to throw on Alisae. His blatant misrepresentation of what Alisae was saying in order to read him as scum. Don't like that one bit.

P-edit: Excellent point, Gin.
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Post Post #739 (isolation #64) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:29 pm

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In post 736, PranaDevil wrote:Which again leads to me other issue... if he is scum, why would scum NK him? Are we suggesting we suddenly keep karnos alive to lylo on the basis of a single vengeful claim or something?
WTF? This makes no sense and I have no clue where you are getting this from. We are saying
if
karnos is town and is vengeful, then the scum team will probably kill him before MyLo/LyLo.

For the record, I don't believe his claim and I'm not town reading him, but I'm definitely not town reading you either.

More devil votes please!
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Post Post #742 (isolation #65) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:51 pm

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In post 740, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:These Prana votes are superrrrrr bad.
Please explain
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Post Post #762 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:12 am

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Intent to hammer.


Karnos, if you want to retract your claim, now is the time.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #67) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:13 am

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In post 759, PranaDevil wrote:If people are unsure if I'm scum or if karnos is scum if somehow he "is" a vengeful (he's not, and we all know this), then he should fire at me then you get rid of your other scum read as well.
UNVOTE:

This is town.
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Post Post #764 (isolation #68) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:20 am

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Here are my reads:

Town
:
{Shannon, LQ, Prana, Gin}

Lean town
:
{Garmr, Alisae}

Null
:
{Lexa, Jordan}

Lean scum
:
{Pep, AA}

Scum
:
{Karnos, BBT}


I initially scum read Prana for his push on Alisae. I didn't like his blatant misrepresentation of his argument and accusing him of being scum together. However, no way would scum say "If he's vengeful, then shoot me."

I still have a lean town on alisae. I've played with him in a few games and I'm used to his play style.

Shannon is bleeding town and love the analysis that she is doing. Never lynch her.
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Post Post #767 (isolation #69) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:36 am

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@MOD: I will be V/LA starting this weekend and next week. School is starting back for me on Monday.


<<< I am noting this as being Friday, January 27th through Monday, February 6th. If this is inaccurate, inform me. Please note that thanks to the given length, you will not be allowed to go without posting. I will still prod you after three days of inactivity. Being absent for nearly two weeks is not excusable. >>>
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Post Post #773 (isolation #70) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:02 am

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Permission to hammer?
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Post Post #775 (isolation #71) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:04 am

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VOTE: Karnos

That's a hammer.
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Post Post #776 (isolation #72) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:06 am

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With what I've seen from Karnos thus far, if he actually is town, then he is going to create a toxic atmosphere in this game.No problems with a policy lynch.
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Post Post #789 (isolation #73) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:49 am

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In post 787, karnos wrote:Thinkbig, if you have anything to say to change my mind before the thread is locked speak fast, soon it will be too late.
I'm not claiming, but it will be a huge mistake for you to vengekill me.

I'd rather you vengekill either Alisae or All Alone. If they're town, it'll save us from wasting a day on a mislynch.
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Post Post #810 (isolation #74) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:45 am

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mastina has been venge killed. He was the
mini normal 1873 game mod.
The game has ended in a
draw.

<<< *She >>>
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Post Post #821 (isolation #75) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:57 pm

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In class now. Will give my thoughts when I get back.
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Post Post #822 (isolation #76) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:04 pm

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Would like to lynch either Alisae or BBT today
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Post Post #826 (isolation #77) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:45 pm

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In post 824, mastina wrote:You know what I hate?
Being around when nobody else is, and not being around when everyone else is.
It's not so inconvenient as a player, but as a moderator, it can...get in the way.
I'm here, baby.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #78) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:50 pm

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VOTE: Alisae
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Post Post #831 (isolation #79) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:54 pm

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If you think I'm scum, then why did you OMGUS vote Devil? Do you to get PL'd as well?
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Post Post #833 (isolation #80) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:57 pm

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:facepalm: :facepalm:

I think All Alone made a good point. Why did you declare intent to hammer only to want to suddenly use the remanding 15 days, even after Karnos claimed vengeful?
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Post Post #843 (isolation #81) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:21 pm

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Read List
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{TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Shannon, LicketyQuickety}

{All Alone, Gramr}

{PranaDevil, Lexa}
BBT, Pep

Alisae


Spoiler: Key

Conftown

Town

LeanTown

NullTown

Null - {N}
NullScum

LeanScum

Scum

ConfScum
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Post Post #844 (isolation #82) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:21 pm

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In post 840, Alisae wrote:So you were wrong and you still tried to push it?
Wow, you must really want me to get mislynched

Either way, my flip isn't going to make anyone cry.
AtE.

Policy lynch this please.
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Post Post #847 (isolation #83) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:23 pm

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In post 845, Alisae wrote:if you think AtE is scummy you clearly haven't played with FA.

Why am I getting policy lynched again?
Same reason we PL'd Karnos.

BTW, you're at L-2.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #84) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:28 pm

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In post 851, Alisae wrote:Scum was voting me overnight and the fact that I'm getting lynched this early and that they rather lynch me and end the day quickly instead of scumhunting says something.
It's so fucking obvious.
Like, come on.
More AtE
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Post Post #857 (isolation #85) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:33 pm

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In post 855, Alisae wrote:
In post 853, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 851, Alisae wrote:Scum was voting me overnight and the fact that I'm getting lynched this early and that they rather lynch me and end the day quickly instead of scumhunting says something.
It's so fucking obvious.
Like, come on.
More AtE
AtE isn't scummy.
Try again.
Desperate scum is desperate.

