Mini Normal 1866: Landmark Mafia! (Mafia Victory!)

[Frozen Angel]

Fire are you voting me?

Its what cool kids do these days!

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Fire you shouldn't ignore me

you know thats painful for me

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Fire you shouldn't ignore me

you know thats painful for me

friend, i don't think its wise for us to get into conversations into this game.
if you would like to talk about other stuff not related to game i am fine with that.

like hows your day going?

Headaches

terrible killing headaches and I can't use proper painkillers because of breast feeding.

[Frozen Angel]

<3

about this game

Find the roleblocker and get Gamma for me (if their not the same)

if you need to see my flip just vote me now

I'm going to sleep sooner tonight

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Ano thoughts on my theory and shit?

yeah your theory is shit

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will elaborate on that when I was fully functional

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Cause if garmr is lieing the team is exactly RC + ml + garmr and pep would have defended himself against this

ml is not lieing cause she was softing cop day 1 repeatedly and that make sense with a miller + role stopper

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and the fact Grey was WEAK

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They could have been faking the softs?

I'm positive they weren't.

This inves shit was exactly what I was waiting for after I saw that miller claim knowing my role >.>

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and even if they were Garmr is either town or scum with RC and ML - cause pep never said no shit and never denied visiting Grey thats absurd - so I was really role blocked and grey was really killed by pep

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Mandy's softclaims were the first investigative role claims of the whole game, though...

That

and she asked indirectly if she should CC grey or not (seeing if its possible for 2 inves)

and she practically claimed cop later in day saying who would she visit

Thats why gamma is scum (ascietic) and a limited roleblocker MIGHT make some sense..

Thats the only way this setup can happen

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@FA I have a 10 week old..how old is your little one? Hope the headaches get better.

Thank you. 8 weeks!

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Did Pep ever confirm it either?

He had like 300 posts yesterday and today he has like 6 - which are all fluff

what do you think?

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and even if he is town like 5% that the scum team are exactly Garmr, ML , RC.

there is no way to loose there ^

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he is town like 0.05% tbh

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there actually isn't any point to attempt to find and lynch the rb if we have a watcher.

Mafia Can Kill and Block and A roleblocker flip witll make ME conftown and then everyobe will see WHAT I see from the setup.

a pep lynch will practically say nothing. He is already flipped RED Very Very likely goon and definitely not the role blocker

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But its obvious our pr claims are real!

My role is not designed like this to mess with one inves with a miller and ascietic!

and setup wise its proven that they are eaither scum together or towon (mL can be solo scum but she is not ... Thats a read that I won't change)

pep lynch will just delay us one day.

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If the team is really garmr RC ML they are practically DOOMED

like there is no way that trio can endgame - one of them will die and the rest will go down with them

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see if we lynch pep they will just kill in that obv townblock we will get no info and we loose Town.

Tomorrow we will be Here exactly the same place we are today with less people in townblock

if we could just get the roleblocker or a second scum (which is gamma with that ascietic) I will be conftown as well - pep will be lynched before a lylo happens and the game is like a conftown block against one scum

if we fail today we will still get information and solving the game will be easier later

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So we lynch Pep to see if it is a gambit or if it's real.

That makes no sense.

This can't be a gambit

They have to avoid his lynch for like 3 days! >.> Pep is definietly tomorrows lynch regardless of todays result

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No they wouldn't

This town must be practically retarded to not lynch a confscum before lylo hits

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no matter who is in the scum team

IF pep survives to lylo , we all Literally deserve to loose Every single game of mafia Forever

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He had no townread on me

and he has no townread on me still

if he was on me we could get the rb instead of pep - best possible senario was mandy checking me and garmr watching grey this whole crap would have been sorted then

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you could reach the conclusions I reached if you were town

You didn't even try

give me a break

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your not just confscum in my eyes

sorry that hurts pep

VOTE: Aliese My vote is wherever RC vote is as I said before.

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No you shoudn't

But I have no responsibility what so ever

Thats on RC

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at least not for the theory

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WHAT the fuck mod?

read my voted and put them in corret places FFS

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MOD >.>

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again it doesn't matter if you disagree

I was the hanging tree in all the scenarios. You checking me would practically have effect for RC read too.

You visiting me would made that townblock complete and Remove the wifom shit about my role

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Your wifom right now isn't what I'm concerned about so the risk of clearing it seems a waste of power. But that's just my opinion because I don't think you are scum enough to bother clearing you.

