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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:02 am

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@Comm I'm townreading Kicker over Parama right now. That said, my feelings on Parama are mostly gut and might be somewhat playstyle based. implosion did have a gut town read on him and seemed to think his confidence is normal and NAI.
If we aren't lynching Kain and AJ due to fear of them being easy mislynches, then I'm not actually sure who we are lynching. I'm not sure there's anyone else we all agree on.
Transcend and I both like Kicker and Comm, so those seem unlikely.
Don't see any kind of real support for a Parama lynch, although he is in Transcend's pool.
Kain is super obvious mislynch bait unless he's doing this on purpose, but that gets WIFOMy real fast.
AJ just hasn't done anything yet and neither did Robster really. Pretty useless slot, but again easy for scum to push on.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:05 am

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@AJ yes, it's very normal. At the start of the game I'd say he was being downright helpful and lovely. His arguments with Comm and myself were super town. He seemed happy to be in the game and generally eager to scumhunt.
I can't explain the sudden shift. If he's town, he needs to come back and stop being mislynch bait and contribute like on day 1. If he's scum, this is the weirdest sudden playstyle shift I've ever seen.
I'm actually considering that maybe he has RL stuff going on and his long absences and contentless posts might be NAI, but I have no proof of that ofc.
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:19 am

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Yea he kinda changed his pace, i pointed it out in my catchup @rubic
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:23 am

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Votecount 2.4


[2] CloudKicker (KainTepes, CommKnight)
[2] KainTepes (CloudKicker, Stormcloud)
[1] Aj The Epic (Transcend)

[2] Not Voting (Aj The Epic, Parama)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-02-03 23:15:00)
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:28 am

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Aj it's fine to do a silent reread but you still have to actually provide content
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:11 am

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In post 1004, Parama wrote:Aj it's fine to do a silent reread but you still have to actually provide content
Especially on a day that is pretty quiet. You had plenty of time to reread by now.

I liked Kain's early D1 as well, but yes, he has changed lately. Which seems to make him easier to mislynch and the other slot because of the lack of content from it.

Kicker's slot is Tweet remember. As I said before, Tweet could be dangerous D2 as scum.
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:19 am

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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:42 pm

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In post 1005, CommKnight wrote:
In post 1004, Parama wrote:Aj it's fine to do a silent reread but you still have to actually provide content
Especially on a day that is pretty quiet. You had plenty of time to reread by now.

I liked Kain's early D1 as well, but yes, he has changed lately. Which seems to make him easier to mislynch and the other slot because of the lack of content from it.

Kicker's slot is Tweet remember. As I said before, Tweet could be dangerous D2 as scum.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:42 pm

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this game bored me to death, all my game are pretty boring or got finished today zz
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:07 pm

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So just an instinct read: I think stormclouds is scum. This is odd because it's specifically during a time Transcend was blatantly townreading Stormclouds where I got this feeling (pages 8-10). The interaction with Syr didn't feel good. Stormclouds was proclaiming how she had so many townreads, and couldn't find scum. Started talking wtih Syr and professed Syr was her biggest scum read. Specifically 193
In post 193, Stormcloud wrote:Yeah. I'm honestly kinda sad that I'm scumreading you - I like you as a player and I don't want you to turn out to be scum lol.
But gotta separate emotion from reads as much as I can.
Which Transcend said was 'town gold', I felt quite the opposite. It was a hollow post, that's just AtE with nothing more to it. It's a complexity of weird saying/actions as Storm, who has stated the game is overall town, won't interact properly with Syr (in the sense that she's bringing a bias out into the discussion initially) WHILE SITTING A VOTE OF COMMKNIGHT. Her two scum reads are Transcend and Syr, not CommKnight.

Basically, I'd expect a line of thought as such:

-To have a vote on CommKnight over professed scum reads, scum reads must not be strong. It's scummy regardless, but this is justification
-To not listen to someone as possible town, a scumread must be strong.
-Options are vote on Syr, have that bias or no vote, believe a strong possibility to be town.

