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Post Post #2128  (isolation #200)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:37 am

If you claim to have attempted to use a 1-shot Rolestopper on someone then you should know for a fact that your shot is gone based on normal rules.
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Post Post #2130  (isolation #201)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:47 am

Alright FA. One time only. I am willing to offer you a truce until the end of the day. I won't try to lynch you if you don't try to lynch me. All bets off tomorrow. Take it or leave it.

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Post Post #2135  (isolation #202)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:51 am

In post 2132, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2130, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alright FA. One time only. I am willing to offer you a truce until the end of the day. I won't try to lynch you if you don't try to lynch me. All bets off tomorrow. Take it or leave it.


a weak vanilla cop visited you and is now dead

a weak vanilla cop who I protected from bullets

Give me a good reason for making an offer like that with you


Because I am town and

1) If you are scum, I will make absolutely sure that you get powerlynched tomorrow for trying to get a 1v1 forced with me.
2) If you are town, we can work together and lynch other scum and perhaps get a roleblocker flip that will make both of our lives a lot easier.

But more simply because I am town and I don't know what happened around your role but I don't feel like dealing with it today.
You should know better than to lynch me this early in a game anyway, especially after my preferred wagons got blatantly derailed by idiots and/or scum.
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Post Post #2136  (isolation #203)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:52 am

In post 2134, Anotora wrote:Only scum try to make bargains like that.


Not that I would use it as a tell, but up to this point I have never offered someone any such sort of bargain as scum but done so several times as town, mostly to Titus.
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Post Post #2140  (isolation #204)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:57 am

If you are actually town who got roleblocked then both of us being lynched means town goes to LyLo without any of its strong or obvtown players still alive.
If you are actually scum then I can deal with you later when I've seen some flips and have more information.

I do not want to force this 1v1 where both of us are bound to get lynched at this point in the game and neither should you.

Me and grey by planning this, forced scum to take a no kill gambit cause a secondary kill would practically confirm RC as scum.

Eiether that happened or I was blocked which is highly improbable given the restrictions on town power roles and ascetic claim.


FA. If you are what you claim to be we have a Protect the Cop setup where scum can't even land effects on the aforementioned weak cop.
Reminder that contrary to its name Weak badly INCREASES the strength of the role, rather than decreasing it.
I would be shocked and appalled if there were not a roleblocker because I can't see how the setup can be balanced without one, especially if after one failed kill on the cop they didn't realize that the protection would be limited shots. They have a way around you two if you are town.

"Other scum"? That's a slip if there's ever been one in this game.


Other than the two of us. Holy fuck Anotora you are such an obvscumfuck.
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Post Post #2142  (isolation #205)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:01 am

Well if you think that then vote me but if you're town it'll be literally entirely your fucking fault we lose.
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Post Post #2144  (isolation #206)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:10 am

VOTE: FA

Fine let's resolve it today.
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Post Post #2148  (isolation #207)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:35 am

In post 2146, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2144, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: FA

Fine let's resolve it today.


In half of your theories for resolving it tomorrow - you had me as town.

what just happened to that?


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Post Post #2154  (isolation #208)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:47 am

It's actually quite simple FA.

I'm going to assume that you're town for the purposes of this exercise, because otherwise it's academic.
You got a Rolestopper, which is first and foremost a doctor, in the first game following my return to mafia.

The first thing I would expect you to do is think wow, I have a doctor and RC is the biggest bullet magnet on the entire site. Maybe I'll try to work with him and see if we can do something!

NO, that's not what you did. What you did was use your doc/rolestop shot on someone who had piss poor reads, derailed my lynches, and on top of that you put the game into a situation where under most circumstances the obvious scum play would be to nightkill me because OBVIOUSLY I haven't been shot night one enough games that it's a great idea to make it happen again.
On top of that, I had multiple wagons that I would be happy to see lynched but you worked WITH the idiotic day 1 weak cop claiming Grey to subvert my lynches and lynch someone that I thought was lynchbaity. Oh, and I ended up having to lie about my reads because otherwise I was just going to get lynched for nothing. Now after both of you clowns fucked up day 1 and put me into a situation where the best case scenario was me getting NKed, again, you UTTERLY fucked up your role claim and tried to set up a false dichotomy where if I didn't double check your claims about shots the probable situation was both of us getting lynched in consecution.

So now I fixed your claim and you are STILL TRYING TO PUSH A 1V1 with me.

If you wanted me to give a shit about working with you, don't play this game like you did.
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Post Post #2156  (isolation #209)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:48 am

Like my first fucking post in this game was about how I was sick and tired of spending entire games trying to defend myself and now I have spent this entire fucking game trying to defend myself.

If you want to fight me go ahead but be fucking sure that I will bring you down with me.
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Post Post #2157  (isolation #210)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:48 am

In post 2155, Alisae wrote:tbh RC sorta just comes off as flailing anti-town right now.