Tell that to the wagon on me lol

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I want whatever RC wants

period

but yeah if we lynch pep we will have a ML chance again

the other viable lynch is GAMMA and I guess anotora or you >.>

cases are already made

I neeeddddd TO DIIIIEEEE so people can actually see them <3

making sense?

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11 alive means 3 ML ...

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nice try to what

Your a scum ascietic

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they are conftown cause they can't be scum.

Its very obvious logic tbh.

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and Garmr is conftown

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Everyone are dumb to not agree when someone is confirmed.

confirmed is confirmed there is no place for negotiation

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Sheep RC He knows the best

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Yes!

If RC votes me I will vote myself

He is just the best

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Cause I hate to see RC saying stuff like "I was right!" and "you lost the game!" anymore.

I want to see what he will do with this game

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FIRE I AM SHEEPING YOU!

Come Join me! The grass is more delicious here!

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I know thats voting yourself and it makes no sense to you know

BUT RC KNows the BEST

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No its not!

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pedit: To be fair, this game has proven that it is 100% acceptable to be voting for yourself.

IKR

and these silly people (pointing at fire and screenplay) don't let people selfvote in SC2 forums ...

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True or false: It is acceptable to vote conf town.

no That will cause a universal paradox unless if RC is voting them first!

and no FB I didn't know

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huh oh I though I saw your name there sorry!

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All 3 inves claims are truth!

why you can't see that lol

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There aren't any fake claims!

everyone claimed their true roles (beside the roleblocker obv)

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I will vote wherever RC votes!

I played this game and solved it. I'm done thinking! RC is now a doublevoter talk with him!

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no

but count this as a vote.

VOTE: Anotora

VOTE: Anotora

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RC pagetop

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he said Saj is already flipped town not you!

that analyse was for when he wasn't inform about Garmr guilty

......

what a crap :/

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I have a crap detector and its alarming like a bitch ... >.>

I don't know my phone's passcode! what should I do >.>

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It wasn't a crap to you before I mentioned it ...

what the fuck are you talking about

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Entertained?

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My phone is locked for 60 min

RIP

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That's not a slip at all jfc for the love of Annie Hastur.

<3

Thats why I'm sheeepppiingggg you!

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

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well thats not! But your cute so whatever

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well thats not! But your cute so whatever

Oh I know why you're sheeping me

Oh you don't!

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This game is so Fun!

LOL

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FA I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS RETARDED!

WHY A RETARDED GAME CAN'T BE FUN!

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wait if ano is sheeping fire and I am sheeping RC

that means
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......

FIRE IS SHEEPING ME

lol

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I love you 2

<3

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and that was the best landmark for the event at hand!

Thanks mod!

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Alisae x Firebringer now #1 ship MS.

whattt

what about me >.>

[Frozen Angel]

Let's start off with the super easy things to pick off. In #2724, Panther makes a brief case for Garmr-scum. Thirteen minutes later, there's "very little reason" to question Garmr. Panther is now ready to blindly follow Garmr's investigation and lynch Pepcho, who he had called a very likely town wagon thirteen minutes ago in #2724. Actually, forget I said thirteen minutes. Post #2728 tells us that his whole change of heart about Pepcho and Garmr changes not in thirteen minutes, but rather in the span of only six minutes. Isn't it amazing how quick Panther's opinions can change? To me, this is Panther having absolutely no conviction about him. He didn't even need time to think about whether he believed Garmr's claim or not. All he needed to know was that the town believes Garmr's claim, therefore he should back right off of Garmr and jump onto Pepcho's wagon, which he sees as a very safe place to be.

O.O

Your serious aren't you?

[Frozen Angel]

Every player I am going to lynch is scum, some of them just aren't mafia.

but I'm neither and you really like to lynch me!

sooo

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Let's start off with the super easy things to pick off. In #2724, Panther makes a brief case for Garmr-scum. Thirteen minutes later, there's "very little reason" to question Garmr. Panther is now ready to blindly follow Garmr's investigation and lynch Pepcho, who he had called a very likely town wagon thirteen minutes ago in #2724. Actually, forget I said thirteen minutes. Post #2728 tells us that his whole change of heart about Pepcho and Garmr changes not in thirteen minutes, but rather in the span of only six minutes. Isn't it amazing how quick Panther's opinions can change? To me, this is Panther having absolutely no conviction about him. He didn't even need time to think about whether he believed Garmr's claim or not. All he needed to know was that the town believes Garmr's claim, therefore he should back right off of Garmr and jump onto Pepcho's wagon, which he sees as a very safe place to be.

O.O

Your serious aren't you?

