Important question about Pie E7

[Primate]

I'd say they can do both. Otherwise if a scum is lynched day 1, mafia have a horrible time coming back from that, what with the town just no lynching twice into a near-unlosable situation.

[Primate]

The thing is, I don't think any setup this small can NOT be hella swingy. I recognize the need for newbie games to go faster than the regular games on this site, but I think that if we DO want them to be bases on skill, rather than randomness, we're going to have to switch to a larger setup.

I don't agree that randomness is a larger factor than skill in who wins games this small. (That said it's still

too big

a factor.)

EDIT:

but I think that if we DO want them to be bases on skill, rather than randomness, we're going to have to switch to a larger setup.

This brings up an interesting discussion. Do we need them to be based on skill?

No, not really. I think it's to the benefit of the site to maintain the illusion of that though.