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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:48 am

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Votecount 2.3


[2] KainTepes (CloudKicker, Stormcloud)
[1] Aj The Epic (Transcend)
[1] CloudKicker (KainTepes)

[3] Not Voting (Aj The Epic, Parama, CommKnight)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:45 am

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kain is just such a blatantly obvious mislynch though
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:43 am

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In post 904, borkjerfkin wrote:
[5] Syryana (Transcend, KainTepes, CloudKicker, CommKnight, Parama)

[2] KainTepes (Stormcloud, Syryana)
[1] Transcend (Golden Robster)

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I really hope you're joking Transcend. Because there's only 2 people who weren't on Syr, Storm and Golden. Storm is town, we know that and we know there is at least 2 mafia. Which means it is impossible for Syr's entire wagon to be town.

The wagon on Kain was gaining support too easily. I'm still under the impression Transcend is town. I need to ISO Kicker, Parama and Golden. But I'm getting the growing feeling that Kicker and Golden might be the two we're looking for because I town-lean on Parama as well with Storm being clear and Kain being that guy that's a bumbling fool but the wagon on him grew too fast to be a scum-lynch.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:06 am

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Not sure what you mean by the wagon growing too fast. Lots of people have expressed annoyance and doubt about him, but only two people are actually voting for him right now, and one of them is me. I do agree that if there's no opposition to that lynch that would make me nervous, but right now there is some and the wagon isn't exactly taking off. That's actually what I was hoping to encourage with my vote - some opinions on Kain if not some actual content from Kain himself.

I think Transcend said he thought there was one scum on and one scum off the wagon, so something like
Golden-Kain
Golden-Kicker
Golden-Parama
Golden-Comm
(if we assume Transcend is town for a moment)
There's obviously at least one scum on the wagon as Syry, implosion and myself are all now confirmed town. Could be two.

Can you explain why you like Parama? I'm with you on Transcend but I'm suspicious of Parama and I want to know what you like about him.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:35 am

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In post 977, CommKnight wrote:I really hope you're joking Transcend. Because there's only 2 people who weren't on Syr, Storm and Golden. Storm is town, we know that and we know there is at least 2 mafia. Which means it is impossible for Syr's entire wagon to be town.

What are you talking about? I literally just said that there's at least one scum on that lynch in my pov.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:36 am

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Mostly the reason he changed on Transcend and how he acted afterward. I hated his early D1 play but that might just be nothing to really go on.

Pretty much everyone was piling on Kain until it was noticed no real resistance to the wagon was given by anyone.

So in my opinion a Kicker-AJ team is highly likely. There's always the slim chance one is town and another scum is actually in Transcend-Parama-Kain, but for now I'd say at least ONE scum is between Kicker and AJ. Just having trouble with sorting which one is the better choice today.

If we can get the scum from the two, then we can look at past interactions from other players on that slot. Honestly AJ's slot (which was the Golden/Gamma slot) feels like the most likely to flip scum. Golden and AJ barely put in any effort and Gamma didn't post even when he returned, buying his slot more time.

Is there a case against Parama that you can make Storm? If not, then I think Kicker-AJ are the best two to look at today.

Fastposted by Transcend.

Yes, but you said it like there was a chance it was a full town wagon on Syr. From ANYBODY's POV.
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:39 am

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I'd love to know why storm suspects me too since I already disproved the only argument I've heard him say against me
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:48 am

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I guess I can't explain it that well - it's largely gut really.
I don't honestly like the AJ lynch for today. But unfortunately that's also gut without any real explanation, so I don't think I can really contribute much here. I agree him and Robster look scummy, but there's just something that's bothering me about it.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:53 am

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Touche but i didn't consider anyone else's pov. But you're right.
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:53 am

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What were implosion's dying reads btw
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:58 am

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Ok, did a little reread.
Transcend, you said a little while back that you put a vote on Robster and no one followed, unlike the Syryana wagon. Does that make him more likely scum to you? Just trying to follow that logic.
I feel like if at least one, maybe two scum are within the more active players right now, both Kain and AJ are easy mislynches.
Comm is obvtown to me right now.
Transcend is just below that with Kicker.
Then AJ and Parama - both are pinging me in weird ways
I still dislike Kain a lot but I see the easy mislynch argument if he's town.
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:03 am

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Not sure I'm allowed to quote but here's a quick summary:
-We chatted about Parama saying he wouldn't believe the mason claim unless he already read me as town. I thought a bit about what motivation Parama would have to make that post at all. Seems irrelevant really given that he did read me town and therefore believed the claim, so that post was just kinda weird.
-He had Parama as gut town.
-Said Robster/AJ is an easy mislynch if town
-Said he's not really convinced on Transcend - says he's scumtold more than most people.
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:07 am

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Huh you seem to be trusting your own judgment then.

I agree with imp that Parama is gut!town.
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:14 am

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Well we seem to have a 4-way consensus here then. With Storm, Trans, Para and me all agreeing the others are town.

Sadly I once considered Storm could be mafia, but the mod said it wasn't a bastard set-up. I've had games where one mason is town and one is mafia. It's too much of a bastard set-up though without cops and other roles to counter such a set-up.

So we're left with a Kain, AJ and Kicker pool. Care to explain why Kicker is town to you Storm?
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:17 am

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Honestly on reread, besides Kain, no one is really touching Kicker.

VOTE: CloudKicker

This is the only person I'm comfortable with lynching since Implo thought AJ might be easy mislynch and Kain makes sense as an easy mislynch and yet everyone else is town-lean. So going for the one out based on process of elimination and no one going after him hardcore really at all.
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:26 am

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The speed of the wagon is nai btw since everyone had a read on the guy
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:28 am

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In post 989, CommKnight wrote:Honestly on reread, besides Kain, no one is really touching Kicker.

VOTE: CloudKicker

This is the only person I'm comfortable with lynching since Implo thought AJ might be easy mislynch and Kain makes sense as an easy mislynch and yet everyone else is town-lean.
So going for the one out based on process of elimination and no one going after him hardcore really at all
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i do that a lot with success, its just not happening here tho and you shouldnt undestimate trans nor cow apparently
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:28 am

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that's an untruth. Only people I'm particularly townreading at the moment are storm and kain, tbh
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:28 am

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My gut is really telling me to lynch Comm tbh
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:30 am

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Also youre talking about wagon speed, it was really just my 2nd sr and mainly a vote to get reads than who i really wanted lynch, then clear!storm voted with me, such a scum wagon amiright : ) you say theres not any resistance to the lynch, but actually im the only non-clear who wants him, parama called it a lowkey ml, you just went out of your way to fos the guy fosing the guy fosing you and trans is ignoring my reads on cow and going avec aj
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:31 am

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I really want to hear more from aj's slot
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:32 am

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So Kicker, in mind that there's 2 scum alive right now, do you really believe both scum to be in Kain and Trans?
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:35 am

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lol where did you get that
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:36 am

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also i want to hear from aj before anything, kain has to give content too if he doesnt want to get lynched
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:49 am

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Sorry I normally do silent re-reads, since a lot of shit changes. Can someone give me a summary of Kain as a player? Is this fluff shit usual? I've heard rumors, but it's far worse than Dunn. It's also slightly relevant to what Stormcloud mentioned early on, in understanding if Kain needs help getting into scum games more than town games.

Also Transcend I've never seen you attempt that style of reads up until this game (the ones I quoted as bologna)
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