Mini Normal 1874: Camping Trip Mafia (Game Over)

[Sickofit1138]

Hey most of you all are new faces. I'm excited to get to know you all!

Nadpool, lucca and sensfan! Hi!

Let's get this started, shall we?
VOTE: Massive

Ssbm_Kyouko and I are mason buddies so I'm gonna sheep her this whole game

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Why would you vote a pr claim so early out the gate? I find that highly suspicious

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Why would you vote a pr claim so early out the gate? I find that highly suspicious

More importantly.

Why would you fake claim mason?

If it's not a fake claim, why the fuck would you actually claim mason and out your partner?

I can't speak for innocent but i certainly didn't believe your claim so for me, him voting you wasn't even mildly suspicious let alone highly suspicious

Damn we're gonna have problems I can tell already.

In answer to you question:

"I didn't choose the thug life. The thug life chose me"

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Crap, sickofit.

Lolita Is that supposed to mean? You don't hate me THAT much do you?

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Yeah we're going to have problems if you don't answer questions you've been asked. So can you like answer my questions?

Yeah just answer my questions first.

First question: what is your favorite color? Mines blue.

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Yeah we're going to have problems if you don't answer questions you've been asked. So can you like answer my questions?

Look we're gonna have big problems if you don't answer my question.

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The Taylor Swift gif is back!

Do I know you?

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OMGUS.

VOTE: Two Face

Mason buddy, vote with me please.

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Dang my wagon grew fast.

And kyouko you're ruining my fun!

This is rediculous!

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Lolol please.

Why do you think I would fakeaim mason?

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Not knowing and not knowing not caring doesn't come from a town mindset...

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Two face I don't like playing with toxic players. Saying that I should be avoided to play with is not ok in my book.

I nred to remind you that we were literally in RVS at the point of the fakeclaim and at the point of my voting somebody who voted me. I think that should be fairly obvious when looking back. That is not playing against my wincon... which brings me to my next point....

I'm not quite sure why your stuck in this one thing. And believe it or not, that fake claim accelerated us out of RVS. Whether you like that or not. Actually, the fact that you are conf biasing on me is slowing the town down more than my fakeclaim was.

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I do feel like Two face is town at this point. Town with the wrong motivations.

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If you think he's town then why's your vote still on him?

Thank you for pointing that out.

UNVOTE:

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You are not focused on anyone else. You are death tunneling me for shit reasons. That is what I meant by that.

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That's funny cause it seems people are saying you are one.

That's not what people said at all actually, they said I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box.

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And you are certainly not looked upon will by me by keeping us in this circle. I highly encourage you to get out of this tunnel and hunt for actual scum.

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Btw you didn't answer my silly question either should I be scumreading you?

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Why would you vote a pr claim so early out the gate? I find that highly suspicious

More importantly.

Why would you fake claim mason?

If it's not a fake claim, why the fuck would you actually claim mason and out your partner?

I can't speak for innocent but i certainly didn't believe your claim so for me, him voting you wasn't even mildly suspicious let alone highly suspicious

Pretty sure my context from my posts has been enough for you to understand the answer on this one. It was RVS.

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Off i can't think of anyone off the top of my head... and I need to go to bed as well. I'll hopefully pop in tomorrow sometime and reread.

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Right now my top biggest reads are

Town - Lucca, TwoFace, Sensfan, and Shannon.

Scum - Matt, Fykus.

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I should probs vote.

VOTE: Matt

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Nah Lucas probably town

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Gut read and meta read.

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Gut read and meta read.

I can't argue with the second reason. Which posts are giving you that gut read?

Just overall not really a specific post.

In our last game we were at each other's throats... I don't think as scum he would defend me... especially if already had a wagon on me.

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That would be

weird

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Matt probably isn't scum. There is no reason for scum!Matt to post 154 considering the game state.

Why not? In my experience, posts like 154 are scumtells. Specifically "Guys, why is this game so slow?"

Saw rb do it in JaeReed's mini normal 1857 and he flipped scum.
Saw Eric Rasputin do it in Open 660 and his replacement later flipped scum.

Haven't seen anyone make a post like that and flip town

+1. Even I've done this as scum but can't think of a time doing it as TOWN.