Also, what did you do to XnadrojX last night?
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Post Post #863 (isolation #86) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:37 pm

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In post 861, Alisae wrote:
In post 860, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:TB is my number one town read sweetie
Do you think my wagon is all town?
Why the fuck would you ask this question if you are scum reading me and devil?
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Post Post #868 (isolation #87) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:47 pm

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No.
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Post Post #872 (isolation #88) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:50 pm

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In post 766, XnadrojX wrote: Prana and Shannon seems to be the most agreed on townread based on what is going on.
ThinkBig is a strange mix of scummy posts and townie posts. Don't really know how to read that slot.
Alisae just announced he's scum, and likely with karnos. Bringing off a lot of the votes off karnos was Alisae.
The fact that the wagon just dissipated like that indicates scum, probably a scumbuddy tried to derail.
I dunno about AA, he hasn't made enough posts for me to properly get a read on him, leaning scum for now I think.
That thing from Lexa is NAI, can't blame inconvenient timing looking opportune imo. (Unless I'm too trusting of people which I doubt)
There still was no reason to vote BBT over karnos, karnos still stood as the scummier person.
Speaking of karnos, the claim was shit. I doubt he actually a Vengeful townie (unless Vengeful Mafia but I've never heard of it) it looked a lot like a self defence move to me.

This is the best you're gonna get out of me for the weekend.
Interesting.
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Post Post #875 (isolation #89) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:52 pm

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Nice OMGUS, Alisae.

Now answer my question.
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Post Post #880 (isolation #90) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:55 pm

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Yes, in fact, not once did he actually vote Karnos. Despite scum reading him and declaring intent to hammer.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #91) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:59 pm

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Alisae, why do you lie so much?
In post 513, Alisae wrote:tbh I have Karnos in the middle because I'm clueless as to what's actually going on with him and why people are SRing him.
In post 690, Alisae wrote:
In post 686, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Nah, Karnos is a great lynch.

He is trying to scare away a potential hammer by saying he might shoot them.
You're not wrong. He is a great lynch.
Is he trying to scare away a potential hammer? Nah. I think we have more time to spend and we could be looking elsewhere, that's all.
Plus if we do decide to let him live, scum will just NK him.
In post 705, Alisae wrote:Garmr that's cool an all, but we have 15 DAYS LEFT!
In post 713, Alisae wrote:Actually.
What we can do is we could leash who Karnos kills.
Suggest like 3 names for him to kill.
And then he kills whoever out of that pool.
Good idea anyone if the claim is real?
In post 680, Alisae wrote:
intent to hammer

This is where you claim.
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Post Post #888 (isolation #92) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:00 pm

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In post 886, Alisae wrote:Um I don't remember things.
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Post Post #896 (isolation #93) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:10 pm

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Alisae, you know why I am hard scum reading you? It's because you have shown absolutely no logical progression in this game and because you have voted for almost every single player alive. You are throwing shades at every single person who is scum reading you. Also, your OMGUS on Devil and myself sucked big time.

Spoiler: Alisae Vote History
In post 96, Alisae wrote:
In post 91, XnadrojX wrote:PEdit: clearly you need to go back to a Newbie game for people to take your analysis seriously.
ewwww
In post 28, Alisae wrote:VOTE: Nydrusher
Already caught scum in pre-game lmao.
In post 55, Alisae wrote:
In post 52, PranaDevil wrote:LQ definite town due to not paying enough attention to who's in the game to even direct a vote correctly? Sounds like a plan to me.

vote: Alisae
for reasons. (Hint, they aren't good reasons)
I'm being bullied and I would like to know the reasons ;~;
In post 100, Alisae wrote:VOTE: LicketyQuickety
Choo Choo
In post 210, Alisae wrote:okay I ISO dived and by dived I mean skimmed.
I'm probably conf biasing you cuz now you're asking good questions that are meant to progress the game or atleast advance it so you're probs town.
Jordan seems strange in that he was attacking LQ's shitty logic but he thinks he's town?
That seems strange to me.
So I'm voting there now
VOTE: Jordan
In post 287, Alisae wrote:Oh no I shitposted. I must be scum...
Yeah, actually bring up a case on me that doesn't use the word "Shitposting" because that's NAI.
And if you actually wanted to be smart and do #research you'll notice that games I start in on I usually shitpost a lot.

pedit: Is this scum AA?
I think it might be.
Here, have a vote
VOTE: AA
In post 569, Alisae wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHA

Scum!TB goes for low hanging fruit.
VOTE: ThinkBig
In post 695, Alisae wrote:I second the motion
VOTE: BBT
In post 737, Alisae wrote:His play leading up to the claim is fine. If anything he was just trying to get SR'd so he can do his thing.
You're suggested that I slipped that Karnos is town. I didn't. I said scum would probably NK him because they probably don't want to risk him hitting scum if he were to get lynched.
You're pushing a slip that isn't a slip. That's a scumtell for me.
VOTE: PranaDevil
In post 827, Alisae wrote:This is a blatant OMGUS vote.
VOTE: PranaDevil
In post 873, Alisae wrote:So when I flip town we're lynching ThinkBig.
He probably legitmately tried to kill jordan to frame me.
VOTE: ThinkBig
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Post Post #900 (isolation #94) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:14 pm