No one who knows anything about this game cares about your opinion on my play. Best to keep it to yourself.
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Post Post #2158  (isolation #211)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:51 am

Also Alisae repeatedly calling me anti-town makes me feel like he wants me lynched but knows that I'll flip town.
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Post Post #2163  (isolation #212)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:56 am

3. Your not getting night kill ever, You will be lynched today and I'm the one who will die with your scum flip


Alright we're done here.
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Post Post #2165  (isolation #213)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:58 am

What's with Alisae's sudden obsession with lining up a Gamma lynch? Where did the FoSes on Gamma come from?
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Post Post #2170  (isolation #214)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:04 am

In post 2169, Alisae wrote:Dear those who think that RC is not scum.
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=66954
Read their ISO.
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You haven't provided a single point of comparison, you're just linking a game and saying that I'm scum.
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Post Post #2172  (isolation #215)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:06 am

Is it Anotora or Alisae?
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Post Post #2175  (isolation #216)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:09 am

Can you just say who it is so I can start pulling my own associatives?
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Post Post #2178  (isolation #217)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:13 am

VOTE: Srceenplay

No, because I am obvious town.
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Post Post #2180  (isolation #218)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:15 am

Or it could be Mlmooney.

Ehh.

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Post Post #2183  (isolation #219)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:16 am

In post 2181, Alisae wrote:RC my point is your anti-town play here is similar to your anti-town play in that game where N1 JK died and you immediately asked the BP to claim.


Erm. That wasn't anti-town at all. That is the correct play and I can cite examples of me doing the exact same thing as town, and did so in that game.
Just because town got uppity and didn't realize the merit to it doesn't mean that it's the wrong play.
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Post Post #2186  (isolation #220)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:17 am

You are also distilling the play of someone who won a scummy award for scum play to 'anti town'. If you could look in my games for 'anti town' play and automatically know my alignment, I would be a shitty scummy recipient.
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Post Post #2193  (isolation #221)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:28 am

I would still rather lynch Alisae than confirmed scum right now.
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Post Post #2201  (isolation #222)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:32 am

In post 2198, Anotora wrote:
In post 2190, Alisae wrote:RC Either way your play has been anti-town this whole game and you should honestly be policy lynched.
Wanting to not let Panther's slot replace in during the day.
Selfvoting yourself with a bunch of disgusting AtE.
Voting obv town.
A bunch of anti-town bullshit that should really not be let go.

QFT.

I'm gonna call it RC, Pepcho, and one of the less active players.


There is literally a claimed inno on me and you are still trying to lynch me you obnoxious scumfuck.
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Post Post #2206  (isolation #223)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:35 am

In post 2205, Anotora wrote:The RB'er wasn't to combat you or -Grey-. It was to combat Garmr. It makes so much sense.


Why are you assuming that a Roleblocker exists when you were oh-so-ready to lynch in me and FA? Why isn't FA just a scumfuck?
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Post Post #2209  (isolation #224)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:37 am

In post 2208, Frozen Angel wrote:that makes me suspicioun of panther he was the first one who even mentioned a roleblock possibility in day 1


Yeah because when a bunch of ridiculous townies start massclaiming their power roles and it adds up to an absurd amount of power everyone's first thought is that scum has no PRs.
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Post Post #2211  (isolation #225)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:38 am

No Alisae you don't get a say please stop trying to produce game related content because what game related content you have produced thus far this game has only helped scum.

Zip.
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Post Post #2216  (isolation #226)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:39 am

VOTE: Alisae

I am RC and I am confirmed town and you are one of my top scumreads.
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Post Post #2220  (isolation #227)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:41 am

Proposal: Pepcho was the scum who submitted the nightkill. Therefore they are the least likely to have powers.

We should lynch outside of Pepcho today.
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Post Post #2223  (isolation #228)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:41 am

In post 2219, Alisae wrote:LOL RC nice OMGUS


It's not OMGUS it's a defense of my sanity from the absolute absurd play that I've seen from town this game.
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Post Post #2225  (isolation #229)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:42 am

Or we could PL everyone who tried to vote for me today. I'm pretty cool with that.
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Post Post #2229  (isolation #230)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:44 am

Because Pepcho fucking shot Grey last night you twit.
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Post Post #2230  (isolation #231)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:45 am

Yeah, Alisae might be town.

Anotora looks REALLY bad though.
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Post Post #2237  (isolation #232)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:51 am

Ano did push on Pepcho quite a bit but then tried to get Srceenplay going instead. It feels really bad.

If we're not lynching Pepcho, I want Ano.
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Post Post #2238  (isolation #233)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:51 am

WAIT A SECOND I KNOW WHO OBVIOUS ALT IS.
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Post Post #2241  (isolation #234)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:54 am

Pepcho is a bad lynch because we should dig for the roleblocker if there is one. It is not likely to be the person who committed the nightkill.
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Post Post #2244  (isolation #235)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:55 am

Quick guess: Anotora, Mlmooney, Pepchoninga.

pedit...
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Post Post #2257  (isolation #236)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:02 am

I could do Mlmooney: but if FA is scum then MLmooney is the one of the trio that is town.
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Post Post #2259  (isolation #237)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:03 am

In post 2258, Anotora wrote:Pepcho defended Srceenplay TONS in the early game. It was what I disliked most about Pepcho.