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Why not? In my experience, posts like 154 are scumtells. Specifically "Guys, why is this game so slow?"

Saw rb do it in JaeReed's mini normal 1857 and he flipped scum.
Saw Eric Rasputin do it in Open 660 and his replacement later flipped scum.

Haven't seen anyone make a post like that and flip town

This scumtell is great

You're cherry picking.

And are you an alt?

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^^^

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Then again Sick having super bad reads, bad logic, and sheeping others arguments would be scummy for anyone else, but sadly it resembles what I've seen from skimming several of his town games.


TwoFace why do you want a Sick lynch so early? If Sick flips town then we basically accomplished nothing today. Why are you so focused on Sick's slot and basically ignoring everyone else?

How do you know my reads are super bad? Just cuz their different than yours? Or because you

know

that my reads are bad

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You're cherry picking.

And are you an alt?

How am I cherry picking? You are taking a statement I said that was NAI, and saying it's a scumtell, and saying "Haven't seen anyone make a post like that and flip town" so I proved you guys wrong. Not cherry picking at all.

And no I'm not an alt.

And by your logic IF (and im not) cherrypicking then both of you are cherrypicking too. Kyouko showed only 2 examples, and you showed none. So what point were you trying to make exactly?

Whoops I actually made a mistake.

I thought 157 was from you...

What I was trying to say was that you were just picking 4 games that supported your point....

My bad.


And ftr... I don't think it's necessarily a tell for either side since it is WIFOM

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So who's your top scumread now?

@Sickofit ^

Off i can't think of anyone off the top of my head... and I need to go to bed as well. I'll hopefully pop in tomorrow sometime and reread.

VOTE: Fykusl

I'm fine with my vote being on Fykus right now. Matt and TwoFace were other potential scumreads, but Matt's page 5 is solid and TwoFace can easily be extremely confbiased town.

aside from that, I feel like we need more content. where is kyouko? where is shannon? where is lil?

doing a small readlist now:

- TOWN
Sensfan
Massive
Loopdan
Sickofit
Lil
Shannon
Kyouko
TwoFace
Matt
Fykus
- SCUM

when Innocent and Soul come to play, they will be placed at the readlist. feel free to ask any questions.

Right now my top biggest reads are

Town - Lucca, TwoFace, Sensfan, and Shannon.

Scum - Matt, Fykus.

This didn't look good at all to me.

Umm

Why not? After this page my reads have actually gotten stronger with that you pulling the lynchbait card, fykus' weird posts. Actually you two are the most likely pair. And just because my reads are similar to another persons reads doesn't mean anything at all.

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Town:
fykus
matt

scum:
???

UNVOTE:

!!!!!

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btw 15 makes the mason claim not a joke as he implied it was.

No ignore doesn't... next time I'll try to make it drop with even MORE sarcasm

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btw 15 makes the mason claim not a joke as he implied it was.

No it doesn't... next time I'll try to make it drip with even MORE sarcasm

EBWODP

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Oh i have a great sense of humor. I don't see what's funny about attacking a person for not voting in rvs.

i'm fully aware nad hasn't done anything of value but when 2 people have done things I perceive to be scummy and then proceed to do nothing of value, that trumps just just being useless

Other than "defend" the first guy you tunneled on, what have I done that was scummy? If it's this ...

VOTE: massive
You've been on site way too long to find not rvs voting suspicious.

... you and I are going to have a long talk post-game about growing a sense of humor.

Tell me about it

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@Shannon

How come you said my claim was scummy but you never voted me?

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@Shannon

How come you said my claim was scummy but you never voted me?

See you aren't even paying attention. If you're not scum town is going to lose because of you.

Shannon did vote you.

Let me rephrase. She's never pushed me mostly just argued that fake claiming is scumnu and then throws shade not makeung a real case. She switched to Matt then fykus. But I feel like she has more posts saying that fake claiming is scummy rather than pushing who she is voting.

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Yeah I'm pretty ducking shitty.

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Like if you were town you would have seen she made her post about fykus, then was asked about fake claiming masons. She again was asked for examples, and then she responded with her explanation.

It's like you are deliberately trying to twist her posts into a negative light, and that's suspicious as fuck. And damn you for making me even attempt to defend Shannon cause she certainly doesn't deserve defending.