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In post 96, Alisae wrote:
In post 91, XnadrojX wrote:PEdit: clearly you need to go back to a Newbie game for people to take your analysis seriously.
ewwww
In post 210, Alisae wrote:okay I ISO dived and by dived I mean skimmed.
I'm probably conf biasing you cuz now you're asking good questions that are meant to progress the game or atleast advance it so you're probs town.
Jordan seems strange in that he was attacking LQ's shitty logic but he thinks he's town?
That seems strange to me.
So I'm voting there now
VOTE: Jordan
My read on you switched after karnos' flip and after re-reading the interactions between you and Karnos. My read on you also started to change this day phase when you spewed out shit against Devil and myself.
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Post Post #901 (isolation #95) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:14 pm

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Didn't mean to quote those. My mistake.
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Post Post #902 (isolation #96) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:15 pm

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In post 899, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:ThinkBig, are you saying Alisae killed Jordan?
No. It was a reaction test.
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Post Post #906 (isolation #97) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:17 pm

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In post 905, Alisae wrote:
In post 902, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 899, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:ThinkBig, are you saying Alisae killed Jordan?
No. It was a reaction test.
More bullshit.
Same types of reaction tests that you have done in your games. You mad that I ripped a page from your play book?

You're obviously a flailing scum.
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Post Post #909 (isolation #98) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:29 pm

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In post 907, Alisae wrote:The only words that are coming out of your mouth are buzzwords.
The irony
'Buzzword' is itself a Buzzword, therefore it is now possible for scum to acheive an easy lynch on someone by indicating that they are using buzzwords and the buzzword of buzzword will get them lynched.
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Post Post #910 (isolation #99) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:30 pm

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Alisae's attempt to cast shades on me once again has been duly noted.
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Post Post #913 (isolation #100) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:38 pm

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In post 912, Alisae wrote:ThinkBig is also probably scum because he knows I don't respond well under pressure so he's using that to his advantage to make me look even worse.
It's a scum tactic.
More shade throwing.

Alisae, have you played scum before? If so, can you please post one of those games?
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Post Post #916 (isolation #101) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:42 pm

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Fair enough.
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Post Post #917 (isolation #102) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:56 pm

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The final vote count from day 1
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karnos
- 7 (Garmr,
XnadrojX
, BlueBloodedToffee, PranaDevil, All Alone, shannon, ThinkBig)

Vote history from the end of day 1
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karnos
: 10 - Garmr,
XnadrojX
, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, BlueBloodedToffee, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, PranaDevil, ThinkBig, All Aone, shannon, ThinkBig
Alisae
: 7 - Garmr, LicketyQuickety, PranaDevil,
XnadrojX
, nydushermain, shannon, shannon
LicketyQuickety
: 6 -
karnos
, Alisae, PranaDevil, shannon, ThinkBig, All Alone
All Alone
: 5 - Lexa, Alisae, LicketyQuickety, PranaDevil, ThinkBig
nydushermain/TheRealGin-N-Tonic
: 3 - Alisae, All Alone,
karnos

XnadrojX
: 3 - shannon,
karnos
, Alisae
PranaDevil
: 3 - All Alone, ThinkBig, Alisae
shannon
: 2 -
karnos
, LicketyQuickety
ThinkBig
: 2 - shannon, Alisae
BlueBloodedToffee
: 2 - TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Alisae
Garmr
: 1 - KTthecreeper
Pepchoninga
: 1 - TheRealGin-N-Tonic

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Post Post #920 (isolation #103) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:01 pm

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Reason?
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Post Post #921 (isolation #104) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:12 pm

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If Alisae flips scum, I want to look at garmr
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Post Post #923 (isolation #105) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:16 pm

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In post 922, Alisae wrote:
In post 921, ThinkBig wrote:If Alisae flips scum, I want to look at garmr
Everyone who defends me must be scum.
Am I right?
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Post Post #925 (isolation #106) » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:20 pm

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All what I said is that if you flip scum, I want to look at him. Never said he was definitely scum.
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #107) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:06 am

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Yuck. I absolutely hate the LQ wagon. I hate everything about it. We need to slow down today.

I am hard scum reading garmr. I hate how he derailed the Alisae wagon. I hate how we rushed it and didn't even give LQ a chance to defend himself.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #108) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:19 am

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@Garmr, how do you know Alisae is town?
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #109) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:19 am

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I think scum is between Alisae/Garmr/BBT. I really don't like BBT's hammer. He has contributed very little to the game.
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #110) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:30 am

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Truth.
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #111) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:37 am

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All Alone was a surprising kill. Though the fact that he had a power role shows that the scum team probably detected him. I fully support lynching Alisae today.

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Post Post #1032 (isolation #112) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:38 am

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VOTE: Alisae

I hate phone posting
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Post Post #1036 (isolation #113) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:28 am

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Shannon is a strong town read of mine. That clears BBT. Thanks for clearing him as I was unsure about him.
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Post Post #1037 (isolation #114) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:29 am

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Now that you pitted your results, Garmr is even more of a scum read
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #115) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:30 am

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I think we will learn a lot from Alisae's flip. I'd Alisae is scum, then I want Garmr lynched. No ifs ands or buts
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #116) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:32 am

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LQ was widely scum read day 1 and was probably pushed by scum. I think you probably should have investigated him day 1
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #117) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:36 am

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Let's try and form a solid town block and try to eliminate possible scum mates from the remaining pool.