Like look at this obnoxious scumfuckery. Srceenplay was the original counter wagon.
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Post Post #2262  (isolation #238)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:04 am

Alisae I'm sorry but SAJ was your baby and you spent today trying to lynch me. I won't be mean anymore but I really am not interested in your advice on how I am to play today out.
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Post Post #2266  (isolation #239)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:07 am

I claim 1-shot bulletproof kappa
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Post Post #2270  (isolation #240)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:11 am

Ooh do we get to lynch Alisae!?
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Post Post #2271  (isolation #241)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:12 am

But yes, the reason that I accepted the terrible bull around day 1 was that I am 1-shot bulletproof.

I popcorn to Anotora.
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Post Post #2273  (isolation #242)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:14 am

Anotora is hillarious tho.

BUT DAE THOSE LURKERS LIKE SRCEENPLAY!?!?!?
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Post Post #2274  (isolation #243)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:16 am

Like just literally not even responding to the discussion around Mlmooney and him being scum, just defaulting back to BUT SRCEENPLAY THO
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Post Post #2276  (isolation #244)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:18 am

In post 2275, Garmr wrote:
In post 2023, mlmooney89 wrote:With those wagons I'm thinking I will back off srceenplay. He didn't vote for SAJ despite it being a town wagon, which Anotora did as well.
I will also clear Garmr.
Grey and SAJ turned out town so there goes my other scum radar.
That leaves FB (which I find town), RC, Alisae, Pep, and FA on the lynch wagon.
FA was on everyone except Pep
RC & Alisae was on everyone so I'm leaning town
Pep was on no one but the lynch

I know someone else made the prior wagons list so before I start accusing anyone I would like to look at the votes myself. Unfortunately this flip happened right before I'm going home for the night and I don't think I can get that kind of data on my phone, I will see if I cant get my laptop out.


UNVOTE: mlmooney

If you are a cop you are the worst cop ever. It was pretty obvious I was town day 1 to nearly everyone what a waste of a investigation if you are one.


you raise a good point

BUT SRCEENPLAY THO
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Post Post #2277  (isolation #245)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:19 am

Image????
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Post Post #2280  (isolation #246)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:22 am

Yeah sure but come on there's not a weak vanilla cop a watcher and a cop variant in the same game.
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Post Post #2281  (isolation #247)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:22 am

AND WHAT ABOUT Image?
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Post Post #2284  (isolation #248)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:24 am

We can just force Mooney to claim next if that's what you want.
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Post Post #2285  (isolation #249)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:24 am

Ehh. So there could be a 1-Shot cop or something.
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Post Post #2286  (isolation #250)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:24 am

But holy fuck would someone with 1 shot of cop REALLY target you of all people?
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Post Post #2288  (isolation #251)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:24 am

THEY COULD HAVE TARGETED Image
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Post Post #2289  (isolation #252)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:25 am

In post 2287, Firebringer wrote:Hey guys just got home from long trip so haven't read anything except new flip.
Kind of thinking frozen is scum more.....

I'll read everything tomorrow I need to sleep.

Ohh and how's life guys?


HEY WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON Image
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Post Post #2297  (isolation #254)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:27 am

yo my life's good but have you heard about Image
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Post Post #2309  (isolation #255)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:38 am

He wouldn't have been able to target and there wouldn't be a strongman in this setup like I said before.
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Post Post #2333  (isolation #256)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:35 am

VOTE: Anotora
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Post Post #2348  (isolation #257)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:24 pm

FURRBROUNGUR
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Post Post #2350  (isolation #258)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:25 pm

I would be utterly unsurprised if scum had a cop role to get towncred from the miller claim. That said, no we're not lynching them today.

Anotora? =]

Also, if she's town then scum are basically required to have an ascetic...
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Post Post #2351  (isolation #259)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:26 pm

YOU SHOULD EAT SOME GODDAMN FROSTED FLAKES YOU FILTHY INTIMIDATE USING EXTREMESPEED BURNING CHOICE BAND WEARING ARCANINE
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Post Post #2359  (isolation #260)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:31 pm

I am not lynching Gamma today, sorry.
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Post Post #2362  (isolation #261)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:33 pm

I could easily see both town AND scum having an ascetic to reduce the power of the PRs.

I could also see a rolestopper on scum side to keep them safe from town investigations.

