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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:17 am

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Hey guys I'm back
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:20 am

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In post 2219, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey's play feels like he expects to win. That points to his buddy not being Cass. Maybe I'm reading him wrong.

Tbh my reads have been really hit or miss since I took a several month hiatus and I'm scared that I'm misreading this.

I'm going to go back to reading and see if I can't get a clearer read.
I'd personally just throw out everything post-guilty from -grey-
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:26 am

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<_<

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Game is hard.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:27 am

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Hey guys, I want everyone to agree to no-lynch when it gets to mylo
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:28 am

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There's still an insane amount of reasons to townread Schadd's early play but man do I not like what he's been doing today.
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:29 am

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those two things might be connected
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:30 am

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If Rask thinks that you might be scum then NLing is the worst possible scenario because that just guarantees that I get NKed and Cass gets lynched. So presumably not.

I'm not going to agree to NL under any circumstance here and I'm going to be pretty upset if I get nked and town loses a LyLo that I could have won.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:32 am

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I think I'll just try once more today and we can end the day tonight or tomorrow for sure, I won't drag this out
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:34 am

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i don't really see the issue with schadd_'s play today?

like the possibility that grey could have bussed him hard today since he was going down anyway is something that's crossed my mind but i don't really see it
Raskolnikov wrote:I think I'll just try once more today and we can end the day tonight or tomorrow for sure, I won't drag this out
tyt my life's slowed down significantly so i don't mind either way
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:37 am

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so GBT you think it's grey/cass right?
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:38 am

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In post 2309, Raskolnikov wrote:so GBT you think it's grey/cass right?
i can't see anything else but i'm not confident on it and i would like a little dialogue

basically my thoughts on cass in general is that i don't like what she pushes/finds alignment indicative but her tone still feels really genuine

associatives are a crapshoot from my pov so i don't really care about them
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:41 am

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why are associatives a crapshoot from your pov?

also why do you clear RC? schadd is maybe new but RC is pretty good at scum and afaik you're judging everything on like one time seeing him?
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:45 am

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In post 2311, Raskolnikov wrote:why are associatives a crapshoot from your pov?

also why do you clear RC? schadd is maybe new but RC is pretty good at scum and afaik you're judging everything on like one time seeing him?
there was that one quote i posted that i think never comes from a grey partner in my iso i can pull up

and my read isn't really that meta-based i still think RC's day 2 was town. bad at explaining but i could try?

associatives are a crap shoot from my pov because grey distanced with all three of his partners which we earlier said was uncharacteristic for him
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:48 am

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In post 1970, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 919, RadiantCowbells wrote:Grey is town but holy shit your reads man.
ok so this is SvS interaction we assume

this comment seems like a signal that rc doesn't like grey's pushes in that case

why stream-of-conciousness post about grey for that purpose when you plan on quickhammering?

it's not a thought process that makes sense
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:51 am

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In post 2312, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:grey distanced with all three of his partners
with all 3?
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:51 am

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In post 2314, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 2312, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:grey distanced with all three of his partners
with all 3?
of his theoretical options yes
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:55 am

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Wait yeah there's literally no way that it's Schadd. He wouldn't have jumped off Cass to push a mislynch on his buddy in dueling wagons.
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:58 am

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I thought it was "-grey wouldn't bus" but now it's being taken as though even a bit of distancing is too much lol.

Not to mention, couldn't his partner just have requested him to distance a bit? Would -grey- just ignore something like that if his partner wanted a bit of it planned?

I really don't know much about -grey- but there has to be some truth in the meta if both RC and giga bring it up :?
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:59 am

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In post 2317, Raskolnikov wrote:I thought it was "-grey wouldn't bus" but now it's being taken as though even a bit of distancing is too much lol.

Not to mention, couldn't his partner just have requested him to distance a bit? Would -grey- just ignore something like that if his partner wanted a bit of it planned?

I really don't know much about -grey- but there has to be some truth in the meta if both RC and giga bring it up :?
i mean i was saying he doesn't like to distance/throw shade as his partners even

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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:01 am

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The Schadd bit was more than distancing though. He had an opporutnity to hammer ThinkBig but instead chose to enable his partner being L-1ed and in a situation where he could simply say that he refuses to be on the same wagon as Cass.
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:02 am

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Okay, so, if grey acted unusually towards all potential partners we obviously know he changed things up this game.

I guess the next step would be to think why.
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:03 am

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Does -grey- know that both of you know his "no-bus no-distance" meta? Is it reasonable he expected this to come up?
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:04 am

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I mean if he's playing with someone who he knows knows his meta aka GBT then he's obviously going to change up his meta. Or if partner!GBT told him about it and he decided to change because of it.

Then again if he knew GBT would assume that he would never distance him flying into the game voting partner!Cass makes a lot of sense.
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:06 am

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i don't think grey knows the extent of what i believe his tells are until i've said them now so idk if he'd change up his play to reflect that
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:08 am

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I think Grey not bussing is sufficiently well known that if you guys are friends he would expect you to know about it. Not sure if he would expect me to know since I only remember seeing scum!house once.
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