@Garmr, I still think you are scum. Sorry.
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #118) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:37 am

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In post 1042, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I town read him so freaking hard tho, I knew in my SOUL that he was town and then Garmr told me why LQ could be scum and I liked the smell of it and took off lol
I began to town read him mid day 1. That's why I try to stick to my gut reads.
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #119) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:38 am

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In post 1046, Garmr wrote:
In post 1042, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I town read him so freaking hard tho, I knew in my SOUL that he was town and then Garmr told me why LQ could be scum and I liked the smell of it and took off lol
Also fuck you for putting all the blame on me. I am town I don't know who's who i can only guess. If my case didn't make sense then lq wouldn't of got lynched. It's LQ on fault he played bad.
I think we still learned information from the LQ wagon and his flip.

Also, why do you still have Alisae as town?
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #120) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:39 am

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In post 1048, Garmr wrote:
In post 1045, ThinkBig wrote:Let's try and form a solid town block and try to eliminate possible scum mates from the remaining pool.

@Garmr, I still think you are scum. Sorry.
Knowing your town only makes me fucking angry at your shitty case.
Your reaction to my FOS and SR on you makes my scum read on you even stronger.
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #121) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:41 am

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In post 1051, Garmr wrote:
In post 1049, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1046, Garmr wrote:
In post 1042, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I town read him so freaking hard tho, I knew in my SOUL that he was town and then Garmr told me why LQ could be scum and I liked the smell of it and took off lol
Also fuck you for putting all the blame on me. I am town I don't know who's who i can only guess. If my case didn't make sense then lq wouldn't of got lynched. It's LQ on fault he played bad.
I think we still learned information from the LQ wagon and his flip.

Also, why do you still have Alisae as town?
Becuase of this game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=4100
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #122) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:42 am

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You think my play is shorty and yet you're the one who is town reading someone based on a previous game? Give me a fucking break.
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Post Post #1059 (isolation #123) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:52 am

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All meta is bullshit.
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Post Post #1060 (isolation #124) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:55 am

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Of the games I have played (mostly offsite)) 9/10 of the lynches based purely off of meta have been mislynches.
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Post Post #1065 (isolation #125) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:17 am

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Eat this

VOTE: Garmr

I don't like how passive agressove Garmr is right now. With how awful Karnos played, I absolutely see scum bussing him. I was scum in a game and both of my buddies hard bussed me on day 1.
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #126) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:17 am

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"Look at me, I lynched scum! I'm so town." That's literally your argument and it sucks bad.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #127) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:19 am

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You know why town reading Alisae based on meta is bullshit in this case? Because there is no scum game (yet) for which to compare it to.
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Post Post #1070 (isolation #128) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:24 am

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Defending two mislynches yet also spearheaded one and almost tried to push another.
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #129) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:25 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1073 (isolation #130) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:37 am

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^^ And was trying to push another one.
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Post Post #1076 (isolation #131) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:44 am

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In post 1075, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1068, Garmr wrote:You know what if your going to be that ungrateful for me actually hunting scum and actually defending against two mislynches i'm replacing out.




You ruined the game for me think I was a vanilla townie learn to play *u**.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #132) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:53 am

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Goodbye.
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #133) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:53 am

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VOTE: Garmr's replacement
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #134) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:55 am

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I'd be happy lynching either Garmr's slot or Alisae. Both flips will give us good information.
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #135) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:55 am

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Garmr's reaction felt like Karnos 2.0 (sorry buddy). At least he didn't claim vengeful.
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Post Post #1084 (isolation #136) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:23 am

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VOTE: Alisae

I actually think this is better for now I want Alisae lynched yesterday
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #137) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 4:56 am

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Oh really and who is that on?
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #138) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:44 am

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I believe that's L-1. I will be fine with a hammer.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #139) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:51 am

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He was probably hoping to pull off a reaction test and didn't realize the cop already claimed. It's telling that a Alisae still hasn't given his "results"
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #140) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:58 am

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In post 1096, Alisae wrote:I was waiting for a miller claim.
But this is just as good.
VOTE: Lexa
Full claim now.
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #141) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:01 am

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We lynch Alisae and then if he flips any type of cop role then we lynch lexa. Also @Alisae, why did you investigate Lexa over me?
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #142) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:03 am

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The fact that Alisae is active elsewhere and not here after claiming a guilty speaks volumes
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #143) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:12 am

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Fun, feel free to hammer
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #144) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:23 am

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I want a claim from lexa and Alisae before the hammer. If Alisae flips scum, I want Gramar's slot lynched.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #145) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:03 am

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Feel free to hammer Alisae.
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #146) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:07 am

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^^Lynch this yesterday
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #147) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:07 am

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Why were you trying to bait miller claims? How do you even know there is a miller?
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #148) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:09 am

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Yeah that's why you voted Lexa, right?
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #149) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:22 am

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In post 1116, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:VOTE: alisae

mastina he did a thing!
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #150) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:24 am

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@Gin, target gramar's slot tonight
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #151) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:24 am

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Yet another quick day. We are one blood thirsty crowd!
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #152) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:25 am

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Alisae, can you flip yourself?
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #153) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:26 am

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Sorry for stealing your page top, oh great and awesome mod.
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #154) » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:27 am

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Or maybe you spelled mafia goon wrong?
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Post Post #1140 (isolation #155) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:58 pm

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Interesting night kill. We need to slow down.

