Open 665 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over! Town Victory!!!

-Grey- · Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:49 pm

In post 944, Grendel wrote:Is Grey just _shockingly_ less observant as mafia then he is as town? Do you really think that Town!Grey is more likely to pick up on things you're saying then Scum!Grey?

Imo, most players are as observant as one alignment as another. I'm pretty sure you're just seeing what you want to see and not what's there.

Dude, it's not even that.

I DID read the post Ali pointed out, and we BOTH stated my take on that post.

He's fabricating his read on a lie about what I was doing.

Why would town make that kind of assumption instead of ask my opinion of the post before going all ham?

Alisae · Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:50 pm

In post 950, -Grey- wrote:Why would town make that kind of assumption instead of ask my opinion of the post before going all ham?

Oh I don't buy that you think I would genuinely do this Grey.

-Grey- · Post Post #952 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 3:52 pm

Idgaf what you have to say, scum.

Grendel · Post Post #953 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:37 pm

Alisae

, why aren't you working with me here?

I asked you to explain your read on Moz, but you're just homing in on Grey.

I'm telling you that your case on him is bad, and that you should not waste time on this.

@Grey

-Grey- wrote:
In post 944, Grendel wrote:Is Grey just _shockingly_ less observant as mafia then he is as town? Do you really think that Town!Grey is more likely to pick up on things you're saying then Scum!Grey?

Imo, most players are as observant as one alignment as another. I'm pretty sure you're just seeing what you want to see and not what's there.
Dude, it's not even that.

I DID read the post Ali pointed out, and we BOTH stated my take on that post.

He's fabricating his read on a lie about what I was doing.

Why would town make that kind of assumption instead of ask my opinion of the post before going all ham?

I don't nesserly understand why he'd do that as either alignment. He looked liked he was too excited and off is rear.

In post 936, -Grey- wrote:
In post 853, Alisae wrote:I'm okay with becoming a Lynch All Liars PL if people are still holding that page 1 reaction test against me.
A Mason could easily say this to fish for Scum to vote them because they know they'll never actually be lynched.

Fucking duh.

Quit assuming that I'm not reading simply because you don't know my thoughts.

I see now, you did read it, but interpreted it differently.

Why would scum!Alisae assume what you are going to do/act where as town!Alisae wouldn't, or not to this extent?

I don't find Alisae's actions very typical for scum these last few pages. By outing that he is not infact a mason he would lost you as a shield. Wouldn't be able to incriminate you tomorrow in the event he was lynched. Plus by directly fighting you he would be willfully increasing your scum read vs playing it off, and or deflecting. All while being dangerously close to being lynched.

Alisae · Post Post #954 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:39 pm

Oh you asked me things. Didn't see it cuz #walls.

In post 937, Grendel wrote:You're saying that this was where you were trying to tell Grey that you weren't a mason?

It wouldn't surprise me if he skipped over it tbh. If he thought you were a mason then he was probably panicking to save you skin, and not paying much attention to what you were saying.

If he were scum Grey why would he bother defending you at all when he could just stand by and whach you get lynched?

A. It was moreso I was confirming about lieing about being a mason.
B. Cuz he thought I was a mason.

Alisae · Post Post #955 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:39 pm

also TRing Moz cuz I like their tone.

Grendel · Post Post #956 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:44 pm

In post 948, mozamis wrote:grendel prob town
wrong, but prob town. faking that sort of shit as scum is hard.

Outside of my read for you specifically what do you feel is wrong with my reads?

Are the reads you've been hold apply retroactively?

Ei, same reads as last time.

Alisae wrote:also TRing Moz cuz I like their tone.

Insightful... :/

Alisae wrote:Oh you asked me things. Didn't see it cuz #walls.
In post 937, Grendel wrote:You're saying that this was where you were trying to tell Grey that you weren't a mason?

It wouldn't surprise me if he skipped over it tbh. If he thought you were a mason then he was probably panicking to save you skin, and not paying much attention to what you were saying.

If he were scum Grey why would he bother defending you at all when he could just stand by and whach you get lynched?
A. It was moreso I was confirming about lieing about being a mason.
B. Cuz he thought I was a mason.

Oh yeah, he would want to get on your good side if you thought you were a mason. Scratch that question.

Grendel · Post Post #957 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:48 pm

In post 947, Empking wrote:
Grendel: Its mainly conincidince - as my posting over the last days testifies - and wrt BBT he self-imploded in a really ugly way as soon as he was wagoned, and I was only willing to sheep based on the logic-using rather than a big town-read.

You and Mick may be right about BBT.

I just had previous experiences where players that had "given up" were actually still salvageable. But I wasn't taking into consideration the meta of this site, and BBt himself.

Grendel · Post Post #958 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 pm

@Alisae

Didn't you yourself say that you're used to -Grey- scum reading you?

In post 925, -Grey- wrote:Oh?

Well, that certainly explains the wagon. And it destroys every reason I was townreading you.

All in one fell swoop.

VOTE: Alisae

Why can't this come from angry town that thinks you tricked him into hard defending you?

Alisae · Post Post #959 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:56 pm

They can't be town if they're scum

in all seriousness, that is completely bullshit if you're getting an angry tone from that post. I do not see anything in that posts that indicates as angry lmao.

-Grey- · Post Post #960 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 953, Grendel wrote:Why would scum!Alisae assume what you are going to do/act where as town!Alisae wouldn't, or not to this extent?