And the oddity of a late "I'd vote transcend OR IMPLOSION for pressure" [[but am afraid of lolhammer]] is off. A.) That still leaves Syr and obvious vote and B.) that still leaves CommKnight not in her top 4.

So it kinda brings me to the suspicion I've got with transcend on what game he's reading because I don't remember him doing this wackass d1 associative scum read shit in any other game. In fact, I'd sooner expect him to look very town than random as town. These two would be my early read scum grouping.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:04 pm

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Ima take this as a t slip for today

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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:06 pm

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actually not a tslip if scum has no day talk
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 9:06 pm

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anyway i doubt its coming from scum, it would be too gimmicky
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:42 pm

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Yeah I'm not moving my vote
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:11 am

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uhhhhhhhhhh
have you read the entire game yet AJ?
it's a normal, normals can't have scum masons
implosion has flipped and he confirmed I was the other mason yesterday
you said you were doing a silent reread, so I thought you were at least like halfway through at this point
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:16 am

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And yes, AJ I didn't move my vote for a very long time - I just didn't feel enough confidence to. I also ended up changing my read on Syry later on. I'm pretty sure you've probably noticed this by now in your reread but I'm new to the site and fairly new to the game so my actions may not always be 100% what's expected from a "normal" player.
CK, scum have no inherent daytalk - they could have an encryptor though. I'm not gonna take that as a tslip from you since I'm guessing you're aware of both of those facts.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:29 am

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KainTepes was prodded.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:26 am

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In post 1014, Stormcloud wrote:uhhhhhhhhhh
have you read the entire game yet AJ?
it's a normal, normals can't have scum masons
implosion has flipped and he confirmed I was the other mason yesterday
you said you were doing a silent reread, so I thought you were at least like halfway through at this point
No. As to why it's so slow, I'm currently working full time with college, so today is my first true day off.

But... why are you the second mason? Your suggestion to vote implosion makes no sense in that context (I thought about the possibility, but it seemed unlikely given the implosion soft hint)
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:44 am

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The plan for me and implosion (we got to chat in pregame) was that we'd try not to reveal day 1 unless necessary (i.e. it looks like one of us is the likely lynch target). So, I didn't want to inexplicably townread him early on - I tried to give a reasonably honest read on him as if I didn't know his alignment so that scum hopefully wouldn't suspect anything odd there.
Obviously after we reveal I would no longer pretend to consider scumreading him.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 4:59 am

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VOTE: AJ

literally arguing in favor of lynching the mason AFTER he's been outted as mason. don't even humor this.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:01 am

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for context:
AJ argued in favor of lynching the mason before he knew storm was mason
now that he knows Storm is mason, he is... still arguing in favor of lynching him.
because AJ is playing the game where scum have static reads and his entire previous argument was completely destroyed by this so he doesn't know what the hell to do.
there is zero reason to doubt storm is mason. implosion has flipped. nobody has cced mason, and if they did now, we'd string them up in a heartbeat.
so this really has no motivation to come from town.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:22 am

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Giving AJ the benefit of the doubt, I think he's more questioning how I played the situation, saying that it was weird that I would say I would vote for my mason partner and that I was lightly scumreading him. While I'd love to chat with AJ in the postgame about why I played the way I did and what I could have done better, that's really not relevant to the game right now given later events.

I'm curious as to why he asked why I'm the second mason - obviously in the situation where both masons confirm each other and then one flips, the other is confirmed. I think I was fairly clear that implosion confirmed me as the other mason before he died, and implosion would have no reason to lie about it - for one it's against his win condition, and for another if he was lying the real other mason would have come forward.

I'm not gonna jump on it as a scumtell quite yet but I agree it's bizarre behavior.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:35 am

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UNVOTE:

im gonna be waiting for pinkcow slot catchup
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:50 am

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I have a strange feeling you'll be waiting for a long time...
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:52 am

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Also I do not like that unvote. AJ wasn't at L-1 so no real danger of quickhammer given we aren't yet in Lylo - it would be suicidal if AJ flipped town. We have plenty of time left - why not pressure AJ to clarify his catchup posts and defend himself?
Consider this a FoS: Kicker as I don't wish to put anyone at L-1 yet.
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