I don't trust you FA and I'm not letting you dictate the lynch.
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Post Post #2364  (isolation #262)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:37 pm

Even if you are town, I'm not particularly inclined to trust your reads given SAJ was your doing and you tried to shove my lynch down everyone's throats today.
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Post Post #2366  (isolation #263)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:39 pm

I get that reasoning, but have you considered there could be two ascetics on both alignments to further neuter the insane investigative potential that town has?
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Post Post #2371  (isolation #264)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:44 pm

3 vanillas. I am, of course, a 1-shot bulletproof.
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Post Post #2374  (isolation #265)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:46 pm

In post 2372, Anotora wrote:
In post 2366, RadiantCowbells wrote:I get that reasoning, but have you considered there could be two ascetics on both alignments to further neuter the insane investigative potential that town has?

It's only really insane potential if you take mlmooney's claim for fact.

VOTE: Pepchoninga

TBH I'm totally stoked to have my suspicion of Pepcho somewhat confirmed.


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Post Post #2376  (isolation #266)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:49 pm

Uhh yeahb ut we already have 2 town confirmed.
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Post Post #2377  (isolation #267)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:52 pm

It's conspiracy level bullshit to suggest that Garmr is scum here.
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Post Post #2381  (isolation #268)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:07 pm

You just can't help yourself from scumming up the thread can you?
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Post Post #2382  (isolation #269)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:08 pm

There's a time and a place for tactical lurking, Anotora, and this is the one.
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Post Post #2385  (isolation #270)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:10 pm

In post 2384, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 2375, Srceenplay wrote:If we believe garmr is telling the truth with Pep and pep flips scum we basically confirm 2twon. Right?

Mandy could be lying. After your partner gets outed what better way to distance yourself than to confirm the person who outed your partner.


Whoa, you two are on a first name basis now. Clearly it's because you guys have been talking a lot in scum topic. #lynchallsrceenplays
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Post Post #2390  (isolation #271)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:17 pm

I think Pepcho should have happened yesterday instead of Jhin because it was a way better wagon but hey.
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Post Post #2392  (isolation #272)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:19 pm

YEAH WE DO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT IDEAS ON HOW IT SHOULD BE PLAYED DO YOU WANT TO COME THE FUCK OVER HERE AND FIGHT ME HUH?
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Post Post #2394  (isolation #273)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:20 pm

In post 2393, Srceenplay wrote:If we lynch Pep wrong we learn some people are full of shit. If we lynch someone else wrong we learn town makes mistakes again v


Uhh, do you think we're lynching wrong? If so, then who would you prefer to lynch Mr. Srceenplay.
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Post Post #2398  (isolation #274)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:25 pm

Anotora was also a wagon who got side tracked yesterday but you don't hear my bitching.

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Post Post #2402  (isolation #275)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:30 pm

In post 2399, Srceenplay wrote:I gave you mine. Tell me what we will learn if we lynch wrong?


We narrow down the potential remaining scum.
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Post Post #2407  (isolation #276)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:34 pm

I'll tell you what. If you flip town I will totally reread the Srceenplay slot because your play is the reason I'm writing him off as conftown. Agreed?
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Post Post #2409  (isolation #277)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:37 pm

In post 2408, Srceenplay wrote:Why is my thinking wrong?


Because I want to dig for a Roleblocker flip to get information on FA's alignment.
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Post Post #2411  (isolation #278)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:39 pm

Mmm, it's an amazing one. All evidence points that scum used Srceenplay as a counterwagon to you and Pepcho and when that didn't work out they jumped ship to SAJ
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Post Post #2413  (isolation #279)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:42 pm

Because FMPOV Pepcho is confirmed scum. Whether we lynch him today or not is irrelevant to me because I already see him as confscum.
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Post Post #2417  (isolation #280)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:48 pm

Man you both should do a lot more tactical lurking.
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Post Post #2421  (isolation #281)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:56 pm

In post 2418, Anotora wrote:
In post 2417, RadiantCowbells wrote:Man you both should do a lot more tactical lurking.

I would if I were scum LOL


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Post Post #2454  (isolation #282)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:39 pm

*cough* abr when I told you he was scum
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Post Post #2455  (isolation #283)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:40 pm

JK ily even if you're a scumfuck this game.
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Post Post #2462  (isolation #284)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:44 pm

And a 1-shot bulletproof.
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Post Post #2468  (isolation #285)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:48 pm

No scum would ever claim 1-shot bulletproof. That's like an insanely bad move to ever make as scum.
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Post Post #2469  (isolation #286)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:48 pm

Duh.
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Post Post #2476  (isolation #287)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:51 pm

If Ano is town then I want to lynch Alisae.
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Post Post #2487  (isolation #288)  » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:57 pm

I was trolling. I'm not convinced and your fakehammer was bad.
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Post Post #2513  (isolation #289)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:52 am

So when FA does it it's fine and it looks reaaaaaaaaaly town to you but when I do it I'm anti-town and need to be powerlynched despite my reads actually having been non-shit. Yeah, that seems reasonable.
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Post Post #2515  (isolation #290)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:54 am

Maybe you can't tell the difference between what someone would do as town and scum?
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Post Post #2524  (isolation #291)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:05 am

Why would Pep post? they are confirmed scum and will only make it harder on their teammates.
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Post Post #2531  (isolation #292)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:53 am

=(

Can we all calm down and hug it out?