Why would town push a case on bad assumptions instead of seeking clarity on questionable points?

Alisae · Post Post #961 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:59 pm

In post 960, -Grey- wrote:
In post 953, Grendel wrote:Why would scum!Alisae assume what you are going to do/act where as town!Alisae wouldn't, or not to this extent?
Why would town push a case on bad assumptions instead of seeking clarity on questionable points?

Look who you're talking about.

-Grey- · Post Post #962 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 961, Alisae wrote:
In post 960, -Grey- wrote:
In post 953, Grendel wrote:Why would scum!Alisae assume what you are going to do/act where as town!Alisae wouldn't, or not to this extent?
Why would town push a case on bad assumptions instead of seeking clarity on questionable points?
Look who you're talking about.

Yeah. Scum.

That's why it makes sense.

Alisae · Post Post #963 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:03 pm

In post 962, -Grey- wrote:
In post 961, Alisae wrote:
In post 960, -Grey- wrote:
In post 953, Grendel wrote:Why would scum!Alisae assume what you are going to do/act where as town!Alisae wouldn't, or not to this extent?
Why would town push a case on bad assumptions instead of seeking clarity on questionable points?
Look who you're talking about.
Yeah. Scum.

That's why it makes sense.

See! This is why your obv scum!
You're completely disregarding my personality because Ali jumps at stuff instead of clearifies stuff.

Grendel · Post Post #964 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:09 pm

In post 959, Alisae wrote:They can't be town if they're scum

in all seriousness, that is completely bullshit if you're getting an angry tone from that post. I do not see anything in that posts that indicates as angry lmao.

I was distinctly getting a "how dare you", plus a hint of smug, "I should've known" from that post lol.

-Grey- wrote:
In post 953, Grendel wrote:Why would scum!Alisae assume what you are going to do/act where as town!Alisae wouldn't, or not to this extent?
Why would town push a case on bad assumptions instead of seeking clarity on questionable points?

I'm sorry, but your scum reading based off a surface level observation.

Town do stupid things, as do mafia.

In this instance I'm not seeing scum motivation where he voted you when he did. Unless he wanted to condemn himself.

Alisae · Post Post #965 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:13 pm

In post 964, Grendel wrote:I was distinctly getting a "how dare you", plus a hint of smug, "I should've known" from that post lol.

And I'm not. That's one hell of a reach there mister.

New townbloc: Fitz, Uzi, Moz, Snowman, Empking, Hawk, AH
Scumbloc: Mick, Grey, Grendal.

Alisae · Post Post #966 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:14 pm

btw hint: scum!Grey means that my whole wagon is town.

-Grey- · Post Post #967 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:30 pm

In post 965, Alisae wrote:
In post 964, Grendel wrote:I was distinctly getting a "how dare you", plus a hint of smug, "I should've known" from that post lol.
And I'm not. That's one hell of a reach there mister.

New townbloc: Fitz, Uzi, Moz, Snowman, Empking, Hawk, AH
Scumbloc: Mick, Grey, Grendal.

Yes, scum clearly hard defends scum here.

Alisae · Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:32 pm

I'm not SRing him for his hard defence on you.

-Grey- · Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:33 pm

In post 968, Alisae wrote:I'm not SRing him for his hard defence on you.

Doesn't fucking matter.

Scum doesn't hard defend their buddy the way he's been defending me.

Grendel/Grey can only either be T/T or T/S. Your reads are bullshit.

Grendel · Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:38 pm

In post 946, Hawk wrote:I like a lot of Grendel's reads and explanations. While I don't think he's really scumhunting yet he's at least being more contributiversatile than some other players.

Thanks for the general endorsement with no commentary on my alignment.
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I like ff tactics too man! Its a classic tactical rpg!

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I'm good with a Moz vote, but first I'd like to interact more with that slot.

I also might need to talk more with you too, b/c you've given me an itch I can't scratch.

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Alisae wrote:
In post 964, Grendel wrote:I was distinctly getting a "how dare you", plus a hint of smug, "I should've known" from that post lol.
And I'm not. That's one hell of a reach there mister.

New townbloc: Fitz, Uzi, Moz, Snowman, Empking, Hawk, AH
Scumbloc: Mick, Grey, Grendel.

Grey doesn't seem like an ALL CAPS poster when he his mad. How is it a reach?

Alisae · Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:39 pm

In post 970, Grendel wrote:Grey doesn't seem like an ALL CAPS poster when he his mad. How is it a reach?

Where the fuck do you see all caps mister?

-Grey- · Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:40 pm

In post 970, Grendel wrote:I like ff tactics too man! Its a classic tactical rpg!

QFT

Grendel · Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:43 pm

In post 971, Alisae wrote:
In post 970, Grendel wrote:Grey doesn't seem like an ALL CAPS poster when he his mad. How is it a reach?
Where the fuck do you see all caps mister?

I could run a list off of players that post in lots of caps to show their emotions.

You _can't_ be saying that ppl don't do that. RIght?

Alisae · Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:53 pm

In post 973, Grendel wrote:
In post 971, Alisae wrote:
In post 970, Grendel wrote:Grey doesn't seem like an ALL CAPS poster when he his mad. How is it a reach?
Where the fuck do you see all caps mister?
I could run a list off of players that post in lots of caps to show their emotions.

You _can't_ be saying that ppl don't do that. RIght?

No, where do you see caps in Grey's post?