Gin, who did you target and what was your results?
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #156) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:59 pm

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I really don't want another rushed lynch.
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Post Post #1143 (isolation #157) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:01 pm

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We should stick to our gut read. The LQ lynch was one of the worst I've ever seen. Seriously. How did you lynch someone so quickly before giving them a chance to defend themselves? I do think, however, the Alisae lynch was still justified.
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Post Post #1146 (isolation #158) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:03 pm

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Yeah. I think the Mafia made a mistake in killing him instead of one of us.
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #159) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:03 pm

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In post 1145, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1108, Lexa wrote:Vanillager
What does this mean?
Vanilla
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #160) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:04 pm

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Yup.

Please let me know who you targeted and the results. They are super important.
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #161) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:05 pm

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Sweet. So she was lying about being vanillla. A Neapolitan can only get a vanilla result on actual townies.

Lexa, you need to claim.
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Post Post #1153 (isolation #162) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:06 pm

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VOTE: Lexa

I want to hear from her. If she is a power role, I want her to claim it.
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #163) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:08 pm

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Also if we mislynch today, then tomorrow becomes MyLo.
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #164) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:10 pm

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In post 1156, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So a neo-shot, does that mean a person just isn't a power role or is it "a person is not a town aligned no power role"?
It means that the player is NOT a vanilla townie. They could still be a townie with a PR.

Also, a mafia goon does NOT show up as a vanilla.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #165) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:10 pm

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In post 1157, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:The Wiki tells me that she can't be a vanilla townie but does that mean she could have a power role and be town?
She can still be town, but she is not a VT.
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Post Post #1161 (isolation #166) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:12 pm

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Why do you think the scum team chose to kill BBT over you or me? BBT was contributing very little to the game and had very few original thoughts.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #167) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:14 pm

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It could be scum theatrics as All Alone was also a surprising kill. Perhaps they could not be tied to someone in the game if they were to die?
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #168) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:16 pm

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In post 1163, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1161, ThinkBig wrote:Why do you think the scum team chose to kill BBT over you or me? BBT was contributing very little to the game and had very few original thoughts.
It's a sign that reads=shit

hence, why I'm re-reading
I'll also take some time to re read later today.

I'm glad you and I are confirmed town. We can basically operate as masons without a PT.
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Post Post #1168 (isolation #169) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:18 pm

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I'll re read later and pay special attention to the karnos debacle. I think the key to solving the game could lie within that interaction.

Also if we say Karnos/Lexa then who is the third?
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #170) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:20 pm

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In post 1167, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
P-Edit: Yeah that's what I'm pretty much doing with it. I saw your work when you replaced in XJordanX's last mini and you did phenomenal, so lets go for a repeat.
Thanks!! Definitely one of my best games. Micro 676 also one of my best.
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #171) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:20 pm

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In post 1169, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Well Pepboy will be able to talk today and we get his input and really, I have no clue :p
I have no idea what to think of pepboy. He contributed little and is basically lynchbait.
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Post Post #1176 (isolation #172) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:28 pm

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Lol. What do you think of pepboy?

<<< I can't tell you that! I am the moderator. >>>


Also, would you mind revealing who the scum team is? If will make this game much easier.
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #173) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:29 pm

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In post 1175, mastina wrote:Maaaaaaaaybe. :shifty:
ROFL! I <3 you Martina. Best mod ever!!

<<< I'd accept your <3 if you could spell my name correctly. :cry: >>>
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Post Post #1180 (isolation #174) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:31 pm

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Lol @Mod deleting her own comment.

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Post Post #1181 (isolation #175) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:36 pm

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In post 1179, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 1175, mastina wrote:Maaaaaaaaybe. :shifty:
ROFL! I <3 you mastina. Best mod ever!!

<<< I'd accept your <3 if you could spell my name correctly. :cry: >>>
Damnit I hate auto fail! Anyway, I found a picture of mastina online.

Spoiler: mastina
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<<< Odd. The first result *I* get for searching mastina is this one. >>>
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #176) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:40 pm

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Ok that's enough shit posting for now.
In post 1183, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 22, karnos wrote:VOTE: shannon

This vote doesn't count yet, consider this a note to self on who is obviously scum.
Not going to lie I'm starting off my search here because I always feel like scum want to be cheeky early game.
Interesting. Shannon has been an overall strong TR though. Is it possible he was voting for his buddy early on? Something to consider.
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #177) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:40 pm

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In post 38, karnos wrote:VOTE: shannon

Makin' it real.
His first real vote. Also on shannon.
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #178) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:43 pm

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In post 165, shannon wrote:
In post 139, Garmr wrote:
In post 138, shannon wrote:
In post 117, Garmr wrote:
In post 114, Alisae wrote:You said you were his partner trying to derail the wagon hehe
don't mind me just a joke.
Lol oh k Still kinda don't get it through.

What do you think about XnadrojX/karnos/liquity/ through?
I would like to hear more of your opinions through because you sheep a lot of noticed. Sheeping isn't bad as town since there are times town need to sheep. But it's always good to have some independent thought. It helps me in a variety of ways if all the players are actively posting with their own thoughts. Since I thrive in those scenarios.
The phrasing here seems quite stilted and unnatural. Not sure whether it's natural style, early game awkwardness, or scumminess.
Probably a little bit of natural style and something else(not scum or early game awkwardness.).