FA, please vote Anotora.
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Post Post #2555  (isolation #293)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:44 am

Don't vote Gamma.

You guys should know better than to derail one of my wagons after yesterday.
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Post Post #2603  (isolation #294)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:15 pm

I uh totally forgot Panther's slot existed.
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Post Post #2625  (isolation #295)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:05 pm

I still want Anotora.
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Post Post #2629  (isolation #296)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:15 pm

If you flipped green I'd lynch FA probably.
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Post Post #2630  (isolation #297)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:15 pm

In post 690, Anotora wrote:So, guys, here's my case for why lynching me today is a bad idea:

- Whether I flip scum or town (hint: I will flip town), mine is a relatively low-information lynch compared to the info you would be getting from lynching Pepcho or Srceenplay. I really haven't engaged much yet directly with people like Frozen Angel and RadiantCowbells, but if you learn something from Pepcho's flip, you end up learning something about pretty much every other player in the game except kentofan. And if Srceenplay winds up being scum, which is very likely, then you will learn a *heck of a lot* based on who was willing to defend his scummy activity and who wasn't. To be explicit about it, if Srceenplay flips scum, we can pretty much proceed to wagon Pepcho D2 unless/until new information comes up.

- I am an active poster, and that alone makes me worth keeping around. At least I don't try to obstruct others from reading me the way Srceenplay has the whole game (and Pepcho has done on occasion with meaningless posts). I'd much rather the town doesn't carry dead weight like Srceenplay on its back. Even if I'm scum, which I'm not, wouldn't you rather have me be an obvious suspect later on, than be stuck with Srceenplay or Pepcho clouding the waters?

- Pepcho and Srceenplay are, in fact, scummier than I am. Maybe I still have a long way to go, convincing people of this, but it's true. All game long, Srceenplay's posts have been just terrible, and he's only improved them in hopes of warding off his newfound wagon. Pepcho's gameplay, to me, absolutely screams out bussing. Peeps like Garmr and Grey have been on my case for what feels like the lion's share of the day now, but my posting has wavered little. You can't say that about either of them, and it's really suspicious.

I realize this post might make it sound like I favor a Srceenplay lynch moreso than a Pepcho lynch. That isn't true. I think Pepcho is a lot worse than Srceenplay because Pepcho has gone out of his way to defend another scummy player, while the reverse is not true. But it seems like the rest of the playerlist sees Srceenplay as the main alternative to lynching me. I'm okay with that, though not thrilled.
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Post Post #2631  (isolation #298)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 pm

Also the whole being worried about being seen to prever a Sceenplay lynch over a Pepcho lynch while not trying to argue against it.

The associatives between you two are out of control.
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Post Post #2633  (isolation #299)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:19 pm

And frankly I find it difficult to believe that you ACCIDENTALLY called Pepcho's gameplay bussing when you were the person he was wagonning.
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Post Post #2635  (isolation #300)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:20 pm

I am talking to Anotora and explaining why I am powerlynching him and hopefully enlightening the rest of the townies as to why I feel this way.
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Post Post #2637  (isolation #301)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:22 pm

It's a good vote because it's more likely to flip scum than any non-pepcho scum in the game and despite his failings day 1 I think Anotora has played fairly well as scum and will probably endgame if I don't stamp him out now.
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Post Post #2638  (isolation #302)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:25 pm

Man I don't give a shit about this information bullshit. I want to clean out scum while I'm alive and the Anotora lynch is the best avenue to do so.
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Post Post #2641  (isolation #303)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:31 pm

Pepcho is confirmed scum and there is therefore no rush to lynch him since he will be lynched before endgame.

Anotora may not.
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Post Post #2642  (isolation #304)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:31 pm

In post 2639, Garmr wrote:
In post 2628, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 2620, Garmr wrote:why is gamma the exception btw screenplay. What makes Gamma different from frozen?

It was an appeasement to FA. She says she is confirmed scum if Gamma flips town. My original is Pep and I still think it gives the most information.

Why do you say my tune has changed?

Why do you want to appease FA? Isn't it better to flip her first. If she flips town we know their is a roleblocker and we get much more clarity and information because of the ammount she posted also it puts gamma up as likely scum. If she's scum she's scum and probably a power role.

Hell I would argue that gamma and Fa have the possibility to be on the same team. I mean she literally wanted to push rc over gamma at the start of the day.


We are not bringing FA to endgame unless there's a roleblocker flip. Deal?
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Post Post #2646  (isolation #305)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:33 pm

Garmr, read the post that I linked and tell me they're not scumbuddies. C'mon.
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Post Post #2648  (isolation #306)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:39 pm

And don't get me wrong I'd love to bye felicia Alisae and FA but it's just the wrong play right now.
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Post Post #2652  (isolation #307)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:01 pm

In post 2651, Garmr wrote:You know I just thought of something? How dumb was it to accuse Rc of being scum by a grey weak cop.