No I just think you don't quite understand what I'm getting at. She's not pushing her read at all. At least you are pushing your reads, even though they are wrong. But she's hopping the votes but not really committing to that read. That was the point I was really trying to make.

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Yeah I'm pretty ducking ahitty.

EBWODP

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Ugh. What the hell is this game? I feel like there's so little of value despite having 12 pages.

Unvote

. TF and I don't agree, but at least he's engaging people now and looks like he's making an effort. That's more than I can say for like half of these people.

Yay! <3 Love you!

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Until I see some better play from Shannon she has my vote.

VOTE: Shannon

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Oooh and PS I worked out how to use the site search

Here is Elyse saying that she has fake claimed masons as scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8322607

What's the point? The mason claim in that game flipped town.

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Oh great here we go again lucca

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VOTE: Fykus

Let's get this over with

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You want me to be scum???? Lol

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Fykus has played the Newbie card at least 3 times, and his posts are non-commital to his scumreads. They are also very wishy-washy. "This person is suspicious... but it could just be... and I'm a newbie here so... etc."

Are you not in favor of the Fykus wagon two face?

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Already said I'm not voting anyone else but my top 2 scum reads. Glad you pay attention

Allow me to rephrase.

Do you dislike the Fykus wagon?

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UNVOTE:
For now

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Already said I'm not voting anyone else but my top 2 scum reads. Glad you pay attention

Allow me to rephrase.

Do you dislike the Fykus

wagon

?

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Why don't you explain why you put him at l-1 without reason and without announcing l-1

I made a mistake?

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I fee like I've given you answers to your question yet you keep asking me.

You still haven't answered my question and now your dodging it.

how do you feel about the Fykus WAGON

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Omg

I get you think Fykus suspicious.

I get it your not joining the wagon

What do you think about the wagon itself... as in the people on the wagon

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@sicko, 426: this is scum. Sicko read the Matt post about his vote not being on Fykus or him, and instead of answering the good post, just went there and voted Fykus, to see if people would forget. Sickofit is scum.

@twoface, 430: that was L-1? looking worse and worse for Sicko. not moving my vote. can we get a wagon on him, please?

@fykus, 441: a claim here means fucking nothing. thinking you are scum, pal.

and the game is twoface vs sicko again. cool.

don't like the Sicko unvote when we have a closed setup. this claim means nothing.

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@sicko, 450: why is your question relevant? it's an important question to ask, but we didn't even get a flip. we can't analyse it yet.

@kyouko, 456: non-content from kyouko again. good. your only content on this game so far is weed based. don't do drugs. do proerd.

Because its important to get answers now to look in hindsight after the flips are made? Why are you questioning this exactly?

Btw I'm actually getting so fucking pissed off that two face can't answer my question and give me a chance to "actually gamesolve". Literally all of your ISO is screaming that I'm scum cuz I'm not gamesolving... but your not going to answer my questions? Bullshit.

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@lucca

Or... and I know this kinda sounds crazy but... I could just be voting my scumread? Idk?

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btw I'm

not

getting lynched today... I promise you that.

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Massive or Matt are both ok lynched today.

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VOTE: keyenpeydee

V/LA this week. Will try to be on when I can

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So fmpov, I think we should lynch the scummiest person, and so far I think shanon has been giving the weirdest vibes mainly because she's like, not really sounding genuine in her tone and that makes me feel like she's hiding something which is usually a characteristic of a mafia, so I'd like to lynch her, however I feel like that twoface vs sick fight was pretty town versus town which I see a lot and I am prtty sure that us doubling down to lynch sick after twoface flipping town doesn't really mean sick is scum, so I think people pushing it are pretty suspicious

Ok yeah this is 100% scum

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Btw if he had actually read the thread he would have seen the player list, and he commented on me and twoface before he asked.

That quoted post is soo bad and it feels like he hasn't read and his scumbuddies just told him what to say.

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Is that because of the shannon suspicion or defense of you?

Neither. That post reeks of scum.

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I'm a watcher. Now get the fuck off my wagon

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Visited SSbm, who was targeted by Fykus.

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I hadn't read thouroghly enough to read that fykus said he had targetted shanon, but no matter the case I have a result on him.

We either lynch fykus today or tomorrow, your choice.