I was a little conscious of that post through I'm kinda amazed you picked up on that. I rewrote that one like 3-4 times before I was satisfied with it. Originally it was going to be "what did you think of my case on karnos?" Instead of the highlighted section. But then it occurred to me that alisae is a player that will sheep their town reads. I didn't want to contaminate alisae's answer with my own thoughts. I wanted to see what type of answer alisae would produce and if I could get anything information on his alignment out of it.
OK, so what did Alisae's answer () tell you, if anything?

For my two cents: I am town reading Alisae, for things like post . I appreciate Alisae for calling out Lickety for being so OTT in his misguided pursuit of me. I think it's generally towny to ask follow up questions like Alisae did. The suggestion that it might have all been a misunderstanding () seems like an attempt to get to truth and not a scummy attempt to slander.

But XJordan's response in took it way too far. His counter to Lickety looked way OTT, not to mention opportunistic. I did find it ironic that he told Lickety to go back to the newbie queue, then committed the cardinal newbie sin of answering a question that was directed at someone else.

The weird bit - Alisae asked XJordan to 'wagon it' with him, and Jordan didn't do so. And Karnos voted Lickety straight after. Jordan, meanwhile sticks with his RVS vote on Alisae. Gut feel is that Jordan was afraid of looking opportunistic for voting Lickety. My vote was RVS on Jordan, but now it's serious.

Revote so it comes up in the Mod's VCA stuff:

VOTE: XJordan for serious this time

<<< Actually, the way my votecounts work is that only changes in votes get noted. If a player casts multiple votes in a post, only the one at the very end counts; if a player changes their vote in one post, but immediately switches back in their next post, I still note the change; if a player doesn't change their vote at all and just revotes for emphasis, it doesn't get noted.
There is a slight exception: if a player unvotes someone, and in that same post, votes a different player, I will mark the unvote. However, if a person is merely unvoting who they are already voting and revoting that person, I will still not note it. >>>
In post 216, shannon wrote:
In post 210, Alisae wrote:okay I ISO dived and by dived I mean skimmed.
I'm probably conf biasing you cuz now you're asking good questions that are meant to progress the game or atleast advance it so you're probs town.
Jordan seems strange in that he was attacking LQ's shitty logic but he thinks he's town?
That seems strange to me.
So I'm voting there now
VOTE: Jordan
So hang on: You were the one who originally brought up Lickety's reachy case on me. Jordan continued on with that case. Now you're town reading Lickety, but you're voting Jordan for doing the same thing you did? Not cool

VOTE: Alisae
In post 367, shannon wrote:
In post 321, LicketyQuickety wrote:And I have no problems with Prana's case on me except one thing. I said now twice now my read on Shannon is ongoing. Its still fucking early and some people are going to take more time to read than others. Lexa not providing shit and then going on V/LA until Tuesday is an example of that. But besides that, because people have different styles that means that some people are going to be easier to read than others.
Yeah but isn't your read on everyone ongoing, all the time? Looks to me like you're trying to hedge your bets a bit, leaving the option open to lynch-me-or-not depending on where the popular current goes.

This is the thing I don't like about your play: You make a push, go at it hard, and then retreat to 'yeah but it's ongoing so IDK'. I'd prefer it if you'd just left that last part out and kept a scum read on me, if you think I'm scum. I'm actually becoming more convinced that *you* might be scum. In fact, have a vote.
VOTE: Lickety
In post 337, Lexa wrote:
In post 135, Alisae wrote:Fine. I'll be patient and wait look a good child.
The condition for my posting reasoning for my vote on All Alone has now been fulfilled. That condition was All Alone posting so as to see possible reaction / lack thereof in response to my vote.

*snippy*

Posts from AA/Alisae have been my focus since game start, I'll likely wall post later in the week after I come off low activity and have been able to take some time to reread the thread and consider posts at more than face value.
I think you're probably flying very close to the wind by mentioning an ongoing game. Also, you voted in RVS, or very close to it, so why expect any kind of AI reaction from Alisae at that point, at all? It looks like you've been reasonably thorough (based on the part I snippied out) so I'm going to lightly town read you for that. Please don't wall post if you can help it. It's much easier to keep up with the game little bit by little bit, than to re-read a few days' worth at a time.

Also interesting to note of shannon. Both Karnos and Shannon were heavily pushing Jordan and Alisae from day 1. The LicketyQuickety vote appears opportunistic.
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #179) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:44 pm

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In post 806, Lexa wrote:Sorry folks, got through my full thread analysis but ran out of time to look at the vote count and isos before work. So much for waiting to hammer eh? Assuming the mod locks the thread some time in the next 9 hours (and that I'm alive to d2) I'll have the wall post ready to go for d2 start.

Can provide my reads list based on the thread as a short-term substitute.

So-towny-it-hurts: {shannon, PranaDevil}
Moderate-town-lean: {LQ, jordan}
Null-town: {Garmr, ThinkBig}
Null-scum: {Alisae, Gin, BBT}
Moderate-scum-lead: {All Alone}
Lynch-them-already: {pepchoninga}
In post 933, Lexa wrote:As promised, game review pre-jordan flip

Posts that I don't reference I either think are irrelevant to the game or full NAI, or I missed it

Spoiler: Game flow comments
Shannon gets a slight town-note due to karnos's vote in 22, retrospectively considering his flip the RVS vote would be less likely to be on a scumbuddy.