1. we don't know if frozen is lying or not.
2.There had to been a roleblocker if she wasn't
3. Grey's role name would changed on his death.
4 If FA supposed ability hit grey wouldn't even be able to weak cop.

I feel like rc was a scum set up.


Unfortunately it was first and foremost Grey's idea and we both know that Grey wasn't scum. Anotora was definitely sitting around waiting to scoop up free mislynches though.
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Post Post #2654  (isolation #308)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:16 pm

In post 2653, Srceenplay wrote:
In post 2648, RadiantCowbells wrote:And don't get me wrong I'd love to bye felicia Alisae and FA but it's just the wrong play right now.

So you are saying you want to get rid of Pep Ano Alisea and FA. They are your scum?


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Post Post #2670  (isolation #309)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:52 pm

In post 2666, Frozen Angel wrote:This is fucking sick if your wrong about ano My theory was right and I'm going to get lynched THEN to suffer from being right

NO WAY

pedit : ascietic , limited role blocker , probably ninja , Role cop maybe


Almost as bad as if you tried to force a 1v1 between town who you put into the shitty 1v1 situation and yourself.
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Post Post #2671  (isolation #310)  » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:52 pm

No, we can't Screenplay. Sorry.
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Post Post #2678  (isolation #311)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:04 am

The menu this evening:

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baby fennel, taggiasca Anatolas, lemon
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apple, chicory, celery, aged Anatola
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proscuitto, salami gentile, mortadella, spicy Anatola
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Post Post #2680  (isolation #312)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:05 am

In post 2676, Frozen Angel wrote:RC if ano is town You will probably die before having the chance to revalute my green flip

I need to die so you can use my flip Tomorrow To sort it MORE accuratly


I am going to do things my way since last time you tried to do things your way you powerlynched town and tried to force a 1v1 with town.
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Post Post #2682  (isolation #313)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:06 am

FMPOV the fact that the Anatora lynch 'doesn't sit well with you' is exactly the reason that I need to make it happen today.
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Post Post #2690  (isolation #314)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:10 am

In post 2688, Srceenplay wrote:Ano is a scum layup for the town


I am pushing it. Am I scum?
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Post Post #2703  (isolation #315)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:25 am

In post 2702, Srceenplay wrote:Look at peps early read list. Where is he going to put his team? Toward the middle? If you can agree that Pep is scum why would he be pushing for an Ano lynch


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Post Post #2711  (isolation #316)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:19 am

Yeah but we already established that he was bussing you but not your partners sooooooooooo
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Post Post #2780  (isolation #317)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:44 am

THIS IS BAD STAHP
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Post Post #2782  (isolation #318)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:48 am

BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S CONFIRMED SCUM AND WE DON'T NEED TO WASTE A LYNCH ON HIM WHILE THE WHOLE TOWN IS ALIVE JFC
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Post Post #2786  (isolation #319)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:58 pm

Omg this game is making me very sad on the inside.
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Post Post #2801  (isolation #320)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:35 pm

I haven't liked Panther's play today but Anotora's associatives are still the worst.
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Post Post #2805  (isolation #321)  » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:49 pm

Damn panther you are scummy as butt.
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Post Post #2883  (isolation #322)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:01 am

VOTE: Alisae

I've been burned too many times believing that people can actually be this bad. Almost exclusively they can't.
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Post Post #2944  (isolation #323)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 2919, Firebringer wrote:Why can't people sheep me for once?


Do you remember last time you pulled this crap and I was actually trying to lynch scum and you were actually lynching town and we ended up fucking losing?
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Post Post #2951  (isolation #324)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:44 pm

VOTE: Anotora

Why is it so hard to get votes on Anotora if they're town, guys?

Don't you think that scum would be rallying to powerwagon someone and blame me for it?
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Post Post #2954  (isolation #325)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:49 pm

I will vote you with all the people who want you lynched if you don't help me lynch scum.
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Post Post #2965  (isolation #326)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:10 pm

VOTE: srceenplay

Sorry but I want a narrow range of people dead and Alisae isn't one today.
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Post Post #2970  (isolation #327)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:53 pm

[vote]Anotora[/vote

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Post Post #2973  (isolation #328)  » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:26 pm

no

but count this as a vote.

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Post Post #3023  (isolation #329)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:36 am

That's not a slip at all jfc for the love of Annie Hastur.
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Post Post #3031  (isolation #330)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:12 am

In post 3025, Frozen Angel wrote:well thats not! But your cute so whatever


Oh I know why you're sheeping me ;)
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Post Post #3056  (isolation #331)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:24 am

VOTE: Anotora

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Post Post #3061  (isolation #332)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:26 am

No but she has a giant flaming teddy bear to wallop people's heads in.
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Post Post #3062  (isolation #333)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:27 am

*SUMMONS TIBBERS*

[b]Tibbers votes: Anotora[/vote]

THat's hammer.
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Post Post #3063  (isolation #334)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:27 am

Fuck this lag.
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Post Post #3066  (isolation #335)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:28 am

Now kiss!
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Post Post #3069  (isolation #336)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:30 am

Alisae x Firebringer now #1 ship MS.
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Post Post #3075  (isolation #337)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:34 am

In post 3072, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 3069, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alisae x Firebringer now #1 ship MS.


whattt

what about me >.>


D=

Elsanna is still an amazing ship =]
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Post Post #3082  (isolation #338)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:36 am

If you're actually town who decided to play like you did then you deserve to be lynched.