The 6 min your reffering to was me explaining the "results" to him

how can any one suspect Garmr at this point with those results?

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OMFG

even Ice cubicle is sheeping!

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In post #2727, when Panther believes that the Gamma is the watcher with the claim of seeing Pepcho target -Grey-, this is his tune on Pepcho: "So if it was a watch you don't actually know that's what killed him, you just know pep visited. so I'm assuming pep claimed something else?" Very defensive, you see.

actually this needs more thought

@fire he is fine

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pepcho still avoiding this thread lol

stop bringing a scum treestump in this thread we really don't need that!

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If it were me I would just meme up the thread until town gave up and lynched me.

You remember Steven universe?

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I practically made varsoon cry!

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Steven universe still makes me sad.

let it go!

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This mod has supernatural abilities that lets him glare at his game's players even through internet!

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pepcho still avoiding this thread lol

I don't have anything real to say.

Also please read my shit. I'm not ignoring the thread but I see no reason to post in it.

And we all thank you for that

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This mod has supernatural abilities that lets him glare at his game's players even through internet!

the power of is greater tho

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fuck

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so RC am I the next mislynch?

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money has no more shots

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Again sorry town. I saw the hints but thought I was over thinking it. Mandy's claim and NA looked suspicious.


Question, with fire claiming miller why didn't we policy lynch him instead of anotora? If no one was going to lynch Pep should that have been the action?

cause ML was Softing to be cop hardcore >.>

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You were outed D1

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and Fire using me as a tool for lynching Ml was so painful ...

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That was true

RC was just being stupid and town really fucked up more than what it seems

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and Fire only coasted because of that soft cop claim

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I was nawt being stupid

its possible to have 2 ascetics ?

are you fucking kidding me?

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Can I ask what happened? I didn't read D1 at all

Gamma claimed ascetic after replacing in

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and then when I said "lol, you just scum claimed"

he got a heart attack

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>.>

I was a fucking rolestopper

the game already had 2

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and Fire only coasted because of that soft cop claim

are you really going to undermine my game here?

yes I would lynh you D2 If I knew ML was a rolecop

Your play in early game sucked and then your play in D3 to attack RC who was a confirmed town based on D2 and I proved it multiple times

Its not my fault town are not thinking at all and its not your good game

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thats low or whatever

you were intentioanlly lurking D1 - your content were ehh

I even pushed you twice during D1 and D2 and I only put you in town pile because of ML soft cop claims. There was no fucking way I would let you live if I wasn't sure about ML being town

and Screen bought that I was townreading you over ML? Jeez

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>.>

I was a fucking rolestopper

the game already had 2

That's an easy thing to spin shouldn't have claimed still but still easy to spin

there was a claimed miller

a soft of cop, me a role stopper , watcher and weak vanilla cop

ascitic was a godfather to the last and completly scum utility against the rest so yeah it was a scum claim

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I'm not upset at all

I had a point in this game and I made it

Not going to say a bad play was good. Bad play was bad and I hope the ones who played bad understand that and fix their errors.

I have nothing else to say.

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thats low or whatever

you were intentioanlly lurking D1 - your content were ehh

I even pushed you twice during D1 and D2 and I only put you in town pile because of ML soft cop claims. There was no fucking way I would let you live if I wasn't sure about ML being town

and Screen bought that I was townreading you over ML? Jeez

I WAS ON A ROAD TRIP AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS GAME.

I ALSO ENDED THE GAME WITH 356 POSTS.

with 356 posts containing nothing

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Your miller claim was so stupid that I can't beleive you actually made it through d3 with that

If it was in a game with a more proper playerlist you wouldn't live till D3

and thats why no miller claimer should live till lylo

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My critisizm are all constructive

I'm not rude or upset

It was all a game after all. be better next time

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with 356 posts containing nothing

Okay, I guess I post nothing.
Nothing I say is game related. All filler.

Sure Frozen.

I'm happy you agreed. *I know sarcasm but whatever*

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Fire you did well for the cards we were given and how town acted through the game don't let anyone tell you dif.
Pedit: You are being very rude if you don't want to admit that so be it.

Fire game was awful

he made repeated mistakes like :

- claiming miller
- coasting
- his d2 was purly apeasy and ATE
- D3 he pushed RC who was confirmed town - which is on RC who didn't fought back
- Fire vote on you was Obviously a bus
- he repeatedly used incorrect facts about other players reads and if screen was a little bit more aware of game state would lynch him regardless

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My critisizm are all constructive

If you want to be constructive, you are supposed to be telling me some things I can do to not have these problems occur again.