Alisae slight scum points for 28, pushing obvious sarcasm as a scumslip to create a wagon. All Alone shares the scum points for jumping on the wagon at 32.

LicketyQuickety's 80 is a bad post but with towny reasoning.

Jordan's 86 is super weird. Like, really really weird. I don't understand how he goes from being uninvolved with the conversation/quote wagon to attacking LQ as aggressively as he is, especially without putting down a vote. All of his wording here feels like it's designed to create pressure out of nothing given a lack of escalation beforehand, yet not putting a vote down suggests that it's not coming from a place of legitimate belief. Moderate scum points.

Garmr and LQ are unlikely scumbuddies

Given the flip, Jordan looks townier for this, that's a heavy bus to push that early in the game.

138 was a post I took notice of early game. Ime scum are less likely to bring in outside sources of hunting so shannon pointing out awkward phrasing reflects well on her. A second look does suggest that garmr's post is weirdly written, though hard to draw specific inferences from that other than a note to watch for other future posts.

shanon is so obv town it hurts. Support for scum!jordan

188Bussing a scumbuddy? Or misdirecting the wagon? Given previous thoughts Jordan looks good as town.

The irony of 199 with the earlier discussion about misspelling being a scum tell is amusing. NAI though.

shannon pls marry me

Jordan at 219 continuing to bus karnos, he's approaching lock town as karnos was the only major wagon at this point and bussing his so hard would be hugely irresponsible for scum imo. Really hard to see this as scum theatre.

<3 LQ for being open minded about WIFOM as a legit hunting tactic

Gin at 245 possible distancing from scum buddy? Note to investigate.

By 259 I'm not liking Pep's lurking. No content to this point and this post adds no new information while directing the game towards a relatively likely tvt interaction.

Note to self: lots of posts by gin, little contribution by 271.

PranaDevil's 279 is NAI for me but the depth of content reflects well on their interest level being one I would expect town to have. Very slight town points.

All Alone still looks like shit for 285

Note to self: would be lovely if I could get a read on Alisae, so many posts with so little to definitively grab onto

Liking LQs analysis in 327. Garmr has been giving me a weird vibe I can't put my finger on yet from his posts to this point so I appreicate LQ helping me not think I'm crazy.

My 337 placing a FoS on All Alone.

My 348 with mild suspicion on Gin. Rereading the thread I maintain the suspicion to this point, Gin has been acting very similarly to how I've seen experienced scum act on my home site per the actions laid out in that post.

Prana's 365 and shannon's 367 are both slight-towny

Really liking LQs explanations of his alternative ways of analyzing things as in 373

Gin is really bugging my weird strings. The whole stretch of posts leading up to 389 is so odd. I can see scum!Gin latching onto LQ as someone getting town read and attempting to link LQs credo to his own by suggesting they "town-jam" together. Without having pushed much in the way of town posts hismself I can't see where town!Gin makes that suggestion.

And then more theory speak over game speak at 394! All these small things have added up into a small scum lean on Gin.

Disagree with whoever said that AAs 399 was towny, his reasoning isn't good and countering with the expectation of being held to his votes is as basic as it gets. NAI.

And of course 400 is hilaribad

Really dislike BBTs 403. Mostly because this is the first post that I actually notice of theirs. 16 pages and all you have to contribute is that you've picked up town reads? Retrospectively this post has a strong scent of scum active lurking. Small scum lean.

And Prana is totally right for calling out AA and BBT at 410, though the post itself is NAI.

Alisae's 415 is interesting actually. On the surface I would have completely missed it because it aligns with my internal narrative against AA but taken on its own this could easily be Alisae either directing a mislynch or distancing from a scumbuddy. Slight scum points to Alisae.

asfghasfghg

Note to self: brain slowing down, careful with future reads.

Jesus how has pepchoninga gone unnoticed? 434 he says "this is my playing". He hasn't contributed anything and somehow isn't getting read or pressured!!! I have imagine
someone
on the scum team would have noticed and pushed him by now. Moderate scum points given here.

IN POST EDIT: Upgraded to major scum points, popped my head into his iso and holy fuck someone vote his ass.

Confirmed my read on the above, the posts leading up to 444 are such obvious attempts to bus the top wagon in karnos and gain town points. And then immediately flip flops at 451 giving karnos a softball set up to deflect pressure away from him. Pep is top scum read at this point.

SelfNote: ThinkBig subs in here

All NAI from thinkbig so far. TB can you tell me what WOTC means from here? I'm taking a wild guess that it's not wizards of the coast.

Dislike 474, easy way to set up scum theater if it goes unpunished. Probably less likely than the other possibilities so far though.

I disagree with LQ at 487 but his posts have increasingly solidified a town read.

AAs 514 reads towny, but it being purely a defense post means it could easily be scum defense as well. Still no contribution of content. Gin's 518 following up AAs 514 is both accurate and recements the FoS into a moderate scum read on AA.

shannon and Prana, still town af from 536/542

ThinkBig's 545 is a very curious moment. Calling L-1 when it was actually L-3 could easily be a simple error but I don't like the way it immediately halted the AA wagon.

Gin's 558 looks very towny on the surface, not something it seems like a lot fo players had considered. That being said, also very easy for a scum to use that theory to direct the "town finder" to a scum on the wagon. Confirms my previous read that Gin is being very surface town with potential scum motivations.