Every player I am going to lynch is scum, some of them just aren't mafia.
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Post Post #3085  (isolation #339)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:36 am

Especially with how sarcastic mine was.
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Post Post #3098  (isolation #340)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:44 am

THE MOD IS GLARING AT YOU >:[
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Post Post #3100  (isolation #341)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:45 am

Anotora is getting lynched before endgame no matter what.

It might as well be today.
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Post Post #3103  (isolation #342)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:46 am

*feeds Firebringer delicious foods*
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Post Post #3106  (isolation #343)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:47 am

Panther's a top scumread. Srceenplay, not so much.
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Post Post #3108  (isolation #344)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:50 am

If it were me I would just meme up the thread until town gave up and lynched me.
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Post Post #3116  (isolation #345)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:53 am

Steven universe still makes me sad.
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Post Post #3132  (isolation #346)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:01 am

Well, if Anotora is town then they still deserved to be lynched after the stuff they said on D1. That slot was never making endgame.
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Post Post #3138  (isolation #347)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:02 am

Mooney targets Panther_Punt.
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Post Post #3139  (isolation #348)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:03 am

Anotora you weren't getting NKed.

The post I linked made you unkeepable. don't say stuff like that.
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Post Post #3141  (isolation #349)  » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:04 am

Sorry for the fuck up.
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Post Post #3166  (isolation #350)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:07 pm

Uhh she was probably killed for her reasd tbh.
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Post Post #3167  (isolation #351)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:08 pm

And no, there was no chance that I was ever lynching FA after yesterday so.
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Post Post #3168  (isolation #352)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:08 pm

I would still prefer to lynch someone other than the confirmed wolf.
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Post Post #3176  (isolation #353)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:17 pm

I am no longer at all convinced that Firebringer is town and that speedhammer makes me feel even more strongly about it.
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Post Post #3179  (isolation #354)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:20 pm

You saw the post that I linked. I am still flabbergasted that Anotora called Pepcho's vote on him 'bussing'. Then tried to set him up as a lynch AFTER Srceenplay while giving Srceenplay an out.
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Post Post #3180  (isolation #355)  » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:21 pm

While giving Pepcho an out if Srceenplay flipped town*
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Post Post #3190  (isolation #356)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:10 pm

VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #3195  (isolation #357)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:18 pm

In post 3186, Alisae wrote:Also RC asked Pep to hammer where?


He was being sarcastic you dolt.
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Post Post #3196  (isolation #358)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:19 pm

If Fire's going to be paranoid of me still after everything that's happened I want a 1v1 today.

Vote between us.
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Post Post #3197  (isolation #359)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:20 pm

I sincerely, sincerely disbelieve that there is any possibility that Firebringer would think I am scum here. I am fine losing on the 2% chance that he is town.
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Post Post #3205  (isolation #360)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:30 pm

I don't want this to get into an ate war where someone feels like shit at the end. I'm just going to vote you and do other things.
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Post Post #3209  (isolation #361)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:37 pm

That's the point.

Alisae I am town and not going to vote shit when your tertiary scum is me.
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Post Post #3225  (isolation #362)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:05 pm

If this game is going to be 'I don't have any reason to FoS RC but I'm going to vote him because paranoia anyway' then I'm just done.

Don't vote Gamma.
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Post Post #3231  (isolation #363)  » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:09 pm

In post 3227, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3225, RadiantCowbells wrote:If this game is going to be 'I don't have any reason to FoS RC but I'm going to vote him because paranoia anyway' then I'm just done.

Don't vote Gamma.

See this sounds like ate buddy.

Want to talk at all?


No, I don't want to talk. You know perfectly well how I feel about being unable to have a fair shake at playing the game because 'OH RC COULD BE SCUM'

If you can't reasonably deduce whether I'm scum or not then the reasonable option is to lose on the offchance that I'm scum rather than ruin all the games where I'm town.
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Post Post #3293  (isolation #364)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:24 am

Town is only winning if at least one of Firebringer and I are scum so you might as well vote one of the two of us Alisae.
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Post Post #3296  (isolation #365)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:31 am

FB waited for the two people who hard townread me to be gone from the game then decided I was scum despite the watch result which basically clears me and having called me town the entire rest of the game.
He's also the only person in this game who would have picked up on the fact that FA was a good nightkill because he would have known that I would never have let her get lynched.