For example, when you tell me "you need to post more content" you should follow up with a "like provide more posts like (example)"

So if you want to tell me whats bad, you have to tell me what the steps you can improve on that.
You weren't doing that.

Your iso is there as an example

I listed all your failures as a mafia player

you being uaware of game state and pretending of that is a sum tell of you - whih I used in every single game we played so far and is working all the time.

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Part of constructive criticism is going to the knees and then putting out a hand to help them get back up Frozen.

nah Thats too muh effort

I just throw the the criticism and let you grab it on yourself and make your own games.

forexample ML mistakes were so much that on top of them are :

- softing thw wrong role - and when obviously others are using that as a fact not correcting it
- Not suspecting / cheking miller claim as a role cop
- Not having constructive reads
- Softing their role in that way day 1 - no cop should ever do that
- Not listening to me about why RC was conftown

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I listed all your failures as a mafia player

yep

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its alright, its a game.
I know i didn't play this perfectly.

theres always room for improvement.

I am just upset at the way its gone about.
W/e.

hugs

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his avatar sucks cause that thing is not a fire bringer

more accurate?

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It's very easy to tell what someone's role is with gy bias even if you don't think you are being bias as in "oh this post is obv scummy" when you may not find that post scummy say if you had no info/alive

regarding this no

I had the whole setupi figured out with one exception : ML lie

There was no way me and gamma were town together so I gave the option to lynch / sort players to RC D2. He acted like a .... and got anotora lynched after calling me responsible for "Saj mislynch" Like I was the only one who scumreaded that guy d1 and it happened with just my vote!

So yeah - I practically stopped playing directly toward my wincon day 2 by not enforcing a lynch on you or pep but I was just tired of RC's stupidy so I made my cases and let him decide - which ended in a disaster I predicted.

Plus I guess showing myself important D2 - payed of as that caused in mafia shooting me even though I was vanilla from that point and I was a really high potential mislynch later on.

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I mean I'm really confident in my setup spec ability. I never failed so far

Once I figured an entire bastard rolemadness game setup during D2 without even seeing some of the players flavor claim as a mason

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well I said You can't be prud of your play because of these stuff , he won the game regardless so w/e

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That means the town must be ashamed of their play more than he should be proud of himself.

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>.>

I designed games with more than one ascetic

that was @RC cause they made that argument IN THIS particular case

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You pec and If I knew ML was role cop fire

fire got a pass from me cause I was reading that as a cop claim

100% accurate yeah?

I just read Saj wrong >.>

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I got you D1 and pech got conf scum d2

I made a full town block and confirmed why they are town

If it wasn't because of ML rolecop/cop thing I would put Hard FOS on fire

look at my interactions with him in D2 to see that.

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I FOSed RC cause they were acting really dumb

after garmr result My reads were 100% accurate - I proved how RC was town and sheeped them to make my point about you being scum

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and if you are reffering to SAJ

"Frozen SAJ mislynch was on you" was the reason I actually let RC do the "RC anotora lynch was on you"in d2

it takes a whole wagon of players to think if someone is scummy or not and SAJ was that scummy to be lynched. I won't take the full responsibility for that

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yeah no

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You are not reading D2

I'm really good at evaluating my reads and SAJ was not MY MISLYNCH

they were playing bad they were scummy enough to be considered scummy BY EVERYONE - pointing at RC - and they got lynched

I wasn't used to dumb RC in D2 I proved they were conftown.

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You were acting dumb before getting FOSed

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SAJ was not a counterwagon to pep cause I made it

pep was a prime suspect of me during d1

YOU yourself scumread SAJ as well - You said they are scummy too. You chose SAJ over pep whan I wasn't voting anyone. I was SAJ wagon's hammer

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The first voter and the last one

By acting dumb I mean you were just apeasing instead of sorting. You practically did nothing D1 and yest you were suspecting me for WIFOM's you made in your mind about my play style.

MY D1 and D2 play before sheeping you were 100% identitcal

I sheeped you to wake you up and I would self hammer myself if you were putting me at L1 in D2.

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I actually didn't I was just planning to deal with the situation later if I wasn't nightkilled since I figured if I opposed SAJ I would get lynched day 1 and that's not cool.

No

You were scumreading him. when you said that pep was secondary wagon

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No firebringer nightkilled me because they were thinking I lied about being 1 shot which I was ntentionally crumbing it D2.

and because I had the game figured out.

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you should have lynched me or gamma D2 thats your game mistake

I won't take blame for SAJ mislynch.

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ML lie had no relation ship to scum!gamma obviousness.