Alisae's 569 only makes sense if they town read AA or are scumbuddies with him.

I really like LQs defense of ThinkBig following the above post, in particular 600. I really appreciate his alternative methods and they seem very town oriented to me.

Garmr's reasoning in 627 is very towny, especially in light of the flip. Albeit I disagree with his conclusion but the logic required to get there is very good.

shannon is the best. 637 is (yet again) super super towny. No reason for scum!shannon to post those associations based on voting history and provides excellent future reference points. Interestingly, reinforces the idea that AA and Alisae could be scumbuddies from 569.

jordan and karnos concludes around 650 and on reinforces that jordan is probable town barring scum theater to distance jordan from karnos.

Prana at 719 pretty much locks them into town with shannon. So much town bleeding from this post.

All Alone's 752 through 758 continue to be pure reactionary response that could easily come from either alignment with a lack of added content that would suggest them as town. Maintain scum read.

Spoiler: ISO comments
Nope, life got in the way


Summary:

So-towny-it-hurts: {shannon, PranaDevil}
Moderate-town-lean: {LQ, jordan}
Null-town: {Garmr, ThinkBig}
Null-scum: {Alisae, Gin, BBT}
Moderate-scum-lead: {All Alone}
Lynch-them-already: {pepchoninga}

Alisae+AA possible scum team
Lexa, if she is scum, has been strong town reading shannon from the start of the game. Also, her push on Alisae, AA, pep, and others, appear opportunistic and low hanging fruit.
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #180) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:45 pm

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Karnos/Shannon/Lexa as a team does make sense. Though I'm still trying to sort out Gramr and Pep.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #181) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:47 pm

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Ugh. Now I'm starting to get paranoid. Gin, what are your thoughts on a possible Karnos/Lexa/Shannon team?
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #182) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:51 pm

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@Lexa, why did you lie about being VT and why do you TR Shannon?
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #183) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:53 pm

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Also of interest, Karnos does not mention Lexa one time in his ISO. Not sure if that is significant or not.
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #184) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:04 pm

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In post 1194, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 536, shannon wrote:Let's not give TB too much credit here.
It's pretty easy to look townier than the slots who are lurking
. Here, TB, have a 'welcome' vote VOTE: Think Big
This was shit and looked hella opportunistic
Indeed. Completely overlooked that. The bold and underline is really
really
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #185) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:09 pm

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I really hate to do pre flips associations and lining up lynches, but do you think it is possible that neither of us are dead because we both have had a TR on Shannon and leaning town/null town on Lexa?
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Post Post #1202 (isolation #186) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:12 pm

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In post 1198, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1197, ThinkBig wrote:I really hate to do pre flips associations and lining up lynches, but do you think it is possible that neither of us are dead because we both have had a TR on Shannon and leaning town/null town on Lexa?
Well if you keep a cop alive and a conf!town alive...
Indeed. Which is why I'm getting slightly paranoid and questioning reads.
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Post Post #1205 (isolation #187) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:31 pm

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I can definitely see what you mean. His scum ISO seems to be more casting shades and seeing what sticks whereas his town ISO is far more in depth.

@MOD: It has been more than 14 days since Pep has last posted. Can we please prod him?
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #188) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:33 pm

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Though I'm still null on Pep. He hasn't posted since the end of D1. I want to hear a lot from him before I can solidify a decent read on him.
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #189) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:33 pm

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In post 1206, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1205, ThinkBig wrote:@MOD: It has been more than 14 days since Pep has last posted. Can we please prod him?
This sounds fucking funny af
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #190) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:39 pm

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Here is another scum game from pep.
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Post Post #1213 (isolation #191) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:41 pm

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Lol :D though I thought I'd provide the link for those interested.

I still hold that all meta is bullshit and don't want to scum read him over a very weak meta read.
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Post Post #1215 (isolation #192) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:43 pm

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Same here. It's almost 2 AM and I need to be up in 3 hours. Good night.

Let's focus primarily on Lexa today.
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Post Post #1216 (isolation #193) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:49 pm

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Post Post #1219 (isolation #194) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:12 pm

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Understand. Sorry for butting heads with you last DP.
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Post Post #1221 (isolation #195) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:15 pm

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In post 1213, ThinkBig wrote:I still hold that all meta is bullshit and don't want to scum read him over a very weak meta read.
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #196) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:17 pm

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Have you read what Gin and I have discussed so far? How do you feel about Lexa and Shannon, especially after Lexa has been found to
not
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Post Post #1225 (isolation #197) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:25 pm

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1. shannon
3. TheRealGin-N-Tonic

5. Pepchoninga
6. Lexa
8. ThinkBig

10. Garmr

13. PranaDevil


Lexa, pep, and shannon are the only real possible scumspects left. Despite our back and forth yesterday, I do think you're town and I do think you were evaluating the position from a town PoV
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Post Post #1226 (isolation #198) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:26 pm

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@Garmr, would you mind claiming?
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #199) » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:32 pm

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Claim List


1. shannon - No claim
3. TheRealGin-N-Tonic - JOAT (1-shot cop, 1-shot gunsmith, 1-shot neapolitan)
5. Pepchoninga - No claim
6. Lexa - Vanilla (found to be false by neapolitan)
8. ThinkBig - Vanilla
10. Garmr - Vanilla


13. PranaDevil
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