It's 'conceivably' possible that he just has me->Postie level issues with reading me as town and that scum decided to NK FA for some other reason??? but I don't feel at all bad about losing in that reality.
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Post Post #3297  (isolation #366)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:33 am

Also if I were scum the correct play would be to powerlynch literally anyone in the game besides him and ignore him and call him misguided and cite his paranoia about my slot then NK him and say that scum were wifoming and that I would NEVER make that nightkill because it points directly to me and you all would have eaten it like cherry cheesecake.
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Post Post #3299  (isolation #367)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:47 am

Because that would be terrible play. I want to lynch him because he's a sketchy scumfuck, not because of anything to do with his Miller claim.
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Post Post #3302  (isolation #368)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:57 am

That was one helluva read 180 there mister.
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Post Post #3354  (isolation #369)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:33 am

Do you want to clarify your claimed track on Alisae?
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Post Post #3356  (isolation #370)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:57 pm

You are claiming to be a tracker?
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Post Post #3365  (isolation #371)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:35 pm

That was unnecessarily harsh Srceenplay.
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Post Post #3369  (isolation #372)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:21 pm

VOTE: Alisae
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Post Post #3374  (isolation #373)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:50 pm

VOTE: A l i s a e
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Post Post #3378  (isolation #374)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:58 pm

Firebringer I am town here. I don't want to go hard AtEing because I don't want to establish a pattern of that being the only way you read me but I don't want to lose this game.
If I were scum who somehow got fucking hail mary'd by Garmr's watch then let's just agree to let me win and blame shit luck for town's loss.

Alisae's had now 3 of these utterly insane changes in their reads and this one feels ridiculously scum motivated. Especially if I'm correct in the reasoning for the FA kill.
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Post Post #3381  (isolation #375)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:03 pm

I don't really have a way of knowing your alignment and I don't trust my read on you.
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Post Post #3387  (isolation #376)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:06 pm

If you say I'm obvtown I will unvote Alisae and give the game some breathing room.
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Post Post #3389  (isolation #377)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:09 pm

SEARCH YOUR FEELINGS FIREBRINGER YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE.
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Post Post #3392  (isolation #378)  » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:15 pm

I AM YOUR OBVTOWN TOWN LEADER.

WE CAN OVERTHROW THE SCUMTEAM. THEY HAVE FORESEEN IT.

JOIN ME AND WE CAN RULE THIS TOWN AS FIREBRINGER AND RC.
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Post Post #3405  (isolation #379)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:35 am

In post 3404, Srceenplay wrote:You ok voting Gamma while prodded?


What's this supposed to mean?
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Post Post #3425  (isolation #380)  » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:09 pm

I am chilling until the slot gets filled.
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Post Post #3468  (isolation #381)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:11 am

I find it really fucking difficult to believe that Mlmooney investigated me of all people.

I'm thinking it might be time to lynch that slot.
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Post Post #3471  (isolation #382)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:13 am

I love buses. If Alisae were bussing Elena I'd have put her in the ground yesterday.
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Post Post #3484  (isolation #383)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:17 am

Alisae keeps 180ing on their reads in really scummy ways.
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Post Post #3492  (isolation #384)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:33 am

It better be a blind date setup.
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Post Post #3511  (isolation #385)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:52 am

VOTE: Mlmooney

That makes literally no sense and their claimed invest makes literally no sense and the amount of claimed investigative power in this setup is absolutely nuts.
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Post Post #3522  (isolation #386)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:07 am

That's probably against the rules.
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Post Post #3530  (isolation #387)  » Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:12 am

UNVOTE:

So I'm going to consider Mlmooney confirmed scum.

Other than that I'm going to take a moment and reread.
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Post Post #3571  (isolation #388)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:48 pm

I claimed BP for memery but no memery occurred.
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Post Post #3574  (isolation #389)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:05 pm

Do you play on NA?
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Post Post #3576  (isolation #390)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:07 pm

What's your username?
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Post Post #3579  (isolation #391)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:11 pm

lol @ posting in mafia games mid game.
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Post Post #3589  (isolation #392)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:34 pm

Elena you don't feel town to me rn.
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Post Post #3603  (isolation #393)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:22 pm

No Elena I want you to tell me things instead of saying I should just realize.
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Post Post #3610  (isolation #394)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:50 pm

I am conftown unless scum with Mlmooney. unvote Elena.
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Post Post #3613  (isolation #395)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:07 pm

Alisae/Fire please unvote.

I'm not saying that they are town I'm saying that we should wait and let them contribute more to the game, even if they are scum it will help us suss out the last scum.
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Post Post #3614  (isolation #396)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:07 pm

If Mlmooney hammers I want her instalynched tomorrow regardless of flip. Don't do that shit.
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Post Post #3616  (isolation #397)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:13 pm

Why don't we vote PantherPunt then?
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Post Post #3621  (isolation #398)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:16 pm

WOW CONFIRMED SCUM FIREBRINGER NOT EVEN VOTING

VOTE: FIREBRINGER
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Post Post #3632  (isolation #399)  » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:22 pm

UNVOTE:
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